[Chevelle-List] air compressor

2003-04-04 Thread Don








Hi guys, I am thinking about getting an air compressor and I was
wondering if anyone could tell me what I need to look for and about how much it
would cost. I want one powerful
enough to run air wrenches, maybe a portable sandblaster and to pump up tires
(bicycles  cars). Any help is
appreciated.



Thanks,

Don








Re: [Chevelle-List] air compressor

2003-04-04 Thread Dan McIntosh



I would look for an oil type compressor, not one of 
these new fangled oilless ones...at least 5 HP with a 60 gallon 
tank.
For home, it will do most anything you will ask it 
to. For that size, you'll need a 220VAC line available. I also try to stay away 
from Craftsman compressors whenever I can...

Dan McIntoshBagged 64 Impala SSwww.alloldchevy.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Don 
  To: Chevelle-List 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 5:32 
PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] air 
  compressor
  
  
  Hi 
  guys, I am thinking about getting an air compressor and I was wondering if 
  anyone could tell me what I need to look for and about how much it would 
  cost. I want one powerful enough 
  to run air wrenches, maybe a portable sandblaster and to pump up tires 
  (bicycles  cars). Any help 
  is appreciated.
  
  Thanks,
  Don


Re: [Chevelle-List] air compressor

2003-04-04 Thread Rodney.



Here are a couple of discussions aboutair 
compressors from the past:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg05623.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg09595.html


Rodney. 
71 Chevelle
El Mirage, AZ 


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Don 
  To: Chevelle-List 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:32 
PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] air 
  compressor
  
  
  Hi 
  guys, I am thinking about getting an air compressor and I was wondering if 
  anyone could tell me what I need to look for and about how much it would 
  cost. I want one powerful enough 
  to run air wrenches, maybe a portable sandblaster and to pump up tires 
  (bicycles  cars). Any help 
  is appreciated.
  
  Thanks,
  Don


[Chevelle-List] Valve Cover Breather

2003-04-04 Thread Tom Tomlinson



I'm 
replacing the intake manifold on my 350 Malibu. The oil filler tube is in the 
old manifold, but there is no provision for a filler tube in the new manifold, 
so I figure I'll move it to the valve cover. In shopping for a oil filler cap, I 
noticed valve cover breathers are available as well. This is probably a novice 
question, but what is a valve cover breather for, and what 
advantage/disadvantage would it have over a cap?

Tom 
Tomlinson


Re: [Chevelle-List] air compressor

2003-04-04 Thread HarKemAsso
I WOULD think a 5-horse 60 gallon if you are doing sandblasting with a 
smaller blaster, don't get an IMC brand, i and a friend had one, they were 
pretty junky, my motor went out, his pump went out

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RE: [Chevelle-List] air compressor

2003-04-04 Thread Dave Studly








Take a
look at Sears/Lowes/Home Depot at the kind of air tools you expect to run. They should have an air-usage rating,
like 4.0 SCFM @ 90psi or
something like that. Compressors
have similar ratings that will tell how much air they can supply at a given
pressure. Buy a compressor rated
for the heaviest-usage tool and you should be alright.



-Dave





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Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On
Behalf Of Don
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 5:32
PM
To: Chevelle-List
Subject: [Chevelle-List] air
compressor



Hi guys, I am thinking about getting an air
compressor and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what I need to look for
and about how much it would cost.
I want one powerful enough to run air wrenches, maybe a portable
sandblaster and to pump up tires (bicycles  cars). Any help is appreciated.



Thanks,

Don








Re: [Chevelle-List] air compressor

2003-04-04 Thread Spiderman86



I just picked up one last weekend for pulling my 
motor etc.
I got a Porter Cable 30 gallon 5.5hp for 
$217.00
strong enough for just about everything but a da 
sander

SpidrMan
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Don 
  To: Chevelle-List 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 4:32 
PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] air 
  compressor
  
  
  Hi 
  guys, I am thinking about getting an air compressor and I was wondering if 
  anyone could tell me what I need to look for and about how much it would 
  cost. I want one powerful enough 
  to run air wrenches, maybe a portable sandblaster and to pump up tires 
  (bicycles  cars). Any help 
  is appreciated.
  
