Re: WAS Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt ... now Good deal JJ

2003-12-11 Thread John Fig
Hush it up there... Don't make us convince your wife
to bring your car to the WOW if your gonna be out of
town. And that includes the obligatory burnout when
you leave the show ;)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> She has the right Idea JJ!!  Thanks Herb for setting
> her straight... LOL
> 
> Donnie
> 


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RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-10 Thread Herb Lumpp
Hi JJ,

Since my car is on jack stands at the moment and my new wheels won't be here
until just before or just after Christmas, I really haven't thought about
going to the WOW this year.  How soon do you need to know if I want to go?

Oh, and now that your wife is thinking straight, you can sell the 70 and
make room for a bad ass 64-67!  :)

Herb Lumpp
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Fig
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 12:00 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt


Sheesh I think I missed something... Did Herb get new
wheels? Hey its also Herbs fault that my wife wants a
bad ass 64-67 now instead of my 70... :o)

Hey Herb on a side note have you thought about making
it to the World of Wheels at the new convention center
this year? Mom is trying to get people signed up, they
even have a non ISCA class this year for street cars.

later all

JJ Fig

--- Clint Hooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Glad to hear it's all Herb's fault this time. I'm
> the one that usually gets the blame. heh,heh,heh!
> Clint Hooper
> H&H Custom,owner
> LT5 Registry Director
> http://www.LT5Registry.net/
> ACES #1650
> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Mike Holleman
>
>
>   Thanks Clint, I will keep it in mind. At this
> point I should not even being considering the things
> I am I doing to the Elky. It's all Herbs fault.
> Right at this moment I have a freshly built 421 tri
> power engine on the stand in my shop, a custom built
> 700R4 with all the amenities from Bowtie Overdrives
> in a box beside the 421. Ron Davis is building a
> custom rad. for it and all the extra stuff needed to
> mount up is on order, and here I am messing with a
> perfectly good El Camino. I have a customers
> beautiful 64 Buick Skylark conv. all to pieces in
> the middle of a complete resto and here I go messing
> with the Elky. Did I mention that it is Herbs fault?
> I have several things I want to do to the Elky, like
> the rear end change to allow the 17 by 10s to fit, a
> trans upgrade to a 5 or 6 speed, more HP etc. But my
> prioritys are all out of wack. The customer is happy
> with the pace and quality of his resto. The Tempest
> transplant is gonna be wicked , so how on earth have
> I gotten side tracked in to messin with my very nice
> fully functional Elky? You got it, It's all Herbs
> fault. The least he could do is come down for a week
> or two to help me get back on track. Anyway, I do
> appreciate the ideas and comments coming from the
> list. Just need a few 48 hour days to get back on
> track.
>   Thanks
>   Mike


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WAS Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt ... now Good deal JJ

2003-12-10 Thread DonnieG67
She has the right Idea JJ!!  Thanks Herb for setting her straight... LOL

Donnie



Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-10 Thread John Fig
Sheesh I think I missed something... Did Herb get new
wheels? Hey its also Herbs fault that my wife wants a
bad ass 64-67 now instead of my 70... :o)

Hey Herb on a side note have you thought about making
it to the World of Wheels at the new convention center
this year? Mom is trying to get people signed up, they
even have a non ISCA class this year for street cars.

later all

JJ Fig

--- Clint Hooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Glad to hear it's all Herb's fault this time. I'm
> the one that usually gets the blame. heh,heh,heh!
> Clint Hooper
> H&H Custom,owner
> LT5 Registry Director
> http://www.LT5Registry.net/
> ACES #1650
> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Mike Holleman 
> 
> 
>   Thanks Clint, I will keep it in mind. At this
> point I should not even being considering the things
> I am I doing to the Elky. It's all Herbs fault.
> Right at this moment I have a freshly built 421 tri
> power engine on the stand in my shop, a custom built
> 700R4 with all the amenities from Bowtie Overdrives
> in a box beside the 421. Ron Davis is building a
> custom rad. for it and all the extra stuff needed to
> mount up is on order, and here I am messing with a
> perfectly good El Camino. I have a customers
> beautiful 64 Buick Skylark conv. all to pieces in
> the middle of a complete resto and here I go messing
> with the Elky. Did I mention that it is Herbs fault?
> I have several things I want to do to the Elky, like
> the rear end change to allow the 17 by 10s to fit, a
> trans upgrade to a 5 or 6 speed, more HP etc. But my
> prioritys are all out of wack. The customer is happy
> with the pace and quality of his resto. The Tempest
> transplant is gonna be wicked , so how on earth have
> I gotten side tracked in to messin with my very nice
> fully functional Elky? You got it, It's all Herbs
> fault. The least he could do is come down for a week
> or two to help me get back on track. Anyway, I do
> appreciate the ideas and comments coming from the
> list. Just need a few 48 hour days to get back on
> track.
>   Thanks
>   Mike


