Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
I have a 65 that had the SBC mounts. I bought the BBC Frame mounts thinking they were different. They are the same height, size, use the same motor mounts, etc... The only difference is that the big block ones have an indent, that appears to do nothing. As far as a '65 goes. You can use the same mounts for either BBC or SBC. Physically they are the same, cosmetically they are different. http://65ss.com/images/engine/06052004pic8.jpg Charles 65ss.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts In a message dated 1/2/2006 6:21:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what you are saying here Tom is that the frame mounts are the same, but the motor mounts would be different?Thanks Joe P. 307's use their own frame and motor mounts. If you put any other small block (350, 400) in an original 307 car, you need to use 307 mounts as they bolt right up to a 350. If you want to put a big block (396/454/502) in an original 307 car, you need to change the frame mounts. If you have an original 350 car, or an original big block car, you can use the original frame mounts to put in any small block other than a 307 or big block. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] '73 El Camino $1000 FIRM
Hi Jimmy, Were you able to leave a message for him? If you can provide me with your phone #, I'll catch up with him tomorrow about it for you. I really wish I had a place to keep the car myself- I'm an ElCo fan and would love to have it. Especially w/the Cragars all the way around! Regards, Jim --- "Jimmy C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jim, I called your buddy to ask him about the car > and he never got back > to me? I had a 73 in the early 80's. lots of good > memmorys but I miss judged > a turn clipped an aluminum light pole (clean cut, > mashed the passenger side > door went clean over the roof) went through a chain > link fence into the > middle of a field... me and my brother were > alrightbut the car only > wanted to drive in circles after that :O) lucky...if > you think the car your > buddy has is a good car. have him e-mail me > [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks > "HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL" Jimmy .C > - Original Message - > From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Chevelle Group" > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:20 AM > Subject: [Chevelle-list] '73 El Camino $1000 FIRM > > > > My friend has not yet sold his '73 El Camino, so I > > thought I'd post it again. > > > > He is selling the car w/o motor and trans, and the > car > > is the one in the pics shown at these links: > > > > http://www.59registry.hypermart.net/elcofrt.jpg > > http://www.59registry.hypermart.net/elcobck.jpg > > > > It also has the following options/features: > > > > -4.56 posi (8.5") rear > > -power brakes > > -swivel buckets > > -Grant Steering Wheel > > > > Please call Scott at 410-620-4615 for more info. > The > > car is located on the DE/MD line. He is selling > it > > for $1K firm. I'd definitely > > take it if I had an extra garage.. Just tell him > you > > got the info from Jim Brady. > > > > Jim > > '66 Malibu > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. > > http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ > > > > > > > > __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
Re: [Chevelle-list] 1968 Chevelle Concours 2 Dr. Coupe Info
Go by Barnes and Nobles and look up the standard catalog of Chevrolet by Kowalke. It mentions your model by name. Interesting stuff. Not a mention of it for the 69 model except wagons. I learned something today, COOL - Original Message - From: "Tracey Beardsley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:39 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 1968 Chevelle Concours 2 Dr. Coupe Info I own a 68 chevelle concours model. No one has been able to provide any information. I want to know if you can help me with any info about production, the naming of the car, why they built the concours differently from the other chevelles, anything you can possibly tell me. I don't need info on the wagon. I am interested in the 2 door coupes. Some people say they were different because of the strike. But there has been no hard evidence of such. I would appreciate any websites, books, or people that I could contact to research the car. Thank you very much sincerely, Craig Beardsley __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
[Chevelle-list] 1968 Chevelle Concours 2 Dr. Coupe Info
I own a 68 chevelle concours model. No one has been able to provide any information. I want to know if you can help me with any info about production, the naming of the car, why they built the concours differently from the other chevelles, anything you can possibly tell me. I don't need info on the wagon. I am interested in the 2 door coupes. Some people say they were different because of the strike. But there has been no hard evidence of such. I would appreciate any websites, books, or people that I could contact to research the car. Thank you very much sincerely, Craig Beardsley __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Venice Beach Cruises
