RE: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-12 Thread Mitch Barrie

Thanks for the replies.  I guess for that price "balanced rotating 
assembly" is the key word.  Really, if these guys were selling complete 
long blocks for half the price of everyone else, I would walk away.  Not 
interested in saving money that badly.

One thing that's interesting to me about them is how they are local to 
me.  Brad, if you are interested and have the time, I'd be interested in 
what you had to say about them after a visit.

As for the GM sale, I will definitely wait until after 1 October to see 
what happens.

Thanks again,

Mitch 


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Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-12 Thread Wayne Kline

Mitch , My read is " Ballanced Rotating Assy."
most 383 Strokers are externally balanced. With that said.
IMO the $$$'s  for crank/rods/pistions/flexplate/dampner
and rings. = Balanced rotating assembly 

GL
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> At 03:21 PM 9/11/2002 -0500, Dave Corgill wrote:
>  >
>  >Go here buy a NEW one from GM: http://goautocenter.com/383_small_blk.htm
>
> Thanks.  I am already aware of the GM motors (I have a ZZ4).
>
> This motor is also supposed to be new.
>
> Does the price make sense?
>
>
> Mitch
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Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question GM sale

2002-09-12 Thread WCross9844

There is a rumor that GM in October is putting lots of parts on sale; they 
may even do new crate motors...may be worth it to check your local Chevy 
dealer.

Bill C

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Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-12 Thread Chad P.



We know him (Tom Beck).  Well I do not know him 
personally, but my dad does, he meets him every once in a while.  or is it 
another guy, and not tom beck?

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  Crunch 
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  Speed-o-motive is very hit or miss, like a lot of race engine shops. I 
  have heard of quite a few complaints and problems with ASSEMBLED motors. I do 
  know one guy with a BBC that was partially done by speed-o and he is 
  happy.
   
  I would check out Beck Racing engines, Fast Times Motorsports, Sonny's 
  Engines, or ASR. They aren't necessarily the cheapest, but they are among the 
  best IMO.
   
  Mikey
  
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motor question
 In a message dated 09/11/2002 4:11:48 PM Eastern Daylight 
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:> "We offer a balanced 
assembly for you for apprpx.  999.00-1100.00 dollars, >  
and depends on the cylinder heads you are going to use. They are based on 
a >  4.030 overbore, but we also have others available. With 
decent heads and >  cam should be able to make 450 horsepower or 
more while still running on >  pump gas!!! If you have any other 
questions just call.">  >  That sounds way too cheap 
to me, especially since it's supposed to be a new >  
block.  Has anyone here ever heard of Coast High Performance, or their 
>  parent  Probe Racing Components?Hey 
Mitcho,  
Sorry, can't say that I've heard of them, maybe another lister can help 
out there.  For that price though, its gotta be a short 
block.  For comparison, check out SpeedOMotive 
(www.speedomotive.com), they are supposed to be the stroker kings out on 
the left coast.  I bought my 383 crate from Joe at All Chevy 
(www.allchevyengines.com).  He builds a good engine.  Maybe 
someone else has dealt with Coast, but reading their web site, it sounds 
like they are more into the F*ord stuff.  Good Luck. Here is 
the link to the specs on my 
strokerhttp://www.allchevyengines.com/383-400.htm-Kurt 
EhrhardtACES #128066 Malibu66 SuperSportEnfield, 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread Capt Crunch
  Speed-o-motive is very hit or miss, like a lot of race engine shops. I have heard of quite a few complaints and problems with ASSEMBLED motors. I do know one guy with a BBC that was partially done by speed-o and he is happy.   I would check out Beck Racing engines, Fast Times Motorsports, Sonny's Engines, or ASR. They aren't necessarily the cheapest, but they are among the best IMO.   Mikey  - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 6:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question  In a message dated 09/11/2002 4:11:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:> "We offer a balanced assembly for you for apprpx.  999.00-1100.00 dollars, >  and depends on the cylinder heads you are going to use. They are based on a >  4.030 overbore, but we also have others available. With decent heads and >  cam should be able to make 450 horsepower or more while still running on >  pump gas!!! If you have any other questions just call.">  >  That sounds way too cheap to me, especially since it's supposed to be a new >  block.  Has anyone here ever heard of Coast High Performance, or their >  parent  Probe Racing Components?Hey Mitcho,  Sorry, can't say that I've heard of them, maybe another lister can help out there.  For that price though, its gotta be a short block.  For comparison, check out SpeedOMotive (www.speedomotive.com), they are supposed to be the stroker kings out on the left coast.  I bought my 383 crate from Joe at All Chevy (www.allchevyengines.com).  He builds a good engine.  Maybe someone else has dealt with Coast, but reading their web site, it sounds like they are more into the F*ord stuff.  Good Luck. Here is the link to the specs on my strokerhttp://www.allchevyengines.com/383-400.htm-Kurt EhrhardtACES #128066 Malibu66 SuperSportEnfield, CT-To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.htmlTo start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread Doug



