Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
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Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
You have to grind the flanges even with stock heads..
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Larry Williams wrote:
If you have Edelbrock heads and use aftermarket head bolts (ARP) with
the Hooker/Jethot headers on a BB the head bolts hit the header
flanges. I had to grind the flanges and have the headers recoated.
Larry Williams
Larry Shouse wrote:
Mike,
Thanks for your input. Like you, I would just weld them up and keep
going. I enjoy welding anyways. I think I will go ahead and order a
set. To me, fitment and performance gains is the most important
considerations.
Larry
- Original Message -
*From:* Mike Holleman <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* The Chevelle Mailing List <mailto:Chevelle-list@chevelles.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:03 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Larry, For what it's worth, the only set of Sandersons I have
installed were on a Nova small block and they did exactly what you
said. One of the tubes pulled loose at the flange.
I didn't call Sanderson, But just pulled the header and re welded
it. This would not stop me from buying the product. They fit great
and provide excellent clearance.
Mike
- Original Message -
*From:* Larry Shouse <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* The Chevelle Mailing List
<mailto:Chevelle-list@chevelles.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:03 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Dan,
I've always heard Jet Hot's product and service is top notch.
My concerns are with Sanderson's customer service. It's been
several years since those complaints were mentioned. Who
knows, maybe they've corrected any customer service issues by
now.
Larry
- Original Message -
*From:* Dan Mascheck <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
<mailto:Chevelle-list@chevelles.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:06 AM
*Subject:* RE: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
*Surprising! I bought a set of Hookers for my 454 with a
8-71 BDS blower from Jet Hot. I had them coat the headers
and have had no problems. Jet Hot’s service has been great
and they did everything as planned! *
* *
* Dan*
* *
*From:* Larry Shouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2005 10:26 PM
*To:* The Chevelle Mailing List
*Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Clint,
I hear what you're saying. I'm finding it real difficult
to find anything that meets everything I'm looking for
that's affordable. I like what I see with the Sanderson
BB3. I'm just going to move a bit slower before I buy I
think.
Here's a couple of samples of the customer service issues
I've seen. The S10 link is down at the moment, but the
Complaints.com one is working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
<http://www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563>
Larry
- Original Message -
*From:* Clint Hooper <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* The Chevelle Mailing List
<mailto:Chevelle-list@chevelles.net>
*Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2005 10:48 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE
HEADERS
Just curious but where did you read the
complaints,Larry? Not discounting your concerns at all
but is there any header manufacturer that satifies
everyone? If so,please let me know because I'll be
changing headers in the near future. So far,the only
ones I've seen that will give me the best ground
clearance and allow a manual transmission are the
Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot make intermediate
headers that have good ground clearance but won't
allow a manual trans. Some
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
That's true,Trooper,and Hooker will continue to lose market share if they don't get their heads out of the sand. We consumers have more exhaust system options now than we've ever had,,and it's only going to get better. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: "Trooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I agree Clint, But if we are waiting on people like Hooker we may be waiting > a lng time. In 35 years they still haven't listened to there consumers > and made a header to properly fit the big block chevelle. > Trooper > > - Original Message - > From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Let's face it,guys. Lowered cars are here to stay but the aftermarket has > > been slow to build headers to address this,,especially with manual > > transmissions. BB cars are particularly vulnerable because of their larger > > tubes. > > Clint Hooper > > H&H Custom,owner > > 1969 El Camino ProTourer > > 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger > > http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm > > - Original Message - > > From: "Matthew Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >> Larry, > >> For what it's worth, I bought a set of the Sanderson long tube big block > >> headers. Had a clearance problem on the passenger side of all places. > >> It > >> wasn't touching, but far too close to the lower a-arm frame mount. So > >> close that at idle or under torque it would have rubbed the frame. That > >> and the ground clearance was a concern since my Chevelle is lowered. > >> They > >> just hung a little lower than I was comfortable with. > >> > >> I called Sanderson and they were very helpful and said I could send them > >> back for replacement. To improve ground clearance, I am going to > >> exchange > >> them for the intermediates. I think they will charge me a "restocking > >> fee", but at this point I'm not worried about it. I haven't sent them > > back > >> yet, but if you're curious how it all works out, I can let you know. > >> > >> -Matt > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
I agree Clint, But if we are waiting on people like Hooker we may be waiting a lng time. In 35 years they still haven't listened to there consumers and made a header to properly fit the big block chevelle. Trooper - Original Message - From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS Let's face it,guys. Lowered cars are here to stay but the aftermarket has been slow to build headers to address this,,especially with manual transmissions. BB cars are particularly vulnerable because of their larger tubes. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: "Matthew Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Larry, For what it's worth, I bought a set of the Sanderson long tube big block headers. Had a clearance problem on the passenger side of all places. It wasn't touching, but far too close to the lower a-arm frame mount. So close that at idle or under torque it would have rubbed the frame. That and the ground clearance was a concern since my Chevelle is lowered. They just hung a little lower than I was comfortable with. I called Sanderson and they were very helpful and said I could send them back for replacement. To improve ground clearance, I am going to exchange them for the intermediates. I think they will charge me a "restocking fee", but at this point I'm not worried about it. I haven't sent them back yet, but if you're curious how it all works out, I can let you know. -Matt