Ron, I don't know about cruises in Venice, but if you can work your way north maybe 3 hours to Kissimmee (next to Disney), You should check out Old Town. Every Saturday, pre 1972 cars start showing up mid afternoon. Lots of classics, custom rods and muscle cars. There's carnival rides for the kids, shopping for the ladies, live band playing oldies, and 200+ cars every Saturday, Most arrive 4 or 5ish, and they all cruise at 8:30 pm. No cover to get in. Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Ron Menchey To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts Could some do me a favor..I can't seem to start my own post..so could one of you do it for me I am going to Venice Beach Fla the last week in Jan and I am wanting to know if anyone on the board knows of any cruise nites or any car things going on down there. Thanks so much Ron Menchey 71 convt. - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts I swapped a 468 BB into my 68 El Camino that was formerly a 307 and kept the frame mounts. All I changed was the motor mounts. Never had a problem using the 307 frame mounts. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Need speedometer needle source
Krister, You still looking for a Speedometer needle? I got one if you still need one. Let me know. -Tim King-
Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts
Could some do me a favor..I can't seem to start my own post..so could one of you do it for me I am going to Venice Beach Fla the last week in Jan and I am wanting to know if anyone on the board knows of any cruise nites or any car things going on down there. Thanks so much Ron Menchey 71 convt. - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts I swapped a 468 BB into my 68 El Camino that was formerly a 307 and kept the frame mounts. All I changed was the motor mounts. Never had a problem using the 307 frame mounts. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] '73 El Camino $1000 FIRM
Hi Jim, I called your buddy to ask him about the car and he never got back to me? I had a 73 in the early 80's. lots of good memmorys but I miss judged a turn clipped an aluminum light pole (clean cut, mashed the passenger side door went clean over the roof) went through a chain link fence into the middle of a field... me and my brother were alrightbut the car only wanted to drive in circles after that :O) lucky...if you think the car your buddy has is a good car. have him e-mail me [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks "HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL" Jimmy .C - Original Message - From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chevelle Group" Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:20 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] '73 El Camino $1000 FIRM My friend has not yet sold his '73 El Camino, so I thought I'd post it again. He is selling the car w/o motor and trans, and the car is the one in the pics shown at these links: http://www.59registry.hypermart.net/elcofrt.jpg http://www.59registry.hypermart.net/elcobck.jpg It also has the following options/features: -4.56 posi (8.5") rear -power brakes -swivel buckets -Grant Steering Wheel Please call Scott at 410-620-4615 for more info. The car is located on the DE/MD line. He is selling it for $1K firm. I'd definitely take it if I had an extra garage.. Just tell him you got the info from Jim Brady. Jim '66 Malibu __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alignment shims
Yes..I have too agree...It is starting to look real nice as it comes together...I have used a combo of gloss..60% gloss and matte black on the various pieces... John
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
I had a chevelle one time that had a tall intake and I guess a taller than stock air cleaner. I took the frame mounts off of the thing and sat the motor mounts down on the frame and took some thick washers and cut one side flat, put the bolts through the motor mounts and washers and welded the washers to the frame. Gave me a little over an inch more clearance. Never had any problems with it far as I could tell. I know the motor is supposed to sit with the back a little lower but I never noticed any difference. Crazy what I used to do when I was young and didn't know any better... Danny Wilsher Wilsher Motorsports Inc. - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts As I said in a previous post, I ordered BB engine mounts for my 396. It wouldn't fit the frame mounts without maybe 1/2 inch of shimming. I took a frame mount off and went to another auto parts store. I asked for a set of BB engine mounts. Same problem. I had to buy a set of motor mounts identified for a 327 to avoid shimming. I just figured whomever owned my 66 at one time of other changed the engine and put in a SBC... now you guys are telling me there's no difference, but John (I think) posted that he too had to shim... Ultimately, I just need to have my engine sit as low as possible so I can use my stock SS hood. Any word of wisdom? Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alignment shims
John, When I do a complete front end and paint or powdercoat everything I always put the old shims back in for the drive to the alignment shop. Course the old shims look like crap with rust so I ask them to put all new shims in for the look, since I use the same shop for all alignments they do it with no problem. Ever so often I run across one that would be a problem driving even with the old shims in place, then have to break out the trailer. Nothing looks better then a newly rebuilt powdercoated front end, unless it is something else. D.R. Jones John wrote: Everything will be new except for the upper and lower contol arms... John
Re: [Chevelle-list] A Good New Year