  Thanks,
  Don


RE: [Chevelle-List] Valve Cover Breather

2003-04-04 Thread Farmer Vincent
From: Tom Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Valve Cover Breather
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 18:30:56 -0500

I'm replacing the intake manifold on my 350 Malibu. The oil filler tube is
in the old manifold, but there is no provision for a filler tube in the new
manifold, so I figure I'll move it to the valve cover. In shopping for a oil
filler cap, I noticed valve cover breathers are available as well. This is
probably a novice question, but what is a valve cover breather for, and what
advantage/disadvantage would it have over a cap?

What's your current configuration?  Do you have a PCV valve in 1 valve
cover and a breather tube in the other?  Basically the breather acts as
a 2-way street; sometimes it allows air into the crankcase (PCV valve
open) and other times it vents vapors to the atmosphere or to the air cleaner
if it's a breather tube (PCV valve closed).

Brad O.

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Can we stick to cars, please?

2003-04-04 Thread Herbert Lumpp
Title: Message



Hello List,

I've read everyone's posts regarding what should 
be discussed on this list and what shouldn't. Since this is the USA, 
everyone has a right to their opinion. With that said, please read the 
following and please don't ever forget...

THE AMERICAN FIGHTINGMAN

The average age of the military man is 19 
years.

He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under 
normal circumstances is considered by society as 
half man, half boy.

Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his 
country.

He never really cared much for work and he would 
rather wax his own car than wash his father's; 
but he has never collected unemployment either.

He's a recent High School graduate; he was 
probably an average student, pursued some form 
of sport activities, drives a tenyear old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either brokeup with him 
when he left, or swears to be waiting when 
he returns from half a world away.

He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or 
jazz or swingand 155mm Howitzers.

He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was 
at homebecause he is working or fighting 
from before dawn to well afterdusk. 

He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a 
pain for him,but he can field strip a 
rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble itin less time in the dark. 

He can recite to you the nomenclature of a machine 
gun or grenade launcher and use either one 
effectively if he must. 

He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply first 
aid like a professional. 

He can march until he is told to stop or stop 
until he is told to march.

He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, 
but he is notwithout spirit or individual 
dignity. 

He is self-sufficient.

He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and 
wears the other. 

He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry. 


He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never 
to clean his rifle. 

He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, 
and fix his own hurts.

If you're thirsty, 
he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. 

He'll even split his ammunition with you in the 
midst of battlewhen you run 
low.

He has learned to use his hands like weapons and 
weapons like they were his hands.

He can save your life - or take it, because that 
is his job.

He will often do twice the work of a civilian, 
draw half the payand still find ironic 
humor in it all.

He has seen more sufferingand death than he 
should have in his short lifetime.

He has stood atop mountains of dead bodies, and 
helped to createthem. 

He has wept in public and in private, for friends 
who have fallen in combat and is 
unashamed.

He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate 
through hisbody while at rigid attention, 
while tempering the burning desireto 'square-away' those around him who haven't bothered to stand,remove 
their hat, or even stop talking. 

In an odd twist, day inand day out, far from 
home, he defends their right to be 
disrespectful.

Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and 
Great-grandfather, he is paying the price for 
our freedom.

Beardless or not, he is not a boy.

He is the American Fighting Man that has kept this 
country free for over 200 years.

He has asked nothing in return, except our 
friendship and understanding. 

Remember him, always, for he has earned our 
respect and admirationwith his blood. 





Re: [Chevelle-List] Can we stick to cars, please?

2003-04-04 Thread Dan McIntosh
Title: Message



wow, that was touching Herb... I forwarded it to a few 
friends..

Dan McIntoshBagged 64 Impala SSwww.alloldchevy.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Herbert 
  Lumpp 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:10 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Can we stick 
  to cars, please?
  
  Hello List,
  
  I've read everyone's posts regarding what should 
  be discussed on this list and what shouldn't. Since this is the USA, 
  everyone has a right to their opinion. With that said, please read the 
  following and please don't ever forget...
  
  THE AMERICAN FIGHTINGMAN
  
  The average age of the military man is 19 
  years.
  
