Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire.
Keith: several make a hei replacement coil. i used the MSD coil before i switched to a MSD distributor Larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] Real SS
mark: the late model CHEVELLES were real hard to identify. i doubt though that your 71 was a clone. even so I've seen some really good clones. i guess the price is the big thing. if he isn't representing it as an SS it shouldn't be worth as much. that decision is entirely up to you. i myself think that you will plenty of cars for sale soon if the economy doesn't straighten up. Larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire.
I did not know that. Now I can delete all this email I have been saving. Keith - Original Message - From: Rodney. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. You can find all previous posts at http://www.mail-archive.com/chevelle-list@chevelles.net/ Rodney. 71 Chevelle Phoenix, AZ - Original Message - From: NoNeck To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. Anybody have the original post with the actual instructions on how to change the wiring to support an HEI? I deleted it accidentally. Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: Keith Cooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. The spark plugs recommended for a 1971 Chevelle is AC R45T with a gap of .035. The plug for a 1975 is R44T with a gap of .060. The plug for a 1976 is R45T with a gap of .045. The plug for a 1977 is R45T with a gap of .045. My question is- being that I am using a HEI dist. what should I set the gap at, .060 or .045 The second question is should I go to a R44T plug. My third question is should I look at a better coil. I now have a stock HEI coil. Can you buy a High Perf. coil which will fit inside the top to the stock HEI dist. cap?? Keith - Original Message - From: Keith Cooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. You bring up a very good point. I have been purchasing spark plugs are a 71 Chevelle, when I should be buying plugs for a 1975 something. You have the book, but I thought that HEI where put in 1972 cars. Thanks for the information. I really overlooked the spark plugs application. Keith - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz To: CHEVELLE Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:38 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. Let me try and clear up some confusion. First, I'm not an expert on this but I do have some knowledge on the subject. The HEI was was installed across the GM car line in 1975 through 1980. After that computer controlled HEI's came in. The main difference being the external vacume advance housing. Conventional point dist. can only handle 2.5 amps before burning up. The HEI can handle 4 amps. More amps, better coil saturation. Since the HEI needs a full 12 volts to run efficiently (unlike points, 8 volts) you MUST lose the resistance wire. The HEI can produce 35000 + volts but it needs the full 12 volts to do this. (coil saturation) The resistor wire causes a voltage drop after starting. During starting it is by-passed. This wire is what kept the points from burning up. Keith is right about the PINK wire. But don't make it too long. The longer the path, the less voltage. As for spark plugs and the HEI, you should be sure to use the right application. Plugs designed for conventional ignitions should not be used because when you open the gap you are really bending the electrode at an angle. To fire efficiently the ground electrode should be flat over the center electrode. HEI plugs have a shorter center electrode. And this allows for the larger gap. Larger gap, longer spark. And don't over look the plug wires. You need at least 8mm wire. Use a good silicone and wipe the inside of the plug and dist. boot. It not only keeps moisture out but helps keep voltage loss down. Not to mention easier boot removal. A very good book I bought several years ago was "IGNITION / ELECTRICITY BOOK by Dr. Christopher Jacobs. It may still be available. I think it cost around 15 bucks. Hope this small bit of info helps everyone. Rich
Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire.
Josh, I still have it on my computer. Send me you e-mail and I'll send it to you. Rich - Original Message - From: NoNeck To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. Anybody have the original post with the actual instructions on how to change the wiring to support an HEI? I deleted it accidentally. Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: Keith Cooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. The spark plugs recommended for a 1971 Chevelle is AC R45T with a gap of .035. The plug for a 1975 is R44T with a gap of .060. The plug for a 1976 is R45T with a gap of .045. The plug for a 1977 is R45T with a gap of .045. My question is- being that I am using a HEI dist. what should I set the gap at, .060 or .045 The second question is should I go to a R44T plug. My third question is should I look at a better coil. I now have a stock HEI coil. Can you buy a High Perf. coil which will fit inside the top to the stock HEI dist. cap?? Keith - Original Message - From: Keith Cooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. You bring up a very good point. I have been purchasing spark plugs are a 71 Chevelle, when I should be buying plugs for a 1975 something. You have the book, but I thought that HEI where put in 1972 cars. Thanks for the information. I really overlooked the spark plugs application. Keith - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz To: CHEVELLE Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:38 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. Let me try and clear up some confusion. First, I'm not an expert on this but I do have some knowledge on the subject. The HEI was was installed across the GM car line in 1975 through 1980. After that computer controlled HEI's came in. The main difference being the external vacume advance housing. Conventional point dist. can only handle 2.5 amps before burning up. The HEI can handle 4 amps. More amps, better coil saturation. Since the HEI needs a full 12 volts to run efficiently (unlike points, 8 volts) you MUST lose the resistance wire. The HEI can produce 35000 + volts but it needs the full 12 volts to do this. (coil saturation) The resistor wire causes a voltage drop after starting. During starting it is by-passed. This wire is what kept the points from burning up. Keith is right about the PINK wire. But don't make it too long. The longer the path, the less voltage. As for spark plugs and the HEI, you should be sure to use the right application. Plugs designed for conventional ignitions should not be used because when you open the gap you are really bending the electrode at an angle. To fire efficiently the ground electrode should be flat over the center electrode. HEI plugs have a shorter center electrode. And this allows for the larger gap. Larger gap, longer spark. And don't over look the plug wires. You need at least 8mm wire. Use a good silicone and wipe the inside of the plug and dist. boot. It not only keeps moisture out but helps keep voltage loss down. Not to mention easier boot removal. A very good book I bought several years ago was "IGNITION / ELECTRICITY BOOK by Dr. Christopher Jacobs. It may still be available. I think it cost around 15 bucks. Hope this small bit of info helps everyone. Rich
Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire.