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
I agree. The only headers I could make fit on my '70 were Hedman 1 and 3/4 tubes but they fit perfect and have stayed in place and tight since Day One. They seem to make nice low-end torque with my 402. I had to re-route the starter wires through some heat shielding but that's to be expected. - Original Message - From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS > Let's face it,guys. Lowered cars are here to stay but the aftermarket has > been slow to build headers to address this,,especially with manual > transmissions. BB cars are particularly vulnerable because of their larger > tubes. > Clint Hooper > H&H Custom,owner > 1969 El Camino ProTourer > 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger > http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm > - Original Message - > From: "Matthew Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Larry, > > For what it's worth, I bought a set of the Sanderson long tube big block > > headers. Had a clearance problem on the passenger side of all places. It > > wasn't touching, but far too close to the lower a-arm frame mount. So > > close that at idle or under torque it would have rubbed the frame. That > > and the ground clearance was a concern since my Chevelle is lowered. They > > just hung a little lower than I was comfortable with. > > > > I called Sanderson and they were very helpful and said I could send them > > back for replacement. To improve ground clearance, I am going to exchange > > them for the intermediates. I think they will charge me a "restocking > > fee", but at this point I'm not worried about it. I haven't sent them > back > > yet, but if you're curious how it all works out, I can let you know. > > > > -Matt > > > > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Let's face it,guys. Lowered cars are here to stay but the aftermarket has been slow to build headers to address this,,especially with manual transmissions. BB cars are particularly vulnerable because of their larger tubes. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: "Matthew Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Larry, > For what it's worth, I bought a set of the Sanderson long tube big block > headers. Had a clearance problem on the passenger side of all places. It > wasn't touching, but far too close to the lower a-arm frame mount. So > close that at idle or under torque it would have rubbed the frame. That > and the ground clearance was a concern since my Chevelle is lowered. They > just hung a little lower than I was comfortable with. > > I called Sanderson and they were very helpful and said I could send them > back for replacement. To improve ground clearance, I am going to exchange > them for the intermediates. I think they will charge me a "restocking > fee", but at this point I'm not worried about it. I haven't sent them back > yet, but if you're curious how it all works out, I can let you know. > > -Matt > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
It's good to hear they are working with you. I found that Century Performance is selling the BB3 for $285. I'm going to give them a call today. Let me know how it turns out for you. You can keep us "Posted", LOL Larry - Original Message - From: "Matthew Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS Larry, For what it's worth, I bought a set of the Sanderson long tube big block headers. Had a clearance problem on the passenger side of all places. It wasn't touching, but far too close to the lower a-arm frame mount. So close that at idle or under torque it would have rubbed the frame. That and the ground clearance was a concern since my Chevelle is lowered. They just hung a little lower than I was comfortable with. I called Sanderson and they were very helpful and said I could send them back for replacement. To improve ground clearance, I am going to exchange them for the intermediates. I think they will charge me a "restocking fee", but at this point I'm not worried about it. I haven't sent them back yet, but if you're curious how it all works out, I can let you know. -Matt
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Larry, For what it's worth, I bought a set of the Sanderson long tube big block headers. Had a clearance problem on the passenger side of all places. It wasn't touching, but far too close to the lower a-arm frame mount. So close that at idle or under torque it would have rubbed the frame. That and the ground clearance was a concern since my Chevelle is lowered. They just hung a little lower than I was comfortable with. I called Sanderson and they were very helpful and said I could send them back for replacement. To improve ground clearance, I am going to exchange them for the intermediates. I think they will charge me a "restocking fee", but at this point I'm not worried about it. I haven't sent them back yet, but if you're curious how it all works out, I can let you know. -Matt
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
If you have Edelbrock heads and use aftermarket head bolts (ARP) with
the Hooker/Jethot headers on a BB the head bolts hit the header flanges.
I had to grind the flanges and have the headers recoated.
Larry Williams
Larry Shouse wrote:
Mike,
Thanks for your input. Like you, I would just weld them up and keep
going. I enjoy welding anyways. I think I will go ahead and order a
set. To me, fitment and performance gains is the most important
considerations.
Larry
- Original Message -
*From:* Mike Holleman <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* The Chevelle Mailing List <mailto:Chevelle-list@chevelles.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:03 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Larry, For what it's worth, the only set of Sandersons I have
installed were on a Nova small block and they did exactly what you
said. One of the tubes pulled loose at the flange.
I didn't call Sanderson, But just pulled the header and re welded
it. This would not stop me from buying the product. They fit great
and provide excellent clearance.
Mike
- Original Message -
*From:* Larry Shouse <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* The Chevelle Mailing List
<mailto:Chevelle-list@chevelles.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:03 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Dan,
I've always heard Jet Hot's product and service is top notch.
My concerns are with Sanderson's customer service. It's been
several years since those complaints were mentioned. Who
knows, maybe they've corrected any customer service issues by now.
