Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!

2008-06-06 Thread Trooper
I believe he was talking about brake cleaner not brake fluid.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Knight 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!


  No brake fluid. Don't use anything that may leave a residue, this would 
defeat the purpose of cleaning.

   Brian

   Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:16:00 -0700
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
   Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
   
   I've been using a stainless steel brush and alcohol to
   clean the metal. Someone recommended brake cleaner
   instead- is one better than the other?
   
   Jim
   
   --- Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Too far for a house call! Dan is right, cleaning is
very important. With AC tig, the current does the
cleaning for you. If you use the braze method, a
stainless wire brush will do the trick. Good luck,
and feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure I can
help.

Brian

 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:58:04 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum -
OY!!
 
 Elkton, MD
 
 --- Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  You could get the rods from any welding supply
  house, maybe even a local auto parts store.
Where
  are you located? I've owned my welding shop for
over
  20 years near Frankfort, KY.
  
  Brian
  
   Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
   Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum
-
  OY!!
   
   Thanks for the info, Brian-
   
   Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as MIG
  welding
   was when I learned how to do it. Would I have
to
   order that stuff thru Eastwood?
   
   I've included a link to a pic of what I'm
trying
  to
   get welded together. See below:
   
   http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG
   
   
   I would even be willing to pay someone in the
area
  to
   help me get this knocked out. I'm having a
really
   tough time with it.
   
   Jim
   
   
   --- Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   

For the material you're welding, tig would
be a
  much
better choice. Also, you can buy standard
coated
electrodes and use them like you would a
brazing
rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on
  something
so thin.

Brian

 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding
aluminum
  -
OY!!
 
 Yep, using 100% argon..
 
 Jim
 
 --- Trooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Jim,
  You didn't mention your shielding gas.
Are
  you
  using argon gas. If not you 
  should be.
  
  Trooper
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Chevelle Group
chevelle-list@chevelles.net
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:45 AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding
aluminum -
  OY!!
  
  
   With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG
weld
  so
I
  could
   redo the quarters, floors, and other
misc
work. I
  was
   able to pick it up relatively easy,
and
  have
been
   really thankful that I learned the
trade.
  
   However, now I have to do some
aluminum
welding on
  my
   Vette project, and let's just say the
  learning
   experience has been nowhere near as
fun. 
  I'm
  using a
   Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum
  feeding
kit,
   4043 wire, and getting all the info I
can
  off
the
  web.
   The metal I need to weld is .060, and
man
  is
it
   tougher to get welded than steel..
  
   I guess I just typed this email to
vent
  and
see
  what
   other tips others might be able to
provide
  who
  have
   gone through the same experience- my
  biggest
   misconception is that knowing how to
weld
steel
  might
   help me along with being able to weld
aluminum..
   WRONG! 8^]
  
   Regards,
  
   Jim
   '66 Malibu
  
  http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm
  
  
  
  
  
 

Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!

2008-06-06 Thread J. Brady
Correct Trooper- sorry if I had a typo somewhere.

Jim

--- Trooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I believe he was talking about brake cleaner not
 brake fluid.
   - Original Message - 
   From: Brian Knight 
   To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
   Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:16 PM
   Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum -
 OY!!
 
 
   No brake fluid. Don't use anything that may leave
 a residue, this would defeat the purpose of
 cleaning.
 
Brian
 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:16:00 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum -
 OY!!

I've been using a stainless steel brush and
 alcohol to
clean the metal. Someone recommended brake
 cleaner
instead- is one better than the other?

Jim

--- Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Too far for a house call! Dan is right,
 cleaning is
 very important. With AC tig, the current does
 the
 cleaning for you. If you use the braze method,
 a
 stainless wire brush will do the trick. Good
 luck,
 and feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure I
 can
 help.
 
 Brian
 
  Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:58:04 -0700
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding
 aluminum -
 OY!!
  
  Elkton, MD
  
  --- Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
   
   You could get the rods from any welding
 supply
   house, maybe even a local auto parts
 store.
 Where
   are you located? I've owned my welding
 shop for
 over
   20 years near Frankfort, KY.
   
   Brian
   
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding
 aluminum
 -
   OY!!

Thanks for the info, Brian-

Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as
 MIG
   welding
was when I learned how to do it. Would I
 have
 to
order that stuff thru Eastwood?

