[Chevelle-list] Valvcover threads?

2005-07-05 Thread Pelle Andersson



Does anyone know what threadsit is for the 
bolts that attaches
the valvecovers to the heads? (402 BB)

I'm not 100% comfortable with the inch sys. 
yet;-)


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RE: [Chevelle-list] Valvcover threads?

2005-07-05 Thread Dale








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Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject)

2005-07-05 Thread James Colgan
it was a good one! still have 10 fingers and 2 eyes, all though I think the
livers of  a few of us have fattened up. :o)
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 Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had a very happy and safe
 holiday.


 Chuck Speake
 70 Chevelle Malibu
 Glen Ellyn, IL








Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp

2005-07-05 Thread Krister Meister




Drove our '66 SS 396 ( A/C ) in the local Parade again.  Parade's seem to
test the cooling systems.  I have a new stock water pump, new - recored 3
row Harrison and a seven blade fan.  Water temp barley hit 220 after 20
minutes at crawling speed.  Right afterwards I was able to drive through a
few 45mph zones and it cooled down to 200 in a couple of miles - just
needed some air.

What water temp do those of you with big blocks let it get to before
shutting it down?

Krister Meister
Bloomingdale, IL
'66 SS #'s






Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had a very happy and safe
holiday.


Chuck Speake
70 Chevelle Malibu
Glen Ellyn, IL









Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject)

2005-07-05 Thread Ed Riggins
Only slight anarchy here in SF with illegal fireworks of epoch proportions,
but the city didn't burn...


 From: James Colgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 it was a good one! still have 10 fingers and 2 eyes, all though I think the
 livers of  a few of us have fattened up. :o)
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 Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 8:49 PM
 Subject: [Chevelle-list] (no subject)
 
 
 Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had a very happy and safe
 holiday.
 
 
 Chuck Speake
 70 Chevelle Malibu
 Glen Ellyn, IL
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp

2005-07-05 Thread mholleman
Krister, I would seriously consider a pusher electric fan and run it 
anytime you run your A/C. 220 is not awful but it is bordering on too 
hot. A pusher should pull that temp down at least ten degrees which 
would be good for your engine and make the A/C more efficient. Also try 
not to ever shut down a hot engine as the temp will just climb. I 
believe the boiling point for 50/50 coolant is around 240. There are 
other factors. It sounds like your system is doing what it should for 
what you have. That additional fan will make everything much happier.
Mike Holleman

- Original Message -
From: Krister Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 10:32 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp

 
 
 
 
 Drove our '66 SS 396 ( A/C ) in the local Parade again.  Parade's 
 seem to
 test the cooling systems.  I have a new stock water pump, new - 
 recored 3
 row Harrison and a seven blade fan.  Water temp barley hit 220 
 after 20
 minutes at crawling speed.  Right afterwards I was able to drive 
 through a
 few 45mph zones and it cooled down to 200 in a couple of miles - just
 needed some air.
 
 What water temp do those of you with big blocks let it get to before
 shutting it down?
 
 Krister Meister
 Bloomingdale, IL
 '66 SS #'s
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had a very happy and safe
 holiday.
 
 
 Chuck Speake
 70 Chevelle Malibu
 Glen Ellyn, IL
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp

2005-07-05 Thread Krister Meister




Thank you Mike.

I typo'd and meant to put (no A/C)

Krister





Krister, I would seriously consider a pusher electric fan and run it
anytime you run your A/C. 220 is not awful but it is bordering on too
hot. A pusher should pull that temp down at least ten degrees which
would be good for your engine and make the A/C more efficient. Also try
not to ever shut down a hot engine as the temp will just climb. I
believe the boiling point for 50/50 coolant is around 240. There are
other factors. It sounds like your system is doing what it should for
what you have. That additional fan will make everything much happier.
Mike Holleman

- Original Message -
From: Krister Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 10:32 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp





 Drove our '66 SS 396 ( A/C ) in the local Parade again.  Parade's
 seem to
 test the cooling systems.  I have a new stock water pump, new -
 recored 3
 row Harrison and a seven blade fan.  Water temp barley hit 220
 after 20
 minutes at crawling speed.  Right afterwards I was able to drive
 through a
 few 45mph zones and it cooled down to 200 in a couple of miles - just
 needed some air.

 What water temp do those of you with big blocks let it get to before
 shutting it down?

 Krister Meister
 Bloomingdale, IL
 '66 SS #'s






 Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had a very happy and safe
 holiday.


 Chuck Speake
 70 Chevelle Malibu
 Glen Ellyn, IL














RE: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp

2005-07-05 Thread John Nasta
For whatever reason, I also seem to remember that 240 is the magic number
that you don't want to hit.

Try less barley.