Sounds good, when the deal is final and I actually have a definite date and time will let you know. D.R. Jones Clint Hooper wrote: You need to look me up when you get in town. I'll cruise over to Kickapoo airport in my 69. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: "D.R. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> According to the Collins Foundation website that owns and tours the old warbirds it will be $425.00 for an hour, engine start to engine stop time. I am shooting for the April 6 date, figured Wichita Falls would have less time on ground before take off so might see more air time. D.R. Jones Dan Mascheck wrote: What does a ride on a B-24 cost? I'm interested as well! Dan Mascheck Wharton, TX -Original Message- From: D.R. Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:05 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] A Good New Year I hope each made it thru all the holidays in good fashion. I hope everyone gets to finish their projects and/or start new ones in this new year. Dale welcome to the ranks of the retired, now you will find out you never have enough time to do anything and will want to go back to work to 'rest up'. I will try to finish two projects this year and am looking forward to it. Also on my April birthday already have plans to drive up to Wichita Falls, TX and get a (paid) ride on a B-24 Liberator, hope that works out. Anyway, everyone have a very good New Year. D.R. Jones Burleson, TX
Re: [Chevelle-list] A Good New Year
You need to look me up when you get in town. I'll cruise over to Kickapoo airport in my 69. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: "D.R. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > According to the Collins Foundation website that owns and tours the old > warbirds it will be $425.00 for an hour, engine start to engine stop > time. I am shooting for the April 6 date, figured Wichita Falls would > have less time on ground before take off so might see more air time. > D.R. Jones > > Dan Mascheck wrote: > > > What does a ride on a B-24 cost? I'm interested as well! > > > >Dan Mascheck > >Wharton, TX > > > > -Original Message- > > From: D.R. Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:05 PM > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > Subject: [Chevelle-list] A Good New Year > > > > I hope each made it thru all the holidays in good fashion. I hope > > everyone gets to finish their projects and/or start new ones in this new > > year. Dale welcome to the ranks of the retired, now you will find out > > you never have enough time to do anything and will want to go back to > > work to 'rest up'. I will try to finish two projects this year and am > > looking forward to it. Also on my April birthday already have plans to > > drive up to Wichita Falls, TX and get a (paid) ride on a B-24 Liberator, > > hope that works out. > > > > Anyway, everyone have a very good New Year. > > > > D.R. Jones > > Burleson, TX > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] A Good New Year
According to the Collins Foundation website that owns and tours the old warbirds it will be $425.00 for an hour, engine start to engine stop time. I am shooting for the April 6 date, figured Wichita Falls would have less time on ground before take off so might see more air time. D.R. Jones Dan Mascheck wrote: What does a ride on a B-24 cost? I'm interested as well! Dan Mascheck Wharton, TX -Original Message- From: D.R. Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:05 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] A Good New Year I hope each made it thru all the holidays in good fashion. I hope everyone gets to finish their projects and/or start new ones in this new year. Dale welcome to the ranks of the retired, now you will find out you never have enough time to do anything and will want to go back to work to 'rest up'. I will try to finish two projects this year and am looking forward to it. Also on my April birthday already have plans to drive up to Wichita Falls, TX and get a (paid) ride on a B-24 Liberator, hope that works out. Anyway, everyone have a very good New Year. D.R. Jones Burleson, TX
RE: [Chevelle-list] '72 Heavy Chevy For Sale in the New Orleans area
Title: Message Not to my knowledge. John L. ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html http://www.larueclassics.com/gallery/gallery%20pages/lodanier-chv70.html -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gailSent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:08 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] '72 Heavy Chevy For Sale in the New Orleans area john, you dont reckon that chevy was a victim of hurricane katrina do ya? - Original Message - From: John W. Lonadier, Jr. To: Chevelle Net Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] '72 Heavy Chevy For Sale in the New Orleans area There has been a '72 Heavy Chevy for sale in the local paper for about two weeks now. Add says; PS, PB, AC, 350 Turbo Orig, Low Miles. Must see, drive anywhere, needs nothing $17,995. Email me off list and I will send the local phone number, will be glad to go and take a look at it for anyone interested. I think I spoke with the owner at one of the local cruise nights last year. John L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html http://www.larueclassics.com/gallery/gallery%20pages/lodanier-chv70.html
RE: [Chevelle-list] '72 Heavy Chevy For Sale in the New Orleans area
Title: Message Doin' just fine, will be putting on a new set of heads I had bigger valves put in, 2.19's & 1.88's. Just wanted to wake up the ole girl a little more. John L. ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html http://www.larueclassics.com/gallery/gallery%20pages/lodanier-chv70.html -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:01 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] '72 Heavy Chevy For Sale in the New Orleans area Hey John, Im not interested in the Heavy Chevy, Just wanted to see how you and the Chevelle were. Happy New Year! -Tim King-
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alignment shims
Everything will be new except for the upper and lower contol arms... John
