[Chevelle-list] Ref: CB 06
I'll be at the Red Roof also. Trooper should be there along with 2 or 3 others from my neck of the woods. Gary TC 56 Gold Aces 2412 GACC 28
[Chevelle-list] Classic Auto Air
Just a reminder that the $100 discount pricing on the "Perfect Fit" AC systems will expire at the end of the week. There are systems available for all years of Chevelle, Camaro, Nova, Impala and trucks. Classic has a special kit for converting Factory Air cars.. Send me an E mail off line if you're interested. Gary
[Chevelle-list] Re:Classic Auto Air Group Purchase
Describing how hard is it to install is kind of a subjective thing! Have you ever had the dash out, changed a heater core or the fan motor in the vehicle? Typically, you'll remove the whole "suitcase" (the under dash unit inside the car) and replace with the new one; take the heater control panel out, put a new blower switch and control cables on it and put back in dash:; run the new duct hoses to the defrost vent and dash vents, install a new center dash bezel; remove the passenger side inner fender to remove the factory blower and the box on the firewall; install the fan block off plate and the firewall block off plate; bolt the compressor mounting bracket to the engine and water pump, bolt the compressor on; install the condenser in front of the radiator, install the hoses, connect the pressure switch to the supplied wire harness; put on the crank pulley if not already there; get the right length drive belt and install. Then take to a shop to have the system pumped down (vacuum) and install 28 oz of Freon and your done! The typical instruction manual is 20+ pages with 50 + pictures. The shop that does my installations charges $600 and I think the factory will install for a little more than that. I think the "flat rate" is about 10 hours, so even if you double that for doing it yourself it could still be done in a weekend. I've got copies of the installation manuals that I can e mail (15 megs so you'd have to have dsl or BB) or mail. Then you can decide if it's something you can do. Gary ubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Classic Auto Air Group Purchase From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:58:15 EDT To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net HOW DIFFICULT ARE THESE SYSTEMS TO INSTALL? I SPOKE TO CLASSIC AIR A WHILE BACK AND THEY SUGGESTED ON A NON AIR 70 CHEVELLE THAT YOU HAVE THEM INSTALL IT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ONE OF THESE SYSTEMS IN THEIR CAR? A WHILE BACK WHEN A/C WAS BEING DISCUSSED ON LIST CLASSIC WAS NOT MENTIONED. THANKS, LES. 70 SS 396.
[Chevelle-list] Classic Auto Air Group Purchase
My partner and I are offering the "Perfect Fit" A/C system from Classic Auto Air for $995 thru July 31st. That is a $100 discount from the factory pricing. We'll need a minimum of 10 orders for the discounted pricing. If you are not familiar with Classic Air check out the systems at www.classicautoair.com Classic systems are designed specifically for each model and year and is the only supplier to offer a kit to fit 70 -72. All of the systems utilize the factory heater controls to control the A/C and Heat functions and the system has a true dehumidified defrost cycle. There are some other significant advantages to the Classic system. First is the fact that other vendors only have one coil under the dash. That coil is split and part is used for cooling and the rest is for the heater, maybe 2/3's cool and 1/3 heat. The result is less cooling capacity because there is less surface area to do the heat transfer. This will be particularly noticeable in a car as big as the Chevelle, probably wouldn't notice in a 2 seat street rod. Classic uses a separate coil for each function, like the OEM setups. The higher surface area allows more air to be cooled to a lower temperature much faster. The result is being able to cool the inside of a larger car much quicker and handle the cooling chores better on those 95 degree days. The other issue with the single coil is the possibility of freezing up the heater, cracking the coil and leaking antifreeze into the interior. The farther South you go the less need to run higher ratios of antifreeze as the chance of really cold weather is slim compared to the North, combine that with a low refrigerant charge and the evaporator will freeze up, breaking the heater core. Then to add insult to injury, many of the suitcase's are sealed and can't be serviced. It will have to be sent back to the factory or just totally replaced if out of warranty. The suitcase that Classic builds can be disassembled and serviced if need be, for the price of the O ring that seals the two halves together. Classic uses an extruded nylon shaft for all of the damper and air doors in the suitcase used to direct the air flow. Others use plastic doors with a steel wire shaft, these have a tendency to rust and stick after 5 or 6 years, and because the case is sealed, they can't be fixed. Under Dash Unit Engine Compartment The "Perfect Fit" system comes with everything (nuts, bolts, screws, ducting, dash bezels, firewall block off plates, wire harness, suitcase, compressor, compressor bracket, evaporator, drier, hoses, even rubber grommets for the radiator support). One other nice touch is the supplied adapters to hook up the defroster duct to the suitcase, other suppliers leave that up to you to figure out. The only thing you supply is the freon, drive belt and crank pulley. If your planning on keeping your car for a number of years and really want an AC system that works better than the factory unit and provides 20 - 30% more cooling capacity than many of the other vendors, the Classic system is by far the better choice. Classic makes kits for all years of Chevelle, Camaro, Nova, Impala, Corvette , Tri-Fives and trucks as well as older Mustangs and Mopars. These kits were designed for non-A/C cars, but are now available for some original A/C cars. Let me know if your interested. It usually takes about two weeks to put all the components together and ship and there are some optional items like polished compressors and driers. Just ask! __ GARY 71 SS 454 71 Malibu Convertible T.C. Gold #56 ACES #2412 G.A.C.C. #027
