Re: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice?
I'm not familiar with what Edelbrock advertises their cams as. I was looking at the specs on the two cams relative to each other. The cam you picked has more lift (0.560 int./0.573 exh.) and duration @ .050 (240 int./246 exh.) as well as a smaller (112) lobe separation angle. The cam I suggested has less lift (0.527 int./0.553 exh.) and duration @ .050 (224 int./232 exh.) and a wider (114) lobe separation angle. The wider LSA would give you more manifold vacuum to power things like power brakes and AC vacuum operated servos. All these factors would make the cam I suggested milder, or more street friendly, than your first choice. Like I said before; either cam would work, it all depends on what you want out of the car. Neither cam is a "radical" cam by any stretch of the imagination but another thing you have to consider is cubic inches. A 402 is a small big block. A larger engine (454 or larger) absorbs some of the "personality" of a larger cam simply because it moves more air. What is lumpy in a 454 is much more so in a 402. There are other cams available too. I just stayed within the Edelbrock line to keep things simple. Cam choice is probably the single most confusing aspect of engine building. I wasn't intentionally trying to confuse the issue with you but that is just what seems to happen when you are trying to make the correct cam choice. Bill Vander Werf - Original Message - From: Pelle Andersson To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice? But isn't the Torker cam supposed to be Edelbrocks "lumpiest" cam!!?? //Pelle - Original Message - From: Bill Vander Werf To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice? Although I think your cam choice would work, I believe it's at the far end of what I would put in a daily driver street car. It really depends on what you want. Do you want a car to show off? Is a lumpy idle is more important than practicality? If that's what you want, then I think it's a good choice. Do you want more practicality and drivability? I can only imagine what you pay for gas where you are. Let's face it, a big block isn't going to get very good gas mileage by today's standards anyway, but is economy important to you? If it is, go a little smaller. If you are building a daily driver then my philosophy is this; less is more when it comes to cams. A lumpy idle is cool but a smaller cam will give you more power where you can use it...in the lower to mid-range. Even in drag racing less can be more. I have a 3600 pound 71 that runs 11.50s with a Crane 224/236 @ .050 hydraulic roller in a 461 (.030 over 454). Most people don't believe that's all the cam I have in it. I think it works as good as it does because it gives me the bottom end power to get a heavy car moving. Staying within the Edelbrock line, I would recommend this cam for your application: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D5062&autoview=sku Bill Vander Werf - Original Message - From: Pelle Andersson To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice? Hi! What do you guys think about putting a edelbrock 7162 cam in my 402? Stock heads, 800cfm holley, performer rpm intake, hooker pro comp headers Mallory Hei. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D7162&autoview=sku Please comment!
Re: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice?
But isn't the Torker cam supposed to be Edelbrocks "lumpiest" cam!!?? //Pelle - Original Message - From: Bill Vander Werf To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice? Although I think your cam choice would work, I believe it's at the far end of what I would put in a daily driver street car. It really depends on what you want. Do you want a car to show off? Is a lumpy idle is more important than practicality? If that's what you want, then I think it's a good choice. Do you want more practicality and drivability? I can only imagine what you pay for gas where you are. Let's face it, a big block isn't going to get very good gas mileage by today's standards anyway, but is economy important to you? If it is, go a little smaller. If you are building a daily driver then my philosophy is this; less is more when it comes to cams. A lumpy idle is cool but a smaller cam will give you more power where you can use it...in the lower to mid-range. Even in drag racing less can be more. I have a 3600 pound 71 that runs 11.50s with a Crane 224/236 @ .050 hydraulic roller in a 461 (.030 over 454). Most people don't believe that's all the cam I have in it. I think it works as good as it does because it gives me the bottom end power to get a heavy car moving. Staying within the Edelbrock line, I would recommend this cam for your application: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D5062&autoview=sku Bill Vander Werf - Original Message - From: Pelle Andersson To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice? Hi! What do you guys think about putting a edelbrock 7162 cam in my 402? Stock heads, 800cfm holley, performer rpm intake, hooker pro comp headers Mallory Hei. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D7162&autoview=sku Please comment! Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger
Re: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice?
Now just me speaking, but its not a daily driver I love the wicked cam in my Monte. Yeah I have to idle it up in traffic to keep it from stalling from time to time, and it probably doesn't help my gas mileage, but when you stomp the loud pedal it is music to my ears, as a guy said to me one day when I was cruising to the local burger stand, thats what they are supposed to sound like!! Josh Campbell 66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part with it) 66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel) 87 Monte Carlo SS (The modern Chevelle especially when you add the right stuff) 71 Malibu (Something new to blow my money on) - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice?