Keith, and anyone else that's interested. Try this site out for answers to your plug questions. http://www.castensdynojet.com/ignition.htm Rich - Original Message - From: Keith Cooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. The spark plugs recommended for a 1971 Chevelle is AC R45T with a gap of .035. The plug for a 1975 is R44T with a gap of .060. The plug for a 1976 is R45T with a gap of .045. The plug for a 1977 is R45T with a gap of .045. My question is- being that I am using a HEI dist. what should I set the gap at, .060 or .045 The second question is should I go to a R44T plug. My third question is should I look at a better coil. I now have a stock HEI coil. Can you buy a High Perf. coil which will fit inside the top to the stock HEI dist. cap?? Keith - Original Message - From: Keith Cooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. You bring up a very good point. I have been purchasing spark plugs are a 71 Chevelle, when I should be buying plugs for a 1975 something. You have the book, but I thought that HEI where put in 1972 cars. Thanks for the information. I really overlooked the spark plugs application. Keith - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz To: CHEVELLE Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:38 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. Let me try and clear up some confusion. First, I'm not an expert on this but I do have some knowledge on the subject. The HEI was was installed across the GM car line in 1975 through 1980. After that computer controlled HEI's came in. The main difference being the external vacume advance housing. Conventional point dist. can only handle 2.5 amps before burning up. The HEI can handle 4 amps. More amps, better coil saturation. Since the HEI needs a full 12 volts to run efficiently (unlike points, 8 volts) you MUST lose the resistance wire. The HEI can produce 35000 + volts but it needs the full 12 volts to do this. (coil saturation) The resistor wire causes a voltage drop after starting. During starting it is by-passed. This wire is what kept the points from burning up. Keith is right about the PINK wire. But don't make it too long. The longer the path, the less voltage. As for spark plugs and the HEI, you should be sure to use the right application. Plugs designed for conventional ignitions should not be used because when you open the gap you are really bending the electrode at an angle. To fire efficiently the ground electrode should be flat over the center electrode. HEI plugs have a shorter center electrode. And this allows for the larger gap. Larger gap, longer spark. And don't over look the plug wires. You need at least 8mm wire. Use a good silicone and wipe the inside of the plug and dist. boot. It not only keeps moisture out but helps keep voltage loss down. Not to mention easier boot removal. A very good book I bought several years ago was "IGNITION / ELECTRICITY BOOK by Dr. Christopher Jacobs. It may still be available. I think it cost around 15 bucks. Hope this small bit of info helps everyone. Rich
Re: [Chevelle-List] Name that 67 SS Chevelle= Ideas please ?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Ken, I saw from another reply that you live in MD. I would bet that most of the obvious choices are gone, especially with the MCC and other MD car clubs being active. I live in VA (and am a member of the MCC - there's no Chevelle club in VA - you should join). VA has a feature on their DMV web site to let you check for available vanity plate letter/number combinations and then order online. The ones you'd want were already taken. I would think MD's DMV site would have the same feature. I took LXVIISS. People have to think about it a little bit, especially the younger ones. Mike - Original Message - From: Ken's Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:40 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Name that 67 SS Chevelle= Ideas please ? Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I am trying to determine a good name for my vanity plates for my 67 Chevelle SS. So far: - Cool 67 - SS 396 If you have the time and inclination please drop me a note on several additional ideas. Thanks, Ken McD... __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire.
Hello: I have found the best thing with a HEI is to replace the orginal 16gauge"coil wire", with a larger diameter 12 gauge wire, back to the connector atthe firewall. I take the wiring harness plug loose at the firewall, pinchthe blade connector and remove it from the harness. Then solder the 12gauge wire on, and reinstall the blade connector into the harness and boltthe harness back into place on the firewall. Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com
Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire.
