RE: [Chevelle-List] winter show season

[Spencer, Darrell]

The Scottsdale Pavillions.  

Another reason to come to Phoenix in the winter.  I don't go every weekend,
but try and make it down at least once a month - especially during cooler
weather.  How can you not go see 2 or 300 cars that gather EVERY SATURDAY
NIGHT!?   These are consistently high quality cars. No junk.  Many for sale
with the signs required to be discretely positioned low and inside.  The
participation goes way up during January auction/show time, too.

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, Arizona
'66 El Camino
'70 Malibu

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Darrell,
I live in Mesa.  Do you hit the Scottsdale Pavilions weekly?
Steve


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[Chevelle-List] winter show season

[Spencer, Darrell]

Sorry guys.  Been in the mid-70's all January here in the metro Phoenix
area.  (That's almost 10 degrees warmer than usual - even for here).110
in July and August is no different than 10 in January and February.  I lived
in Massachusetts once.

But it's our show and cruise season.  

Once again, I feel compelled to plug the greatest car spectacle I've ever
attended - Barrett-Jackson in Scottsdale.   I was there last Saturday and
I've got to say that it just keeps getting better every year.  Everything
from Dusenbergs to Ferraris.  But, muscle cars dominated the procedings and
have taken the world's fancy by a storm.  Where once the European exotics
generated the most interest, things are shifting to classic Detroit muscle
now.  Chevelles were extremely well represented this year.  Check out the
following link and you'll see what I mean.  Search on Chevelle: 

 http://barrettjackson.com/auctionresults/default.asp

A lot of the reason for the high prices is that deep-pocketed baby boomers
from all over the world come to Scottsdale in January.  Barrett-Jackson is
the premier event and has spawned several others here, too.   At
Barrett-Jackson, 8000 registered bidders vie for around 800 cars - hence the
higher prices.  

The auction is only part of the spectacle.  Hundreds of vendors.  Absolutely
a must see if you're ever in the neighborhood in January.  Come to think of
it, it's a good reason to come in January.  That and the 75 degree sunny
weather.  Hell, I got a little sunburn Saturday!

Cheers!

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, Arizona
'66 El Camino
'70 Malibu
'73 Bonneville (Triumph)
'75 GMC 
'01 Blazer



-Original Message-
From: Mach4
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Sent: 1/21/03 7:46 PM
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I feel real sorry for you warm weather folks out there...we had a high
of 10* again today, and it's supposed to continue like this all week. I
heard a chill factor (wind compounding the cold temps, for you from the
tropics...) of -18* yesterday. But we still don't have hardly any snow -
I haven't had the tractor running since I took the mower deck off and
mounted the blower.
 
I wonder if the 396 would even fire up? It doesn't start real easy in
the summer!
 
Jimcentral WisconsinACES #20202 - '66 SS's

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:21 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] winter sucks

Dave,
  where are you at in Ohio?
 
While I agree with you that some of the boys in blue in some places,
mostly hiway guys and some little town guys, can be a little "tight", I
know one great city cop that talks common sense. He's a great member of
our Tri-State Chevelle club. In fact we made him our Sgt-At-Arms :) He's
on this list so be expecting some comments.
 
As for the winter and cold ok ...have to agree a bit there. Pretty
hard to do much including work on cars. While my garage is heated, when
you do something where you need to get rid of fumes letting a 10
degree wind come through kinda shivers your wrenches.
 
But the one thing I will have to disagree with you on is the general
statement that Ohio is not the car friendliest place in the world. Ok
..well maybe not THE friendliest ...at least in the sense that you refer
to, but with Jegs, Summit, Flaming River, and a whole bunch of other car
related businesses I can't even think of being located here, and the
great shows in Columbus such as Good Guys, big events at the raceways,
being centrally located so we can go to Chevellabration in a few hours,
Muscle car nationals in even less, Indy for a while host of car related
events, and even Carlisle on the other side. did I mention Michigan
above us?
 
 Well I think you get the point :)   Hang on man ...spring will be here
in a matter of days!  January is almost over!
 
 
Steve
 
 

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It's been so cold here and since I store my cars off my property, I'd
almost forgotten about them.  We're in our 2nd or 3rd straight week with
temperatures below freezing, and it's not letting up for at least
another week.  Cops in the summer, salt in the winter-- Ohio is not the
car-friendliest place in the world.  *sigh*
 
-Dave
 
it's so cold, even my e-mail turned blue!

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Me too Tim, down South in New Orleans. What area are you in?
John L.
ACES #5597
70 SS 454

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Brake problems part 3

[Spencer, Darrell]

I'm popping in late
here and may have missed a significant part of the problem definition, but when
the master cylinder was replaced are you 1) sure it is the correct MC for your booster
or pedal configuration? and 2) was the brake pedal pivot changed or adjusted in
any way?   I'm thinking maybe you're not displacing the
fluid sufficiently.  Might not be an obstruction at all.  Just a
thought.

 

Darrell Spencer

Cave Creek, Arizona

'70 Malibu

'66 El Camino 

 

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problems part 3

 

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Ed,
  The combo one is called a combination valve believe it or not :) They 
sell for about $60.00 and can be purchased from any of the resto. 
companies or directly from GM. But like Tom said, it is very rare for 
the prop. valve or the dist. block to go bad.