John Nasta



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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp

Krister, I would seriously consider a pusher electric fan and run it
anytime you run your A/C. 220 is not awful but it is bordering on too
hot. A pusher should pull that temp down at least ten degrees which
would be good for your engine and make the A/C more efficient. Also try
not to ever shut down a hot engine as the temp will just climb. I
believe the boiling point for 50/50 coolant is around 240. There are
other factors. It sounds like your system is doing what it should for
what you have. That additional fan will make everything much happier.
Mike Holleman

- Original Message -
From: Krister Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 10:32 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp





 Drove our '66 SS 396 ( A/C ) in the local Parade again.  Parade's
 seem to
 test the cooling systems.  I have a new stock water pump, new -
 recored 3
 row Harrison and a seven blade fan.  Water temp barley hit 220
 after 20
 minutes at crawling speed.  Right afterwards I was able to drive
 through a
 few 45mph zones and it cooled down to 200 in a couple of miles - just
 needed some air.

 What water temp do those of you with big blocks let it get to before
 shutting it down?

 Krister Meister
 Bloomingdale, IL
 '66 SS #'s






 Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had a very happy and safe
 holiday.


 Chuck Speake
 70 Chevelle Malibu
 Glen Ellyn, IL












Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp

2005-07-05 Thread Clint Hooper
Since there's no chance of freeze damage,I would cut the antifreeze ratio
way back and run more water. Even better would be 100% distilled water with
a bottle or two of Redline WaterWetter. If your car isn't all original,chuck
the engine-driven fan and install a Lincoln Mark VIII electric fan set-up.
They practically fall on a Chevelle radiator and at 5,000cfm,will cool just
about anything.
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Krister, I would seriously consider a pusher electric fan and run it
 anytime you run your A/C. 220 is not awful but it is bordering on too
 hot. A pusher should pull that temp down at least ten degrees which
 would be good for your engine and make the A/C more efficient. Also try
 not to ever shut down a hot engine as the temp will just climb. I
 believe the boiling point for 50/50 coolant is around 240. There are
 other factors. It sounds like your system is doing what it should for
 what you have. That additional fan will make everything much happier.
 Mike Holleman

 - Original Message -
 From: Krister Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 10:32 am
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp

 
 
 
 
  Drove our '66 SS 396 ( A/C ) in the local Parade again.  Parade's
  seem to
  test the cooling systems.  I have a new stock water pump, new -
  recored 3
  row Harrison and a seven blade fan.  Water temp barley hit 220
  after 20
  minutes at crawling speed.  Right afterwards I was able to drive
  through a
  few 45mph zones and it cooled down to 200 in a couple of miles - just
  needed some air.
 
  What water temp do those of you with big blocks let it get to before
  shutting it down?
 
  Krister Meister
  Bloomingdale, IL
  '66 SS #'s
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had a very happy and safe
  holiday.
 
 
  Chuck Speake
  70 Chevelle Malibu
  Glen Ellyn, IL
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 







Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp

2005-07-05 Thread Matt Wettig

Clint,
  Any idea where a guy might find one of these fans?


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From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp



Since there's no chance of freeze damage,I would cut the antifreeze ratio
way back and run more water. Even better would be 100% distilled water 
with
a bottle or two of Redline WaterWetter. If your car isn't all 
original,chuck

the engine-driven fan and install a Lincoln Mark VIII electric fan set-up.
They practically fall on a Chevelle radiator and at 5,000cfm,will cool 
just

about anything.
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Krister, I would seriously consider a pusher electric fan and run it
anytime you run your A/C. 220 is not awful but it is bordering on too
hot. A pusher should pull that temp down at least ten degrees which
would be good for your engine and make the A/C more efficient. Also try
not to ever shut down a hot engine as the temp will just climb. I
believe the boiling point for 50/50 coolant is around 240. There are
other factors. It sounds like your system is doing what it should for
what you have. That additional fan will make everything much happier.
Mike Holleman

- Original Message -
From: Krister Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 10:32 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp





 Drove our '66 SS 396 ( A/C ) in the local Parade again.  Parade's
 seem to
 test the cooling systems.  I have a new stock water pump, new -
 recored 3
 row Harrison and a seven blade fan.  Water temp barley hit 220
 after 20
 minutes at crawling speed.  Right afterwards I was able to drive
 through a
 few 45mph zones and it cooled down to 200 in a couple of miles - just
 needed some air.

 What water temp do those of you with big blocks let it get to before
 shutting it down?

 Krister Meister
 Bloomingdale, IL
 '66 SS #'s






 Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had a very happy and safe
 holiday.


 Chuck Speake
 70 Chevelle Malibu
 Glen Ellyn, IL














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Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp

2005-07-05 Thread Clint Hooper
I'll post a link on the best buy on them,later today.
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: Matt Wettig [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Clint,
Any idea where a guy might find one of these fans?