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Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-07 Thread Clint Hooper



Glad to hear it's all Herb's fault this time. I'm 
the one that usually gets the blame. heh,heh,heh!
Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES 
#1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mike 
  Holleman 
  
  Thanks Clint, I will keep it in mind. At this point I should 
  not even being considering the things I am I doing to the Elky. It's all Herbs 
  fault. Right at this moment I have a freshly built 421 tri power engine on the 
  stand in my shop, a custom built 700R4 with all the amenities from Bowtie 
  Overdrives in a box beside the 421. Ron Davis is building a custom rad. 
  for it and all the extra stuff needed to mount up is on order, and here I am 
  messing with a perfectly good El Camino. I have a customers beautiful 64 Buick 
  Skylark conv. all to pieces in the middle of a complete resto and here I go 
  messing with the Elky. Did I mention that it is Herbs fault? I have 
  several things I want to do to the Elky, like the rear end change to allow the 
  17 by 10s to fit, a trans upgrade to a 5 or 6 speed, more HP etc. But my 
  prioritys are all out of wack. The customer is happy with the pace and quality 
  of his resto. The Tempest transplant is gonna be wicked , so how on earth have 
  I gotten side tracked in to messin with my very nice fully functional Elky? 
  You got it, It's all Herbs fault. The least he could do is come down for a 
  week or two to help me get back on track. Anyway, I do appreciate the ideas 
  and comments coming from the list. Just need a few 48 hour days to get back on 
  track.
  Thanks
  Mike


Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-07 Thread Mike Holleman
Well isn't it refreshing to see someone take responsibility for their
actions. Or not. Got a ton done this weekend on the Skylark. Only thought
about the other two.
Later
- Original Message - 
From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt


> Yes it's my fault.  I take full responsibility for creating this sidetrack
> you're on!  Like I said, I can't wait to see your 65 with those wheels!
:)
>
> Herb Lumpp
> http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Holleman
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:17 PM
> To: The Chevelle Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
>
>
> Thanks Clint, I will keep it in mind. At this point I should not even
being
> considering the things I am I doing to the Elky. It's all Herbs fault.
Right
> at this moment I have a freshly built 421 tri power engine on the stand in
> my shop, a custom built 700R4 with all the amenities from Bowtie
Overdrives
> in a box beside the 421. Ron Davis is building a custom rad. for it and
all
> the extra stuff needed to mount up is on order, and here I am messing with
a
> perfectly good El Camino. I have a customers beautiful 64 Buick Skylark
> conv. all to pieces in the middle of a complete resto and here I go
messing
> with the Elky. Did I mention that it is Herbs fault? I have several things
I
> want to do to the Elky, like the rear end change to allow the 17 by 10s to
> fit, a trans upgrade to a 5 or 6 speed, more HP etc. But my prioritys are
> all out of wack. The customer is happy with the pace and quality of his
> resto. The Tempest transplant is gonna be wicked , so how on earth have I
> gotten side tracked in to messin with my very nice fully functional Elky?
> You got it, It's all Herbs fault. The least he could do is come down for a
> week or two to help me get back on track. Anyway, I do appreciate the
ideas
> and comments coming from the list. Just need a few 48 hour days to get
back
> on track.
> Thanks
> Mike
>
>  - Original Message -
> From: Clint Hooper
> To: The Chevelle Mailing List
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 4:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
>
>
> If you can fit a Baer rear disc brake kit in your budget,let me know if I
> can help.
> Clint Hooper
> H&H Custom,owner
> LT5 Registry Director
> http://www.LT5Registry.net/
> ACES #1650
> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
> - Original Message -
> From: Mike Holleman
>
>
> Larry, I will definitely look into c clip eliminators, maybe even going
with
> the Ford style retainers. By posing the question I am hoping someone will
> give me a good direction to accomplish this and make it easy to change to
> rear disc all at the same time. Any and all suggestions are appreciated.
> What I don't want is to spend the $2500. on a new Currie or Moser if I can
> do it for half as much with my existing 12 bolt.
> Mike Holleman
>
>




RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-07 Thread Herb Lumpp
Yes it's my fault.  I take full responsibility for creating this sidetrack
you're on!  Like I said, I can't wait to see your 65 with those wheels!  :)

Herb Lumpp
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Holleman
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:17 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt


Thanks Clint, I will keep it in mind. At this point I should not even being
considering the things I am I doing to the Elky. It's all Herbs fault. Right
at this moment I have a freshly built 421 tri power engine on the stand in
my shop, a custom built 700R4 with all the amenities from Bowtie Overdrives
in a box beside the 421. Ron Davis is building a custom rad. for it and all
the extra stuff needed to mount up is on order, and here I am messing with a
perfectly good El Camino. I have a customers beautiful 64 Buick Skylark
conv. all to pieces in the middle of a complete resto and here I go messing
with the Elky. Did I mention that it is Herbs fault? I have several things I
want to do to the Elky, like the rear end change to allow the 17 by 10s to
fit, a trans upgrade to a 5 or 6 speed, more HP etc. But my prioritys are
all out of wack. The customer is happy with the pace and quality of his
resto. The Tempest transplant is gonna be wicked , so how on earth have I
gotten side tracked in to messin with my very nice fully functional Elky?
You got it, It's all Herbs fault. The least he could do is come down for a
week or two to help me get back on track. Anyway, I do appreciate the ideas
and comments coming from the list. Just need a few 48 hour days to get back
on track.
Thanks
Mike

 - Original Message -
From: Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt


If you can fit a Baer rear disc brake kit in your budget,let me know if I
can help.
Clint Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
LT5 Registry Director
http://www.LT5Registry.net/
ACES #1650
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From: Mike Holleman


Larry, I will definitely look into c clip eliminators, maybe even going with
the Ford style retainers. By posing the question I am hoping someone will
give me a good direction to accomplish this and make it easy to change to
rear disc all at the same time. Any and all suggestions are appreciated.
What I don't want is to spend the $2500. on a new Currie or Moser if I can
do it for half as much with my existing 12 bolt.
Mike Holleman




Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-07 Thread Mike Holleman



Thanks Clint, I will keep it in mind. At this point I should 
not even being considering the things I am I doing to the Elky. It's all Herbs 
fault. Right at this moment I have a freshly built 421 tri power engine on the 
stand in my shop, a custom built 700R4 with all the amenities from Bowtie 
Overdrives in a box beside the 421. Ron Davis is building a custom rad. for 
it and all the extra stuff needed to mount up is on order, and here I am messing 
with a perfectly good El Camino. I have a customers beautiful 64 Buick Skylark 
conv. all to pieces in the middle of a complete resto and here I go messing with 
the Elky. Did I mention that it is Herbs fault? I have several things I 
want to do to the Elky, like the rear end change to allow the 17 by 10s to fit, 
a trans upgrade to a 5 or 6 speed, more HP etc. But my prioritys are all out of 
wack. The customer is happy with the pace and quality of his resto. The Tempest 
transplant is gonna be wicked , so how on earth have I gotten side tracked in to 
messin with my very nice fully functional Elky? You got it, It's all Herbs 
fault. The least he could do is come down for a week or two to help me get back 
on track. Anyway, I do appreciate the ideas and comments coming from the list. 
Just need a few 48 hour days to get back on track.
Thanks
Mike
 
 - Original Message - 

  From: 
  Clint Hooper 
  
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 4:07 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 
  12 bolt
  
  If you can fit a Baer rear disc brake kit in 
  your budget,let me know if I can help.
  Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES 
  #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Mike 
Holleman 

Larry, I will definitely look into c clip eliminators, 
maybe even going with the Ford style retainers. By posing the question I am 
hoping someone will give me a good direction to accomplish this and make it 
easy to change to rear disc all at the same time. Any and all suggestions 
are appreciated. What I don't want is to spend the $2500. on a new Currie or 
Moser if I can do it for half as much with my existing 12 bolt.
Mike 
Holleman


Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-07 Thread Clint Hooper



If you can fit a Baer rear disc brake kit in 
your budget,let me know if I can help.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES 
#1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mike 
  Holleman 
  
  Larry, I will definitely look into c clip eliminators, maybe 
  even going with the Ford style retainers. By posing the question I am hoping 
  someone will give me a good direction to accomplish this and make it easy to 
  change to rear disc all at the same time. Any and all suggestions are 
  appreciated. What I don't want is to spend the $2500. on a new Currie or Moser 
  if I can do it for half as much with my existing 12 bolt.
  Mike Holleman


RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-07 Thread Tigergutt










 
  
  Mike,
  I just checked mosers website and it looks like
  this. $2075 + brakes + extras
   
   
   
   
   
   
  Complete
  12 Bolt w/Posi (less brakes) 
  
  
  $2075 
  
 
 
  
  Torque Arm Cars & coil Spring Rears
  w/Rears 
  Includes 12 Bolt Housing, M/E Custom Alloy Axles, wheel bearings, wheel
  studs, retainer plates, Eaton Posi (30 spline), Pro Street gears, 1350 series pinion yoke,
  chrome cover and assembly
  
 


 


 
  
  * Add
  for 33 spline Eaton Posi-Unit 
  
  
  $100 
  
 
 
  
  * Add for
  Performace Rearend Cover 
  
  
  $135 
  
 
 
  
  * Add
  for 3 channel ABS setup
  
  
  $100
  
 
 
  
  * Add
  for 4 channel ABS setup
  
  
  $100
  
 
 
  
  * Add
  for new exciter rings 
  
  
  $75
  
 
 
  
  installed on axles for 4 channel setup
  
 
 
  
  *
  Subtract for 1310 series pinion yoke 
  
  
  $35
  
 


 

 



 

 

Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti

 

André Broe Jensen



 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tigergutt
Sent: 7. desember 2003 11:56
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list]
narrowing a 12 bolt

 

I dont
think its as much as $ 2500, they are advertising them just below $ 1800, but I
dont know how complete they are at that price.

 

Maybe
selling one of the desirable ones you could get out like this (rough estimates)

 

12bolt
later housing from Clints area + shipping =$ 300

axle
package with bearing retainers etc =$ 500

posi =$
350

gears =$
150

bearings
and installation kit =$ 150

disc
brakes baer = $ 700

yoke = $
50

Installation
=$ 100

 

Totalis
de totalis = $ 2200 + shortening and you might save a couple hundreds getting
cheaper brakes or somthing.

 

Ok now
we are at $ 2000. I always calculate a 100% extra to cover unexpected costs
(for me shipping and local taxes) so we are at $ 4000 now hahaha

 

I dont
know how much you could get from selling the rear you have and I dont know what
parts you already have laying but it should be approx like this.

 



 

 

Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind
Regards/Cordiali Saluti

 

André Broe Jensen



 

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Holleman
Sent: 7. desember 2003 00:10
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list]
narrowing a 12 bolt

 



Larry, I will definitely
look into c clip eliminators, maybe even going with the Ford style retainers.
By posing the question I am hoping someone will give me a good direction to
accomplish this and make it easy to change to rear disc all at the same time.
Any and all suggestions are appreciated. What I don't want is to spend the
$2500. on a new Currie or Moser if I can do it for half as much with my
existing 12 bolt.





Mike Holleman







- Original Message - 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 





To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:51 PM





Subject: Re:
[Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt





 



With all the work being done why not check and see
about either Currie or Moser. I read an article last year about one of the twos
(not sure which one) GM12 bolt and they narrowed it. they are set up without c
clips. 
Larry
(Z) 










RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-07 Thread Tigergutt









I dont think its as much as $ 2500, they are advertising them just below
$ 1800, but I dont know how complete they are at that
price.

 

Maybe selling one of the desirable ones you
could get out like this (rough estimates)

 

12bolt later housing from Clints area + shipping =$ 300

axle package with bearing retainers etc =$ 500

posi =$ 350

gears =$ 150

bearings and installation kit =$ 150

disc brakes baer = $ 700

yoke = $ 50

Installation =$ 100

 

Totalis de totalis = $ 2200 + shortening and you
might save a couple hundreds getting cheaper brakes or somthing.