Ok...Now I have replaced the master cylinder and both front flexible brake
lines as well as both front calipers. Still no pedal and no decent flow of
brake fluid.Now the problem must be in either the proportioning valve or the
distribution block. So I know that the lines to the prop valve up front are a
problem as one wrang off and the other wanted to but I turned the valve
instead. Then I go under the car to the "block" and I have similar
problems on the front brake lines coming in. I would love to get the brakes at
least working so I can move ther car to a lift..not happening This is now
becoming a pain in the ass. I have owned numerous Chevys for the past 25 years
and I have never had an obstructed brake line...









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RE: [Chevelle-List] Insurance

[Spencer, Darrell]

I use Hagerty.  I pay around $120 for $15K
coverage.  Fewer restrictions than other Classic insurers, too!  See their
website at www.hagerty.com.

 

Darrell Spencer

 

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   What insurance does the list
  recommend.  I'm paying 307.00 which I think too much for Collision and
  Comp.  
  
  
   
  
  
  Craig
  
  
  69SS
  
  
 
 
  
  
   

 


 


 

   
  
  
  
 



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[Chevelle-List] El Camino Ranch Trucks

[Spencer, Darrell]

Hauled any hay in your Elky lately,
Herb?   ;->

 

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It  is a
driver and serves ranch duty as well, so there's often hay in the back
and horsesh*t on the carpet, but ain't that what they're for?

 

   


 

 









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RE: [Chevelle-List] Dash Bezel Repair

[Spencer, Darrell]

When you find out, please let me know.  I've
been looking for a passenger side A/C vent bezel for my '66 for a year
now.  They are very brittle, easily broken, almost impossible to fix properly,
and are not (to my knowledge) reproduced.

 

Does anybody have a '66 A/C bezel
they'd like to get rid of?   I'd pay good money.

 

Thanks,

 

Darrell Spencer

Cave Creek, AZ

'70 Malibu

'66 El Camino

 

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Subject: [Chevelle-List] Dash
Bezel Repair

 


 
  
  
  Has anyone come across a web
  page that provides information on how to repair broke dash bezels? 
  Thanks
  
  
   
  
  
  Craig 
  
  
  69SS
  
  
 
 
  
  
   

 


 


 

   
  
  
  
 



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RE: [Chevelle-List] Alternator conversion

[Spencer, Darrell]

John,

I seem to recall that a diode is needed in this application.  The ignition
circuit still sees voltage from the alternator (which is still spinning
after the switch is turned off).  I don't have the schematic handy, and
don't remember where the diode is used.  Funny thing is, I did this
conversion on my '66 El Camino several years ago and did not run into the
problem.  My idiot light works and every thing! Go figure.  I believe there
is a Tech article on the Team Chevelle website on this topic.  Worth a look.

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino

-Original Message-
From: John C. Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:59 PM
To: Chevelle-List@Chevelles. Net (E-mail)
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Alternator conversion

Ok, I upgraded my alternator on my 66 with a internal regulator and followed
the instructions exactly from Chevelle Tech
http://www.chevelles.com/techref/ftecref14.html  now if I connect the idiot
light wire to the alternator I cannot shut off the car. The alternator is
charging ok, and the car runs just fine with the wire off, but I have no Gen
idiot lighthmm..maybe it will not work because I'm not an idiot.  Any
suggestion from the Chevelle Gods?Could the ignition switch be bad?



JB



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RE: [Chevelle-List] Console Shifter Mounting

[Spencer, Darrell]

I went through this when I converted my '70 to factory floor shift.  It's
actually pretty intuitive where the placement goes.  The shifter frame fits
with the contours of the trans tunnel pretty well.  Shuffle it around until
it 'seats' itself.  Keeping that in mind, align the shifter's cutout for the
cable to the stamping in the tunnel and that's pretty much it.  Just for
giggles, you might want to lay the console over it, complete with the
shifter cover portion just to confirm everything lines up.

I remember being apprehensive before taking this plunge myself.

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ (car season again!)
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino

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Subject: [Chevelle-List] Console Shifter Mounting


I'm getting ready to put an AT console shifter in my 1970 Chevelle.  I'm a
bit aprehensive about getting it properly located.  Does anyone have the
hole locations from a factory car?  I can see the dimple where the cable
goes through the floor, but that's all I've got.

Wanting to measure twice and drill once in PA.



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RE: [Chevelle-List] [OT] birthday ride

[Spencer, Darrell]

The Army Stearman was a trainer.   My father was a private pilot and I got
to ride in one years ago as well.  An open cockpit at 6000 ft. is not
something you forget.

Darrell

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Well, it was built in 1942, so it couldn't be a WWI plane.

I did also see a Messerschmidt in a hangar, but saw the Fokker in the air.
It was fun because we had US Army markings and they had German military
markings so we did a little bit of mock dogfighting between the bi-plane and
the tri-plane. They even had machine guns still mounted to the plane, but we
were in a PT (primary trainer) so we had no guns.

I have never seen a Messerschmidt tri-plane and this was definitely a Fokker
because my brother has met the guy who owns it. He usually keeps it in
Rhinebeck NY. It's all black. Great looking airplane.

John Nasta



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I thought only WWI planes had Bi Wings ?

How do you know that Fokker wasn't a Messershmidt?



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Today my brother took me flying in a 1942 US Army Stearman PT-17 (open
cockpit WWII biplane). Super cool. We also saw a Fokker triplane with
German military markings. I could learn to like this. Uh-oh, another
expensive hobby...

John Nasta





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RE: [Chevelle-List] Air condition

[Spencer, Darrell]

I'd say it'll be a tough job to convert a non-factory A/C car to
factory-style A/C.  You'd be better off (although MUCH more expense) to go
with a Vintage Air kit.  They work very well and installation is a breeze.

