Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
I'll agree about the catalogs,Ron. I'm practically a Baer Wholesale/Distributor and can't get a catalog,either. The reason they're so backlogged is because Baer is selling kits like crazy. Good stuff is rarely available,quickly. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Ron Sparks Clint, the only problem I have with Baer's is that you can't be in a hurry to get them. They take forever (ok, well 6-8 weeks, but crap, that's like 1/3rd of the summer!). Hell it took me that long just to get a catalog. They use Road Catalog to sell their catalog ($5)...I bitched after 4 weeks and got 2 (one from Baer and one from RC). You'd think for that kind of money they get for kits they'd want to get it out to you faster. The dealer locator on their site is not accurate also. Listed my local AutoZone as an authorized dealer. You should had heard that call when I was looking for the rears.. I also thought they could had done a little better on the install directions. A little generic (the fronts were better then the rear). ...but there is no doubt in their quality. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:07 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Be more specific about lack of support,Dan. I've been dealing with Baer for many years and have had very few issues with them. Baer's PBR calipers were used on late model Corvettes,Camaros,and Cobra Mustangs. If you have a problem with them,your local auto parts dealer can take care of you. Try that with Wilwood,SSBC,or others. I don't have a problem with tall spindles that are optimized for A-body cars. B-body spindles weren't made for A-body cars and cause various problems like excessive bumpsteer,increased turn radius,etc. Do a search on B-body spindles on Team Chevelle and look for postings by Dennis68. He really knows his stuff about suspension set-ups. With your car's combination,any particular reason why you need an exotic suspension? Just curious. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck The only problem I have with Baer is their support stinks! I know they get the publicity on TV, they look great, but I can have 4 piston 12 Wilwoods for the price of a two piston Baer! Plus Wilwood has been great with their support! A good product with no support is a pain in the A**! What do you have against the taller spindles? .what problems have you observed or heard? Dan From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:11 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Just my opinion but here's who you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/ I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. If you used Baer brakes,this wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing that. I didn't like my QA1 coilovers because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB springs. Air Ride Technology doesn't seem to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot recommend them. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! Its going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1, which .I think I can live with that. I wouldnt want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, its their springs t
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
Clint, the only problem I have with Baer's is that you can't be in a hurry to get them. They take forever (ok, well 6-8 weeks, but crap, that's like 1/3rd of the summer!). Hell it took me that long just to get a catalog. They use Road Catalog to sell their catalog ($5)...I bitched after 4 weeks and got 2 (one from Baer and one from RC). You'd think for that kind of money they get for kits they'd want to get it out to you faster. The dealer locator on their site is not accurate also. Listed my local AutoZone as an authorized dealer. You should had heard that call when I was looking for the rears.. I also thought they could had done a little better on the install directions. A little generic (the fronts were better then the rear). ...but there is no doubt in their quality. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:07 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Be more specific about lack of support,Dan. I've been dealing with Baer for many years and have had very few issues with them. Baer's PBR calipers were used on late model Corvettes,Camaros,and Cobra Mustangs. If you have a problem with them,your local auto parts dealer can take care of you. Try that with Wilwood,SSBC,or others. I don't have a problem with tall spindles that are optimized for A-body cars. B-body spindles weren't made for A-body cars and cause various problems like excessive bumpsteer,increased turn radius,etc. Do a search on B-body spindles on Team Chevelle and look for postings by Dennis68. He really knows his stuff about suspension set-ups. With your car's combination,any particular reason why you need an exotic suspension? Just curious. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck The only problem I have with Baer is their support stinks! I know they get the publicity on TV, they look great, but I can have 4 piston 12” Wilwoods for the price of a two piston Baer! Plus Wilwood has been great with their support! A good product with no support is a pain in the A**! What do you have against the taller spindles? .what problems have you observed or heard? Dan From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:11 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Just my opinion but here's who you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/ I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. If you used Baer brakes,this wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing that. I didn't like my QA1 coilovers because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB springs. Air Ride Technology doesn't seem to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot recommend them. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! It’s going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1”, which….I think I can live with that. I wouldn’t want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, it’s their springs they don’t like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1’s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom o
Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
Be more specific about lack of support,Dan. I've been dealing with Baer for many years and have had very few issues with them. Baer's PBR calipers were used on late model Corvettes,Camaros,and Cobra Mustangs. If you have a problem with them,your local auto parts dealer can take care of you. Try that with Wilwood,SSBC,or others. I don't have a problem with tall spindles that are optimized for A-body cars. B-body spindles weren't made for A-body cars and cause various problems like excessive bumpsteer,increased turn radius,etc. Do a search on B-body spindles on Team Chevelle and look for postings by Dennis68. He really knows his stuff about suspension set-ups. With your car's combination,any particular reason why you need an exotic suspension? Just curious. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck The only problem I have with Baer is their support stinks! I know they get the publicity on TV, they look great, but I can have 4 piston 12 Wilwoods for the price of a two piston Baer! Plus Wilwood has been great with their support! A good product with no support is a pain in the A**! What do you have against the taller spindles? .what problems have you observed or heard? Dan From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:11 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Just my opinion but here's who you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/ I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. If you used Baer brakes,this wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing that. I didn't like my QA1 coilovers because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB springs. Air Ride Technology doesn't seem to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot recommend them. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! Its going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1, which .I think I can live with that. I wouldnt want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, its their springs they dont like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom of the firewall) and their tube size is 1 7/8" (instead of 2" or 2 1/8" like my long tubes). If your car has a SBC,they will practically fall on. Yes,I liked the ball-joint collector flanges much better than the three-point flanges,too. Hedman and Patriot also make intermediate headers for our cars but they won't clear the Z-bar on manual trans A-bodies. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Jimmy C. Clint, do you know or hear how they (the sandersons) fit the 72 chevelle ? height is not an issue for me. and I like the look of the flanges under the car. but want to avoid dinging the pipes and painless installation would be nice too. any suggestions? thanks , Jimmy.C
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
I’ve heard too many complaints on QA1’s, although many were related to the springs! The only problem I have with Baer is their support stinks! I know they get the publicity on TV, they look great, but I can have 4 piston 12” Wilwoods for the price of a two piston Baer! Plus Wilwood has been great with their support! A good product with no support is a pain in the A**! What do you have against the taller spindles? .what problems have you observed or heard? Dan From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:11 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Just my opinion but here's who you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/ I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. If you used Baer brakes,this wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing that. I didn't like my QA1 coilovers because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB springs. Air Ride Technology doesn't seem to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot recommend them. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! It’s going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1”, which….I think I can live with that. I wouldn’t want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, it’s their springs they don’t like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1’s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom of the firewall) and their tube size is 1 7/8" (instead of 2" or 2 1/8" like my long tubes). If your car has a SBC,they will practically fall on. Yes,I liked the ball-joint collector flanges much better than the three-point flanges,too. Hedman and Patriot also make intermediate headers for our cars but they won't clear the Z-bar on manual trans A-bodies. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Jimmy C. Clint, do you know or hear how they (the sandersons) fit the 72 chevelle ? height is not an issue for me. and I like the look of the flanges under the car. but want to avoid dinging the pipes and painless installation would be nice too. any suggestions? thanks , Jimmy.C - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers Hey Clint, I bought a set of Sanderson's BB3 headers for my 66. With my engine almost complete now, I attached the headers to see how they fit. As you know, the driver's side is real short and drops straight down, whereas the passenger side is much longer and doesn't drop nearly as quickly. From your memory, how close does the passenger side collector get to the firewall? And do you recall any heat or clearance issues? Thanks, Larry Shouse
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
