Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains and 427?

2004-07-17 Thread Danny Wilsher
Thanks Steve, Ed and Clint for your input. I remember a f*rd person telling
me he thought it was a 312 also around 20 years ago but I had forgotten till
you guys reminded me of this. The knowledge on this list is incredible and
the type of people I enjoy being with. Again thanks,
   Ã ..
Wilsher Motor Sports
ps. I used some por 15 today and I see why every one likes it. And why they
say don't get it on you. Good stuff!!!
- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Monjar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chevelle List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains and 427?


I'm no F*rd authority, but a friend of mine in college (about 1963) had a
'57 Fairlane 4-dr HT with dual quads.  I'm pretty sure, however, that the
engine was a 312. A 352 appeared in 1958.

I don't think F*rd had a 427 until the early '60s.

But then, only a F*rd-lover would know for sure...

Steve

On 7/14/04 2:06 PM, "Danny Wilsher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I remember my mom used these same springs to put curtains in a 57 ford
> wagon that dad bought brand new. We all thought it was pretty neat
looking.
> They were kinda like screen door springs but smaller diameter.
> This reminds me of something. I know we all hate fords here, but do
any
> of you have any idea if a 427 ford motor was produced in 57. This wagon
that
> my dad had came from the factory with what he said was a 427 and it had
two
> four barrels on it. He said he was contacted by the factory to bring the
car
> back and they would give him a new motor because they wanted this one
back.
> It wasn't supposed to be put in a car much less a station wagon. They said
> it was a experimental design that somehow showed up in that old wagon. He
> loved the way it ran, so he kept it. I was just curious if any one here
had
> any recollections of them days. I wasn't but 3 years old when it was new,
> but remember growing up riding in it. I was 14 or 15 when he finally sold
> it. Thanks for indulging me. Hope I don't make to many people mad at
> me... Wish I still had that old clunker...
>Ã ..
> Wilsher Motor Sports






Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains

2004-07-14 Thread Richard M. Pruett
Sounds like the springs I used to see on old wooden screen doors. Maybe
check with a good hardware store.

Rich

On 7/14/2004 8:00:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dennis, The springs were maybe 1/4" in diameter and maybe 24" long. I
> think
> they were made for this purpose. They had small loops in the ends
> thru which
> we put screws that mounted them. Look in marine specific catalogs/sites
> and
> you will find something that will fill your need. One company that
> makes
> these types of items is Taylor Made. Heavy monofiliment with barrel
> swivels
> connected at each end would do the job.
> Mike
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Kiernan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains
>
>
> >
> >
> > Mike Holleman wrote:
> > >
> > > I was a sixties flower child with a 62 Biscayne wagon. My girlfriend
> made





Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains

2004-07-14 Thread Mike Holleman
Dennis, The springs were maybe 1/4" in diameter and maybe 24" long. I think
they were made for this purpose. They had small loops in the ends thru which
we put screws that mounted them. Look in marine specific catalogs/sites and
you will find something that will fill your need. One company that makes
these types of items is Taylor Made. Heavy monofiliment with barrel swivels
connected at each end would do the job.
Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Kiernan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains


>
>
> Mike Holleman wrote:
> >
> > I was a sixties flower child with a 62 Biscayne wagon. My girlfriend
made
> > curtains(flowered of course) and used small diameter springs mounted
> > lengthwise top and bottom, that the curtains slid over like a curtain
rod
> > would work. Looked real neat.
>
> I dont understand what you mean by small diameter springs.
>
> So far I'm thinking that a system based on using heavy fishing line
> for "curtain rods" might be the way. Fishing line is strong as hell,
> very light, and things slide on it easily. The loops in the curtains
> could also be fishing line, sewn to the hem of the material.
>
> The main problem seems to be how to apply hooks to the interior
> surface, which is all plastic (vinyl?). With age, it's become pretty
> dried out and brittle, so I dont think it will hold anything screwed
> into it. The home supply store has these hooks meant for bathroom
> walls that you just peel off and stick on the wall, but I dont know
> if those things actually hold up.
>




Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains and 427?