  He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, 
  under normal circumstances is considered by 
  society as half man, half boy.
  
  Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his 
  country.
  
  He never really cared much for work and he would 
  rather wax his own car than wash his father's; 
  but he has never collected unemployment either.
  
  He's a recent High School graduate; he was 
  probably an average student, pursued some form 
  of sport activities, drives a tenyear old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either brokeup with him 
  when he left, or swears to be waiting when 
  he returns from half a world away.
  
  He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or 
  jazz or swingand 155mm Howitzers.
  
  He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he 
  was at homebecause he is working or 
  fighting from before dawn to well afterdusk. 
  
  He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is 
  a pain for him,but he can field strip a 
  rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble itin less time in the dark. 
  
  He can recite to you the nomenclature of a 
  machine gun or grenade launcher and use either 
  one effectively if he must. 
  
  He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply 
  first aid like a professional. 
  
  He can march until he is told to stop or stop 
  until he is told to march.
  
  He obeys orders instantly and without 
  hesitation, but he is notwithout spirit 
  or individual dignity. 
  
  He is self-sufficient.
  
  He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and 
  wears the other. 
  
  He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry. 
  
  
  He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but 
  never to clean his rifle. 
  
  He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, 
  and fix his own hurts.
  
  If you're 
  thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. 
  
  
  He'll even split his ammunition with you in the 
  midst of battlewhen you run 
  low.
  
  He has learned to use his hands like weapons and 
  weapons like they were his hands.
  
  He can save your life - or take it, because that 
  is his job.
  
  He will often do twice the work of a civilian, 
  draw half the payand still find ironic 
  humor in it all.
  
  He has seen more sufferingand death than 
  he should have in his short lifetime.
  
  He has stood atop mountains of dead bodies, and 
  helped to createthem. 
  
  He has wept in public and in private, for 
  friends who have fallen in combat and is 
  unashamed.
  
  He feels every note of the National Anthem 
  vibrate through hisbody while at rigid 
  attention, while tempering the burning desireto 'square-away' 
  those around him who haven't bothered to 
  stand,remove their hat, or even stop 
  talking. 
  
  In an odd twist, day inand day out, far 
  from home, he defends their right to be 
  disrespectful.
  
  Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and 
  Great-grandfather, he is paying the price for 
  our freedom.
  
  Beardless or not, he is not a boy.
  
  He is the American Fighting Man that has kept 
  this country free for over 200 years.
  
  He has asked nothing in return, except our 
  friendship and understanding. 
  
  Remember him, always, for he has earned our 
  respect and admirationwith his blood. 
  
  
  


Re: [Chevelle-List] Can we stick to cars, please?

2003-04-04 Thread KNUTSONChevelle
Just now checking my mail  read all the replys to original message sent out about these wormey peace activist.
I must say I was alittle worried about Chevelle guys worying about the politically correct subject matter on the list. 
But after reading all relpys I am very please with a renewed sence of all around support for our Country  Troups.
God Bless the USA, our Leaders, and our Fighting men  Wemon!
Thanks Guys! 

wow, that was touching Herb... I forwarded it to a few friends..
 
Dan McIntosh
Bagged 64 Impala SS
www.alloldchevy.com

- Original Message - 
From: Herbert Lumpp 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Can we stick to cars, please?
 

Hello List,
 
I've read everyone's posts regarding what should be discussed on this list and what shouldn't. Since this is the USA, everyone has a right to their opinion. With that said, please read the following and please don't ever forget...
 
 
THE AMERICAN FIGHTING MAN
 
The average age of the military man is 19 years.
 
He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy.
 
Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his country.
 
He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than wash his father's; but he has never collected unemployment either.
 
He's a recent High School graduate; he was probably an average student, pursued some form of sport activities, drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either broke up with him when he left, or swears to be waiting when he returns from half a world away.
 
He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or jazz or swing and 155mm Howitzers.
 
He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home because he is working or fighting from before dawn to well after dusk. 
 
He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for him, but he can field strip a rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble it in less time in the dark. 
 
He can recite to you the nomenclature of a machine gun or grenade launcher and use either one effectively if he must. 
 