Thanks, doesn’t hurt to look! From: Ringlein Thomas J Capt 40 ELRF/CC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:01 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Personally, if I was going to spend that much money on a suspension system, I would go to Hot Rods to Hell and get one of their truckarm setups. I was looking hard at their rear truckarm suspension, but could not justify the $2300. Really, those setups make your Chevelle scream. Google “Hot Rods to Hell Truckarm” and see what comes up (I forget the website). Rinkys From: Dan Mascheck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:56 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! It’s going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1”, which….I think I can live with that. I wouldn’t want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, it’s their springs they don’t like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1’s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom of the firewall) and their tube size is 1 7/8" (instead of 2" or 2 1/8" like my long tubes). If your car has a SBC,they will practically fall on. Yes,I liked the ball-joint collector flanges much better than the three-point flanges,too. Hedman and Patriot also make intermediate headers for our cars but they won't clear the Z-bar on manual trans A-bodies. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Jimmy C. Clint, do you know or hear how they (the sandersons) fit the 72 chevelle ? height is not an issue for me. and I like the look of the flanges under the car. but want to avoid dinging the pipes and painless installation would be nice too. any suggestions? thanks , Jimmy.C - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers Hey Clint, I bought a set of Sanderson's BB3 headers for my 66. With my engine almost complete now, I attached the headers to see how they fit. As you know, the driver's side is real short and drops straight down, whereas the passenger side is much longer and doesn't drop nearly as quickly. From your memory, how close does the passenger side collector get to the firewall? And do you recall any heat or clearance issues? Thanks, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Battery Tray Coating
Thanks for the advice. The undercoating spray is a no go. Stays soft! Buying POR-15 today. Larry Williams Larry Williams wrote: Have any of you guys ever tried black undercoating spray on the battery tray. I'm hoping to protect the metal from corrosion. I know, my battery charging system is supposed to work perfectly, but doesn't. Still working on that aspect. More good grounds! Larry Williams
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
Personally, if I was going to spend that much money on a suspension system, I would go to Hot Rods to Hell and get one of their truckarm setups. I was looking hard at their rear truckarm suspension, but could not justify the $2300. Really, those setups make your Chevelle scream. Google “Hot Rods to Hell Truckarm” and see what comes up (I forget the website). Rinkys From: Dan Mascheck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:56 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! It’s going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1”, which….I think I can live with that. I wouldn’t want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, it’s their springs they don’t like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1’s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom of the firewall) and their tube size is 1 7/8" (instead of 2" or 2 1/8" like my long tubes). If your car has a SBC,they will practically fall on. Yes,I liked the ball-joint collector flanges much better than the three-point flanges,too. Hedman and Patriot also make intermediate headers for our cars but they won't clear the Z-bar on manual trans A-bodies. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Jimmy C. Clint, do you know or hear how they (the sandersons) fit the 72 chevelle ? height is not an issue for me. and I like the look of the flanges under the car. but want to avoid dinging the pipes and painless installation would be nice too. any suggestions? thanks , Jimmy.C - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers Hey Clint, I bought a set of Sanderson's BB3 headers for my 66. With my engine almost complete now, I attached the headers to see how they fit. As you know, the driver's side is real short and drops straight down, whereas the passenger side is much longer and doesn't drop nearly as quickly. From your memory, how close does the passenger side collector get to the firewall? And do you recall any heat or clearance issues? Thanks, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
Just my opinion but here's who you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/ I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. If you used Baer brakes,this wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing that. I didn't like my QA1 coilovers because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB springs. Air Ride Technology doesn't seem to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot recommend them. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! Its going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1, which .I think I can live with that. I wouldnt want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, its their springs they dont like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom of the firewall) and their tube size is 1 7/8" (instead of 2" or 2 1/8" like my long tubes). If your car has a SBC,they will practically fall on. Yes,I liked the ball-joint collector flanges much better than the three-point flanges,too. Hedman and Patriot also make intermediate headers for our cars but they won't clear the Z-bar on manual trans A-bodies. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Jimmy C. Clint, do you know or hear how they (the sandersons) fit the 72 chevelle ? height is not an issue for me. and I like the look of the flanges under the car. but want to avoid dinging the pipes and painless installation would be nice too. any suggestions? thanks , Jimmy.C - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers Hey Clint, I bought a set of Sanderson's BB3 headers for my 66. With my engine almost complete now, I attached the headers to see how they fit. As you know, the driver's side is real short and drops straight down, whereas the passenger side is much longer and doesn't drop nearly as quickly. From your memory, how close does the passenger side collector get to the firewall? And do you recall any heat or clearance issues? Thanks, Larry Shouse