 
Darrell Spencer
 

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no its not
 
Kind Regards
 
André

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Is your current car an ac car?
 
JD

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Keith,
 
I've found a guy who sell a complete setup from a 1972 model and I would
like to put it in my 1968.
 
I wouldnt mind getting some small parts or brackets, but does the big parts
fit ?
 
Kind Regards
 
André

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Can you tell us more. What A/C parts are you wanting to install??  
Keith

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Hi,
 
Does somebody know if AC from a 1972 Chevelle will fit a 1968 model ? 
 
Thanks !
 
Kind Regards
 
André

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Subject: [Chevelle-List] Brained Hose part 2

Thanks for the info guys. Am glad to see it's just i'snt me  doing the
install job the wrong way. I was going to spend today putting the rest of
them on but believe I'll spend it taking them off. I might keep the hose
clamp covers as they work fine and IMO look better than hose clamps. At
least that way it won't be a total loss.
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Headers

[Spencer, Darrell]

Sorry Craig.  It's a 454 big block.   Only difference with your app is that
mine is automatic.  Unless the Z-bar interferes, it shouldn't be much
different.

Darrell

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Darrell,

Big block or small block???

Craig

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I put a set of Dynamax on my factory A/C '70 (TH350) a few years back with
no problems at all.   
 
Darrell Spencer

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I have not been able to find a set of headers for my 70 BB, 4 speed, with
air. Anybody got any recommendations?
 
Craig E.


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RE: [Chevelle-List] Headers

[Spencer, Darrell]

I put a set of Dynamax on my factory A/C '70 (TH350) a few years back with
no problems at all.   
 
Darrell Spencer

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I have not been able to find a set of headers for my 70 BB, 4 speed, with
air. Anybody got any recommendations?
 
Craig E.


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[Chevelle-List] Restoration Parts (Best sources)

[Spencer, Darrell]

I know this topic has been beat in the past, but I wanted to get a feel for
where people are buying their parts and who's getting the best prices.   

I was in Huntington Beach, CA last week and was able to visit both Original
Parts Group's and Classic Industries' showrooms.  They both charge
outrageous shipping rates and I though I might save some freight charges on
some door panels.  I ended up not getting the panels (although I picked up a
few other odds and ends).

Anyway, has anyone done a recent interior restoration and shopped around for
the best prices?   I've pretty much spent money at all the big ones over the
years: Year One, Ausley's, Ted Williams, OPG, NPD.  Are there any new kids
on the block hungry for our business selling PUI stuff for less?  I haven't
shopped around lately and was hoping someone could share their recent
experiences.  I'm also looking for bumpers.  Who's best for repro bumpers?

Thanks in advance for any insight!

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, Arizona
'70 BBC Malibu
'66 SBC El Camino
'75 BBC GMC 2WD 3/4 ton (cherry all original...dang I'm proud of that thing)

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[Chevelle-List] Young Guns (slightly off-topic)

[Spencer, Darrell]

I just got back from lunch and felt the need to relate this experience.  I
pulled my '66 Elky into a station for gas and nosed up to a clean, straight
(but black primered) '69 SS Camaro.  The owner was just coming out of the
building and he appeared to be around 18 or 20.  (Hang with us, Chad).   I
chatted with him about his car, which had wide T/As on rallies, fresh
interior (hounds tooth - ugh) and a freshly built moderate 350 with a nice
lope.  All in all, a very nice package.  I mentioned to him about how
refreshing it was to see a young guy spending time and money on something
other that wings, stereos, neon and soup can exhaust on their Asian rides.
He said he preferred being in full control of his car if/when things go
wrong.  How true.  It is nice to be able to at least diagnose, if not fix,
ANYTHING that goes wrong with your vehicle on the side of the road without
having to consult with an engineer (as with more modern equipment).  
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not technophobic or anything (heck, I manage a group
of engineers in the medical device sector), but I believe this kid hit the
nail right on the head.   I am confident that our hobby is in good hands
going forward...not that I'm ready to cash in or anything (at age 44).
 
Have a great weekend - and sorry for waxing philosophical.

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'70 Malibu
'66 Elky

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Homework for Chad

[Spencer, Darrell]

Chad, just how young are you, anyhow?
 
 
Darrell (just another curious 40-something year old, playing with cars)

-Original Message-
From: Chad Playso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Sigh...well, I will post the results of the Chevelle Poll tomorrow, and I'll
see what I can cook up in the next couple days...I probablly will write a
lot about the Z-16s...
 
PS - I might not be able 
to make an "article",  but 
in the future I will.
Chad

. This is just a suggestion. I think it would be really neat to see
something like this come from a young chevellion as yourself.
 
Regards 
JDHall


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RE: [Chevelle-List] Car Poll...Favorite Year?

[Spencer, Darrell]

70 SS

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...

[Spencer, Darrell]

I don't have the production numbers (sorry), but I am certain that Chad is
correct.  The LS5 was produced in fewer numbers than the fabled LS6.  

Go to Chevelles.com - I believe there's a link to production numbers by RPO.

Darrell Spencer

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There is a 70 396 car that is rarer than the LS6.  I forget the RPO, but if
i 
can recall, it is an L89 ragtop.  There is also a 69 396 post car that there

were like 6 made. One of them was at Super Chevy in Maple Grove.  I also
know 
of a 1930 Cadillac Limo that has a V-16 in it and is valued at least around 
the $500,000 mark

Tom

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RE: [Chevelle-List] RE:Seeking Technical Help? - points 101

[Spencer, Darrell]

I would only add that I don't think a stock HEI coil will output 50,000
volts.  Maybe with an aftermarket coil, but not stock.  I'm not even sure
that the stock HEI was an improvement over the standalone unit.
 
Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino  (both HEI converts)

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Now, considering that today's HEI systems no longer use points ...and use a
much more effiecient electronic system for controlling the current flow
through the coil, there is nothing to wear out, nothing to go out of
alignment, no "float" at high rpms, nothing to change due to wear, and
nothing to adjust. The coil is also jacked up from the old 20,000 volts to
between 40,000 to 50,000 volts. This allows you to have a wider gap in the
plugs than back then, and a better ignition source (long strong ZAP across
the spark plug) for lighting up the gasoline & air mixture.
 
For me the points go in the trash!  I will NEVER go back to points...TECH
RULES in this case!
 


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RE: [Chevelle-List] Seeking Technical Help ?

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Sounds to me like you still may have the problem with the wire coming from
the ignition switch.  Here's why I say this.  The ballast resistor you
mention is actually a resistance wire coming from the ignition switch - the
one you referred to.  This wire drops the 12 volts down 9 or so at the
points to prolong their life.  This resistance is actually serving a
'current limiting' function which is what actually reduces the wear.
Chrysler products actually used a separate 'ballast' resistor usually
mounted on the firewall.
 
The wire from the starter solenoid to the distributor is there to provide a
full 12V to the coil through the points for quicker, more efficient
starting.  That 12V disappears once the solenoid disengages.   If that
starter wire is getting THAT hot, it may be the only decent path supplying
the coil - hence it's pulling a BUNCH of current.  Once you convert to HEI
(which you should do), you shouldn't use the resistance wire as HEI works
best with the full 12 volts, and the wire from the starter can be
eliminated.
 
Anyway, I'd check the ignition wire again.  Make sure that all connections
are good and that it isn't shorting to ground.
 
Good luck,
 
Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, Arizona
'70 BB Malibu
'66 SB El Camino
'75 BB GMC (8 mpg)

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Hello Everyone.

Iam seeking some help with a strating and electrical problem. Yesterday I
fired up my 66 Chevelle and everything ran fine , had no problems with
anything. This morning I went down to the garage to start it again nothing
happen. Put on the charger for a while and still nothing. Went to check the
connections on the coil and the wire running from the coil to the starter
was hot enough to melt in my fingers and the coil was as hot . Can't figure
this out how yesterday started fine and today nothing. I have a 350 cu in
and the starter and solenoid are in one ( meaning attached ) . I had a
problem once with the wire running from the postive terminal to the ignition
swicth and replaced that but this now something new. The car is still in the
works and not on the road yet...someone said something to me about a
ballast resistor ?? Is this something that came with the 66 Chevelle , when
I got the car is was mess but did see such an animal.This list has been
very informative and ! you guys have offered lots of advice that has helped
me with various problems. I usually don't ask for much advice, but I need
some help this time.thanks again

John
66 Chevelle Malibu
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[Chevelle-List] Back on the List- A/C experiences

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Hi Folks,
 
After a bit of a haitus, I've re-upped to the list.   Not much has changed.

 
I still have my big block '70 SS lookalike,  still as sweet as ever, but in
summer hibernation since a car with no A/C in metro Phoenix during summer is
not much fun.
 
I still drive my '66 El Camino every day.   I'm still way pleased with the 3
year old Goodwrench 350, but am ready to find a pair of Vortec heads and
install a cam once the mean season is past (i.e. when it cools down).   A/C
works well in this truck, but I made one mistake with that A/C system.  I
converted to R134A and kept the stock POA/Expansion valve setup.   This was
a mistake.  In any climate other that Phoenix, I'd probably be OK, but once
the temperature goes over 100, the system really struggles to keep up.  Much
better than nothing, but not at all like an R12 system.
 
Given my experiences with the Elky A/C, I made the right decision with the
latest entry to the stable.  Picked up a '75 GMC C15 pickup recently
(pampered, original owner, paint and 454/TH400!).   A/C was non-functional.
Had the compressor, orifice tube, drier and a hose replaced - thought about
going to R134A - and thought better of it.   Now, this refurbed R12 system
will freeze your arse out even in the heat of the day.   Expensive, but well
worth the extra dough.   YMMV.
 
BTW, it's good to be back.  Hope lots of the old crowd are still around.
 
 
later . . .
 
Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, Arizona
'70 BB Malibu
'66 El Camino

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios

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Every 4-series gear I ever heard had a pretty good whine.  I think that's
pretty normal.  Especially the 4.30:1 F**d I once had under a '70 M*g
(when I was still over on the dark side).

Darrell

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* * *  The 4.10's in it are 
used and whines so loud its not funny.  I guess that's what I get for buying

a done rear.

Tom


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[Chevelle-List] Barrett-Jackson

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Having attended the last three Barrett-Jackson auctions (including
yesterday),  I can provide some insight:  For the most part, Clint is right.
People are flying in to this thing in private jets, helicopters, luxury
motor coaches - you name it.  It would be difficult to find a more gaudy,
vulgar display of wealth anywhere on the planet.  Dusenburgs, Ferrari,
Lamborghini, Roll-Royce and Packard.  The wealthy can revel in their
flamboyance.  And they do.  
 