 - Original Message - 
 From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  Since there's no chance of freeze damage,I would cut the antifreeze
ratio
  way back and run more water. Even better would be 100% distilled water
  with
  a bottle or two of Redline WaterWetter. If your car isn't all
  original,chuck
  the engine-driven fan and install a Lincoln Mark VIII electric fan
set-up.
  They practically fall on a Chevelle radiator and at 5,000cfm,will cool
  just
  about anything.
  Clint Hooper
  HH Custom,owner
  1969 El Camino ProTourer
  2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
  http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Krister, I would seriously consider a pusher electric fan and run it
  anytime you run your A/C. 220 is not awful but it is bordering on too
  hot. A pusher should pull that temp down at least ten degrees which
  would be good for your engine and make the A/C more efficient. Also try
  not to ever shut down a hot engine as the temp will just climb. I
  believe the boiling point for 50/50 coolant is around 240. There are
  other factors. It sounds like your system is doing what it should for
  what you have. That additional fan will make everything much happier.
  Mike Holleman
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Krister Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 10:32 am
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp
 
  
  
  
  
   Drove our '66 SS 396 ( A/C ) in the local Parade again.  Parade's
   seem to
   test the cooling systems.  I have a new stock water pump, new -
   recored 3
   row Harrison and a seven blade fan.  Water temp barley hit 220
   after 20
   minutes at crawling speed.  Right afterwards I was able to drive
   through a
   few 45mph zones and it cooled down to 200 in a couple of miles - just
   needed some air.
  
   What water temp do those of you with big blocks let it get to before
   shutting it down?
  
   Krister Meister
   Bloomingdale, IL
   '66 SS #'s
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had a very happy and safe
   holiday.
  
  
   Chuck Speake
   70 Chevelle Malibu
   Glen Ellyn, IL
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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[Chevelle-list] terminology

2005-07-05 Thread Brian Knight
Hi guys, could someone explain to me in laymans terms the difference in 
understeer/oversteer? More specifically, what is it called when you steer 
but the rearend wants to push the vehicle straight ahead?


Thanks, Brian

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[Chevelle-list] Parade temp

2005-07-05 Thread Clint Hooper
Here you go,Matt. http://www.rockauto.com/  The part number you want is
F8LZ8C607AA or RF64 put this in the click here for part # search at Rock
Auto for a 1998 Mark VIII fan assembly. Currently going for $149.79
The fan controller I plan to use with mine is made by DC Control.
http://www.dccontrol.com/
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: Matt Wettig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Clint,
Any idea where a guy might find one of these fans?


 - Original Message - 
 From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Since there's no chance of freeze damage,I would cut the antifreeze
ratio
  way back and run more water. Even better would be 100% distilled water
  with
  a bottle or two of Redline WaterWetter. If your car isn't all
  original,chuck
  the engine-driven fan and install a Lincoln Mark VIII electric fan
set-up.
  They practically fall on a Chevelle radiator and at 5,000cfm,will cool
  just
  about anything.
  Clint Hooper
  HH Custom,owner
  1969 El Camino ProTourer
  2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
  http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Krister, I would seriously consider a pusher electric fan and run it
  anytime you run your A/C. 220 is not awful but it is bordering on too
  hot. A pusher should pull that temp down at least ten degrees which
  would be good for your engine and make the A/C more efficient. Also try
  not to ever shut down a hot engine as the temp will just climb. I
  believe the boiling point for 50/50 coolant is around 240. There are
  other factors. It sounds like your system is doing what it should for
  what you have. That additional fan will make everything much happier.
  Mike Holleman
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Krister Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 10:32 am
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp
 
  
  
  
  
   Drove our '66 SS 396 ( A/C ) in the local Parade again.  Parade's
   seem to
   test the cooling systems.  I have a new stock water pump, new -
   recored 3
   row Harrison and a seven blade fan.  Water temp barley hit 220
   after 20
   minutes at crawling speed.  Right afterwards I was able to drive
   through a
   few 45mph zones and it cooled down to 200 in a couple of miles - just
   needed some air.
  
   What water temp do those of you with big blocks let it get to before
   shutting it down?
  
   Krister Meister
   Bloomingdale, IL
   '66 SS #'s
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had a very happy and safe
   holiday.
  
  
   Chuck Speake
   70 Chevelle Malibu
   Glen Ellyn, IL
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] terminology

2005-07-05 Thread Ed Riggins
Pushing, Chevelles' biggest built in problem next to drum brakes, in my
opinion anyway.  


 From: Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:10:49 -0400
 To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Subject: [Chevelle-list] terminology
 
 Hi guys, could someone explain to me in laymans terms the difference in
 understeer/oversteer? More specifically, what is it called when you steer
 but the rearend wants to push the vehicle straight ahead?
 