and if you use used stuff that lasts for 10 years 
or more you are way ahead .lol

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  six words to the wise. 
  "you pay for what you get" end of story 
  Larry 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread tom blawkamp

 Where it says-- We have a balanced assembly for 999 - 1100 -- may mean the
pistons, crank and rods assembly only.Tom B.
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From: Brad Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > From: Mitch Barrie
> > Subject: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question
> >
> > I am looking at getting a 383 stroker crate motor for my 66 El Camino.
> I
> > saw these guys in the latest Hot Rod and asked them about this motor:
> >
> >   http://www.coasthigh.com/Crate_Motors/c383_sf.htm
> >
> > Here was their first reply to my query:
> >
> > "We offer a balanced assembly for you for apprpx.  999.00-1100.00
> dollars,
> > and depends on the cylinder heads you are going to use. They are based
> on a
> > 4.030 overbore, but we also have others available. With decent heads
> and
> > cam should be able to make 450 horsepower or more while still running
> on
> > pump gas!!! If you have any other questions just call."
> >
> > That sounds way too cheap to me, especially since it's supposed to be
> a new
> > block.  Has anyone here ever heard of Coast High Performance, or their
>
> > parent  Probe Racing Components?
>
> Mitch,
>
> Where are you now?  If you want, I can stop by the shop for a tour on
> your behalf as it is only a few miles from me.  The name "Coast High
> Performance" seems familiar, but probably because I've driven past them
> or seen them around locally.
>
> I would also verify that you were quoted the price for the long block
> and not the short block.  That price is impossible for the long block
> they specify on that page.  No way do you get a short block plus
> Performer RPM heads and intake, distributor, roller rockers, etc.  If
> that is their price, you can buy them in bulk and sell the parts for
> twice the price if not more!  I paid about $1100 years ago for a short
> block from my local speed shop, and quite a bit more than that for a
> complete engine with forged everything just this month...
>
> Also, be aware that Chevrolet is planning a big sale on performance
> parts, including motors starting October 1st, so you should wait until
> then before making any decision.
>
> A post from the VetteNet list:
>
> "There was a previous thread about the up and coming GMPP parts sale. I
> got
> the low down from my GM buddies, and yes there will be a large sale that
> will
> start this coming October 1. However they were tight lipped about what
> was
> going to be on sale but I was promised to get a price list just before
> it
> starts!
>
> So just to let everyone know, it is coming soon and there will be
> substantial
> savings to be had on a lot of hard parts including engines. That's all
> he
> would tell me."
>
> Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> '66 Corvette | 352/???  | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs
> '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes
>
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Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread 71ElCamino



Speed cost money... How fast do you want to 
go?
Be well!...art

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  Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:46 
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  six words to the wise. 
  "you pay for what you get" end of story 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
six words to the wise. "you pay for what you get" end of story
 Larry (Z)


Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread TRAMARJ
Mitch, My experience is "you get what you pay for". I work for Jasper Engines and we're the forth largest customer of Fed. Mogul only behind the BIG 3 and we can't come close to those dollars. I've looked at alot of crates and I agree, that has to be a short block. If you're interested, you may want to look at Jasperengines.com and look at ours. No sales pitchjust my .02. Good Luck. Remember-the bitterness of poor quality last long after sweetness of a good deal. 