Thanks Rich. I found it. (As you'll see. I accidentally sent it to the chevelle list again!) I'm drinking my coffee and not quite awake yet!! Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. Josh, I still have it on my computer. Send me you e-mail and I'll send it to you. Rich - Original Message - From: NoNeck To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. Anybody have the original post with the actual instructions on how to change the wiring to support an HEI? I deleted it accidentally. Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: Keith Cooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. The spark plugs recommended for a 1971 Chevelle is AC R45T with a gap of .035. The plug for a 1975 is R44T with a gap of .060. The plug for a 1976 is R45T with a gap of .045. The plug for a 1977 is R45T with a gap of .045. My question is- being that I am using a HEI dist. what should I set the gap at, .060 or .045 The second question is should I go to a R44T plug. My third question is should I look at a better coil. I now have a stock HEI coil. Can you buy a High Perf. coil which will fit inside the top to the stock HEI dist. cap?? Keith - Original Message - From: Keith Cooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. You bring up a very good point. I have been purchasing spark plugs are a 71 Chevelle, when I should be buying plugs for a 1975 something. You have the book, but I thought that HEI where put in 1972 cars. Thanks for the information. I really overlooked the spark plugs application. Keith - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz To: CHEVELLE Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:38 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Spark plugs Resistor wire. Let me try and clear up some confusion. First, I'm not an expert on this but I do have some knowledge on the subject. The HEI was was installed across the GM car line in 1975 through 1980. After that computer controlled HEI's came in. The main difference being the external vacume advance housing. Conventional point dist. can only handle 2.5 amps before burning up. The HEI can handle 4 amps. More amps, better coil saturation. Since the HEI needs a full 12 volts to run efficiently (unlike points, 8 volts) you MUST lose the resistance wire. The HEI can produce 35000 + volts but it needs the full 12 volts to do this. (coil saturation) The resistor wire causes a voltage drop after starting. During starting it is by-passed. This wire is what kept the points from burning up. Keith is right about the PINK wire. But don't make it too long. The longer the path, the less voltage. As for spark plugs and the HEI, you should be sure to use the right application. Plugs designed for conventional ignitions should not be used because when you open the gap you are really bending the electrode at an angle. To fire efficiently the ground electrode should be flat over the center electrode. HEI plugs have a shorter center electrode. And this allows for the larger gap. Larger gap, longer spark. And don't over look the plug wires. You need at least 8mm wire. Use a good silicone and wipe the inside of the plug and dist. boot. It not only keeps moisture out but helps keep voltage loss down. Not to mention easier boot removal. A very good book I bought several years ago was "IGNITION / ELECTRICITY BOOK by Dr. Christopher Jacobs. It may still be available. I think it cost around 15 bucks. Hope this small bit of info helps everyone. Rich
RE: [Chevelle-List] Fuel pump BE CAREFUL, READ THIS
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I found out that SBC pumps do not work on a BBC. When installing the SBC pump using the BBC fuel pump pushrod I noted that the pump would fit flat against the engine with no tension from the pushrod. Normally you cannot hold the pump totally against the block without using a wrench to tighten it to there. The arm on the BBC pump sticks into the block a little farther than the SB pump. I speculate that it would make a lot of noise for sure, probably would work but not very well for a short time, and eventually wreck the cam lobe or pump or both. Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Baldwin Motion Cars
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List No,it did not have the stripes on it Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 anytime '90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952 TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have seen pictures of Motion Chevelles of every year from 66 to 73. The 69 and 73 Motion Chevelles I saw in person. The 73 had a Motion L88 engine which is an iron head copy of an L88. Motion was stopped by the Gov from selling cars for public highway use in 1974. The way I heard the story, the Gov threatened to fine Motion $5000.00 for every air pollution control device they disconnected. The fine was going to be huge. They reached an agreement part of which said Motion had to stop selling the street cars. The wildest Motion car was the 9 sec 454 Vega. Clint Hooper, Did your Motion Nova have the Motion custom stripes on it? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Real SS
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Mark, To answer your question, no you can not tell by the vin on a 71 if it's an SS or not without the build sheet or the protec-o-plate. From 1966-1968 the Chevelle SS was a seperate model desiganated by the vin numbers first three digits, 138176K11 would read like this. 1=Chevrolet 38=SS396(for 66-68) 17=2 door sport coupe, 6=last number of year(66) K=plant built(Kansas City,Leeds) and the last 6 digits are the serial number. From 1969-1972 The SS package was an option that was avialible on other Chevelle models and not a separate model, and there is no way to tell from the vin on a 69-72 model whether it is a Super Sport or not(except that it's not a 6 cylinder) One minor exception might be the 72, if the engine code was a W,that stood for a 270hp 454 that most belive was only had on a Chevelle with the SS package. But from 69-72 you can't tell proof positive if it's a SS without the Build sheet, or Protect-o-Plate (POP) I hope this makes it a little easyer to understand. Rocky Hill My66SS http://www.geocities.com/rocks66ss --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List So, I'm still looking at this 71 SS. So, is it true that I can't tell if it's a legit SS without a build sheet??? All I have is the VIN. Thanks, Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Real SS
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List In a message dated 12/8/01 7:20:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SC is a little far, thats like 10 hours, if it was from VA to Mass i would consider it Tom Tom, I was just kidding, but THANKS! Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Real SS
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Actually Mark, and to all other list members, if one of you are looking at a car out where I am, and you are no where near, i'd be happy to check it out for ya if its in reasonable traveling distance. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Real SS
the same goes for me too here in Oregon and I'm working about midstate. larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] Real SS
I've got Indiana covered if anyone needs something looked at I wouldn't mind to do it either Mark Green TC #1487 67 SS