 Thanks, Brian
 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] terminology

2005-07-05 Thread Clint Hooper
Understeer. Oversteer is when the rear end starts coming around.
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Hi guys, could someone explain to me in laymans terms the difference in
 understeer/oversteer? More specifically, what is it called when you steer
 but the rearend wants to push the vehicle straight ahead?
 Thanks, Brian





Re: [Chevelle-list] terminology

2005-07-05 Thread Brian Knight

Thanks, Clint. I appreciate the help, as always.


Brian


From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] terminology
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:21:58 -0500

Understeer. Oversteer is when the rear end starts coming around.
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From: Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Hi guys, could someone explain to me in laymans terms the difference in
 understeer/oversteer? More specifically, what is it called when you 
steer

 but the rearend wants to push the vehicle straight ahead?
 Thanks, Brian





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Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject)

2005-07-05 Thread Pelle Andersson

Happy 4:th of july to u guys over there!

Pelle



- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Speake [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:49 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] (no subject)



Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had a very happy and safe
holiday.


Chuck Speake
70 Chevelle Malibu
Glen Ellyn, IL









RE: [Chevelle-list] Bad Long week end

2005-07-05 Thread Chuck Speake









Hi Brad,

I looked at your web sight, your cars and
family. Both look very nice and you are a lucky person.

I noticed pictures of Lafayette. I am sure it isnt,
but is that Indiana? My daughter attends Purdue University there. They are having a large car show Dancing in
the Streets July 30. I wont be able to go in that I will
have only been out of the hospital about two weeks from my second 3 disc fusion
in the lower back, I may be making a mistake, but I have told my daughter if I
couldnt make it she could take the car and enter it herself.

I read what you said about the insurance
and that really makes me a little nervous. I have the car insured with my
home and auto insurance rather than collectors insurance so my daughter can
drive the car at times. It is insured for a certain amount, but your
comment about 60% vs. 80% concerns me. I think I better contact my agent
and speak to him prior to my daughter taking it to any shows without me. 





Chuck Speake
70 Chevelle Malibu 
Glen
Ellyn, IL 





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Message-
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Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005
9:14 PM
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Long week end



Dave, 

Sorry to hear about this. I've been involved in a crash just like this
one. All I can say is to fully document everything starting now. I
was in my '66 Corvette when some guy in a pickup started, stopped, and then
started his left turn in front of me. At the time, he apologized and
appeared to take responsibility. By the next time I heard from my
insurance company, he decided I must have been speeding (he says at least 55)
and that is why I hit him. 

The next complication was that my insurance company (they were the ones to work
with since there was a question of fault) decided that my car was an old
Chevy and that the junk percentage would be 60% of assessed
value instead of the 80% that they use for new cars.

This turned into a long, long battle with both my insurance company and the
other one as all I wanted was to have my car repaired. Having full
documentation of the car and every conversation really helped keep things
clear. Good luck and let us know if you need any help or run into problems in
the next few months.

Brad Waller
1967 Chevelle, 1966 Corvette
http://epage.com/brad

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time. Everyone is fine. I am thankful we were in the Beaumont and not our
little Honda. They do take a good hit. She was charged but now I have to get
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Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade temp

2005-07-05 Thread Clint Hooper
1993-98 but 1998 is the preferred unit. BTW,did you ever get those seats
mounted in your car?
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: mike f [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 What year is the Mark VIII ?
 mike

 --- Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Since there's no chance of freeze damage,I would cut
  the antifreeze ratio
  way back and run more water. Even better would be
  100% distilled water with
  a bottle or two of Redline WaterWetter. If your car
  isn't all original,chuck
  the engine-driven fan and install a Lincoln Mark
  VIII electric fan set-up.
  They practically fall on a Chevelle radiator and at
  5,000cfm,will cool just
  about anything.
  Clint Hooper
  HH Custom,owner
  1969 El Camino ProTourer
  2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
 
 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Krister, I would seriously consider a pusher
  electric fan and run it
   anytime you run your A/C. 220 is not awful but it
  is bordering on too
   hot. A pusher should pull that temp down at least
  ten degrees which
   would be good for your engine and make the A/C
  more efficient. Also try
   not to ever shut down a hot engine as the temp
  will just climb. I
   believe the boiling point for 50/50 coolant is
  around 240. There are
   other factors. It sounds like your system is doing
  what it should for
   what you have. That additional fan will make
  everything much happier.
   Mike Holleman
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Krister Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 10:32 am
   Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Parade
  temp
  
   
   
   
   
Drove our '66 SS 396 ( A/C ) in the local Parade
  again.  Parade's
seem to
test the cooling systems.  I have a new stock
  water pump, new -
recored 3
row Harrison and a seven blade fan.  Water temp
  barley hit 220
after 20
minutes at crawling speed.  Right afterwards I
  was able to drive
through a
few 45mph zones and it cooled down to 200 in a
  couple of miles - just
needed some air.
   
What water temp do those of you with big blocks
  let it get to before
shutting it down?
   