He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply first aid like a professional. 
 
He can march until he is told to stop or stop until he is told to march.
 
He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without spirit or individual dignity. 
 
He is self-sufficient.
 
He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the other. 
 
He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry. 
 
He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean his rifle. 
 
He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and fix his own hurts.
 
If you're thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. 
 
He'll even split his ammunition with you in the midst of battle when you run low.
 
He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons like they were his hands.
 
He can save your life - or take it, because that is his job.
 
He will often do twice the work of a civilian, draw half the pay and still find ironic humor in it all.
 
He has seen more suffering and death than he should have in his short lifetime.
 
He has stood atop mountains of dead bodies, and helped to create them. 
 
He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have fallen in combat and is unashamed.
 
He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through his body while at rigid attention, while tempering the burning desire to 'square-away' those around him who haven't bothered to stand, remove their hat, or even stop talking. 
 
In an odd twist, day in and day out, far from home, he defends their right to be disrespectful.
 
Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and Great-grandfather, he is paying the price for our freedom.
 
Beardless or not, he is not a boy.
 
He is the American Fighting Man that has kept this country free for over 200 years.
 
He has asked nothing in return, except our friendship and understanding. 
 
Remember him, always, for he has earned our respect and admiration with his blood. 





RE: [Chevelle-List] Can we stick to cars, please?

2003-04-04 Thread Richard M. Pruett
Title: Message



wish I had said 
that!

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Herbert 
  LumppSent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:11 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Can we 
  stick to cars, please?
  Hello List,
  
  I've read everyone's posts regarding what should 
  be discussed on this list and what shouldn't. Since this is the USA, 
  everyone has a right to their opinion. With that said, please read the 
  following and please don't ever forget...
  
  THE AMERICAN FIGHTINGMAN
  
  The average age of the military man is 19 
  years.
  
  He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, 
  under normal circumstances is considered by 
  society as half man, half boy.
  
  Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his 
  country.
  
  He never really cared much for work and he would 
  rather wax his own car than wash his father's; 
  but he has never collected unemployment either.
  
  He's a recent High School graduate; he was 
  probably an average student, pursued some form 
  of sport activities, drives a tenyear old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either brokeup with him 
  when he left, or swears to be waiting when 
  he returns from half a world away.
  
  He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or 
  jazz or swingand 155mm Howitzers.
  
  He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he 
  was at homebecause he is working or 
  fighting from before dawn to well afterdusk. 
  
  He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is 
  a pain for him,but he can field strip a 
  rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble itin less time in the dark. 
  
  He can recite to you the nomenclature of a 
  machine gun or grenade launcher and use either 
  one effectively if he must. 
  
  He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply 
  first aid like a professional. 
  
  He can march until he is told to stop or stop 
  until he is told to march.
  
  He obeys orders instantly and without 
  hesitation, but he is notwithout spirit 
  or individual dignity. 
  
  He is self-sufficient.
  
  He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and 
  wears the other. 
  
  He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry. 
  
  
  He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but 
  never to clean his rifle. 
  
  He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, 
  and fix his own hurts.
  
  If you're 
  thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. 
  
  
  He'll even split his ammunition with you in the 
  midst of battlewhen you run 
  low.
  
  He has learned to use his hands like weapons and 
  weapons like they were his hands.
  
  He can save your life - or take it, because that 
  is his job.
  
  He will often do twice the work of a civilian, 
  draw half the payand still find ironic 
  humor in it all.
  
  He has seen more sufferingand death than 
  he should have in his short lifetime.
  
  He has stood atop mountains of dead bodies, and 
  helped to createthem. 
  
  He has wept in public and in private, for 
  friends who have fallen in combat and is 
  unashamed.
  
  He feels every note of the National Anthem 
  vibrate through hisbody while at rigid 
  attention, while tempering the burning desireto 'square-away' 
  those around him who haven't bothered to 
  stand,remove their hat, or even stop 
  talking. 
  
  In an odd twist, day inand day out, far 
  from home, he defends their right to be 
  disrespectful.
  
  Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and 
  Great-grandfather, he is paying the price for 
  our freedom.
  
