Re: [freenet-chat] China starts to get serious over cyberspace

2009-06-19 Thread Alan Grimes
I had wanted a freenode for a long long time.

Then I finally got a place of my own.

So I set up my node on my athlon 800..

and it just sat there.
and collected data,

and then I tried to do some browsing,

and performance was always horrible.

And I left it running for a few weeks...

Finally, I decided I needed the bandwidth for something useful. =\

Freenet is a great concept, I just wish it worked. =(


Luke771 wrote:
 Matthew Toseland wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 03:54:31PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
  
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 After a sustained campaign in the press, a legal challenge and several 
 security holes being discovered, China's Ministry of Industry and 
 Information Technology has clarified that The use of this software is 
 not compulsory. Those who uninstall it will not face prosecution.

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8106526.stm
 ___
   
 in the meantime, internet censorship is now law in germany, and it has 
 been for a relatively long time in australia.
 my guess: eu and uk next, us will take longer because of their 
 constiution but sooner or later the net will be censorted there too.
 
 I expect a flow of new users from germany as a reaction to the new 
 censorship laws, pretty much the same as it happened in france after the 
 new fascist laws lots of people installed freenet. I wonder why we have 
 relatiovely few autralian users, when autralia is by far the worst in 
 the formerly free world, when it comes to censorship...
 
 also, it looks like italian users are finally growing in number,  after 
 the introduction of some new fascist laws   with a couple of italian 
 indexes that have been added lately, some blogs, and even a page from an 
 'alternative' politician (yeah, right)
 
 the trend is clear: more fascist laws, more censorship laws = more 
 freenet users. Now the point is how to make them stay and how to make 
 them bring their friends (offering interesting content?)



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Re: [freenet-chat] China starts to get serious over cyberspace

2009-06-18 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 03:54:31PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 All new PCs shipped in China include a piece of software called Green Dam. 
 This is supposedly to prevent children accessing offensive material. A report 
 by the OpenNet Initiative has found that Green Dam can monitor activities 
 outside of web browsing, and can terminate applications. Professor Jonathan 
 Zittrain of Harvard's Berkman Centre told the BBC that it can be used for 
 broader purposes, such as the filtering of political ideas. Recently it has 
 been in the news because of allegations that it includes pirated code from 
 CyberSitter.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8091044.stm
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8101978.stm
 
 IMHO this is very interesting. It was always going to be necessary for a 
 totalitarian regime to take control of the client side as well as filtering 
 at the network level (which they already do, extensively although not yet 
 with very sophisticated technology, including blocking access to 
 freenetproject.org, and apparently the 0.5 FNP protocol too). According to 
 surveys, 80% of users won't have Green Dam, presumably mostly because they 
 already have computers and have no desire to add it, or are buying second 
 hand hardware. But this will change over time. Currently it only runs on 
 Windows. The next steps are obvious: Provided that Microsoft completes the 
 implementation of TCPA in Windows 7 or some future version, and provided that 
 Intel and AMD start shipping CPUs with the TPM integrated (which given the 
 demand for TCPA from laptops for the corporate market is likely, despite 
 massive opposition from tech enthusiasts resulting in mail order desktop 
 motherboards almost never having a TPM), and once all the old hardware has 
 been retired (which will take a long time), China can lock down cyberspace 
 completely, excluding any realistic long-term possibility of bypassing 
 government filters by requiring a state-approved operating system to connect 
 to the Internet. Whether similar things happen in the west depends on 
 political trends, the power of the entertainment industry, how much consumers 
 care about DRM, how much of a problem spam and malware become, and so on.

After a sustained campaign in the press, a legal challenge and several security 
holes being discovered, China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology 
has clarified that The use of this software is not compulsory. Those who 
uninstall it will not face prosecution.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8106526.stm
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Re: [freenet-chat] China starts to get serious over cyberspace

2009-06-18 Thread Luke771
Matthew Toseland wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 03:54:31PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
  
 snip
 

 After a sustained campaign in the press, a legal challenge and several 
 security holes being discovered, China's Ministry of Industry and 
 Information Technology has clarified that The use of this software is 
 not compulsory. Those who uninstall it will not face prosecution.

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8106526.stm
 ___
   
in the meantime, internet censorship is now law in germany, and it has 
been for a relatively long time in australia.
my guess: eu and uk next, us will take longer because of their 
constiution but sooner or later the net will be censorted there too.

I expect a flow of new users from germany as a reaction to the new 
censorship laws, pretty much the same as it happened in france after the 
new fascist laws lots of people installed freenet. I wonder why we have 
relatiovely few autralian users, when autralia is by far the worst in 
the formerly free world, when it comes to censorship...

also, it looks like italian users are finally growing in number,  after 
the introduction of some new fascist laws   with a couple of italian 
indexes that have been added lately, some blogs, and even a page from an 
'alternative' politician (yeah, right)

the trend is clear: more fascist laws, more censorship laws = more 
freenet users. Now the point is how to make them stay and how to make 
them bring their friends (offering interesting content?)


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