Krister Meister
Bloomingdale, IL
'66 SS #'s
   
   
   
   
   
   
Happy 4th of July everyone.  I hope you all had
  a very happy and safe
holiday.
   
   
Chuck Speake
70 Chevelle Malibu
Glen Ellyn, IL
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 




 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Bad Long week end

2005-07-05 Thread Clint Hooper



If you don't have Agreed Value coverage,I would be 
a little nervous. Just got a new policy on my 69 Camino from LaRue 
Insurance,while I was at Chevellabration. The car was insured on the 
oldpolicy with my daily driver and just covered for liability only,at a 
cost of $270/year. My new policy has an Agreed Value of $25,000,liability 
coverage of $100,000,and the yearly premium is $230. The only downside is I have 
a mileage restriction of 5K miles a year. Wasn't supposed to have any 
restrictions but there was a snafu.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chuck 
  Speake 
  
  
  Hi 
  Brad,
  I looked at your web 
  sight, your cars and family. Both look very nice and you are a lucky 
  person.
  I noticed pictures of 
  Lafayette. I am sure it 
  isn’t, but is that Indiana? My daughter 
  attends Purdue University there. They 
  are having a large car show “Dancing in the Streets” July 30. I won’t be 
  able to go in that I will have only been out of the hospital about two weeks 
  from my second 3 disc fusion in the lower back, I may be making a mistake, but 
  I have told my daughter if I couldn’t make it she could take the car and enter 
  it herself.
  I read what you said 
  about the insurance and that really makes me a little nervous. I have 
  the car insured with my home and auto insurance rather than collectors 
  insurance so my daughter can drive the car at times. It is insured for a 
  certain amount, but your comment about 60% vs. 80% concerns me. I think 
  I better contact my agent and speak to him prior to my daughter taking it to 
  any shows without me. 
  
  
  Chuck 
  Speake70 Chevelle 
  Malibu Glen Ellyn, 
  IL 
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Brad 
  Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 
  04, 2005 
  9:14 
  PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bad Long 
  week end
  
  Dave, Sorry to hear 
  about this. I've been involved in a crash just like this one. All 
  I can say is to fully document everything starting now. I was in my '66 
  Corvette when some guy in a pickup started, stopped, and then started his left 
  turn in front of me. At the time, he apologized and appeared to take 
  responsibility. By the next time I heard from my insurance company, he 
  decided I must have been speeding (he says at least 55) and that is why I hit 
  him. The next complication was that my insurance company (they 
  were the ones to work with since there was a question of fault) decided that 
  my car was an "old Chevy" and that the "junk" percentage would be 60% of 
  assessed value instead of the 80% that they use for new cars.This 
  turned into a long, long battle with both my insurance company and the other 
  one as all I wanted was to have my car repaired. Having full 
  documentation of the car and every conversation really helped keep things 
  clear. Good luck and let us know if you need any help or run into problems in 
  the next few months.Brad Waller1967 Chevelle, 1966 Corvettehttp://epage.com/bradDave Benjamin 
  wrote: 
  
  The 
  Beaumont Takes 
  One
  
  
  
  We went 
  for a nice little cruise Friday and when I was coming back into town a Mini 
  Van was stopped ready to make a left turn in front of me. For some reason she 
  decided to try to make it and I was too close and couldn't get it stopped in 
  time. Everyone is fine. I am thankful we were in the Beaumont and not our 
  little Honda. They do take a good hit. She was charged but now I have to get 
  the hot rod fixed. It doesn't look to bad in the pictures but it needs a bunch 
  of work now.
  
  
  
  I am now 
  looking for some parts. Any help is 
  appreciated.
  
  
  
  http://home.golden.net/~benj/85c80db0.jpg
  
  
  
  http://home.golden.net/~benj/85e80db0.jpg
  
  
  
  http://home.golden.net/~benj/86080db0.jpg
  
  
  
  http://home.golden.net/~benj/86280db0.jpg
  
  
  
  Dave 
  Ingersoll,Ontario 
  My web site: 
  http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
  


RE: [Chevelle-list] Bad Long week end

2005-07-05 Thread Brad Waller



That is Lafayette, California. A small town east 
of San Francisco near Walnut Creek. I had (and still have) my policy with 
the home and auto insurer so I can drive the cars when and where I want 
to. The "policy" was not a hard and fast one, just a tactic that they 
tried to use to end the process quickly. They figured I'd take the cash 
out and be happy, but I really wanted my car repaired!
My final resolution was to write a detailed letter 
to the local office, the regional office, and the home office, as well as every 
media outlet I could think of. They decided to fix the car the next 
week.