 

Ok now we are at $ 2000. I always
calculate a 100% extra to cover unexpected costs (for me shipping and local
taxes) so we are at $ 4000 now hahaha

 

I dont know how
much you could get from selling the rear you have and I dont
know what parts you already have laying but it should be approx like this.

 



 

 

Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti

 

André Broe Jensen



 

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Holleman
Sent: 7. desember 2003 00:10
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list]
narrowing a 12 bolt

 



Larry, I will definitely
look into c clip eliminators, maybe even going with the Ford style retainers.
By posing the question I am hoping someone will give me a good direction to
accomplish this and make it easy to change to rear disc all at the same time.
Any and all suggestions are appreciated. What I don't want is to spend the
$2500. on a new Currie or Moser if I can do it for half as much with my
existing 12 bolt.





Mike Holleman







- Original Message - 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 





To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Sent: Saturday,
December 06, 2003 5:51 PM





Subject: Re:
[Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt





 



With all the work being done why not check and see
about either Currie or Moser. I read an article last year about one of the twos
(not sure which one) GM12 bolt and they narrowed it. they are set up without c
clips. 
Larry
(Z) 










Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Mike:
i think the basic currie/ moser 12 bolt is about 1500
   Larry (Z)


Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Clint Hooper
Title: Message



Around here,you can find a bare 68-72 housing 
for around $200. Worst come to worst,sell one of the desireable 12 bolts so you 
can build a narrowed unit.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES 
#1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mike 
  Holleman 
  
  But guys, I have two old styles and no newer styles. 
  
  Mike
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Dale McIntosh 


I agree with Clint.  65-67 rear ends are getting harder to find 
than the relatively common 68-72 models.  As long as you're going to 
have it narrowed anyway, they don't charge by the inch.  
:*)
Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 
67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place – My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff – Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 – 1967 
Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles – Midwest Chevelle Show Information 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
  HooperSent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:44 PMTo: 
  The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing 
  a 12 bolt
  Any good drag race chassis shop can narrow 
  that rear for you,at a reasonable price. If it were me,I think I would 
  narrow one of the later rears so you could save the more rare earlier 12 
  bolt. 
  Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES 
  #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Mike 
Holleman 

Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a 
stock 12 bolt? I need to bring  my 12 bolt down about two inches 
total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process 
I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm 
trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of 
backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear 
disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated.
Mike 
  Holleman


Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Mike Holleman



Larry, I will definitely look into c clip eliminators, maybe 
even going with the Ford style retainers. By posing the question I am hoping 
someone will give me a good direction to accomplish this and make it easy to 
change to rear disc all at the same time. Any and all suggestions are 
appreciated. What I don't want is to spend the $2500. on a new Currie or Moser 
if I can do it for half as much with my existing 12 bolt.
Mike Holleman

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:51 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 
  12 bolt
  With all the work being done why not check and see about 
  either Currie or Moser. I read an article last year about one of the twos (not 
  sure which one) GM12 bolt and they narrowed it. they are set up without c 
  clips. 
  Larry 
  (Z) 


Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Mike Holleman
Title: Message



But guys, I have two old styles and no newer styles. 

Mike

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dale McIntosh 
  
  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
  
  Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:37 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 
  12 bolt
  
  I 
  agree with Clint.  65-67 rear ends are getting harder to find than the 
  relatively common 68-72 models.  As long as you're going to have it 
  narrowed anyway, they don't charge by the inch.  :*)
  Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place – My 67 
  SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff – Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 – 1967 
  Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles – Midwest Chevelle Show Information 
  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
HooperSent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:44 PMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 
bolt
Any good drag race chassis shop can narrow that 
rear for you,at a reasonable price. If it were me,I think I would narrow one 
of the later rears so you could save the more rare earlier 12 bolt. 

Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES 
#1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mike 
  Holleman 
  
  Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a 
  stock 12 bolt? I need to bring  my 12 bolt down about two inches 
  total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I 
  would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to 
  fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would 
  also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any 
  guidance will be appreciated.
  Mike 
Holleman


Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
With all the work being done why not check and see about either Currie or Moser. I read an article last year about one of the twos (not sure which one) GM12 bolt and they narrowed it. they are set up without c clips.
 Larry (Z)


RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Dale McIntosh
Title: Message



I 
agree with Clint.  65-67 rear ends are getting harder to find than the 
relatively common 68-72 models.  As long as you're going to have it 
narrowed anyway, they don't charge by the inch.  :*)
Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place – My 67 SS 
and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff – Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 – 1967 
Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles – Midwest Chevelle Show Information 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
  HooperSent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:44 PMTo: The 
  Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 
  bolt
  Any good drag race chassis shop can narrow that 
  rear for you,at a reasonable price. If it were me,I think I would narrow one 
  of the later rears so you could save the more rare earlier 12 bolt. 
  
  Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES 
  #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Mike 
Holleman 

Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 
12 bolt? I need to bring  my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If 
someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would 
appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit 
some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also 
like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance 
will be appreciated.
Mike 
Holleman


Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Clint Hooper



Any good drag race chassis shop can narrow that 
rear for you,at a reasonable price. If it were me,I think I would narrow one of 
the later rears so you could save the more rare earlier 12 bolt. 
Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES 
#1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mike 
  Holleman 
  
  Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 
  12 bolt? I need to bring  my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If 
  someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would 
  appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 
  17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to 
  eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be 
  appreciated.
  Mike Holleman


RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Tigergutt








Thanks ;)

 



 

 

Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti

 

André Broe Jensen



 

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60.50
1964-1967 Chevelle 
62.50 1968-1972 Chevelle 
















Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
60.50   1964-1967   Chevelle
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RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Tigergutt
Title: Message









Now that you are at you files Dale, would
you be so kind to tell me the drum to drum with of a1968 rear and also hub to
hub with up front ?? 

 



 

 

Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti

 

André Broe Jensen



 

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Behalf Of Dale McIntosh
Sent: 6. desember 2003 18:45
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list]
narrowing a 12 bolt

 



68-72
is the wider one.  Measurements vary as sources measure from different
points but 1- to 1 1/2-inch per side is the accepted norm.



Dale
McIntosh 
TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 
67SS/67 Elky 
Dale’s Place
– My 67 SS and 67 El Camino 
ChevelleStuff
– Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles 
Team 67
– 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific 
Midwest Chevelles
– Midwest Chevelle Show Information 



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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:58 AM
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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list]
narrowing a 12 bolt

Mike,

 

Isn’t
so that a 68/72 rear is two inches shorter than the 64/67 ones or was it
two inches wider  

Sorry
but I cant remember, 



 

 

Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti

 

André Broe Jensen



 

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Sent: 6. desember 2003 02:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing
a 12 bolt

 



Anybody know of a good
source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring  my 12 bolt
down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report
on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and
I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of
backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in
the process. Any guidance will be appreciated.





Mike Holleman












RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Dale McIntosh
Title: Message



68-72 is the wider one.  Measurements vary as sources measure from 
different points but 1- to 1 1/2-inch per side is the accepted 
norm.
Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place – My 67 SS 
and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff – Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 – 1967 
Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles – Midwest Chevelle Show Information 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  TigerguttSent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:58 
  AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: 
  [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
  
  Mike,
   
  Isn’t so that a 68/72 
  rear is two inches shorter than the 64/67 ones or was it two inches wider  
  Sorry but I cant 
  remember, 
  
   
   
  Med Vennlig 
  Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti
   
  André Broe 
  Jensen
   
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  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike HollemanSent: 6. desember 2003 02:45To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 
  bolt
   
  
  Anybody know of a good source of info on 
  narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring  my 12 bolt down about two 
  inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this 
  process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm 
  trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I 
  would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any 
  guidance will be appreciated.
  
  Mike 
  Holleman


RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Tigergutt









Just get a 68 elky
and use one of those rears :o)

 

Then I would order the axles and have the
rear shortened, I have heard about someone having oil leak problems with c-clip
eliminators so I would go with new FXXD ends on the tubes you have, a good
welder should be able to get it straight and maybe a set of newer camaro rear discs or one of those street sets in the
catalogs would be nice.