RE: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
That makes a lot of sense. I wonder if the geniuses that came up with that idea had anything to do with killing the Camaro. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:03 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts In a message dated 1/2/2006 7:59:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom, correct me if I'm wrong, but the external motor mount bolt hole lugs on the sides of the 307 block are the same size/shape/location as they are on any other Chevy small block. However, for some reason Chevy chose to create unique frame mounts specifically for the 307 even though there is no external difference between a 307 block and the other Chevy small blocks. Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm Correct Herb. The bolt pattern is the same, but for whatever reason, they changed the height of the motor mounts and frame mounts. Tom
RE: [Chevelle-list] Alignment shims
If you're rebuilding the front end and not changing anything else, the original shims will work fine to get to the shop. Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chevelle ListSent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:58 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Alignment shims I was talking to the guy at the alignment shop here and he says that after I have finished my front end rebuild that I shouldn't put the shims back in the upper contol arm cross shafts and to just tighten themp up and take it to him and he will replace the shims as neededI have read that you are to keep the shims and put them back in the same as you took them out and this will get your alignment close enough to drive to the shop. I was wondering which way to go with thisAnybody have any experiences or suggestions..??? John
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alignment shims
In a message dated 1/2/2006 8:00:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was talking to the guy at the alignment shop here and he says that after I have finished my front end rebuild that I shouldn't put the shims back in the upper contol arm cross shafts and to just tighten themp up and take it to him and he will replace the shims as neededI have read that you are to keep the shims and put them back in the same as you took them out and this will get your alignment close enough to drive to the shop. I was wondering which way to go with thisAnybody have any experiences or suggestions..??? John I would put them back in there to get it to an alignment shop. Yes, it will be off, but it's better than having nothing in there. If you put no shims in and you go to drive it, it could possibly destroy your tires in the short distance it may be to the shop, therefore your tires will never wear properly causing other problems such as wheel shimmy, pulling left or right, etc. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alignment shims
I used to do alignments and it is easier if the shims are back in and they can be adjusted as necessary. - Original Message - From: Chevelle List To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alignment shims I was talking to the guy at the alignment shop here and he says that after I have finished my front end rebuild that I shouldn't put the shims back in the upper contol arm cross shafts and to just tighten themp up and take it to him and he will replace the shims as neededI have read that you are to keep the shims and put them back in the same as you took them out and this will get your alignment close enough to drive to the shop. I was wondering which way to go with thisAnybody have any experiences or suggestions..??? John
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
In a message dated 1/2/2006 7:59:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom, correct me if I'm wrong, but the external motor mount bolt hole lugs on the sides of the 307 block are the same size/shape/location as they are on any other Chevy small block. However, for some reason Chevy chose to create unique frame mounts specifically for the 307 even though there is no external difference between a 307 block and the other Chevy small blocks. Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm Correct Herb. The bolt pattern is the same, but for whatever reason, they changed the height of the motor mounts and frame mounts. Tom
[Chevelle-list] Alignment shims
I was talking to the guy at the alignment shop here and he says that after I have finished my front end rebuild that I shouldn't put the shims back in the upper contol arm cross shafts and to just tighten themp up and take it to him and he will replace the shims as neededI have read that you are to keep the shims and put them back in the same as you took them out and this will get your alignment close enough to drive to the shop. I was wondering which way to go with thisAnybody have any experiences or suggestions..??? John
RE: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
Tom, correct me if I'm wrong, but the external motor mount bolt hole lugs on the sides of the 307 block are the same size/shape/location as they are on any other Chevy small block. However, for some reason Chevy chose to create unique frame mounts specifically for the 307 even though there is no external difference between a 307 block and the other Chevy small blocks. Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:26 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts In a message dated 1/2/2006 6:21:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what you are saying here Tom is that the frame mounts are the same, but the motor mounts would be different?Thanks Joe P. 307's use their own frame and motor mounts. If you put any other small block (350, 400) in an original 307 car, you need to use 307 mounts as they bolt right up to a 350. If you want to put a big block (396/454/502) in an original 307 car, you need to change the frame mounts. If you have an original 350 car, or an original big block car, you can use the original frame mounts to put in any small block other than a 307 or big block. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts
You might have pinpointed why I didn't have a problem,Tom. My 68 used an electric fan set-up. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only problem I have ever seen it create is the fan coming into contact with the fan shroud. That is the result of the 307 mount being 3/8" of an inch taller than the other V-8 mounts. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] '72 Heavy Chevy For Sale in the New Orleans area
Title: Message john, you dont reckon that chevy was a victim of hurricane katrina do ya? - Original Message - From: John W. Lonadier, Jr. To: Chevelle Net Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] '72 Heavy Chevy For Sale in the New Orleans area There has been a '72 Heavy Chevy for sale in the local paper for about two weeks now. Add says; PS, PB, AC, 350 Turbo Orig, Low Miles. Must see, drive anywhere, needs nothing $17,995. Email me off list and I will send the local phone number, will be glad to go and take a look at it for anyone interested. I think I spoke with the owner at one of the local cruise nights last year. John L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html http://www.larueclassics.com/gallery/gallery%20pages/lodanier-chv70.html
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
As I said in a previous post, I ordered BB engine mounts for my 396. It wouldn't fit the frame mounts without maybe 1/2 inch of shimming. I took a frame mount off and went to another auto parts store. I asked for a set of BB engine mounts. Same problem. I had to buy a set of motor mounts identified for a 327 to avoid shimming. I just figured whomever owned my 66 at one time of other changed the engine and put in a SBC... now you guys are telling me there's no difference, but John (I think) posted that he too had to shim... Ultimately, I just need to have my engine sit as low as possible so I can use my stock SS hood. Any word of wisdom? Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts We will just have to agree to disagree about the need to change frame mounts. Using the stock 307 mounts with a 454 engine never created any problems with my 68. I think it's an overblown issue but that's just my opinion. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/2/2006 6:21:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what you are saying here Tom is that the frame mounts are the same, but the motor mounts would be different?Thanks Joe P. 307's use their own frame and motor mounts. If you put any other small block (350, 400) in an original 307 car, you need to use 307 mounts as they bolt right up to a 350. If you want to put a big block (396/454/502) in an original 307 car, you need to change the frame mounts. If you have an original 350 car, or an original big block car, you can use the original frame mounts to put in any small block other than a 307 or big block. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
The only problem I have ever seen it create is the fan coming into contact with the fan shroud. That is the result of the 307 mount being 3/8" of an inch taller than the other V-8 mounts. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
We will just have to agree to disagree about the need to change frame mounts. Using the stock 307 mounts with a 454 engine never created any problems with my 68. I think it's an overblown issue but that's just my opinion. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/2/2006 6:21:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what you are saying here Tom is that the frame mounts are the same, but the motor mounts would be different?Thanks Joe P. 307's use their own frame and motor mounts. If you put any other small block (350, 400) in an original 307 car, you need to use 307 mounts as they bolt right up to a 350. If you want to put a big block (396/454/502) in an original 307 car, you need to change the frame mounts. If you have an original 350 car, or an original big block car, you can use the original frame mounts to put in any small block other than a 307 or big block. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
Thank you Tom for that info. I quess where I got confused is that in my car which was originally a 307, when I purchased the car it had a 350. The previous owner must have changed the motor mounts. That is good news because with all that said, I just saved myself changing the mounts when I put the 396 in the car. Thanks Again Joe P.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
In a message dated 1/2/2006 6:21:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what you are saying here Tom is that the frame mounts are the same, but the motor mounts would be different?Thanks Joe P. 307's use their own frame and motor mounts. If you put any other small block (350, 400) in an original 307 car, you need to use 307 mounts as they bolt right up to a 350. If you want to put a big block (396/454/502) in an original 307 car, you need to change the frame mounts. If you have an original 350 car, or an original big block car, you can use the original frame mounts to put in any small block other than a 307 or big block. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
So what you are saying here Tom is that the frame mounts are the same, but the motor mounts would be different? Thanks Joe P.