But, there are deals to be had for the average Joe looking for a project.
There are plenty of cars that don't make the auction block, but just sit
with a sign and a price - sometimes a good one.  Often, you'll have to
inquire.  Parts can be found, too.  "The Arizona Republic", Phoenix's
largest newspaper usually has two, maybe three columns of Classified Ads for
"Classics/Antique" cars.   For several weeks around this time of year,
there's almost two full pages of classified ads!  Much of it is local iron -
coming out of the woodwork for the auction season.  My sons and I sometimes
even just drive over to the site and park.  We just sit and watch (and
listen) to the cars coming into and out of the grounds - like the 427
Pantera yesterday.  I'd seen it inside and was glad to get to hear it drive
past.  Chevy or not, a car like that will bring on the wood, if you know
what I mean.
 
Money or no money, buying or selling, looking, tire-kicking or not, the
Barrett-Jackson is an event not to be missed if you're anywhere in a 1000
mile radius.
 
Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino

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$160K for a LS6 convertible? Some people have way more money than common
sense.
Clint Hooper
LT5 Registry
Wichita Falls,Tx
(940) 855-6636 anytime
'90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952
TX TAGS: USA ZR1
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Jackets and Carb Fires

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He definitely remembers it.  He's 10 now, but the allure of riding in a
big-block Chevelle overcomes any tainted memories he may have of it ;->

Darrell

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Darrell
   You probably scarred your son  for life.  Bet he won't even ride in
the Chevelle - NOT!
rick


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[Chevelle-List] Jackets and Carb Fires

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Reminds me of a few years ago after replacing a master cylinder in my '70.
It was in Texas, cold out, and I had my then 3 yr. old son with me.  Took
her out to try out the brakes.  Smelled smoke, looked in rear-view and saw a
black smoke trail!   Emergency stopped, got out and yanked the hood open.
Flames billowed up from the driver's side of the engine from down low.  I
panicked (had no extinguisher then, but always do now) and pulled off my
BRAND NEW jacket and tried to smother the flame.  No joy.  Still burning
vigorously.  I then managed to spot the brake fluid-soaked towel I'd been
using (and had forgotten) sitting down on the header by the collector.  I
reached in, snatched it out and the fire was then burning on the shoulder of
the road in front of the car.Other than some scorched paint on the
firewall and fenderwell, a burnt brake light wire from the proportioning
valve, there was no real damage - except to my ego.  Boy, did I feel stupid.

Darrell Spencer (who always carries a fire extinguisher now)



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... make sure you have something handy to
smother or extinguish a fire.  I used an old jacket to smother my carb fire.


-Dave



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[Chevelle-List] Elky Door STILL Stuck

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It's even more embarrassing to come back to the list for more help than it
was to find the door stuck in the Arby's parking lot, but . . .

I couldn't wait for the weekend, so I pulled the door panel last night.  It
was a piece of cake, by the way, even with the door stuck closed.
Everything is still connected and moving in the lock mechanism - the lock
rod itself and the door opener.  There's a long flat, vertical bar that
actuates the opener mechanism (which pivots in a vertical plane
perpendicular to the front to back axis of the vehicle.  I can't see what's
going on behind the plate, but it seems as though one of two things is
happening: 1) The lock is not fully disengaging.  (I believe this is the
problem because the lock knob travel seems just a bit short), or 2) The
pivoting opener mechanism is not traveling far enough to release the latch.
Nothing I did seemed to change the current operating mode.  And I jacked
with it for a good, solid half hour or so.

Either way I feel screwed.  I'm not a total idiot, but I'm at a loss as to
where to go from here.  I don't see any way to either get the friggin' door
open, or to remove the mechanism with the door closed. 

Sorry to belabor the point, but any suggestions.

Thanks,

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'70 Malibu  (may go back into daily service if things get worse with the
Elky)
'66 El Camino (one door)

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Elky Door stuck

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Actually, the button feels like a normally locked door.  There is still
spring resistance that returns as if it's locked.  That's why my major
suspicion is that it's a stuck lock, but I'm sure to be surprised when the
panel comes off this weekend.  It's dark-thirty when I leave for work and
dark-thirty when I get home.  I'd rather do this deed during daylight hours.

Many thanks for all the ideas.  The good news is that I don't recall ever
seeing this thread on the list before!

Darrell

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Does it feel like the push button is "dead"?  meaning that it doesn't take
any effort to push it in?  As if nothing happens when you do push it?
Whereas normally there would be some resistance as it pushes the release
lever?

If so, it could be as simple as a $1.00 return spring that needs replaced.
I've run into this twice now.  You'd have to pull out the door latch
mechanism, and replace the small spring at the top.

Let me know if this sounds about right, and I can give more details.



richard a schaefer wrote:

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>
> Darrell
>   I'd be willing to bet that you don't have a lock issue.  I bet it is
> the release  mechanism for the door.   Behind the push button is a bent
> finger that rides on and pushes against a lever when it is pushed.
> Either the lever is bent, or possibly the finger is broken.  Just my best
> guess.
>
> Good luck in getting the panel off  - sounds like one of those things
> that you need to try.  And fiqure out a way to make it happen.rick
>

> > >
> > > Question:  Anybody ever pull a door panel in a '66 with the door
> > CLOSED?
> > > Looks possible, but I haven't gotten to it yet.  For now, I'm
> > sneaking in
> > > the passenger door and sliding over before anyone sees me.
> > >

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RE: [Chevelle-List] name that tool

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Sounds like one of them thar Cummins diesel blower disassembly tools.
Either that or it came out of Elvira's bag of tricks.   A picture would
definitely help . . . or maybe not.