Larry
- Original Message -
*From:* Dan Mascheck <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
<mailto:Chevelle-list@chevelles.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:06 AM
*Subject:* RE: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
*Surprising! I bought a set of Hookers for my 454 with a
8-71 BDS blower from Jet Hot. I had them coat the headers
and have had no problems. Jet Hot’s service has been great
and they did everything as planned! *
* *
* Dan*
* *
*From:* Larry Shouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2005 10:26 PM
*To:* The Chevelle Mailing List
*Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Clint,
I hear what you're saying. I'm finding it real difficult
to find anything that meets everything I'm looking for
that's affordable. I like what I see with the Sanderson
BB3. I'm just going to move a bit slower before I buy I think.
Here's a couple of samples of the customer service issues
I've seen. The S10 link is down at the moment, but the
Complaints.com one is working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
<http://www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563>
Larry
- Original Message -
*From:* Clint Hooper <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* The Chevelle Mailing List
<mailto:Chevelle-list@chevelles.net>
*Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2005 10:48 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Just curious but where did you read the
complaints,Larry? Not discounting your concerns at all
but is there any header manufacturer that satifies
everyone? If so,please let me know because I'll be
changing headers in the near future. So far,the only
ones I've seen that will give me the best ground
clearance and allow a manual transmission are the
Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot make intermediate
headers that have good ground clearance but won't
allow a manual trans. Some people swear by Hooker or
Hedman but from my experiences,I'm not impressed at
all. It seems that you really do get what you pay
for,especially when it comes to headers. Having said
that,I may end up buying a pair of Stainless Works
full length units. They cost around $600-700 but
supposedly tuck up under the undercarriage very well.
Clint Hooper
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Mike,
Thanks for your input. Like you, I would just weld
them up and keep going. I enjoy welding anyways. I think I will go ahead and
order a set. To me, fitment and performance gains is the most important
considerations.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Mike
Holleman
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:03
AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
Larry, For what it's worth, the only set of
Sandersons I have installed were on a Nova small block and they did exactly
what you said. One of the tubes pulled loose at the flange.
I didn't call Sanderson, But just pulled the
header and re welded it. This would not stop me from buying the product. They
fit great and provide excellent clearance.
Mike
- Original Message -
From:
Larry
Shouse
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:03
AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
Dan,
I've always heard Jet Hot's product and service
is top notch. My concerns are with Sanderson's customer service. It's been
several years since those complaints were mentioned. Who knows, maybe
they've corrected any customer service issues by now.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Dan
Mascheck
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:06
AM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Surprising!
I bought a set of Hookers for my 454 with a 8-71 BDS blower from Jet Hot.
I had them coat the headers and have had no problems. Jet Hots service
has been great and they did everything as planned!
Dan
From:
Larry Shouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:26
PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Clint,
I hear what
you're saying. I'm finding it real difficult to find anything that meets
everything I'm looking for that's affordable. I like what I see with the
Sanderson BB3. I'm just going to move a bit slower before I buy I
think.
Here's a couple
of samples of the customer service issues I've seen. The S10 link is down
at the moment, but the Complaints.com one is
working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
Larry
- Original
Message -
From: Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday,
October 24, 2005 10:48 PM
Subject: Re:
[Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE
HEADERS
Just curious
but where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not discounting your
concerns at all but is there any header manufacturer that satifies
everyone? If so,please let me know because I'll be changing headers in
the near future. So far,the only ones I've seen that will give me the
best ground clearance and allow a manual transmission are the
Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot make intermediate headers that have good
ground clearance but won't allow a manual trans. Some people swear by
Hooker or Hedman but from my experiences,I'm not impressed at all. It
seems that you really do get what you pay for,especially when it comes
to headers. Having said that,I may end up buying a pair of Stainless
Works full length units. They cost around $600-700 but supposedly tuck
up under the undercarriage very well.
Clint
HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D
FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
-
Original Message -
From: Larry
Shouse
Clint,
I've been
doing some web research on Sanderson headers. I've found several
complaints about their headers cracking where the primaries come out
of the flange, and the alarming part is cases after case, these people
are saying they got the cold shoulder from Sanderson. Not one received
satisfaction.
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Larry, For what it's worth, the only set of
Sandersons I have installed were on a Nova small block and they did exactly what
you said. One of the tubes pulled loose at the flange.
I didn't call Sanderson, But just pulled the
header and re welded it. This would not stop me from buying the product. They
fit great and provide excellent clearance.
Mike
- Original Message -
From:
Larry
Shouse
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:03
AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
Dan,
I've always heard Jet Hot's product and service
is top notch. My concerns are with Sanderson's customer service. It's been
several years since those complaints were mentioned. Who knows, maybe they've
corrected any customer service issues by now.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Dan
Mascheck
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:06
AM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
Surprising!
I bought a set of Hookers for my 454 with a 8-71 BDS blower from Jet Hot. I
had them coat the headers and have had no problems. Jet Hots service has
been great and they did everything as planned!
Dan
From: Larry
Shouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:26
PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
Clint,
I hear what you're
saying. I'm finding it real difficult to find anything that meets everything
I'm looking for that's affordable. I like what I see with the Sanderson BB3.
I'm just going to move a bit slower before I buy I
think.
Here's a couple of
samples of the customer service issues I've seen. The S10 link is down at
the moment, but the Complaints.com one is
working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
Larry
- Original
Message -
From: Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October
24, 2005 10:48 PM
Subject: Re:
[Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE
HEADERS
Just curious but
where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not discounting your concerns at
all but is there any header manufacturer that satifies everyone? If
so,please let me know because I'll be changing headers in the near future.