Re: [Chevelle-list] 1969 Chevelle Frame
I'll add my 2 cents to this. I have a 71 convertible that needed both of the the front body mounts replaced. After considerable searching these mounts were used on Monte Carlo's, Buick Skylarks, Gran Prix's and all convertibles. I don't believe big block had anything to do with the extra cushion. It was there either as extra support (convertible bodies) or as vibration and noise elimination (ride quality). I used one from a Monte and the other was from a Skylark. The mounts are totally different from from those found on hardtop chevelles. There were actually several things found on Skylarks and Cutlasses that weren't available on Chevelles that improved ride quality, reduced wind noise, etc. that would be associated with a higher priced (luxury) car. I can send a picture of them if anybody wants one. Gary Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 1969 Chevelle Frame From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:56:36 EST To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Funny I could of swore those extra mounts were on convertibles and had not darn thing to do with a car being a Big Block. Sure would make it easy to pick out a clone (non SS made into an SS) if they were missing those extra mounts. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] vin # and milage
Depending on how far you have the car apart, the VIN is stamped on the firewall under the blower motor. You'll have to remove the heater box and fan and inner fender well. I found it there on my 71 convertible and several other cars also. Gary Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] vin # and milage From: "EXT-Jasper, Garry W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:53:52 -0800 To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" I have another question related to the vin # if any one knows the answer. My vin number is only partially there, that is the one on the front windshield. The one on the driver door has been removed when they repaint. I have been told that there is one locate on the frame some where. I was told it was in the back end but I was unable to find anything there while I had all the rear suspension out. The folks at the department of transport seem to know where to look but are keeping that top secret. Does any one know were that third location might be. Working to restoring a 71 Chevelle convertible lots to do but pretty nearly ready for the first road test, but know I will have to get the licensing issue worked out. Garry
[Chevelle-list] RE: Right hand sport mirror info
Found the part number - 993800 RH Sport Mirror/ 9878201 LH Sport Mirror Gary
[Chevelle-list] Re:Right hand sport mirror info
A NOS right side mirror for 70-72 's just sold for $721.75 on Ebay! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4514328439&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT You are partly right as they could not be ordered on the car from the factory, but were a dealer installed option. The right mirror has a part number in the parts book. Gary Subject: [Chevelle-list] Right hand sport mirror info From: mark fellman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:27:03 -0800 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Hi, I have been searching for a RH sport mirror for a while. I just got an email from a guy that says that there is no such thing. He says that you couldn't order a car with a RH sport mirror and that the cars that have them, the dealer put on an Oldsmobile one that had a different angled mirror that is incorrect. So, is there such a thing and how would I find the part number? Thanks, Mark
[Chevelle-list] Air Conditioning that ain't puffin
Have you had the AC box off? The evaporator could be full of dirt, tumbleweeds, mouse nest,etc. and blocking the air flow from the fan. Gary Subject: [Chevelle-list] Air Conditioning that ain't puffin From: "Scott Somers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:20:38 -0500 To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You'all were extremely helpful with the question about headlights that I thought that I would pose another question to the learned group of Chevelains. Hope you don't mind another so soon. Got part of the answer earlier but now looking for more tricks and fixes. In my 68 Chevelle - Air flow with the air conditioning. It don't blow...it sucks. It has good cold air but air flow is not like I am now use too with these modern systems. Just had a relay put in the line to the fan motor - that helped the fan speed at lot at lower engine speed - changed out the squirrel cage to a light weight plastic with a 325 ( I think ) CFM unit. Helped as well but more puff is needed. Got any ideas. A 600 or up CFM would be good but it is a small box and I am not really into major dollar a/c redos. But I am open to anything. It is factory with an upgraded compressor. Seems mainly just poor air speed. As it is going, since it will be a little on the miserable side in July and August her in Texas, my wrench is going to throw in a new cam, roller rockers, "chrome" Edlebrock intake to replace the one that is not chrome( figures), moon finned valve covers ( boy have those climbed in price since I got a set in the 60's) and I am sure a few other things that will appear on the bill that he has not told me about. He keeps looking at one of his blown 502s and bigger sitting on engine stands in the back room and saying, "it could fit, cept fot a leetle hole in the hood " and a big hole in my wallet. Other than the fun of trying to make something old behave like something young ( yeah, that logic probably had something to do with my recent divorce ) I'm starting to wonder if I should mount the Chevelle body on an entire Corvette running system. Especially going into summer in Texas, any help will be greatly appreciated. You'all really helped on the lights. Running with crappy lights was a serious inconvience, running without good air flow is bordering on human abuse and should not be tolerated. Thanks in advance. I hope to help with answers some day instead of just questions. Scott