2004-07-14 Thread Clint Hooper
1963 was the first year for the 427 FE engines. 1958 was the first year for
the 352.
Clint Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
LT5 Registry Director
http://www.LT5Registry.net/
ACES #1650
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Riggins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I think your dad had a 312 T-bird engine in his '57 as you could get them
with a 2-4 set up, but I imagine one or more may have found it's way into
another Ford model.  352's were next, then 390's and the famed crossbolt
main 427's.  I know you could get a 352 in '59 and maybe even a 390 but
I don't think any 427's were around until the early '60's


on 7/14/04 12:06 PM, Danny Wilsher at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I remember my mom used these same springs to put curtains in a 57 ford
> wagon that dad bought brand new. We all thought it was pretty neat
looking.
> They were kinda like screen door springs but smaller diameter.
> This reminds me of something. I know we all hate fords here, but do
any
> of you have any idea if a 427 ford motor was produced in 57. This wagon
that
> my dad had came from the factory with what he said was a 427 and it had
two
> four barrels on it. He said he was contacted by the factory to bring the
car
> back and they would give him a new motor because they wanted this one
back.
> It wasn't supposed to be put in a car much less a station wagon. They said
> it was a experimental design that somehow showed up in that old wagon. He
> loved the way it ran, so he kept it. I was just curious if any one here
had
> any recollections of them days. I wasn't but 3 years old when it was new,
> but remember growing up riding in it. I was 14 or 15 when he finally sold
> it. Thanks for indulging me. Hope I don't make to many people mad at
> me... Wish I still had that old clunker...
>Ã ..
> Wilsher Motor Sports
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Kiernan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains
>
>
> :
> :
> : Mike Holleman wrote:
> : >
> : > I was a sixties flower child with a 62 Biscayne wagon. My girlfriend
> made
> : > curtains(flowered of course) and used small diameter springs mounted
> : > lengthwise top and bottom, that the curtains slid over like a curtain
> rod
> : > would work. Looked real neat.
> :
> :
>
>
>






Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains and 427?

2004-07-14 Thread Ed Riggins
I think your dad had a 312 T-bird engine in his '57 as you could get them
with a 2-4 set up, but I imagine one or more may have found it's way into
another Ford model.  352's were next, then 390's and the famed crossbolt
main 427's.  I know you could get a 352 in '59 and maybe even a 390 but
I don't think any 427's were around until the early '60's


on 7/14/04 12:06 PM, Danny Wilsher at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I remember my mom used these same springs to put curtains in a 57 ford
> wagon that dad bought brand new. We all thought it was pretty neat looking.
> They were kinda like screen door springs but smaller diameter.
> This reminds me of something. I know we all hate fords here, but do any
> of you have any idea if a 427 ford motor was produced in 57. This wagon that
> my dad had came from the factory with what he said was a 427 and it had two
> four barrels on it. He said he was contacted by the factory to bring the car
> back and they would give him a new motor because they wanted this one back.
> It wasn't supposed to be put in a car much less a station wagon. They said
> it was a experimental design that somehow showed up in that old wagon. He
> loved the way it ran, so he kept it. I was just curious if any one here had
> any recollections of them days. I wasn't but 3 years old when it was new,
> but remember growing up riding in it. I was 14 or 15 when he finally sold
> it. Thanks for indulging me. Hope I don't make to many people mad at
> me... Wish I still had that old clunker...
>Ã ..
> Wilsher Motor Sports
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Kiernan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains
> 
> 
> :
> :
> : Mike Holleman wrote:
> : >
> : > I was a sixties flower child with a 62 Biscayne wagon. My girlfriend
> made
> : > curtains(flowered of course) and used small diameter springs mounted
> : > lengthwise top and bottom, that the curtains slid over like a curtain
> rod
> : > would work. Looked real neat.
> :
> :
> 
> 
> 





Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains and 427?

2004-07-14 Thread Stephen Monjar
 I'm no F*rd authority, but a friend of mine in college (about 1963) had a
'57 Fairlane 4-dr HT with dual quads.  I'm pretty sure, however, that the
engine was a 312. A 352 appeared in 1958.

I don't think F*rd had a 427 until the early '60s.

But then, only a F*rd-lover would know for sure...

Steve

On 7/14/04 2:06 PM, "Danny Wilsher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I remember my mom used these same springs to put curtains in a 57 ford
> wagon that dad bought brand new. We all thought it was pretty neat looking.
> They were kinda like screen door springs but smaller diameter.
> This reminds me of something. I know we all hate fords here, but do any
> of you have any idea if a 427 ford motor was produced in 57. This wagon that
> my dad had came from the factory with what he said was a 427 and it had two
> four barrels on it. He said he was contacted by the factory to bring the car
> back and they would give him a new motor because they wanted this one back.
> It wasn't supposed to be put in a car much less a station wagon. They said
> it was a experimental design that somehow showed up in that old wagon. He
> loved the way it ran, so he kept it. I was just curious if any one here had
> any recollections of them days. I wasn't but 3 years old when it was new,
> but remember growing up riding in it. I was 14 or 15 when he finally sold
> it. Thanks for indulging me. Hope I don't make to many people mad at
> me... Wish I still had that old clunker...
>Ã ..
> Wilsher Motor Sports





Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains and 427?