So far,the only ones I've seen that will give me the best ground clearance
and allow a manual transmission are the Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot
make intermediate headers that have good ground clearance but won't allow
a manual trans. Some people swear by Hooker or Hedman but from my
experiences,I'm not impressed at all. It seems that you really do get what
you pay for,especially when it comes to headers. Having said that,I may
end up buying a pair of Stainless Works full length units. They cost
around $600-700 but supposedly tuck up under the undercarriage very
well.
Clint
HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D
FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original
Message -
From: Larry
Shouse
Clint,
I've been
doing some web research on Sanderson headers. I've found several
complaints about their headers cracking where the primaries come out of
the flange, and the alarming part is cases after case, these people are
saying they got the cold shoulder from Sanderson. Not one received
satisfaction.
Of course I
found many recommendations, including yours, but I read enough negative
stories that I'll consider others first. It's a shame. They seem to have
good products, but service after the sale is an important
consideration.
Larry
-
Original Message -
From: Clint
Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing
List
Sent: Sunday,
October 23, 2005 11:12 PM
Subject: Re:
[Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE
HEADERS
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Dan,
I've always heard Jet Hot's product and service is
top notch. My concerns are with Sanderson's customer service. It's been several
years since those complaints were mentioned. Who knows, maybe they've corrected
any customer service issues by now.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Dan
Mascheck
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:06
AM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
Surprising!
I bought a set of Hookers for my 454 with a 8-71 BDS blower from Jet Hot. I
had them coat the headers and have had no problems. Jet Hots service has been
great and they did everything as planned!
Dan
From: Larry
Shouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:26
PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
Clint,
I hear what you're
saying. I'm finding it real difficult to find anything that meets everything
I'm looking for that's affordable. I like what I see with the Sanderson BB3.
I'm just going to move a bit slower before I buy I
think.
Here's a couple of
samples of the customer service issues I've seen. The S10 link is down at the
moment, but the Complaints.com one is
working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
Larry
- Original
Message -
From: Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October
24, 2005 10:48 PM
Subject: Re:
[Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE
HEADERS
Just curious but
where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not discounting your concerns at
all but is there any header manufacturer that satifies everyone? If
so,please let me know because I'll be changing headers in the near future.
So far,the only ones I've seen that will give me the best ground clearance
and allow a manual transmission are the Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot make
intermediate headers that have good ground clearance but won't allow a
manual trans. Some people swear by Hooker or Hedman but from my
experiences,I'm not impressed at all. It seems that you really do get what
you pay for,especially when it comes to headers. Having said that,I may end
up buying a pair of Stainless Works full length units. They cost around
$600-700 but supposedly tuck up under the undercarriage very
well.
Clint
HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR
custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original
Message -
From: Larry
Shouse
Clint,
I've been doing
some web research on Sanderson headers. I've found several complaints
about their headers cracking where the primaries come out of the flange,
and the alarming part is cases after case, these people are saying they
got the cold shoulder from Sanderson. Not one received
satisfaction.
Of course I
found many recommendations, including yours, but I read enough negative
stories that I'll consider others first. It's a shame. They seem to have
good products, but service after the sale is an important
consideration.
Larry
- Original
Message -
From: Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Sunday,
October 23, 2005 11:12 PM
Subject: Re:
[Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE
HEADERS
Try a pair of
coated Sanderson intermediates for your 65. You'll love
them.
Clint
HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D
FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
RE: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Surprising! I bought a set of Hookers for my 454 with a 8-71 BDS blower from Jet Hot. I had them coat the headers and have had no problems. Jet Hot’s service has been great and they did everything as planned! Dan From: Larry Shouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:26 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS Clint, I hear what you're saying. I'm finding it real difficult to find anything that meets everything I'm looking for that's affordable. I like what I see with the Sanderson BB3. I'm just going to move a bit slower before I buy I think. Here's a couple of samples of the customer service issues I've seen. The S10 link is down at the moment, but the Complaints.com one is working... http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563 Larry - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS Just curious but where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not discounting your concerns at all but is there any header manufacturer that satifies everyone? If so,please let me know because I'll be changing headers in the near future. So far,the only ones I've seen that will give me the best ground clearance and allow a manual transmission are the Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot make intermediate headers that have good ground clearance but won't allow a manual trans. Some people swear by Hooker or Hedman but from my experiences,I'm not impressed at all. It seems that you really do get what you pay for,especially when it comes to headers. Having said that,I may end up buying a pair of Stainless Works full length units. They cost around $600-700 but supposedly tuck up under the undercarriage very well. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse Clint, I've been doing some web research on Sanderson headers. I've found several complaints about their headers cracking where the primaries come out of the flange, and the alarming part is cases after case, these people are saying they got the cold shoulder from Sanderson. Not one received satisfaction. Of course I found many recommendations, including yours, but I read enough negative stories that I'll consider others first. It's a shame. They seem to have good products, but service after the sale is an important consideration. Larry - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS Try a pair of coated Sanderson intermediates for your 65. You'll love them. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Thanks Clint. I see what the issue is now.