RE: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts
I changed from a 1969 350 to a 1958 283 block and I had to shim the frame mounts. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:57 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts I swapped a 468 BB into my 68 El Camino that was formerly a 307 and kept the frame mounts. All I changed was the motor mounts. Never had a problem using the 307 frame mounts. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
In a message dated 1/2/2006 1:35:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with Herb, I have been reading all these discussions on changing mounts for the 307 to 350, but I swapped a 307 last year and installed a 350, I did not have to change the motor mounts.Now from a 350 to a big block 396, I do know that mounts need to be changed.Joe P. Not for 68-72. 350/396/454 all use the same frame mounts. Tom
RE: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts
I don’t know how much they go for but I found em and cleaned em off a bit…heres a couple of pictures -rj From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langstraat Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:32 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts RJ If the mounts are in decent shape I would be interested in them. Let me know how much you would like to have for them and we can work something out. Thanks again Ryan <> <> <> <> <> <>
Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts
I swapped a 468 BB into my 68 El Camino that was formerly a 307 and kept the frame mounts. All I changed was the motor mounts. Never had a problem using the 307 frame mounts. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts
My 66 came with a set of frame mounts already in place. I picked up a pair of engine mounts, and found the gap where the frame mount hump goes to be too wide. I would have to shim like 1/2 inch total to use them. I took one of the frame mounts off and went to the parts store to see what would fit. I ended up getting a set identified to work with a 327. I remember from a previous thread here either the SBC or the BBC mounts makes the engine sit a bit lower. Can someone tell me which is which? Thanks, Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Dale To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts If anyone has ever taken good side-by-side pictures of 307 Chevelle frame mounts and other small block/big block mounts maybe even along with some measurements, Id like to use the photos on my Chevellestuff.com web site. Might help explain differences to others in the future. Ive never had a 307 A-body so I cant say from personal experience what the difference is. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:12 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts Check out the free classifieds on Team Chevelle, you will probably find a good used set there for a decent price.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
I changed from 307 to 350 in my 71 Malibu. The 350 motor mounts would not line up. Ended up using 307 motor mounts on the 307 frame mounts...ds From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram MountsDate: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:34:42 ESTI agree with Herb, I have been reading all these discussions on changing mounts for the 307 to 350, but I swapped a 307 last year and installed a 350, I did not have to change the motor mounts.Now from a 350 to a big block 396, I do know that mounts need to be changed.Joe P.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts
RJ If the mounts are in decent shape I would be interested in them. Let me know how much you would like to have for them and we can work something out. Thanks again Ryan
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
I agree with Herb, I have been reading all these discussions on changing mounts for the 307 to 350, but I swapped a 307 last year and installed a 350, I did not have to change the motor mounts. Now from a 350 to a big block 396, I do know that mounts need to be changed. Joe P.
Re: [Chevelle-list] '72 Heavy Chevy For Sale in the New Orleans area
Hey John, Im not interested in the Heavy Chevy, Just wanted to see how you and the Chevelle were. Happy New Year! -Tim King-
[Chevelle-list] '73 El Camino $1000 FIRM
My friend has not yet sold his '73 El Camino, so I thought I'd post it again. He is selling the car w/o motor and trans, and the car is the one in the pics shown at these links: http://www.59registry.hypermart.net/elcofrt.jpg http://www.59registry.hypermart.net/elcobck.jpg It also has the following options/features: -4.56 posi (8.5") rear -power brakes -swivel buckets -Grant Steering Wheel Please call Scott at 410-620-4615 for more info. The car is located on the DE/MD line. He is selling it for $1K firm. I'd definitely take it if I had an extra garage.. Just tell him you got the info from Jim Brady. Jim '66 Malibu __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts
In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:14:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone has ever taken good side-by-side pictures of 307 Chevelle frame mounts and other small block/big block mounts – maybe even along with some measurements, I’d like to use the photos on my Chevellestuff.com web site. Might help explain differences to others in the future. I’ve never had a 307 A-body so I can’t say from personal experience what the difference is. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 Dale, I have some somewhere, I'll see if I can dig them out and get some pictures. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
In a message dated 1/2/2006 9:46:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: isn't the 307 a small block olds engine? the same as the 350R ? No, the 307 Olds didn't come out until 1981. The 307 Chevy engine was released to replace the 283. Tom
RE: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts
If you cant find any I got a pair in my garage taking up space -rj From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:48 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts Believe it or not, these are available through aftermarket. I changed my 307 mounts out for the other mounts as well. Check out www.chevroletrestorationworld.com and they should have them. I am sure most other restoration supply houses can get them as well. May even be on E-bay. Steve - Original Message - From: Ryan Langstraat To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: 1/1/2006 10:04:19 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts Tom Thank you for the reply. Yes, my car was a 307 originally. I am in the long and expensive process of dropping a big block in and just wanted to make sure I was right. Thanks again Ryan
