Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front control arms?

2007-04-04 Thread Rick Schaefer

 I found this at Oreillys web site:
http://www.oreillyauto.com/EW3/ProductDetail.do?id=95286801&client_ip=56.0.84.23&manualActivantIndex=1&vehicle=1972%20CHEVROLET%20EL%20CAMINO%20CUSTOM%20-%20V8-5.0L%20CARB
MOOG offset shafts, part number K5250.   I don't know if they are still
available but you can check with any parts store.  MOOG is a well known
manufacturer.

Also on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1964-72-CHEVELLE-EL-CAMINO-UPPER-ARM-CONTROL-SHAFT_W0QQitemZ290097267557QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34200QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem


On 4/4/07, Pelle Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 BTW!



I found an article a about this and it says that they only make offset
cross-shafts nowadays to Pontiacs,
is this the case for Chevelles as well?



Pelle


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Well if the car is resting on blocks placed underneath the lower control
arms, then the uppers wont be resting on those rubber bump stops. If you
have any trouble, just ask.




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I'll be careful.



I know that the upper control arm doesen't have a spring in it but if one
let the arm down

too far the rubber stop could act as a spring! But I wont do that!



I'll do it like Joe said!



Thanks again guys J



Pelle


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The upper control arm doesnt have a spring in it. If you support the lower
ball joint like Joe said, then youll be just fine. It wont "hit back" on
you. But as always, be careful.




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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front
controlarms?

This is the way i planned to do it and thought might work when I looked at
how things were interconnected.

I'll proceed with caution & if i notice any heavy load on the ball joint
nut I'll stop! (or run)



As long as I don't let the lower arm pull the upper arm all the way down
to

the rubber stop, creating a load, there should be no way the upper
arm would "hit back" on me!?



I'll be careful!



Thanks!

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controlarms?



If you support the weight of the vehicle with a jack, directly under the
lower ball joint( or as close as possible to the end of the arm)

You can remove the upper ball joint nut, break the ball joint loose with a
pickle fork, and then remove the upper arm, no problem. The key is
supporting the

Vehicles weight at the outer end of the lower control arm.



Joe

70 SS


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STOP





There is pressure everywhere in there.  Take a look at how things are
connected.  The spindle connects the upper/lower control arms.  I won't go
into more detail on how to take them off safely because they can be
dangerous.



Ask a How To and folks with better verbage than I will respond.  Spring
compressors are a nice tool to use to keep yourself safe.




Walt


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arms?



Hi!



Is there any tension from the springs on the upper "a-arms" ?

i.e. can I remove them without removing the springs?

As far as I can see all tension/weight is on the lower control arm?



I need to change the bushings :-/



Pelle

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front control arms?

2007-04-04 Thread bad66chevelle454
 I have no clue. Hopefully somebody else knows?

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   BTW!   I found an article a about this and it says that they only make 
offset cross-shafts nowadays to Pontiacs,
 is this the case for Chevelles as well?   Pelle   Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Well if the car is resting on blocks placed underneath the lower control arms, 
then the uppers wont be resting on those rubber bump stops. If you have any 
trouble, just ask.
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  I’ll be careful.   I know that the upper control arm doesen’t have a 
spring in it but if one let the arm down   too far the rubber stop could act as 
a spring! But I wont do that!   I’ll do it like Joe said!   Thanks 
again guys J   Pelle   Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
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The upper control arm doesnt have a spring in it. If you support the lower 
ball joint like Joe said, then youll be just fine. It wont "hit back" on you. 
But as always, be careful.   
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 Sent: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front controlarms?  
   This is the way i planned to do it and thought might work when I looked at 
how things were interconnected. I'll proceed with caution & if i notice any 
heavy load on the ball joint nut I'll stop! (or run)   As long as I 
don't let the lower arm pull the upper arm all the way down to the rubber 
stop, creating a load, there should be no way the upper arm would "hit back" on 
me!?   I'll be careful!   Thanks!  - Original Message 
-  From: Joe  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'  Sent: Wednesday, 
April 04, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on 
upper front controlarms?If you support the weight of the vehicle 
with a jack, directly under the lower ball joint( or as close as possible to 
the end of the arm) You can remove the upper ball joint nut, break the ball 
joint loose with a pickle fork, and then remove the upper arm, no problem. The 
key is supporting the  Vehicles weight at the outer end of the lower 
control arm.   Joe 70 SS   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BAINEY, WALTER
 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:06 AM
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 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front controlarms?  
  STOP There is pressure everywhere in there. Take a 
look at how things are connected. The spindle connects the upper/lower control 
arms. I won’t go into more detail on how to take them off safely because they 
can be dangerous.   Ask a How To and folks with better verbage than I 
will respond. Spring compressors are a nice tool to use to keep yourself safe.  
 