- Original Message -
From: Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 11:03
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
They don't effect the break-in of an engine much
but engine break-in can effect the header coating,due to the engine being
run up at a standstill during camshaft break-in. The higher temps can gray the
coating.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Ron
Malespin
This is an honest understanding question. How could coated
headers affect the break in of an engine? The only thing the engine
cares about is exhaust back pressure. IE, number of bends
and length of pipe run. I am trying to understand this. The
only thing the exhaust valves know is back pressure. Outlet
temperature is irrelevant.
- Original Message -
From: Larry Shouse
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:54
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
I'm thinking I'll buy the Sanderson. Many of the sites mention not to
break in an engine with coated headers, so I'm thinking getting the
painted Sanderson's, breaking the engine in, then taking them off and
shipping them off to Jet Hot for the Sterling coating. Any idea what that
coating will set me back? I have a quote request in with Jet Hot but
haven't heard anything yet..
As always, thanks for your help Clint.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint
Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005
11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
I installed a pair of the QP1000 headers on my 40 Ford coupe
streetrod back in 1992 and had a lot of problems getting them to seal at
the cylinder head. Those headers are an iron casting similar to
stock exhaust manifolds,not tube headers. I never even talked to
Sanderson but finally found a gasket set-up that cured the problem.
However,I installed a pair of their intermediate 1 7/8" BB tube headers
on my 68 El Camino w/468" and loved them. My 69 El Camino is really low
so the header clearance really needs to be taken into consideration.
Like I mentioned before,I'd try the Patriot or Hedman intermediates but
they won't clear the Z-bar. Hooker and most other full-length headers
hang down way too much so they're not an option,either.
Good luck in your search,Larry. Let us know what you decide
on.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry Shouse
Clint,
I hear what you're saying. I'm finding it real difficult to find
anything that meets everything I'm looking for that's affordable. I
like what I see with the Sanderson BB3. I'm just going to move a bit
slower before I buy I think.
Here's a couple of samples of the customer service issues I've
seen. The S10 link is down at the moment, but the Complaints.com one
is working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing
List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005
10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list]
BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Just curious but where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not
discounting your concerns at all but is there any header
manufacturer that satifies everyone? If so,please let me know
because I'll be changing headers in the near future. So far,the only
ones I've seen that will give me the best ground clearance and allow
a manual transmission are the Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot make
intermediate headers that have good ground clearance but won't allow
a manual trans. Some people swear by Hooker or Hedman but from my
exper
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
They don't effect the break-in of an engine much
but engine break-in can effect the header coating,due to the engine being
run up at a standstill during camshaft break-in. The higher temps can gray the
coating.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Ron Malespin
This is an honest understanding question. How could coated headers
affect the break in of an engine? The only thing the engine cares about
is exhaust back pressure. IE, number of bends and length of pipe
run. I am trying to understand this. The only thing
the exhaust valves know is back pressure. Outlet temperature is
irrelevant.
- Original Message -
From: Larry
Shouse
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:54
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
I'm thinking I'll buy the Sanderson. Many of the sites mention not to
break in an engine with coated headers, so I'm thinking getting the painted
Sanderson's, breaking the engine in, then taking them off and shipping them
off to Jet Hot for the Sterling coating. Any idea what that coating will set
me back? I have a quote request in with Jet Hot but haven't heard anything
yet..
As always, thanks for your help Clint.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint
Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 11:45
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
I installed a pair of the QP1000 headers on my 40 Ford coupe
streetrod back in 1992 and had a lot of problems getting them to seal at
the cylinder head. Those headers are an iron casting similar to stock
exhaust manifolds,not tube headers. I never even talked to Sanderson but
finally found a gasket set-up that cured the problem. However,I
installed a pair of their intermediate 1 7/8" BB tube headers on my 68 El
Camino w/468" and loved them. My 69 El Camino is really low so the header
clearance really needs to be taken into consideration. Like I mentioned
before,I'd try the Patriot or Hedman intermediates but they won't clear
the Z-bar. Hooker and most other full-length headers hang down way too
much so they're not an option,either.
Good luck in your search,Larry. Let us know what you decide on.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry Shouse
Clint,
I hear what you're saying. I'm finding it real difficult to find
anything that meets everything I'm looking for that's affordable. I like
what I see with the Sanderson BB3. I'm just going to move a bit slower
before I buy I think.
Here's a couple of samples of the customer service issues I've
seen. The S10 link is down at the moment, but the Complaints.com one is
working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing
List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005
10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Just curious but where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not
discounting your concerns at all but is there any header manufacturer
that satifies everyone? If so,please let me know because I'll be
changing headers in the near future. So far,the only ones I've seen
that will give me the best ground clearance and allow a manual
transmission are the Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot make intermediate
headers that have good ground clearance but won't allow a manual
trans. Some people swear by Hooker or Hedman but from my
experiences,I'm not impressed at all. It seems that you really do get
what you pay for,especially when it comes to headers. Having said
that,I may end up buying a pair of Stainless Works full length units.
