Re: [freenet-chat] Hammity ham ham

2001-05-10 Thread Timm Murray


Leo Howell wrote on 5/6/01 2:25 am:

>Sounds a promising system 
>though - I can't see how 
>discharging energy into the 
>ground could be objected to 
>by even the wierdest 
>government.

And if governments worked on logic, I would agree.  But these days,
nothing seems too shocking.


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Re: [freenet-chat] Hammity ham ham

2001-05-06 Thread Leo Howell

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:32:42AM -0400, Timm Murray wrote:
> Thoughts? Comments?  Flame-fest?

I found this page which explains things in (a little) more detail.

http://www.twelvestar.com/Sourceworks/Tesla%20Radiant%20Energy.html

This one is about Tesla's system for broadcasting free power to the
masses, but I think the principles must be similar.

I have a feeling that to get any distance you would need absurdly
high potentials...

Sounds a promising system though - I can't see how discharging
energy into the ground could be objected to by even the wierdest
government.

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[freenet-chat] Hammity ham ham

2001-05-04 Thread Timm Murray

After reading some of the recent posts about setting up a
wide-area wireless network, I remembered an article in 2600 called
'Broadband via the Earth'.  This was in the Summer 1999 (Vol. 16,
No. 2) issue, on page 16.  I tried to research some of the ideas
in the article after I first read it, without succsess.

Apparently, in 1899, Nikola Tesla figured out how to transmit
power through the earth, and was able to do so for several miles.

In WWI, the French used such a system for field-phone communication.

In WWII, hams were denied from operating in the US over radio
waves, so they used earth-based communication instead.

In 'Modern Communications Magazine' (Sept.  1990), there was
an article about how to make a voice communications system
similar to what the French had in WWI.  (I was unable to find any
mention of that magazine in my research).

Having a new network work through this would be tremendous.

A few considerations:

--Noise.  You've got cable TV, telephone, electrical wires, and
who knows what else running through the ground.  Any such network
would need major error corecting.

--Privacy.  The Germans were able to easily evesdrop on French
communications using such a system.  You need good use of encryption
to ensure privacy.

--Bandwidth/Range.  Probably depends on the composition of the
earth and noise.  Bandwidth should at least match a 56Kinda modem.

I suggest not using IP for this network.  If done properly, I think
'earthnet' could be much more distributed then the Internet could
ever hope to be (because you have roughly equal bandwidth at
all points).  I don't think IP would be well suited to the task,
or at least net IPv4.  Perhaps IPv6 would work better (slightly
hacked, maybe).

Thoughts? Comments?  Flame-fest?


Timm Murray

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