I haven't a clue.  I would suspect a very specialized, limited use item at
best.  (blower tool is a SWAG)

Darrell

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A friend of mine just gave me a bunch of tools. There are a lot of specialty
items and one of them is something I've never seen before.

It is a steel rod about 5/8" in diameter and 15 inches long, with a slight
bend toward one end. About an inch after the bend, the rod ends with a taper
and then a ball. Attached to the ball is a 1-inch long cylindrical thing
that swivels on the ball. That "cylinder" is wider in the ball area, but
then stepped back for the last quarter inch or so to a narrower diameter of
about 3/4-inch. Near the end, but still on the side of that cylinder (in the
3/4" diameter area), is a spring-loaded ball like the kind you see on a
ratchet handle to prevent the socket from falling off.

So, it seems to me that the 3/4" diameter part is supposed to be inserted
into something, and the spring-loaded ball is meant to keep that something
from falling off.

Since the end piece just swivels, it is definitely not a wrench of any kind.

Does this sound familiar to anybody? If necessary I can snap a quick
picture.

Thanks,
John Nasta



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RE: [Chevelle-List] Elky Door stuck

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I need to get a "slim jim".  I've seen them used.  I've had good results
with coat hangers in the past (always on someone else's car of course).

I certainly don't want to ruin my door panels.  They're only a couple of
years old!  That's why I was hoping someone had removed them successfully
with the door closed.

Thanks for all the kind words (and for not laughing).  

Darrell

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While I've never had to pull the panel with the door shut I guess it could
be done.  I'd be leery of tearing the panels up though, unless you planed on
replacing them in the near future anyway.  I locked the door on my 67 Elky
after changing locks and realized I left the new keys inside. (stupid...)  I
used a coat hangar and went between the glass and the outside channel to get
to the locking rod.  Took some maneuvering but it worked.  A slim jim would
be easier I think...finding someone to "borrow" one from though could be a
problem.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com

>
> Question:  Anybody ever pull a door panel in a '66 with the door CLOSED?
> Looks possible, but I haven't gotten to it yet.  For now, I'm sneaking in
> the passenger door and sliding over before anyone sees me.
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[Chevelle-List] Elky Door stuck

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Most embarrassing.  Picture this:  Just left Home Depot, Elky loaded with
new 24' extension ladder, 750 ft of Romex, 4 - 50 lb. bags of salt and
parked at Arby's getting lunch.   Come out to get in car and driver door is
locked and stuck tighter than Willie Nelson's hatband (quote from Dan Rather
election night 2000).  Not only that, it just so happened that I had the
lock tumbler out of the passenger door, too!  Luckily, after almost
panicking, getting pissed and inventing a few new swear words, I managed to
finger the passenger door open after fooling with it for 10 minutes.  Whew.
Almost stranded in a perfectly functional vehicle.  No way would I break
glass in this thing.

So, I don't know whether the lock is stuck on, or the release mechanism
isn't working although I think it's a stuck lock.  Either way I need to get
inside the door.

Question:  Anybody ever pull a door panel in a '66 with the door CLOSED?
Looks possible, but I haven't gotten to it yet.  For now, I'm sneaking in
the passenger door and sliding over before anyone sees me.  

What a crock.  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'66 El Camino (1 door)
'70 Malibu 

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[Chevelle-List] Weight distr., Elky rambling

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Thanks Dale,

I suppose my lazy butt could have dug up the info, but I'm working this
morning (don't ask) and just knew someone would be
 quick to point me in the right direction.

I admire your Elky.  My '66 was originally equipped (and colored) just like
yours 327/275/PG, A/C and all.  I'm in need of paint right now.  Someone
covered up the Marina Blue with White Pearl at one time.  It was awesome
when fresh, I'm sure, but now has more chips than a Vegas casino.   Really
the only major item left for me is paint (after smoothing a few door dings).
I'm like Jeff Smith of CHP though.  Now it's a daily driver truck.  If I
paint it, my whole perception will change.  His did.

Thanks for  the info!

Darrell  (and the ice is only fleeting at 2500 ft.  Flagstaff is in the deep
freeze)

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Darrell,

I have curb and shipping weights on 67's at
http://www.bull-enterprises.com/dalesplace/team67/information/weight_frame.h
tm - courtesy of my GM Restoration Kit (66's are probably real close).  I've
asked for/ordered a similar kit for 69 and 70 and hope to have them soon.
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67 SS/67 Elky
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Speaking of CHP...

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You know Kelly, I'm sure you're right. I'd always thought that my Elky felt
a bit more "glued" on tight corners.  Of course, the Chevelle is a bit more
nose-heavy with the BBC up there.  Definitely agree, although I'd heard in
the past that Elkys and Chevelles were nearly identically distributed.
Anybody know where to find the numbers?

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ  (ice on puddles this morning - not supposed to happen!)
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino

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>That is very good weight distribution.

Yep, that's very good alright.know what's got the best of any of the 
Chevelles? The Elkys have it at very close to 50/50


Kelly C. Hanna
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Overheating at High Speed?!?!

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Spinning the fan faster won't help a high-speed overheating problem.  The
fan is pretty much useless at speed as there's already more flow going
through the radiator than the fan could pull.   Spinning the fan faster
certainly helps at idle cooling issues (like in traffic in Phoenix during
the summer).

Darrell

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Try a smaller pulley. It will make the fan spin at a higher RPM for better
cooling.

Also, if you don't already have a fan shroud, get one. Same applies to lower
air deflectors. You want to make sure that the fan is pulling air through
the radiator.