They cost around $600-700 but supposedly tuck up under the
undercarriage very well.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp:
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
This is an honest understanding question. How could coated headers
affect the break in of an engine? The only thing the engine cares about is
exhaust back pressure. IE, number of bends and length of pipe
run. I am trying to understand this. The only thing the exhaust
valves know is back pressure. Outlet temperature is irrelevant.
- Original Message -
From: Larry
Shouse
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:54
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
I'm thinking I'll buy the Sanderson. Many of the sites mention not to
break in an engine with coated headers, so I'm thinking getting the painted
Sanderson's, breaking the engine in, then taking them off and shipping them
off to Jet Hot for the Sterling coating. Any idea what that coating will set
me back? I have a quote request in with Jet Hot but haven't heard anything
yet..
As always, thanks for your help Clint.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint
Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 11:45
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
I installed a pair of the QP1000 headers on my 40 Ford coupe streetrod
back in 1992 and had a lot of problems getting them to seal at the cylinder
head. Those headers are an iron casting similar to stock exhaust
manifolds,not tube headers. I never even talked to Sanderson but
finally found a gasket set-up that cured the problem. However,I
installed a pair of their intermediate 1 7/8" BB tube headers on my 68 El
Camino w/468" and loved them. My 69 El Camino is really low so the header
clearance really needs to be taken into consideration. Like I mentioned
before,I'd try the Patriot or Hedman intermediates but they won't clear the
Z-bar. Hooker and most other full-length headers hang down way too much so
they're not an option,either.
Good luck in your search,Larry. Let us know what you decide on.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry Shouse
Clint,
I hear what you're saying. I'm finding it real difficult to find
anything that meets everything I'm looking for that's affordable. I like
what I see with the Sanderson BB3. I'm just going to move a bit slower
before I buy I think.
Here's a couple of samples of the customer service issues I've seen.
The S10 link is down at the moment, but the Complaints.com one is
working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint
Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005
10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Just curious but where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not
discounting your concerns at all but is there any header manufacturer
that satifies everyone? If so,please let me know because I'll be
changing headers in the near future. So far,the only ones I've seen that
will give me the best ground clearance and allow a manual transmission
are the Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot make intermediate headers that
have good ground clearance but won't allow a manual trans. Some people
swear by Hooker or Hedman but from my experiences,I'm not impressed at
all. It seems that you really do get what you pay for,especially when it
comes to headers. Having said that,I may end up buying a pair of
Stainless Works full length units. They cost around $600-700 but
supposedly tuck up under the undercarriage very well.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry Shouse
Clint,
I've been doing some web research on Sanderson headers. I've
found several complaints about their headers cracking where the
primaries come out of the flange, and the alarming part is cases after
case, these people are saying they got the cold shoulder from
Sanderson. Not one received satisfaction.
Of course I found many recommendations, including yours, but I
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Will your Chevelle be lowered? If not,your header options increase
considerably.
I never buy headers coated,only bare. That way I can correct or rework any
flaws,first. All my coating work is done by Performance Coatings of Oklahoma
City. They normally charge me around $125-150 to coat my headers and their work
is first class. Customer service is outstanding,too. Phone number is (405)
525-9790 and ask for Chuck Simpson. He's the owner and a good friend.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry
Shouse
I'm thinking I'll buy the Sanderson. Many of the sites mention not to
break in an engine with coated headers, so I'm thinking getting the painted
Sanderson's, breaking the engine in, then taking them off and shipping them
off to Jet Hot for the Sterling coating. Any idea what that coating will set
me back? I have a quote request in with Jet Hot but haven't heard anything
yet..
As always, thanks for your help Clint.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 11:45
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
I installed a pair of the QP1000 headers on my 40 Ford coupe streetrod
back in 1992 and had a lot of problems getting them to seal at the cylinder
head. Those headers are an iron casting similar to stock exhaust
manifolds,not tube headers. I never even talked to Sanderson but
finally found a gasket set-up that cured the problem. However,I
installed a pair of their intermediate 1 7/8" BB tube headers on my 68 El
Camino w/468" and loved them. My 69 El Camino is really low so the header
clearance really needs to be taken into consideration. Like I mentioned
before,I'd try the Patriot or Hedman intermediates but they won't clear the
Z-bar. Hooker and most other full-length headers hang down way too much so
they're not an option,either.
Good luck in your search,Larry. Let us know what you decide on.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry
Shouse
Clint,
I hear what you're saying. I'm finding it real difficult to find
anything that meets everything I'm looking for that's affordable. I like
what I see with the Sanderson BB3. I'm just going to move a bit slower
before I buy I think.
Here's a couple of samples of the customer service issues I've seen.
The S10 link is down at the moment, but the Complaints.com one is
working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint
Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005
10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Just curious but where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not
discounting your concerns at all but is there any header manufacturer
that satifies everyone? If so,please let me know because I'll be
changing headers in the near future. So far,the only ones I've seen that
will give me the best ground clearance and allow a manual transmission
are the Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot make intermediate headers that
have good ground clearance but won't allow a manual trans. Some people
swear by Hooker or Hedman but from my experiences,I'm not impressed at
all. It seems that you really do get what you pay for,especially when it
comes to headers. Having said that,I may end up buying a pair of
Stainless Works full length units. They cost around $600-700 but
supposedly tuck up under the undercarriage very well.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry Shouse
Clint,
I've been doing some web research on Sanderson headers. I've
found several complaints about their headers cracking where the
primaries come out of the flange, and the alarming part is cases after
case, these people are saying they got the cold shoulder from
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
I'm thinking I'll buy the Sanderson. Many of the sites mention not to break
in an engine with coated headers, so I'm thinking getting the painted
Sanderson's, breaking the engine in, then taking them off and shipping them off
to Jet Hot for the Sterling coating. Any idea what that coating will set me
back? I have a quote request in with Jet Hot but haven't heard anything
yet..