Mark


RE: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread Brad Waller

> From: Mitch Barrie
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question
> 
> I am looking at getting a 383 stroker crate motor for my 66 El Camino.
I 
> saw these guys in the latest Hot Rod and asked them about this motor:
> 
>   http://www.coasthigh.com/Crate_Motors/c383_sf.htm
>
> Here was their first reply to my query:
>
> "We offer a balanced assembly for you for apprpx.  999.00-1100.00
dollars, 
> and depends on the cylinder heads you are going to use. They are based
on a 
> 4.030 overbore, but we also have others available. With decent heads
and 
> cam should be able to make 450 horsepower or more while still running
on 
> pump gas!!! If you have any other questions just call."
>
> That sounds way too cheap to me, especially since it's supposed to be
a new 
> block.  Has anyone here ever heard of Coast High Performance, or their

> parent  Probe Racing Components?

Mitch,

Where are you now?  If you want, I can stop by the shop for a tour on
your behalf as it is only a few miles from me.  The name "Coast High
Performance" seems familiar, but probably because I've driven past them
or seen them around locally.

I would also verify that you were quoted the price for the long block
and not the short block.  That price is impossible for the long block
they specify on that page.  No way do you get a short block plus
Performer RPM heads and intake, distributor, roller rockers, etc.  If
that is their price, you can buy them in bulk and sell the parts for
twice the price if not more!  I paid about $1100 years ago for a short
block from my local speed shop, and quite a bit more than that for a
complete engine with forged everything just this month...

Also, be aware that Chevrolet is planning a big sale on performance
parts, including motors starting October 1st, so you should wait until
then before making any decision.

A post from the VetteNet list:

"There was a previous thread about the up and coming GMPP parts sale. I
got
the low down from my GM buddies, and yes there will be a large sale that
will
start this coming October 1. However they were tight lipped about what
was
going to be on sale but I was promised to get a price list just before
it
starts!

So just to let everyone know, it is coming soon and there will be
substantial
savings to be had on a lot of hard parts including engines. That's all
he
would tell me."

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 352/???  | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs
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Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread KEhrhardt

In a message dated 09/11/2002 4:11:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> "We offer a balanced assembly for you for apprpx.  999.00-1100.00 dollars, 
>  and depends on the cylinder heads you are going to use. They are based on 
a 
>  4.030 overbore, but we also have others available. With decent heads and 
>  cam should be able to make 450 horsepower or more while still running on 
>  pump gas!!! If you have any other questions just call."
>  
>  That sounds way too cheap to me, especially since it's supposed to be a 
new 
>  block.  Has anyone here ever heard of Coast High Performance, or their 
>  parent  Probe Racing Components?

Hey Mitcho,
  Sorry, can't say that I've heard of them, maybe another 
lister can help out there.  For that price though, its gotta be a short 
block.  For comparison, check out SpeedOMotive (www.speedomotive.com), they 
are supposed to be the stroker kings out on the left coast.  I bought my 383 
crate from Joe at All Chevy (www.allchevyengines.com).  He builds a good 
engine.  Maybe someone else has dealt with Coast, but reading their web site, 
it sounds like they are more into the F*ord stuff.  Good Luck. 

Here is the link to the specs on my stroker

http://www.allchevyengines.com/383-400.htm
-
Kurt Ehrhardt
ACES #1280
66 Malibu
66 SuperSport
Enfield, CT

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RE: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread jay116

mitch

This all boils down to what is in a name.
Look at the parts break downs for the different shops.
They all seem to use good quality parts. So do you want 
to spend 3 grand for the name "Edelbrock" or 1100 for an 
engine with an Edelbrock intake on it. 
If the cheaper guys will give a warranty of any kind I 
say buy it and put the other 2 grand into something else 
for the car.