Re: [Chevelle-list] nash metronino
all you chevelle -el camino buffs check out e-bay item 4600600300. someone had the right idea john
RE: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts
If anyone has ever taken good side-by-side pictures of 307 Chevelle frame mounts and other small block/big block mounts – maybe even along with some measurements, I’d like to use the photos on my Chevellestuff.com web site. Might help explain differences to others in the future. I’ve never had a 307 A-body so I can’t say from personal experience what the difference is. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:12 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Mounts Check out the free classifieds on Team Chevelle, you will probably find a good used set there for a decent price.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
isn't the 307 a small block olds engine? the same as the 350R ? - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:11 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts I've seen this discussion numerous times before, but now I have to ask... Why does a 307 use unique frame mounts? Externally, a small block Chevy is a small block Chevy. I've swapped numerous engines over the years, the only time I've had to change the frame mounts was when I put a V8 where a 6 was. With that said, my El is the only A-body I've owned, most of my cars prior to this were either Camaros or Corvettes and I never had to change frame mounts (except for the 6 to V8 swap). Is the frame mount an A-body only issue? Just curious, thanks. Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:58 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts In a message dated 1/1/2006 9:54:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know we have talked about these before but one more question. The small block frame mounts on my chevelle are 2" tall. I am looking at getting the big block frame mounts and the guy says that they are 1 5/8" tall. Does this sound right? I know that I can use the small block mounts but I just have a gut feeling that I need to use the big block mounts. If anybody has the big block mounts can you measure them and let me know how tall they are? Thank you and hope all of you had a happy holiday week. Ryan Was your car originally a 307 car? If so, then yes, you will need to change the mounts. 307 mounts are slightly taller than 350/402/454 mounts. Tom
[Chevelle-list] '72 Heavy Chevy For Sale in the New Orleans area
Title: Message There has been a '72 Heavy Chevy for sale in the local paper for about two weeks now. Add says; PS, PB, AC, 350 Turbo Orig, Low Miles. Must see, drive anywhere, needs nothing $17,995. Email me off list and I will send the local phone number, will be glad to go and take a look at it for anyone interested. I think I spoke with the owner at one of the local cruise nights last year. John L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html http://www.larueclassics.com/gallery/gallery%20pages/lodanier-chv70.html
RE: [Chevelle-list] Happy New Year
I'm jealous!! I have about 13 years to go. Good luck with your retirement.-Original Message- From: Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Jan 1, 2006 11:11 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Happy New Year With today being my first official day of retirement, its been a Happy New Year for me already. Best of luck to everyone this year and may all your problems be little ones! Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
Re: [Chevelle-list] Metallic Drum Brake Shoes
I have only seen them for Motorcycles. How about these www.praisedynobrake.comwww.chevelles.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-28229.htmlJohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone on the list know where I can find the J52 option "sintered iron brake shoes" for drum brakes. I used them back in the 60's on a Chevelle and got 90+ thousand miles and good stops with them. John Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.
RE: [Chevelle-list] A Good New Year
What does a ride on a B-24 cost? I'm interested as well! Dan Mascheck Wharton, TX -Original Message- From: D.R. Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:05 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] A Good New Year I hope each made it thru all the holidays in good fashion. I hope everyone gets to finish their projects and/or start new ones in this new year. Dale welcome to the ranks of the retired, now you will find out you never have enough time to do anything and will want to go back to work to 'rest up'. I will try to finish two projects this year and am looking forward to it. Also on my April birthday already have plans to drive up to Wichita Falls, TX and get a (paid) ride on a B-24 Liberator, hope that works out. Anyway, everyone have a very good New Year. D.R. Jones Burleson, TX
RE: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts
I've seen this discussion numerous times before, but now I have to ask... Why does a 307 use unique frame mounts? Externally, a small block Chevy is a small block Chevy. I've swapped numerous engines over the years, the only time I've had to change the frame mounts was when I put a V8 where a 6 was. With that said, my El is the only A-body I've owned, most of my cars prior to this were either Camaros or Corvettes and I never had to change frame mounts (except for the 6 to V8 swap). Is the frame mount an A-body only issue? Just curious, thanks. Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:58 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Fram Mounts In a message dated 1/1/2006 9:54:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know we have talked about these before but one more question. The small block frame mounts on my chevelle are 2" tall. I am looking at getting the big block frame mounts and the guy says that they are 1 5/8" tall. Does this sound right? I know that I can use the small block mounts but I just have a gut feeling that I need to use the big block mounts. If anybody has the big block mounts can you measure them and let me know how tall they are? Thank you and hope all of you had a happy holiday week. Ryan Was your car originally a 307 car? If so, then yes, you will need to change the mounts. 307 mounts are slightly taller than 350/402/454 mounts. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle Molding Clip Stud (#4600675980) Anyone usethese?