Brad

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck 
  SpeakeSent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:16 PMTo: 'The 
  Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Bad Long week 
  end
  
  
  Hi 
  Brad,
  I looked at your web 
  sight, your cars and family. Both look very nice and you are a lucky 
  person.
  I noticed pictures of 
  Lafayette. I am sure it 
  isnt, but is that Indiana? My daughter 
  attends Purdue University there. They 
  are having a large car show Dancing in the Streets July 30. I wont be 
  able to go in that I will have only been out of the hospital about two weeks 
  from my second 3 disc fusion in the lower back, I may be making a mistake, but 
  I have told my daughter if I couldnt make it she could take the car and enter 
  it herself.
  I read what you said 
  about the insurance and that really makes me a little nervous. I have 
  the car insured with my home and auto insurance rather than collectors 
  insurance so my daughter can drive the car at times. It is insured for a 
  certain amount, but your comment about 60% vs. 80% concerns me. I think 
  I better contact my agent and speak to him prior to my daughter taking it to 
  any shows without me. 
  
  
  Chuck 
  Speake70 Chevelle 
  Malibu Glen Ellyn, 
  IL 
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Brad 
  Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 
  04, 2005 
  9:14 
  PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bad Long 
  week end
  
  Dave, Sorry to hear 
  about this. I've been involved in a crash just like this one. All 
  I can say is to fully document everything starting now. I was in my '66 
  Corvette when some guy in a pickup started, stopped, and then started his left 
  turn in front of me. At the time, he apologized and appeared to take 
  responsibility. By the next time I heard from my insurance company, he 
  decided I must have been speeding (he says at least 55) and that is why I hit 
  him. The next complication was that my insurance company (they 
  were the ones to work with since there was a question of fault) decided that 
  my car was an "old Chevy" and that the "junk" percentage would be 60% of 
  assessed value instead of the 80% that they use for new cars.This 
  turned into a long, long battle with both my insurance company and the other 
  one as all I wanted was to have my car repaired. Having full 
  documentation of the car and every conversation really helped keep things 
  clear. Good luck and let us know if you need any help or run into problems in 
  the next few months.Brad Waller1967 Chevelle, 1966 Corvettehttp://epage.com/bradDave Benjamin 
  wrote: 
  
  The 
  Beaumont Takes 
  One
  
  
  
  We went 
  for a nice little cruise Friday and when I was coming back into town a Mini 
  Van was stopped ready to make a left turn in front of me. For some reason she 
  decided to try to make it and I was too close and couldn't get it stopped in 
  time. Everyone is fine. I am thankful we were in the Beaumont and not our 
  little Honda. They do take a good hit. She was charged but now I have to get 
  the hot rod fixed. It doesn't look to bad in the pictures but it needs a bunch 
  of work now.
  
  
  
  I am now 
  looking for some parts. Any help is 
  appreciated.
  
  
  
  http://home.golden.net/~benj/85c80db0.jpg
  
  
  
  http://home.golden.net/~benj/85e80db0.jpg
  
  
  
  http://home.golden.net/~benj/86080db0.jpg
  
  
  
  http://home.golden.net/~benj/86280db0.jpg
  
  
  
  Dave 
  Ingersoll,Ontario 
  My web site: 
  http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
  


RE: [Chevelle-list] Bad Long week end

2005-07-05 Thread Brad Waller



Since I don't want to deal with mileage and use 
restrictions, I still have them covered under my normal policy. Standard 
auto policies are Actual Cash Value (ACV) where you and they determine the value 
of the car at the time of the loss. This works out just fine for commodity 
cars that are for sale everywhere and there are no customizations. When 
you get into customized and/or rare cars, you can run into issues. 


This is a great point to talk to your agent 
about. See if they have an estimated value for your car and see how far 
away from what you think it should be that they end up. Ask about 
customization and improvements and if they take those into account. If you 
buy a $1,500 set of wheels and $1,000 tires the day before a wreck, will they 
add that to the value? What about a three year-old $5,000 paint job? 
Custom suspension, engine, interior?

You either need a really good agent, or you need a 
special policy such as the agreed value. The only danger with agreed value 
is that you need to keep up to date on this. If you have the value set and 
then make upgrades to the car, you need to change the value. You also have to 
adjust for increases in value. If Clint (just for this example) does not 
do this and the car is really worth $35,000 when it gets into a wreck, the 
insurance company will pay him $25K and satisfy all their 
obligations.

There is no right or wrong answer, as every situation 
is different. No matter what, I do recommend you get an agent that loves 
cars and understands your own love of cars. Then talk with them about 
possible situations and expectations. If they think of cars as means of 
transportation, you will not get the support you need when it comes time to have 
them work for their money.

