[Chevelle-list] off topic garage lighting
hi wondering if there are any electricians out there who know if this is true, a salesman told my friend he could switch his fluorescent lights from a T12 to a T8 type of light and he could save $1179.00 a year on his light bill and have more light with the same ammt of fixtures (13). I priced the fixtures out and they are 24.00 more per light (twin 8' tube) or 6.00 more per light for a 4-tube- 4' bulblight. I need about 90 of them for my shop so the cost on the light fixtures would be a lot more, but if this savings on lighting bills is true maybe it would be worth it?? (my friend owns a small muffler shop so the lights are on at least 8 hours a day). they claim the wattage on his fixtures are 490, and the new fixtures are 166. thanks for the help. Harlan
Re: [Chevelle-list] off topic garage lighting
What does electricity cost where you are? I madea few worst case assumptions here. Six day workweek with a few days off for holidays is about 300 days a year? 490 watts x12 hours x300 days = 1,764 KWH per year 166 watts x12 hours x 300 days = 598 KWH per year So, If electricity is $1 per KWH, then you could save the thousand+ dollars. If electricity is $0.10 per KWH, then you will save $115 per year. I have no idea what the cost of power might be for you, but I would not consider this unless the payoff was less than five years, as the life of the bulbs may be less than that. You will be helping the environment and society by not using as much power, but the direct economic costs to you should win out. Check out the electricity costs and the assumptions for the power (time and days), and you can adjust these numbers accordingly. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:25 AMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] off topic garage lighting hi wondering if there are any electricians out there who know if this is true, a salesman told my friend he could switch his fluorescent lights from a T12 to a T8 type of light and he could save $1179.00 a year on his light bill and have more light with the same ammt of fixtures (13). I priced the fixtures out and they are 24.00 more per light (twin 8' tube) or 6.00 more per light for a 4-tube- 4' bulblight. I need about 90 of them for my shop so the cost on the light fixtures would be a lot more, but if this savings on lighting bills is true maybe it would be worth it?? (my friend owns a small muffler shop so the lights are on at least 8 hours a day). they claim the wattage on his fixtures are 490, and the new fixtures are 166. thanks for the help. Harlan
Re: [Chevelle-list] off topic garage lighting
Harlan, I do lighting design work for a fluorescent fixture manufacturer. There is more than one type of both T12 T8 lamps. If your friend is using an F96T12HO lamp, two of them have a system wattage of 216 watts around 9000 lumens per lamp. F96T12 slimline is actually a 75 watt lamp with a system wattage of 158 around 6300 lumens per lamp. These are both 8, T12 lamps my wattage figures are based on magnetic ballasts (most likely for older fixtures). Incidentally, both of these lamp types are rated for 12000 hours per lamp. T8 slimline lamps are a 59 watt lamp have a system wattage for two lamps of 110 watts, are rated at 5950 lumens per lamp, a 20,000 hour life. The 86 watt T8 HO has a system wattage of 160 watts, 8200 lumens per lamp, 18,000 hour life. The 4, 32 watt T8 lamp is rated for 20,000 hour life you can operate 4 of them on a single ballast at 114 watts 2950 lumens each. All of my figures for the T8 lamps are based on solid state, electronic ballasts. Four of these is a good replacement for two of the 8ft, T8 slimline lamps. You can get the same light output at about the same energy cost youre buying a less expensive lamp thats easier to store dispose of since its only a 4 lamp. Bottom line, be sure of what youre comparing. You could replace T12HO with T8 slimline fixtures save about 50% on electricity, but then youd only end up with about 2/3 of the light that you started with. Regards, Dean Vandergriff Applications Manager H.E. Williams, Inc. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:25 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] off topic garage lighting hi wondering if there are any electricians out there who know if this is true, a salesman told my friend he could switch his fluorescent lights from a T12 to a T8 type of light and he could save $1179.00 a year on his light bill and have more light with the same ammt of fixtures (13). I priced the fixtures out and they are 24.00 more per light (twin 8' tube) or 6.00 more per light for a 4-tube- 4' bulblight. I need about 90 of them for my shop so the cost on the light fixtures would be a lot more, but if this savings on lighting bills is true maybe it would be worth it?? (my friend owns a small muffler shop so the lights are on at least 8 hours a day). they claim the wattage on his fixtures are 490, and the new fixtures are 166. thanks for the help. Harlan
Re: [Chevelle-list] off topic garage lighting
There you go, an even better answer than I made, because you have real numbers and light output (which I forgot). Brad From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean VandergriffSent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:18 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] off topic garage lighting Harlan, I do lighting design work for a fluorescent fixture manufacturer. There is more than one type of both T12 T8 lamps. If your friend is using an F96T12HO lamp, two of them have a system wattage of 216 watts around 9000 lumens per lamp. F96T12 slimline is actually a 75 watt lamp with a system wattage of 158 around 6300 lumens per lamp. These are both 8, T12 lamps my wattage figures are based on magnetic ballasts (most likely for older fixtures). Incidentally, both of these lamp types are rated for 12000 hours per lamp. T8 slimline lamps are a 59 watt lamp have a system wattage for two lamps of 110 watts, are rated at 5950 lumens per lamp, a 20,000 hour life. The 86 watt T8 HO has a system wattage of 160 watts, 8200 lumens per lamp, 18,000 hour life. The 4, 32 watt T8 lamp is rated for 20,000 hour life you can operate 4 of them on a single ballast at 114 watts 2950 lumens each. All of my figures for the T8 lamps are based on solid state, electronic ballasts. Four of these is a good replacement for two of the 8ft, T8 slimline lamps. You can get the same light output at about the same energy cost youre buying a less expensive lamp thats easier to store dispose of since its only a 4 lamp. Bottom line, be sure of what youre comparing. You could replace T12HO with T8 slimline fixtures save about 50% on electricity, but then youd only end up with about 2/3 of the light that you started with. Regards, Dean Vandergriff Applications Manager H.E. Williams, Inc. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:25 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] off topic garage lighting hi wondering if there are any electricians out there who know if this is true, a salesman told my friend he could switch his fluorescent lights from a T12 to a T8 type of light and he could save $1179.00 a year on his light bill and have more light with the same ammt of fixtures (13). I priced the fixtures out and they are 24.00 more per light (twin 8' tube) or 6.00 more per light for a 4-tube- 4' bulblight. I need about 90 of them for my shop so the cost on the light fixtures would be a lot more, but if this savings on lighting bills is true maybe it would be worth it?? (my friend owns a small muffler shop so the lights are on at least 8 hours a day). they claim the wattage on his fixtures are 490, and the new fixtures are 166. thanks for the help. Harlan
Re: [Chevelle-list] ID code on a LT1 engine
Thanks Rick! From: Rick Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] ID code on a LT1 engine Dan not sure if this applies to the LT1, but on earlier (post 87) sbc's the displacement was cast into the bell housing flange near the distributor. IE 5.7 or 5.0 . I know the LT1 doesn't use a traditional distributor but they do have a bellhousing flange (LOL). On 11/2/06, Dan Mascheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me where to look for the ID code on an LT1 engine. I'd like to know how when and where it was made and any specifics it may tell about the displacement and type of engine! Any help will be appreciated. Dan -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] off topic garage lighting
There are a lot of knowledge on this forum. Learn something every day. thanks mike --- Brad Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There you go, an even better answer than I made, because you have real numbers and light output (which I forgot). Brad _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Vandergriff Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:18 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] off topic garage lighting Harlan, I do lighting design work for a fluorescent fixture manufacturer. There is more than one type of both T12 T8 lamps. If your friend is using an F96T12HO lamp, two of them have a system wattage of 216 watts around 9000 lumens per lamp. F96T12 slimline is actually a 75 watt lamp with a system wattage of 158 around 6300 lumens per lamp. These are both 8', T12 lamps my wattage figures are based on magnetic ballasts (most likely for older fixtures). Incidentally, both of these lamp types are rated for 12000 hours per lamp. T8 slimline lamps are a 59 watt lamp have a system wattage for two lamps of 110 watts, are rated at 5950 lumens per lamp, a 20,000 hour life. The 86 watt T8 HO has a system wattage of 160 watts, 8200 lumens per lamp, 18,000 hour life. The 4', 32 watt T8 lamp is rated for 20,000 hour life you can operate 4 of them on a single ballast at 114 watts 2950 lumens each. All of my figures for the T8 lamps are based on solid state, electronic ballasts. Four of these is a good replacement for two of the 8ft, T8 slimline lamps. You can get the same light output at about the same energy cost you're buying a less expensive lamp that's easier to store dispose of since it's only a 4' lamp. Bottom line, be sure of what you're comparing. You could replace T12HO with T8 slimline fixtures save about 50% on electricity, but then you'd only end up with about 2/3 of the light that you started with. Regards, Dean Vandergriff Applications Manager H.E. Williams, Inc. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:25 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] off topic garage lighting hi wondering if there are any electricians out there who know if this is true, a salesman told my friend he could switch his fluorescent lights from a T12 to a T8 type of light and he could save $1179.00 a year on his light bill and have more light with the same ammt of fixtures (13). I priced the fixtures out and they are 24.00 more per light (twin 8' tube) or 6.00 more per light for a 4-tube- 4' bulb light. I need about 90 of them for my shop so the cost on the light fixtures would be a lot more, but if this savings on lighting bills is true maybe it would be worth it?? (my friend owns a small muffler shop so the lights are on at least 8 hours a day). they claim the wattage on his fixtures are 490, and the new fixtures are 166. thanks for the help. Harlan Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/)
Re: [Chevelle-list] 65 Paint Code E
Good page! It looks like I'll be going for the modern equivalent that someone like autocolorlibrary.com provides. Thanks! -Chuck K Dale wrote: Chuck, Check my page at http://www.chevellestuff.com/generic/all_paint.htm. Lucite (DuPont) is 4631-L, Rinshed-Mason (RM) is A-1721, and Ditzler (PPG I believe) is DDL-3302. Remember these are OEM acrylic lacquer paint numbers and may have changed. Dale McIntosh 1967 Chevelle Reference CD ACES #1709/TC GOLD #92 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Kranz Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:15 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] 65 Paint Code E Hi All, I followed the thread of paint for the 65 Danube Blue and 66 Midnight Blue colors. Way back then. I'm ready to get the paint for my 65. I'm looking in the Chevelle archives. But it's good to ask the list. Does anybody have the Dupont and PPG numbers for 65 paint code E? Thanks, Chuck K 65 Malibu - 327 4 speed
Re: [Chevelle-list] 65 Paint Code E
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