Dan sorry I forgot to send email address etc. of where I got mine. Even have complete kit for window/windshield. [EMAIL PROTECTED] They were reasonable and very good to deal with. John - Original Message - From: Dan To: chevelle Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:30 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle Molding Clip Stud (#4600675980) Anyone usethese? Sorry about the last post. I was just wondering if anyone had used these?Chevelle Molding Clip Stud (#4600675980) Personal message: I saw this on eBay and thought you might be interested. 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 GTO Chevelle Molding Clip Stud Item number: 4600675980 Seller: garysal ( 890) Positive Feedback: 99.9%Member since Sep-28-99 in United States Current bid: US $6.50 Time left: 1 days 23 hours5-day listing Ends Jan-02-06 06:05:54 PST Item location: Jordan, MinnesotaUnited States Ships to: Worldwide Summary I am offering quantity 10 #4-24 X 3/8" tapping screws that replace welded studs for molding clips. These could be used for windshield or rear window clips, or rocker panel clips. I used them for my rocker extensions on my 67 GTO. These use a phillips head for insertion. I accept all forms of payment from paypal to personal checks. Winning bidder to add $1 for shipping.On Nov-30-04 at 18:06:36 PST, seller added the following information: After purchasing, pay instantly with your credit card through PayPal! Protect yourself from Spoof (fake) emails. Learn More You are receiving this email because the sender thought you would be interested in this eBay item. You can report this message as unwanted (spam) email. Learn more about spam email. As outlined in our User Agreement, eBay will periodically send you information about site changes and enhancements. Visit our Privacy Policy and User Agreement if you have any questions. Copyright © 2005 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved.Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. Dan Dan
[Chevelle-list] Metallic Drum Brake Shoes
Does anyone on the list know where I can find the J52 option "sintered iron brake shoes" for drum brakes. I used them back in the 60's on a Chevelle and got 90+ thousand miles and good stops with them. John
Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle Molding Clip Stud (#4600675980) Anyone usethese?
Yes they work well if your window area is not too rusty. Just bought some more for the 64 SS Malibu I recently got. Boy the back window area is sure a problem on these cars. The one I had in 1964 had same problem by 1972. John - Original Message - From: Dan To: chevelle Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:30 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle Molding Clip Stud (#4600675980) Anyone usethese? Sorry about the last post. I was just wondering if anyone had used these?Chevelle Molding Clip Stud (#4600675980) Personal message: I saw this on eBay and thought you might be interested. 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 GTO Chevelle Molding Clip Stud Item number: 4600675980 Seller: garysal ( 890) Positive Feedback: 99.9%Member since Sep-28-99 in United States Current bid: US $6.50 Time left: 1 days 23 hours5-day listing Ends Jan-02-06 06:05:54 PST Item location: Jordan, MinnesotaUnited States Ships to: Worldwide Summary I am offering quantity 10 #4-24 X 3/8" tapping screws that replace welded studs for molding clips. These could be used for windshield or rear window clips, or rocker panel clips. I used them for my rocker extensions on my 67 GTO. These use a phillips head for insertion. I accept all forms of payment from paypal to personal checks. Winning bidder to add $1 for shipping.On Nov-30-04 at 18:06:36 PST, seller added the following information: After purchasing, pay instantly with your credit card through PayPal! Protect yourself from Spoof (fake) emails. Learn More You are receiving this email because the sender thought you would be interested in this eBay item. You can report this message as unwanted (spam) email. Learn more about spam email. As outlined in our User Agreement, eBay will periodically send you information about site changes and enhancements. Visit our Privacy Policy and User Agreement if you have any questions. Copyright © 2005 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved.Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. Dan Dan