 Walt   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Pelle Andersson
 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 1:45 PM
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 Subject: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front control arms? 
Hi!   Is there any tension from the springs on the upper 
"a-arms" ?   i.e. can I remove them without removing the springs?   As 
far as I can see all tension/weight is on the lower control arm?   
I need to change the bushings :-/   Pellesize=2 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front control arms?

2007-04-04 Thread Pelle Andersson
BTW!

 

I found an article a about this and it says that they only make offset
cross-shafts nowadays to Pontiacs,
is this the case for Chevelles as well?

 

Pelle

 

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Well if the car is resting on blocks placed underneath the lower control
arms, then the uppers wont be resting on those rubber bump stops. If you
have any trouble, just ask. 

 

 
-Original Message-
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Sent: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front
controlarms?

I’ll be careful.

 

I know that the upper control arm doesen’t have a spring in it but if one
let the arm down

too far the rubber stop could act as a spring! But I wont do that!

 

I’ll do it like Joe said!

 

Thanks again guys :-)

 

Pelle

 

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The upper control arm doesnt have a spring in it. If you support the lower
ball joint like Joe said, then youll be just fine. It wont "hit back" on
you. But as always, be careful.

 

 
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Sent: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front
controlarms?

This is the way i planned to do it and thought might work when I looked at
how things were interconnected.

I'll proceed with caution & if i notice any heavy load on the ball joint nut
I'll stop! (or run)

 

As long as I don't let the lower arm pull the upper arm all the way down to

the rubber stop, creating a load, there should be no way the upper arm would
"hit back" on me!?

 

I'll be careful!

 

Thanks!

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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Joe 

To: HYPERLINK "mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net";'The Chevelle Mailing
List' 

Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:54 PM

Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front
controlarms?

 

If you support the weight of the vehicle with a jack, directly under the
lower ball joint( or as close as possible to the end of the arm)

You can remove the upper ball joint nut, break the ball joint loose with a
pickle fork, and then remove the upper arm, no problem. The key is
supporting the 

Vehicles weight at the outer end of the lower control arm.

 

Joe

70 SS

 


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Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front
controlarms?

 

STOP

 

 

There is pressure everywhere in there.  Take a look at how things are
connected.  The spindle connects the upper/lower control arms.  I won’t go
into more detail on how to take them off safely because they can be
dangerous.

 

Ask a How To and folks with better verbage than I will respond.  Spring
compressors are a nice tool to use to keep yourself safe.

 


Walt

 


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Subject: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front control arms?

 

Hi!

 

Is there any tension from the springs on the upper "a-arms" ?

i.e. can I remove them without removing the springs?

As far as I can see all tension/weight is on the lower control arm?

 

I need to change the bushings :-/

 

Pelle

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front control arms?

2007-04-04 Thread BAINEY, WALTER
STOP

 

 

There is pressure everywhere in there.  Take a look at how things are
connected.  The spindle connects the upper/lower control arms.  I won't
go into more detail on how to take them off safely because they can be
dangerous.

 

Ask a How To and folks with better verbage than I will respond.  Spring
compressors are a nice tool to use to keep yourself safe.

 


Walt

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pelle
Andersson
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 1:45 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front control
arms?

 

Hi!

 

Is there any tension from the springs on the upper "a-arms" ?

i.e. can I remove them without removing the springs?

As far as I can see all tension/weight is on the lower control arm?

 

I need to change the bushings :-/

 

Pelle



Re: [Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front control arms?

2007-04-04 Thread Randy S Johnson
The spring pushes the lower A-arm down from your frame and if your spindal 
is still attached between your upper and lower A-arms it will also be 
pulling down on your upper arm arm.  I just removed my uppers two nights 
ago.  I had the spinal off the car already however and springs removed.  I 
think it would be a real trick to remove the upper arm with the spring 
still on.
Please anyone correct me if I am wrong as I am a rookie at this game.
PS~Anyone know of a good place to get a passenger side steering knuckle? I 
found out mine is badly damaged while taking the A-arms off.

Thank You,

Randy S. Johnson
eServ  - Engineer
CAT Phone / 309-578-5077
Operator Environment & Interface
Building AC, Peoria   BO41



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Hi!
 
Is there any tension from the springs on the upper "a-arms" ?
i.e. can I remove them without removing the springs?
As far as I can see all tension/weight is on the lower control arm?
 
I need to change the bushings :-/
 
Pelle


[Chevelle-list] Tension from springs on upper front control arms?

2007-04-04 Thread Pelle Andersson
Hi!

Is there any tension from the springs on the upper "a-arms" ?
i.e. can I remove them without removing the springs?
As far as I can see all tension/weight is on the lower control arm?

I need to change the bushings :-/

Pelle