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RE: [Chevelle-List] Speaking of CHP...

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I think it's worth it.  There are lots of articles on brakes, engines,
ignition, carbs, etc. that are of interest even if you're not into the
pro-touring scene.  And Jeff Smith is a car-guy to the bone.  I, for one,
enjoy his editorials and articles.   (and I don't really dislike the
pro-touring philosophy - my Elky is heading in that direction).

Darrell (cold in AZ but with a 35 yr. old working heater)

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> Congrats to Herb Lumpp.  He's a published author now (at least his CHP
> feedback was publish in Feb '02 edition)
>  
> Darrell Spencer

Is CHP worth getting these days for someone who's NOT into all
that "pro-touring" stuff?  I let my subscription lapse a couple
of years ago when Jeff Smith took over and the magazine turned
into "Pro Touring Monthly".

Brad


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[Chevelle-List] Rich and Famous

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Congrats to Herb Lumpp.  He's a published author now (at least his CHP
feedback was publish in Feb '02 edition)
 
Darrell Spencer

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Horns of a dilemma

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I recently did had to do this on my '66 when I replaced the steering wheel.
The center column is not grounded.   Found out a couple of months ago on
this list that the factory had this jumper.  It made me feel better 'cause I
thought I had "rigged" my horn when I'd added the jumper.  I used 16 gauge
over the rag joint.  Works great.
 
Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ  (cold today @ 50 deg)
'70 Malibu
'66 Elky

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So it's as simple as running a jumper wire from one side of the rag joint to
the other?  Can't be that easy, can it?  What gauge would you recommend; 10,
12, 14?  Now if I can just find a couple of eye connectors to fit over the
3/8"(?) bolts.
 
Dale
 
 

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the rag joint acts as an insulator there should be a short wire or braided
wire from one side of the rag joint over the rag joint to the other side of
the rag joint -- the wire in the steering wheel is a ground wire that when
horn button is pushed completes a ground to the horn relay making relay
supply + 12 volts to the horns
 
Bob K

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Could have been...  Since the steering column/rag joint turns, where would a
ground strap go?  Maybe I'm just confused on the terms used.
 
Dale

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dale: 
wasn't there a link sometime back about a ground strap near the end of the
steering column? 
larry 


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RE: [Chevelle-List] Driven Daily Drivers

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Kelly, the "new" Elkys get a 1000 mile deduction since they're still not yet
fully broken in ;->

Darrell

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>Just for fun, and because it's the holidays, I thought I'd ask folks about
>driving their cars/trucks (for the Elky owners).
>
>I drive my '66 El Camino at least 30 miles every day to work and back.
Many
>days I'll go to lunch, firewood and camping trips on weekends, soccer
>practice for the kids, etc.  I figure an average of 1500 miles a month.
>
>Not a huge number but as anyone here knows, you don't always drive them
like
>a '98 Neon (as in they beg to be flogged now and then).  And you need to
>lift the hood or crawl under 30 to 35 year old cars that are drive
>regularly.  You acquire lots of war stories.  I've got more than a few.
>
>So who drives their Chevelle or Elky the most ???   1500 miles/month.  Do I
>hear 2000?

I put about 4000 on mine in the last two months, but we were moving back 
here to Dallas from East Texas, so I was running the road regularly. I 
drive mine every day and put about 18-20k per year on it (about the same as 
you). We take mine on camping trips and other jaunts. We also have a 1983 
Elky we don't drive much (the wife drives it back and forth to find books 
and go to Karaoke)...she puts about 3-4k per year on hers


Kelly C. Hanna









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[Chevelle-List] Driven Daily Drivers

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Just for fun, and because it's the holidays, I thought I'd ask folks about
driving their cars/trucks (for the Elky owners).

I drive my '66 El Camino at least 30 miles every day to work and back.  Many
days I'll go to lunch, firewood and camping trips on weekends, soccer
practice for the kids, etc.  I figure an average of 1500 miles a month.  

Not a huge number but as anyone here knows, you don't always drive them like
a '98 Neon (as in they beg to be flogged now and then).  And you need to
lift the hood or crawl under 30 to 35 year old cars that are drive
regularly.  You acquire lots of war stories.  I've got more than a few.

So who drives their Chevelle or Elky the most ???   1500 miles/month.  Do I
hear 2000?

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, Arizona
'70 Malibu (1000 miles/year)
'66 Elky

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RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem

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You didn't say what the load was for the relay, only the supply.  However, I
would expect that this relay might be providing voltage to the starter
solenoid.  This is a common fix for the "hot soak" problem many Chevy
starters suffer from.   If so, then I think your ignition switch is
definitely suspect for the run-on problem.  

But first, verify  for sure that this relay is in line with the starter
solenoid.  If it's still in line with the coil, get rid of it, see if the
problem persists, and if so look to the ignition switch as your likely
problem. 

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino 

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I ran a #10 wire from the battery to a Bosch Relay that was mounted on the
firewall.  The relay is energized in the key on position. Not sure which
wire this is, but the car is at a body shop and I can't get at it right now.

Don DeCicco wrote:
> I have a 71 chevelle 454 that I restored over the past year. It is at the
> body shop being painted as I wrire this.  On occasion the engine will not
> shut off with the key. I have to pull the + wire to the HEI dist. coming
> from the relay on the firewall. Any help would be appreciated. 


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RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle

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Replace the ignition switch - especially if you're talking an "occasional"
problem.