Jason


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RE: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread Mitch Barrie

At 04:55 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, Craig A. Ellis wrote:
 >Shoot, why not go down the the Chevy dealer and order one over the counter?
 >I've heard they are a super deal and come with a GM warranty for a year.

I have already done that before.  Cheapest GM long block is around 
$3,000.  I am wondering if the low price of the Coast High Performance can 
be be justified.


Mitch


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RE: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread Craig A. Ellis

Shoot, why not go down the the Chevy dealer and order one over the counter?
I've heard they are a super deal and come with a GM warranty for a year.
Amazing. Or what about that Edelbrock one in the Summit catalog? 420 HP,
they say, and a reputable company. At least, they sure appear to be.

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At 01:07 PM 09/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I am looking at getting a 383 stroker crate motor for my 66 El Camino.  I 
>saw these guys in the latest Hot Rod and asked them about this motor:
>
>   http://www.coasthigh.com/Crate_Motors/c383_sf.htm
>
>Here was their first reply to my query:
>
>"We offer a balanced assembly for you for apprpx.  999.00-1100.00 dollars, 
>and depends on the cylinder heads you are going to use. They are based on 
>a 4.030 overbore, but we also have others available. With decent heads and 
>cam should be able to make 450 horsepower or more while still running on 
>pump gas!!! If you have any other questions just call."
>
>That sounds way too cheap to me, especially since it's supposed to be a 
>new block.  Has anyone here ever heard of Coast High Performance, or their 
>parent  Probe Racing Components?
>
>
>Mitch

Go here buy a NEW one from GM: http://goautocenter.com/383_small_blk.htm

Or here: http://www.sdpc2000.com/cart.asp?action=catalog_start&catid=120


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Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread Mitch Barrie

At 03:21 PM 9/11/2002 -0500, Dave Corgill wrote:
 >
 >Go here buy a NEW one from GM: http://goautocenter.com/383_small_blk.htm

Thanks.  I am already aware of the GM motors (I have a ZZ4).

This motor is also supposed to be new.

Does the price make sense?


Mitch


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Re: [Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread Dave Corgill

At 01:07 PM 09/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I am looking at getting a 383 stroker crate motor for my 66 El Camino.  I 
>saw these guys in the latest Hot Rod and asked them about this motor:
>
>   http://www.coasthigh.com/Crate_Motors/c383_sf.htm
>
>Here was their first reply to my query:
>
>"We offer a balanced assembly for you for apprpx.  999.00-1100.00 dollars, 
>and depends on the cylinder heads you are going to use. They are based on 
>a 4.030 overbore, but we also have others available. With decent heads and 
>cam should be able to make 450 horsepower or more while still running on 
>pump gas!!! If you have any other questions just call."
>
>That sounds way too cheap to me, especially since it's supposed to be a 
>new block.  Has anyone here ever heard of Coast High Performance, or their 
>parent  Probe Racing Components?
>
>
>Mitch

Go here buy a NEW one from GM: http://goautocenter.com/383_small_blk.htm

Or here: http://www.sdpc2000.com/cart.asp?action=catalog_start&catid=120


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[Chevelle-List] crate motor question

2002-09-11 Thread Mitch Barrie

I am looking at getting a 383 stroker crate motor for my 66 El Camino.  I 
saw these guys in the latest Hot Rod and asked them about this motor:

   http://www.coasthigh.com/Crate_Motors/c383_sf.htm

Here was their first reply to my query:

"We offer a balanced assembly for you for apprpx.  999.00-1100.00 dollars, 
and depends on the cylinder heads you are going to use. They are based on a 
4.030 overbore, but we also have others available. With decent heads and 
cam should be able to make 450 horsepower or more while still running on 
pump gas!!! If you have any other questions just call."

That sounds way too cheap to me, especially since it's supposed to be a new 
block.  Has anyone here ever heard of Coast High Performance, or their 
parent  Probe Racing Components?


Mitch


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