2004-07-14 Thread Danny Wilsher
I remember my mom used these same springs to put curtains in a 57 ford
wagon that dad bought brand new. We all thought it was pretty neat looking.
They were kinda like screen door springs but smaller diameter.
This reminds me of something. I know we all hate fords here, but do any
of you have any idea if a 427 ford motor was produced in 57. This wagon that
my dad had came from the factory with what he said was a 427 and it had two
four barrels on it. He said he was contacted by the factory to bring the car
back and they would give him a new motor because they wanted this one back.
It wasn't supposed to be put in a car much less a station wagon. They said
it was a experimental design that somehow showed up in that old wagon. He
loved the way it ran, so he kept it. I was just curious if any one here had
any recollections of them days. I wasn't but 3 years old when it was new,
but remember growing up riding in it. I was 14 or 15 when he finally sold
it. Thanks for indulging me. Hope I don't make to many people mad at
me... Wish I still had that old clunker...
   Ðäññÿ ..
Wilsher Motor Sports
- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Kiernan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains


:
:
: Mike Holleman wrote:
: >
: > I was a sixties flower child with a 62 Biscayne wagon. My girlfriend
made
: > curtains(flowered of course) and used small diameter springs mounted
: > lengthwise top and bottom, that the curtains slid over like a curtain
rod
: > would work. Looked real neat.
:
:




Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains

2004-07-14 Thread Dennis Kiernan


Mike Holleman wrote:
> 
> I was a sixties flower child with a 62 Biscayne wagon. My girlfriend made
> curtains(flowered of course) and used small diameter springs mounted
> lengthwise top and bottom, that the curtains slid over like a curtain rod
> would work. Looked real neat.

I dont understand what you mean by small diameter springs.

So far I'm thinking that a system based on using heavy fishing line
for "curtain rods" might be the way. Fishing line is strong as hell,
very light, and things slide on it easily. The loops in the curtains
could also be fishing line, sewn to the hem of the material. 

The main problem seems to be how to apply hooks to the interior
surface, which is all plastic (vinyl?). With age, it's become pretty
dried out and brittle, so I dont think it will hold anything screwed
into it. The home supply store has these hooks meant for bathroom
walls that you just peel off and stick on the wall, but I dont know
if those things actually hold up.



Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains

2004-07-14 Thread Mike Holleman
I was a sixties flower child with a 62 Biscayne wagon. My girlfriend made
curtains(flowered of course) and used small diameter springs mounted
lengthwise top and bottom, that the curtains slid over like a curtain rod
would work. Looked real neat.
Mike Holleman
- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Kiernan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chevelle-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:52 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Curtains


> Has anybody put up curtains all around the back half of a station
> wagon? I want to be able to draw them for when I want to sleep in
> the car on long trips, but out of the way most the time. It looks
> like a project that will take a lot of imagination to figure out.
> Anybody got any ideas?
>




Re: [Chevelle-list] Curtains

2004-07-13 Thread 65ss.com
I've owned a VW camper and I'm sure you can use what they did.  It was a
small aluminum 'C' Channel that was easily bent.  It had small plastic
inserts that had loops that you sewed the curtains too.  You just need to
figure out how to attach it to your vehicle.  If not two spring loaded
clothes hanger rods could suspend the front and rear curtains, then you make
the side ones just have loops at the ends, and you attach it at the ends of
the spring loaded rods.  Easy to take down, but storing them isn't as easy.

Charles

---
Check out my 502 powered '65 Malibu Super Sport Project
http://www.65ss.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Kiernan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chevelle-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:52 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Curtains


> Has anybody put up curtains all around the back half of a station
> wagon? I want to be able to draw them for when I want to sleep in
> the car on long trips, but out of the way most the time. It looks
> like a project that will take a lot of imagination to figure out.
> Anybody got any ideas?
>




[Chevelle-list] Curtains

2004-07-13 Thread Dennis Kiernan
Has anybody put up curtains all around the back half of a station
wagon? I want to be able to draw them for when I want to sleep in
the car on long trips, but out of the way most the time. It looks
like a project that will take a lot of imagination to figure out.
Anybody got any ideas?