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I have a 71 chevelle 454 that I restored over the past year. It is at the
body shop being painted as I wrire this.  On occasion the engine will not
shut off with the key. I have to pull the + wire to the HEI dist. coming
from the relay on the firewall. Any help would be appreciated. 

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RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle

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Wait a minute.  What relay?  I don't have a relay between the ignition
switch and the coil on my '70.  This could be a possible problem, as well -
if the relay isn't de-energizing.

Darrell Spencer

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I have a 71 chevelle 454 that I restored over the past year. It is at the
body shop being painted as I wrire this.  On occasion the engine will not
shut off with the key. I have to pull the + wire to the HEI dist. coming
from the relay on the firewall. Any help would be appreciated. 

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Good Guys Show

[Spencer, Darrell]

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Dang, Herb.  And you didn't ask ME to drive it over ???

Your ol' pal,

Darrell

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If anyone is in the Phoenix area this weekend, my Elky will be at the Good
Guys show.  I unfortunately can't be there because I'm still in Florida!

cYa-

Herb Lumpp
1966 El Camino
ACES #3509
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/index.htm


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[Chevelle-List] Steering Boxes

[Spencer, Darrell]

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The steering box in my '66 is leaking like a sieve (around the pitman shaft
seal).  It needs to go.  This is a power unit.  There have been many
discussions on this list that have revolved around power vs. non-power and
retro-fitting a faster ratio box to an earlier car.   

I have saved lots of discussions in many categories, but steering boxes
aren't one of them.  Can anyone please dredge up some earlier steering box
subject matter or summarize suggested swaps?  I'm particularly interested in
the conversion specifics (rag joint and high-pressure fitting) required to
adapt a newer, close-ratio box to my column.  Also, if there are suggested
sources for the suggested replacements, that would be helpful.

I may put the new box into my '70 and move that box to the '66.  I'm
assuming that, for the sake of steering boxes, the same methods apply for
both.

Thanks in advance,

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino  

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RE: [Chevelle-List] smugglers hatch - trunk conversion

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Would that have been Herb Lumpp?  I know he's done it all to his Elky.  I
don't know if he modified the "smuggler's hatch".   He lived down the road
from me here in Phoenix for a while, but now calls Tampa, FL his home (I
lived in Orlando for 10 years).   He's out on patrol (Coast Guard) for six
weeks.  Here's a link to his site.  Take a look at HIS Elky!  

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/Elky/welcome.htm

Regards,

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino

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Someone, a couple of weeks ago before I went on vacation, had a link to
their 
web site with a '66 el camino that they'd restored, stating they'd changed 
the smugglers hatch to a working trunk. No pictures of this conversion 
appeared on the site, as I recall. Anyone, have any info on the best way to 
do this, or have that web site saved? I think the guy was in the coast
gaurd. 
Was it Larry?
Thanks,
David '69 Elky



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[Chevelle-List] Herb's '66 Elky (et al) site

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Sorry.  Bum link.  Here's the good one.

/darrell

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/El%20Camino.htm

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Would that have been Herb Lumpp?  I know he's done it all to his Elky.  I
don't know if he modified the "smuggler's hatch".   He lived down the road
from me here in Phoenix for a while, but now calls Tampa, FL his home (I
lived in Orlando for 10 years).   He's out on patrol (Coast Guard) for six
weeks.  Here's a link to his site.  Take a look at HIS Elky!  

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/Elky/welcome.htm

Regards,

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino

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Someone, a couple of weeks ago before I went on vacation, had a link to
their 
web site with a '66 el camino that they'd restored, stating they'd changed 
the smugglers hatch to a working trunk. No pictures of this conversion 
appeared on the site, as I recall. Anyone, have any info on the best way to 
do this, or have that web site saved? I think the guy was in the coast
gaurd. 
Was it Larry?
Thanks,
David '69 Elky



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[Chevelle-List] Fuel Pump Recommendations

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Funny how different people have different experiences.  

The ONLY time my '70 has ever stranded me (and I had to leave it) was when a
brand new $15 Carter Pep Boy's special quit pumping.  This Carter was
replacing another Carter that was making noise.  At the time, I replaced it
with a Borg-Warner (I think) on the side of the road with some pimple-faced
kids cruising back and forth in a 5.0 harassing me.  They wouldn't stop, and
damn sure weren't around when the Big Block fired back up.  Too bad.

I now have a Holley in there - forget exactly which one - but it's not the
high-end job.

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino

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I had a holley 12-454-11 on my 70's 454 and it snapped a rod internally.
Not 
what I was expecting from a $50 fuel pump.  I put the good old $15 Carter
Pep 
Boys special on it have haven't had a problem since.

Tom


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RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevelle Owners and Garages

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Well, I just moved in May.  My wife had been looking for a year.  Her wish
list: bigger kitchen, room for the horses.  My wish list:  Pool, Garage/shop
space.

We both got our wish.  In addition to the 2-car attached garage, I now have
a large detached shop with room for 4 cars (40x45).  I'll call it 2 car,
since it would be VERY crowded with 4.  It has two lofts, one on each side
of the central RV bay (now Chevelle spot).  It's nice to have a place to go
and disappear.  I'm in the process of adding shelves along the back wall
(plywood and 2x4s).  I had thought of adding a rear door for drive through,
but decided on the shelves instead.  It needs water and expanded electrical
service.  

Darrell Spencer
Cave Cree, Arizona
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino

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He is a musing question for you Chevelle Lovers:

How many of you Chevelle owners have more than a 2 car
garage to store your Chevelles and other goodies ?


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