Brad

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
  HooperSent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:38 PMTo: The 
  Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bad Long week 
  end
  
  If you don't have Agreed Value coverage,I would 
  be a little nervous. Just got a new policy on my 69 Camino from LaRue 
  Insurance,while I was at Chevellabration. The car was insured on the 
  oldpolicy with my daily driver and just covered for liability only,at a 
  cost of $270/year. My new policy has an Agreed Value of $25,000,liability 
  coverage of $100,000,and the yearly premium is $230. The only downside is I 
  have a mileage restriction of 5K miles a year. Wasn't supposed to have any 
  restrictions but there was a snafu.
  Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
  H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Chuck Speake 


Hi 
Brad,
I looked at your 
web sight, your cars and family. Both look very nice and you are a 
lucky person.
I noticed pictures 
of Lafayette. I am sure 
it isnt, but is that Indiana? My daughter 
attends Purdue 
University there. They 
are having a large car show Dancing in the Streets July 30. I wont 
be able to go in that I will have only been out of the hospital about two 
weeks from my second 3 disc fusion in the lower back, I may be making a 
mistake, but I have told my daughter if I couldnt make it she could take 
the car and enter it herself.
I read what you 
said about the insurance and that really makes me a little nervous. I 
have the car insured with my home and auto insurance rather than collectors 
insurance so my daughter can drive the car at times. It is insured for 
a certain amount, but your comment about 60% vs. 80% concerns me. I 
think I better contact my agent and speak to him prior to my daughter taking 
it to any shows without me. 


Chuck 
Speake70 Chevelle 
Malibu 
Glen Ellyn, IL 

-Original 
Message-From: Brad 
Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 
04, 2005 
9:14 
PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing 
ListSubject: Re: 
[Chevelle-list] Bad Long week end

Dave, Sorry to hear 
about this. I've been involved in a crash just like this one. 
All I can say is to fully document everything starting now. I was in 
my '66 Corvette when some guy in a pickup started, stopped, and then started 
his left turn in front of me. At the time, he apologized and appeared 
to take responsibility. By the next time I heard from my insurance 
company, he decided I must have been speeding (he says at least 55) and that 
is why I hit him. The next complication was that my insurance 
company (they were the ones to work with since there was a question of 
fault) decided that my car was an "old Chevy" and that the "junk" percentage 
would be 60% of assessed value instead of the 80% that they use for new 
cars.This turned into a long, long battle with both my insurance 
company and the other one as all I 

Re: RE: [Chevelle-list] Valvcover threads?

2005-07-05 Thread jim402
 try doing what I did w/my 70 Chevelle SS,,I took a pair of chrome 
covers,,it took 2 of the same side{ the side that has no baffels on the 
underside} layoff the location of the rocker studs, use a hole saw and drill 
holes at those proper locations{ of the rocker studs}, debur holes,,remember 
use correct size hole saw to accomidate those FACTORY rubber oil plugs,,,HAVE 
YOU EVER SEEN CHEVROLET HEMI big block valve covers YOU HAVE NOW! 
I'vebeen running them for 3-4 yrs.,,no problem oil for the pivet balls.
 
 From: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue Jul 5, 7:54 AM
 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Valvcover threads?
 
 ¼-20
 
  
 
 Dale McIntosh
 
 67 El Camino
 
 1967 Chevelle Reference CD beta now available!
 
 ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
 
   _  
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pelle Andersson
 Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:46 AM
 To: The Chevelle Mailing List
 Subject: [Chevelle-list] Valvcover threads?
 
  
 
 Does anyone know what threads it is for the bolts that attaches
 
 the valvecovers to the heads? (402 BB)
 
  
 
 I'm not 100% comfortable with the inch sys. yet ;-)
 
  
 
  
 
 Best regards
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Dale McIntosh

67 El Camino

1967
ChevelleReference CD beta now available!

ACES #1709/TC
Gold #92











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pelle Andersson
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:46
AM
To: The
 Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Valvcover
threads?







Does anyone know what threadsit is for the bolts that
attaches





the valvecovers to the heads? (402 BB)











I'm not 100% comfortable with the inch sys. yet;-)

















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Re: RE: [Chevelle-list] Valvecover threads?

2005-07-05 Thread Clint Hooper



Do you have any photos of these valve covers,Jim? I 
sold a pair of SBC valve covers last year that looked like the cam covers on a 
ZR-1's LT5 engine,,for $750. Wish I had kept them now,though,for my 69's 
SBC.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   try 
  doing what I did w/my 70 Chevelle SS,,I took a pair of chrome covers,,it took 
  2 of the same side{ the side that has no baffels on the underside} layoff the 
  location of the rocker studs, use a hole saw and drill holes at those proper 
  locations{ of the rocker studs}, debur holes,,remember use correct size hole 
  saw to accomidate those FACTORY rubber oil plugs,,,HAVE YOU EVER SEEN 
  CHEVROLET "HEMI" big block valve covers YOU HAVE NOW! I'vebeen running 
  them for 3-4 yrs.,,no problem oil for the pivet balls.


Re: RE: [Chevelle-list] Valvecover threads?