As always, thanks for your help Clint.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 11:45
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
I installed a pair of the QP1000 headers on my 40 Ford coupe streetrod
back in 1992 and had a lot of problems getting them to seal at the cylinder
head. Those headers are an iron casting similar to stock exhaust
manifolds,not tube headers. I never even talked to Sanderson but
finally found a gasket set-up that cured the problem. However,I installed
a pair of their intermediate 1 7/8" BB tube headers on my 68 El Camino w/468"
and loved them. My 69 El Camino is really low so the header clearance really
needs to be taken into consideration. Like I mentioned before,I'd try the
Patriot or Hedman intermediates but they won't clear the Z-bar. Hooker and
most other full-length headers hang down way too much so they're not an
option,either.
Good luck in your search,Larry. Let us know what you decide on.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry
Shouse
Clint,
I hear what you're saying. I'm finding it real difficult to find
anything that meets everything I'm looking for that's affordable. I like
what I see with the Sanderson BB3. I'm just going to move a bit slower
before I buy I think.
Here's a couple of samples of the customer service issues I've seen.
The S10 link is down at the moment, but the Complaints.com one is
working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint
Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:48
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Just curious but where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not
discounting your concerns at all but is there any header manufacturer that
satifies everyone? If so,please let me know because I'll be changing
headers in the near future. So far,the only ones I've seen that will give
me the best ground clearance and allow a manual transmission are the
Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot make intermediate headers that have good
ground clearance but won't allow a manual trans. Some people swear by
Hooker or Hedman but from my experiences,I'm not impressed at all. It
seems that you really do get what you pay for,especially when it comes to
headers. Having said that,I may end up buying a pair of Stainless Works
full length units. They cost around $600-700 but supposedly tuck up under
the undercarriage very well.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry
Shouse
Clint,
I've been doing some web research on Sanderson headers. I've found
several complaints about their headers cracking where the primaries come
out of the flange, and the alarming part is cases after case, these
people are saying they got the cold shoulder from Sanderson. Not one
received satisfaction.
Of course I found many recommendations, including yours, but I read
enough negative stories that I'll consider others first. It's a shame.
They seem to have good products, but service after the sale is an
important consideration.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint
Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing
List
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005
11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Try a pair of coated Sanderson intermediates for your 65. You'll
love them.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
I installed a pair of the QP1000 headers on my 40 Ford coupe streetrod back
in 1992 and had a lot of problems getting them to seal at the cylinder head.
Those headers are an iron casting similar to stock exhaust manifolds,not
tube headers. I never even talked to Sanderson but finally found a gasket
set-up that cured the problem. However,I installed a pair of their intermediate
1 7/8" BB tube headers on my 68 El Camino w/468" and loved them. My 69 El Camino
is really low so the header clearance really needs to be taken into
consideration. Like I mentioned before,I'd try the Patriot or Hedman
intermediates but they won't clear the Z-bar. Hooker and most other full-length
headers hang down way too much so they're not an option,either.
Good luck in your search,Larry. Let us know what you decide on.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry
Shouse
Clint,
I hear what you're saying. I'm finding it real difficult to find anything
that meets everything I'm looking for that's affordable. I like what I see
with the Sanderson BB3. I'm just going to move a bit slower before I buy I
think.
Here's a couple of samples of the customer service issues I've seen. The
S10 link is down at the moment, but the Complaints.com one is working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:48
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
Just curious but where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not
discounting your concerns at all but is there any header manufacturer that
satifies everyone? If so,please let me know because I'll be changing headers
in the near future. So far,the only ones I've seen that will give me the
best ground clearance and allow a manual transmission are the Sandersons.
Hedman and Patriot make intermediate headers that have good ground clearance
but won't allow a manual trans. Some people swear by Hooker or Hedman but
from my experiences,I'm not impressed at all. It seems that you really do
get what you pay for,especially when it comes to headers. Having said that,I
may end up buying a pair of Stainless Works full length units. They cost
around $600-700 but supposedly tuck up under the undercarriage very
well.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry
Shouse
Clint,
I've been doing some web research on Sanderson headers. I've found
several complaints about their headers cracking where the primaries come
out of the flange, and the alarming part is cases after case, these people
are saying they got the cold shoulder from Sanderson. Not one received
satisfaction.
Of course I found many recommendations, including yours, but I read
enough negative stories that I'll consider others first. It's a shame.
They seem to have good products, but service after the sale is an
important consideration.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint
Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005
11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Try a pair of coated Sanderson intermediates for your 65. You'll
love them.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Clint,
I hear what you're saying. I'm finding it real difficult to find anything
that meets everything I'm looking for that's affordable. I like what I see with
the Sanderson BB3. I'm just going to move a bit slower before I buy I
think.