I had a "stock" grind solid lifter cam in my 425HP/427 but I had to use a factory 3000rpm stall converter in order for the thing to idle with the TH in gear. Ed Riggins HSP, Inc. On Fri Feb 8 7:15 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I can attest to that. My BBC flattened the cam, so I put in a new, bigger cam. It was cool...lumpy idle, and when you got on it, it sounded mean as hell. Its basically a stock 454. Unless it was completely warm, the darn thing wouldnt idle. I remember the day I had enough. I was coming home from work, uphill on a long street, in traffic. I had to move 10 ft, take out of gear, left foot on brake, right foot on gas just to keep it idling. I said screw that, and put a cam from a stock 502 in it. It lost some top end power for sure, but I think bottom end it gained a little bit. And you cant beat the fact it just purrs like a kitten now. Just food for thought. -Original Message- From: Bill Vander Werf To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 4:49 am Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice? Although I think your cam choice would work, I believe it's at the far end of what I would put in a daily driver street car. It really depends on what you want. Do you want a car to show off? Is a lumpy idle is more important than practicality? If that's what you want, then I think it's a good choice. Do you want more practicality and drivability? I can only imagine what you pay for gas where you are. Let's face it, a big block isn't going to get very good gas mileage by today's standards anyway, but is economy important to you? If it is, go a little smaller. If you are building a daily driver then my philosophy is this; less is more when it comes to cams. A lumpy idle is cool but a smaller cam will give you more power where you can use it...in the lower to mid-range. Even in drag racing less can be more. I have a 3600 pound 71 that runs 11.50s with a Crane 224/236 @ .050 hydraulic roller in a 461 (.030 over 454). Most people don't believe that's all the cam I have in it. I think it works as good as it does because it gives me the bottom end power to get a heavy car moving. Staying within the Edelbrock line, I would recommend this cam for your application: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D5062&autoview=sku Bill Vander Werf - Original Message -From: Pelle AnderssonTo: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice? Hi! What do you guys think about putting a edelbrock 7162 cam in my 402? Stock heads, 800cfm holley, performer rpm intake, hooker pro comp headers Mallory Hei. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D7162&autoview=sku Please comment! Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN MessengerMore new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail!
Re: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice?
I can attest to that. My BBC flattened the cam, so I put in a new, bigger cam. It was cool...lumpy idle, and when you got on it, it sounded mean as hell. Its basically a stock 454. Unless it was completely warm, the darn thing wouldnt idle. I remember the day I had enough. I was coming home from work, uphill on a long street, in traffic. I had to move 10 ft, take out of gear, left foot on brake, right foot on gas just to keep it idling. I said screw that, and put a cam from a stock 502 in it. It lost some top end power for sure, but I think bottom end it gained a little bit. And you cant beat the fact it just purrs like a kitten now. Just food for thought. -Original Message- From: Bill Vander Werf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 4:49 am Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice? Although I think your cam choice would work, I believe it's at the far end of what I would put in a daily driver street car. ? It really depends on what you want. Do you want a car to show off??Is a?lumpy idle is more important than practicality? If that's what you want, then I think it's a good choice. ? Do you want more practicality and drivability? I can only imagine what you pay for gas where you are. Let's face it, a big block isn't going to get very good gas mileage by today's standards anyway, but is economy important to you? If it is, go a little smaller. ? If you are building a daily driver then my philosophy is this; less is more when it comes to cams. A lumpy idle is cool but a smaller cam will give you more power where you can use it...in the lower to mid-range. ? Even in drag racing less can be more. I have a 3600 pound 71 that runs 11.50s with a Crane 224/236 @ .050 hydraulic roller in a 461 (.030 over 454). Most people don't believe that's all the cam I have in it. I think it works as good as it does because it gives me the bottom end power to get a heavy car moving. ? Staying within the Edelbrock line, I would recommend this cam for your application: ? http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D5062&autoview=sku ? Bill Vander Werf ? - Original Message - From: Pelle Andersson To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice? Hi! What do you guys think about putting a edelbrock 7162 cam in my 402? Stock heads, 800cfm holley, performer rpm intake, hooker pro comp headers Mallory Hei. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D7162&autoview=sku Please comment! Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice?
Although I think your cam choice would work, I believe it's at the far end of what I would put in a daily driver street car. It really depends on what you want. Do you want a car to show off? Is a lumpy idle is more important than practicality? If that's what you want, then I think it's a good choice. Do you want more practicality and drivability? I can only imagine what you pay for gas where you are. Let's face it, a big block isn't going to get very good gas mileage by today's standards anyway, but is economy important to you? If it is, go a little smaller. If you are building a daily driver then my philosophy is this; less is more when it comes to cams. A lumpy idle is cool but a smaller cam will give you more power where you can use it...in the lower to mid-range. Even in drag racing less can be more. I have a 3600 pound 71 that runs 11.50s with a Crane 224/236 @ .050 hydraulic roller in a 461 (.030 over 454). Most people don't believe that's all the cam I have in it. I think it works as good as it does because it gives me the bottom end power to get a heavy car moving. Staying within the Edelbrock line, I would recommend this cam for your application: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D5062&autoview=sku Bill Vander Werf - Original Message - From: Pelle Andersson To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Cam choice? Hi! What do you guys think about putting a edelbrock 7162 cam in my 402? Stock heads, 800cfm holley, performer rpm intake, hooker pro comp headers Mallory Hei. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D7162&autoview=sku Please comment! -- Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger
[Chevelle-list] Cam choice?
Hi! What do you guys think about putting a edelbrock 7162 cam in my 402? Stock heads, 800cfm holley, performer rpm intake, hooker pro comp headers Mallory Hei. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D7162&autoview=sku Please comment! _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Chevelle-list] cam choice
Can you guys recomend a cam for me? I have a 69ss automatic with stock heads. It appears to have the stock springs and also has the closed chamber heads. I'd also like to thank you guys for answering all my other questions. Mark