2005-07-05 Thread James Strunk



whew,750.00 ? maybe I should have gotten a 
patent !!,,sorry no pics

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Clint Hooper 
  
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:17 
PM
  Subject: Re: RE: [Chevelle-list] 
  Valvecover threads?
  
  Do you have any photos of these valve covers,Jim? 
  I sold a pair of SBC valve covers last year that looked like the cam covers on 
  a ZR-1's LT5 engine,,for $750. Wish I had kept them now,though,for my 69's 
  SBC.
  Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
  H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 try 
doing what I did w/my 70 Chevelle SS,,I took a pair of chrome covers,,it 
took 2 of the same side{ the side that has no baffels on the underside} 
layoff the location of the rocker studs, use a hole saw and drill holes at 
those proper locations{ of the rocker studs}, debur holes,,remember use 
correct size hole saw to accomidate those FACTORY rubber oil plugs,,,HAVE 
YOU EVER SEEN CHEVROLET "HEMI" big block valve covers YOU HAVE NOW! 
I'vebeen running them for 3-4 yrs.,,no problem oil for the pivet balls.


RE: [Chevelle-list] Bad Long week end

2005-07-05 Thread Chuck Speake









Thanks Brad,

I am going to save this message just in
case, god forbid something would happen and I can use it for reference. I
think I would have a fight also so perhaps this will help. Thanks a lot
for your feedback. If I can ever help or try to answer any questions,
please dont hesitate to email me.





Chuck Speake

70 Chevelle Malibu

Glen Ellyn, IL



[EMAIL PROTECTED]





-Original
Message-
From: Brad Waller
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:38 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Bad
Long week end



That
is Lafayette, California. A small town east of San Francisco near Walnut
Creek. I had (and still have) my policy with the home and auto insurer so
I can drive the cars when and where I want to. The policy was
not a hard and fast one, just a tactic that they tried to use to end the
process quickly. They figured I'd take the cash out and be happy, but I
really wanted my car repaired!


My final resolution was to write a detailed letter to the local office, the
regional office, and the home office, as well as every media outlet I could
think of. They decided to fix the car the next week.







Brad











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck Speake
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:16
PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Bad
Long week end

Hi Brad,

I looked at your web
sight, your cars and family. Both look very nice and you are a lucky
person.

I noticed pictures of
Lafayette. I am sure it isnt, but is that Indiana? My
daughter attends Purdue University there. They are having a large car
show Dancing in the Streets July 30. I wont be able
to go in that I will have only been out of the hospital about two weeks from my
second 3 disc fusion in the lower back, I may be making a mistake, but I have
told my daughter if I couldnt make it she could take the car and enter
it herself.

I read what you said
about the insurance and that really makes me a little nervous. I have the
car insured with my home and auto insurance rather than collectors insurance so
my daughter can drive the car at times. It is insured for a certain amount,
but your comment about 60% vs. 80% concerns me. I think I better contact
my agent and speak to him prior to my daughter taking it to any shows without
me. 





Chuck Speake
70 Chevelle Malibu 
Glen
Ellyn, IL 





-Original
Message-
From: Brad Waller
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 9:14
PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bad
Long week end



Dave, 

Sorry to hear about this. I've been involved in a crash just like this
one. All I can say is to fully document everything starting now. I
was in my '66 Corvette when some guy in a pickup started, stopped, and then
started his left turn in front of me. At the time, he apologized and
appeared to take responsibility. By the next time I heard from my insurance
company, he decided I must have been speeding (he says at least 55) and that is
why I hit him. 

The next complication was that my insurance company (they were the ones to work
with since there was a question of fault) decided that my car was an old
Chevy and that the junk percentage would be 60% of assessed
value instead of the 80% that they use for new cars.

This turned into a long, long battle with both my insurance company and the
other one as all I wanted was to have my car repaired. Having full
documentation of the car and every conversation really helped keep things
clear. Good luck and let us know if you need any help or run into problems in
the next few months.

Brad Waller
1967 Chevelle, 1966 Corvette
http://epage.com/brad

Dave Benjamin wrote: 



The
Beaumont Takes One









We went
for a nice little cruise Friday and when I was coming back into town a Mini Van
was stopped ready to make a left turn in front of me. For some reason she
decided to try to make it and I was too close and couldn't get it stopped in
time. Everyone is fine. I am thankful we were in the Beaumont and not our
little Honda. They do take a good hit. She was charged but now I have to get
the hot rod fixed. It doesn't look to bad in the pictures but it needs a bunch
of work now.











I am
now looking for some parts. Any help is appreciated.













http://home.golden.net/~benj/85c80db0.jpg











http://home.golden.net/~benj/85e80db0.jpg











http://home.golden.net/~benj/86080db0.jpg











http://home.golden.net/~benj/86280db0.jpg











Dave 
Ingersoll,Ontario 
My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/