I would do it in this way because I’m
on budget and shipping a complete rear end from USA to Italy would cost more than the rear itself, if you are on a little bit
bigger budget you could just order a new rear to the
needed specs right out of a catalog

 



:)

 

Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti

 

André Broe Jensen



 

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Sent: 6. desember 2003 15:32
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list]
narrowing a 12 bolt

 



The 68/72 is one inch
wider. Plus I have two 12 bolts, one from a 65 and one from a 67.





Mike







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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 4:58 AM





Subject: RE:
[Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt





 



Mike,

 

Isn’t
so that a 68/72 rear is two inches shorter than the 64/67 ones or was it
two inches wider  

Sorry
but I cant remember, 



 

 

Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti

 

André Broe Jensen



 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Holleman
Sent: 6. desember 2003 02:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing
a 12 bolt

 



Anybody know of a good
source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring  my 12 bolt
down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report
on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and
I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of
backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in
the process. Any guidance will be appreciated.





Mike Holleman












Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Mike Holleman



The 68/72 is one inch wider. Plus I have two 12 bolts, one 
from a 65 and one from a 67.
Mike

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tigergutt 
  
  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
  
  Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 4:58 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 
  12 bolt
  
  
  Mike,
   
  Isn’t so that a 68/72 
  rear is two inches shorter than the 64/67 ones or was it two inches wider  
  Sorry but I cant 
  remember, 
  
   
   
  Med Vennlig 
  Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti
   
  André 
  Broe Jensen
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike HollemanSent: 6. desember 2003 02:45To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 
  bolt
   
  
  Anybody know of a good source of info on 
  narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring  my 12 bolt down about two 
  inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this 
  process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm 
  trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I 
  would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any 
  guidance will be appreciated.
  
  Mike 
  Holleman


Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Mike Holleman
Buddy, The guy who does all my machine work says,"no problem". He is a Moser
dealer he has regular contact with them, so their input will be there.
Before I do anything much I'm going up on a lift and dropping the coils to
see if I have a problem with hitting the inner wells when collapsed. You
know me, I can't be satisfied with just one project going on. The Tempest
will come first. The trans is here, Ron Davis is at work, and then there is
the Skylark. It is all apart now. So much work and so little time.

Mike
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From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt


> Hi Mike,
>
> Since I sold you my wheels, I kinda feel responsible to help you make them
> fit!  If you can't find anyone local to modify your 12 bolt, try Moser
> Engineering.  They're in Portland, Indiana so shipping shouldn't be too
bad.
> This link has a list of their shop services and prices...
>
> http://www.moserengineering.com/moser_interior/shopservices.htm
>
> BTW, I thought you were going to get the Tempest done before you start on
> the Elky?  You're as bad as I am!  :)  I can't wait to see your '65 with
> those wheels!
>
> Herb
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Holleman
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
>
>
> Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need
> to bring  my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to
a
> good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12
> bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with
5
> and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips
> and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated.
> Mike Holleman
>
>




RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-06 Thread Tigergutt









Mike,

 

Isn’t so that a 68/72 rear is two
inches shorter than the 64/67 ones or was it two inches wider
 

Sorry but I cant remember, 



 

 

Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind
Regards/Cordiali Saluti

 

André Broe Jensen



 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Holleman
Sent: 6. desember 2003 02:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing
a 12 bolt

 



Anybody know of a good
source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring  my 12 bolt
down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report
on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and
I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of
backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in
the process. Any guidance will be appreciated.





Mike Holleman










RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-05 Thread Herb Lumpp
Hi Mike,

Since I sold you my wheels, I kinda feel responsible to help you make them
fit!  If you can't find anyone local to modify your 12 bolt, try Moser
Engineering.  They're in Portland, Indiana so shipping shouldn't be too bad.
This link has a list of their shop services and prices...

http://www.moserengineering.com/moser_interior/shopservices.htm

BTW, I thought you were going to get the Tempest done before you start on
the Elky?  You're as bad as I am!  :)  I can't wait to see your '65 with
those wheels!

Herb


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Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt


Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need
to bring  my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a
good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12
bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5
and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips
and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated.
Mike Holleman




[Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt

2003-12-05 Thread Mike Holleman



Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 
bolt? I need to bring  my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone 
has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the 
help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch 
wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the 
c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be 
appreciated.
Mike Holleman