I've included a link to a pic of what
 I'm
 trying
   to
get welded together. See below:

   
 http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG


I would even be willing to pay someone
 in the
 area
   to
help me get this knocked out. I'm having
 a
 really
tough time with it.

Jim


--- Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
 For the material you're welding, tig
 would
 be a
   much
 better choice. Also, you can buy
 standard
 coated
 electrodes and use them like you would
 a
 brazing
 rod, with a torch. Much easier than
 mig on
   something
 so thin.
 
 Brian
 
  Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding
 aluminum
   -
 OY!!
  
  Yep, using 100% argon..
  
  Jim
  
  --- Trooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
   Jim,
   You didn't mention your shielding
 gas.
 Are
   you
   using argon gas. If not you 
   should be.
   
   Trooper
   
   - Original Message - 
   From: J. Brady
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Chevelle Group
 chevelle-list@chevelles.net
   Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008
 10:45 AM
   Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding
 aluminum -
   OY!!
   
   
With my '66 I had to learn how
 to MIG
 weld
   so
 I
   could
redo the quarters, floors, and
 other
 misc
 work. I
   was
able to pick it up relatively
 easy,
 and
   have
 been
really thankful that I learned
 the
 trade.
   
However, now I have to do some
 aluminum
 welding on
   my
Vette project, and let's just
 say the
   learning
experience has been nowhere near
 as
 fun. 
   I'm
 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] 200-4R transmission mount?

2008-06-06 Thread Brad Olson
-- Original message --
From: Bob Haggard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 So you are saying I won't need to replace or modify it, just
 move it back a notch.  Great news, thanks!

I'd say that'd be the best outcome...I did this swap in an
F-Body and it turned out OK, but I never did measure the
pinion angle to make sure it's within spec.  That was
almost 7 years and probably 15,000+ miles ago.

Brad



Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!

2008-06-06 Thread Brian Knight

Oops... sometimes my eyes work faster than my brain. Go figure.

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 08:07:58 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!










I believe he was 
talking about brake cleaner not brake fluid.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Brian 
  Knight 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:16 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding 
  aluminum - OY!!
  
No brake fluid. Don't use anything that may leave a residue, 
  this would defeat the purpose of cleaning.

 Brian

 
  Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:16:00 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
 
 I've 
  been using a stainless steel brush and alcohol to
 clean the metal. 
  Someone recommended brake cleaner
 instead- is one better than the 
  other?
 
 Jim
 
 --- Brian Knight 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Too 
  far for a house call! Dan is right, cleaning is
  very important. 
  With AC tig, the current does the
  cleaning for you. If you use 
  the braze method, a
  stainless wire brush will do the trick. Good 
  luck,
  and feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure I can
 
   help.
  
  Brian
  
   
  Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:58:04 -0700
   From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum -
  
  OY!!
   
   Elkton, MD
   
  
   --- Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   

You 
  could get the rods from any welding supply
house, maybe 
  even a local auto parts store.
  Where
are 
  you located? I've owned my welding shop for
  over
  
20 years near Frankfort, KY.

  
Brian

 Date: Thu, 
  5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700
 From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 
  chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Subject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum
  -

  OY!!
 
 Thanks for the 
  info, Brian-
 
 Alot of 
  this stuff is new to me, just as MIG
welding
 
  was when I learned how to do it. Would I have
  
  to
 order that stuff thru Eastwood?
  
 
 I've included a link to a pic of 
  what I'm
  trying
to

   get welded together. See below:
 
  
 http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG
   

 
 I would 
  even be willing to pay someone in the
  area

  to
 help me get this knocked out. I'm having 
  a
  really
 tough time with it.
 
  
 Jim

   
 
 --- Brian 
  Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   

  
  
  For the material you're welding, tig would
  be a
   
   much
  better choice. Also, you can buy 
  standard
  coated
  electrodes and 
  use them like you would a
  brazing
 
   rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on

  something
  so thin.


  Brian
 
   
   Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 
  -0700
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
  
   Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding
  
  aluminum
-
  
  OY!!
   
  
   Yep, using 100% argon..
   
 
Jim
   
  
   --- Trooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   
  
Jim,
You didn't mention 
  your shielding gas.
  Are
you
  
using argon gas. If not you 
   
   should be.

  
Trooper

  
- Original 
  Message - 
From: J. Brady 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 
  Chevelle Group
  
  chevelle-list@chevelles.net

  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:45 AM
   
   Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding
  aluminum -
  
OY!!