Here's a couple of samples of the customer service issues I've seen. The
S10 link is down at the moment, but the Complaints.com one is working...
http://www.complaints.com/september2002/complaintoftheday.september30.16.htm
www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2563
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:48
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK
CHEVELLE HEADERS
Just curious but where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not discounting
your concerns at all but is there any header manufacturer that satifies
everyone? If so,please let me know because I'll be changing headers in the
near future. So far,the only ones I've seen that will give me the best ground
clearance and allow a manual transmission are the Sandersons. Hedman and
Patriot make intermediate headers that have good ground clearance but won't
allow a manual trans. Some people swear by Hooker or Hedman but from my
experiences,I'm not impressed at all. It seems that you really do get what you
pay for,especially when it comes to headers. Having said that,I may end up
buying a pair of Stainless Works full length units. They cost around $600-700
but supposedly tuck up under the undercarriage very well.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Larry
Shouse
Clint,
I've been doing some web research on Sanderson headers. I've found
several complaints about their headers cracking where the primaries come out
of the flange, and the alarming part is cases after case, these people are
saying they got the cold shoulder from Sanderson. Not one received
satisfaction.
Of course I found many recommendations, including yours, but I read
enough negative stories that I'll consider others first. It's a shame. They
seem to have good products, but service after the sale is an important
consideration.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint
Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:12
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG
BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Try a pair of coated Sanderson intermediates for your 65. You'll love
them.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Just curious but where did you read the complaints,Larry? Not discounting your concerns at all but is there any header manufacturer that satifies everyone? If so,please let me know because I'll be changing headers in the near future. So far,the only ones I've seen that will give me the best ground clearance and allow a manual transmission are the Sandersons. Hedman and Patriot make intermediate headers that have good ground clearance but won't allow a manual trans. Some people swear by Hooker or Hedman but from my experiences,I'm not impressed at all. It seems that you really do get what you pay for,especially when it comes to headers. Having said that,I may end up buying a pair of Stainless Works full length units. They cost around $600-700 but supposedly tuck up under the undercarriage very well. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse Clint, I've been doing some web research on Sanderson headers. I've found several complaints about their headers cracking where the primaries come out of the flange, and the alarming part is cases after case, these people are saying they got the cold shoulder from Sanderson. Not one received satisfaction. Of course I found many recommendations, including yours, but I read enough negative stories that I'll consider others first. It's a shame. They seem to have good products, but service after the sale is an important consideration. Larry - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS Try a pair of coated Sanderson intermediates for your 65. You'll love them. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Clint, I've been doing some web research on Sanderson headers. I've found several complaints about their headers cracking where the primaries come out of the flange, and the alarming part is cases after case, these people are saying they got the cold shoulder from Sanderson. Not one received satisfaction. Of course I found many recommendations, including yours, but I read enough negative stories that I'll consider others first. It's a shame. They seem to have good products, but service after the sale is an important consideration. Larry - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS Try a pair of coated Sanderson intermediates for your 65. You'll love them. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Thanks for the suggestion Clint. I was looking at their website today. Having an experienced list member recommend them makes a difference. I'll look again. Larry - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS Try a pair of coated Sanderson intermediates for your 65. You'll love them. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Try a pair of coated Sanderson intermediates for your 65. You'll love them. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
The jet hots are coated hookers. They furnished the headers to jet hot. Photos on the photo page at http://www.larrywilliamsstuff.20m.com I can't remember the price but is was 500 + Larry Larry Shouse wrote: Larry, You mean you bought the Jet Hot brand headers? If so, do you have any pictures on the web, and how is their price compared to say Hookers or Hedmans with their coating? Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: "Larry Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS Look at coated headers or Stainless. I bought Jet Hot and am very happy 1 3/4" size. Be careful not to scratch during installation. Larry Williams 65 SS 427 BB Larry Shouse wrote: Thanks, but it won't fit my 66... Larry - Original Message - *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* chevelle-list@chevelles.net <mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net> *Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:22 AM *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS NEW IN BOX HEDMAN BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS - Free Racing Classifieds Powered By RacingJunk.com <http://racingjunk.com/exec/ca/view/513973/NEW-IN-BOX-HEDMAN-BIG-BLOCK-CHEVELLE-HEADERS.html>
Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Larry, You mean you bought the Jet Hot brand headers? If so, do you have any
pictures on the web, and how is their price compared to say Hookers or
Hedmans with their coating?
Thanks,
Larry
- Original Message -
From: "Larry Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List"
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Look at coated headers or Stainless. I bought Jet Hot and am very happy 1
3/4" size. Be careful not to scratch during installation.
Larry Williams
65 SS 427 BB
Larry Shouse wrote:
Thanks, but it won't fit my 66...
Larry
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Re: [Chevelle-list] BIG BLOCK CHEVELLE HEADERS
Look at coated headers or Stainless. I bought Jet Hot and am very happy
1 3/4" size. Be careful not to scratch during installation.
Larry Williams
65 SS 427 BB
Larry Shouse wrote:
Thanks, but it won't fit my 66...
Larry
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