  Beardless or not, he is not a boy.
  
  He is the American Fighting Man that has kept 
  this country free for over 200 years.
  
  He has asked nothing in return, except our 
  friendship and understanding. 
  
  Remember him, always, for he has earned our 
  respect and admirationwith his blood. 
  
  
  


[Chevelle-List] Links...

2003-04-04 Thread Herbert Lumpp



Since my web page is, in all honesty,for self promotion, I felt I 
needed to add something to it that would be of some use to fellow car 
nuts. So, here's my Favorite Links page, hopefully there's something there 
for everyone!

http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/Herbs_links.htm
cYa-

Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/


RE: [Chevelle-List] Can we stick to cars, please?

2003-04-04 Thread Cutter169



I've 
pretty much read though this entire thread and don't recall any messages from 
any "wormey peace activist" (perhapsthat was only saidto incite more 
robust dialog?). All I saw was some people that would rather talk about 
Chevelles. Its'aboutwhy many of use check our email each day - not 
about being politically correct.

Thishobbyis a way for me to get away from "real life" and 
have some fun with friends, old and new, and wrench on the old girl (the car, 
not my wife..heh).

I'll 
stop before someone reads this all out of context and calls me a wormey peace 
activist...

May 
the war end soon andour sons, daughters, bothers, sisters, friends and 
neighbors come home safely.

Proud 
to be an American,

RonMy '66 http://home.attbi.com/~cutter169/chevelle_page.htmTeam 
Chevelle #1668ACES #5205 

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 7:49 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Can we 
  stick to cars, please?Just now checking my mail  read all the replys to 
  original message sent out about these wormey peace activist.I must say I 
  was alittle worried about Chevelle guys worying about the politically correct 
  subject matter on the list. But after reading all relpys I am very please 
  with a renewed sence of all around support for our Country  
  Troups.God Bless the USA, our Leaders, and our Fighting men  
  Wemon!Thanks Guys! 
  wow, that was 
touching Herb... I forwarded it to a few friends.. Dan 
McIntoshBagged 64 Impala SSwww.alloldchevy.com
- Original Message 
  - From: Herbert 
  Lumpp To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:10 
  PMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Can we stick to cars, 
  please?Hello 
  List, I've read everyone's posts regarding what should be 
  discussed on this list and what shouldn't. Since this is the USA, 
  everyone has a right to their opinion. With that said, please read 
  the following and please don't ever forget...THE AMERICAN FIGHTING MAN The average age of the military man is 19 
  years. He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal 
  circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy. Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, 
  but old enough to die for his country. He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax 
  his own car than wash his father's; but he has never collected 
  unemployment either. 
  He's a recent High 
  School graduate; he was probably an average student, pursued some form of 
  sport activities, drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady 
  girlfriend that either broke up with him when he left, or swears to be 
  waiting when he returns from half a world away. He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or jazz or 
  swing and 155mm Howitzers. He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home 
  because he is working or fighting from before dawn to well after dusk. 
  He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for 
  him, but he can field strip a rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble it in 
  less time in the dark. He can recite to you the nomenclature of a machine gun or 
  grenade launcher and use either one effectively if he must. He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply first aid like 
  a professional. He can march until he is told to stop or stop until 
  he is told to march. 
  He obeys orders 
  instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without spirit or 
  individual dignity. He is self-sufficient. He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the 
  other. He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry. He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean 
  his rifle. He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and 
  fix his own hurts. 
  If you're thirsty, 
  he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. He'll even split his ammunition with you in the midst of 
  battle when you run low. He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons 
  like they were his hands. He can save your life - or take it, because that is his 
  job. He will often do twice the work of a civilian, draw half 
  the pay and still find ironic humor in it all. He has seen more suffering and death than he should have in 
  his short lifetime. 
  He has stood atop 
  mountains of dead bodies, and helped to create them. He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have 
  fallen in combat and is unashamed. He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through 
  his body while at rigid attention, while tempering the burning desire to 
  'square-away' those around him who haven't bothered to stand, remove their 
  hat, or even stop talking. In an odd twist, day