   
   
 With 
  my '66 I had to learn how to MIG
  weld

  so
  I
   
   could
 redo the quarters, 
  floors, and other
  misc
  work. 
  I
was
 
  able to pick it up relatively easy,
  
  and
have
  been
 
  really thankful that I learned 
  the
  trade.

  
 However, now I have to do 
  some
  aluminum
  welding on
 
 my
   
Vette project, and let's just say the

  learning
 experience has been 
  nowhere near as
  fun. 
I'm
  
using a
   
Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum

  feeding
  kit,
  
 4043 wire, and getting all the info I
  can
 
 off
  the

  web.
 The 
  metal I need to weld is .060, and
  man

  is
  it
   
tougher to get welded than steel..
  

 I guess I just 
  typed this email to
  vent
and
  
  see

  what
 other tips others might 
  be able to
  provide
who
   
   have
 
  gone through the same experience- my
biggest
 
  misconception is that knowing how 
  to
  weld
  steel
   
   might
 
  help me along with being able to weld
  
  aluminum..
 WRONG! 8^]
 
  

Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!

2008-06-06 Thread Mikey
Brake Kleen works great along with a stainless brush. I used to do a lot of
welding on aluminum fuel tanks,chipper chutes  radiator shrouds,it was all
done with a hand spool mig welder.When I did steel I just changed the cable
 gas  was set to go. The main  important thing is to just make sure the
aluminum is CLEAN If not... The weld gets impurities,which means you have
to grind down  start all over again..no fun.
Mikey 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Brian Knight
Date: 6/6/2008 12:02:43 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
 
Oops... sometimes my eyes work faster than my brain. Go figure.




Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 08:07:58 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!


I believe he was talking about brake cleaner not brake fluid.
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Knight 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!


No brake fluid. Don't use anything that may leave a residue, this would
defeat the purpose of cleaning.

 Brian

 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:16:00 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
 
 I've been using a stainless steel brush and alcohol to
 clean the metal. Someone recommended brake cleaner
 instead- is one better than the other?
 
 Jim
 
 --- Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Too far for a house call! Dan is right, cleaning is
  very important. With AC tig, the current does the
  cleaning for you. If you use the braze method, a
  stainless wire brush will do the trick. Good luck,
  and feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure I can
  help.
  
  Brian
  
   Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:58:04 -0700
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
   Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum -
  OY!!
   
   Elkton, MD
   
   --- Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

You could get the rods from any welding supply
house, maybe even a local auto parts store.
  Where
are you located? I've owned my welding shop for
  over
20 years near Frankfort, KY.

Brian

 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum
  -
OY!!
 
 Thanks for the info, Brian-
 
 Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as MIG
welding
 was when I learned how to do it. Would I have
  to
 order that stuff thru Eastwood?
 
 I've included a link to a pic of what I'm
  trying
to
 get welded together. See below:
 
 http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG
 
 
 I would even be willing to pay someone in the
  area
to
 help me get this knocked out. I'm having a
  really
 tough time with it.
 
 Jim
 
 
 --- Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  
  For the material you're welding, tig would
  be a
much
  better choice. Also, you can buy standard
  coated
  electrodes and use them like you would a
  brazing
  rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on
something
  so thin.
  
  Brian
  
   Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
   Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding
  aluminum
-
  OY!!
   
   Yep, using 100% argon..
   
   Jim
   
   --- Trooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Jim,
You didn't mention your shielding gas.
  Are
you
using argon gas. If not you 
should be.

Trooper

- Original Message - 
From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chevelle Group
  chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:45 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding
  aluminum -
OY!!


 With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG
  weld
so
  I
could
 redo the quarters, floors, and other
  misc
  work. I
was
 able to pick it up relatively easy,
  and
have
  been
 really thankful that I learned the
  trade.

 However, now I have to do some
  aluminum
  welding on
my
 Vette project, and let's just say the
learning
 experience has been nowhere near as
  fun. 
I'm
using a
 Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum
feeding
  kit,
 4043 wire, and getting all the info I
  can
off
  the
web.
 The metal I need to weld is .060, and
  man
is
  it
 tougher to get welded than steel..

 I guess I just typed this email to
  vent
and
  see
what
 other tips others might be able to
  provide
who