Re: [Chevelle-list] starter & starter wirin

2007-10-27 Thread John Nasta 

Thanks Rick,

I saved those instructions. The new starter is in and working fine w/  
no shims. I have not been noticing any odd wear patterns on the bendix  
gears or trouble engaging the flexplate, but I'll keep an eye out for  
that if I get a starter that lasts long enough.


John


Quoting Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


  John
  You may have gotten an instruction sheet with the new starter, but if not,
here is an easy method for shimming it correctly.
http://macc.chevelles.net/starter.htm  Worked very well for me.


On 10/27/07, Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


John, for temporary use, find a suitable size can (coffee,etc.) and trim
to fit over the starter. This will reflect the heat, it just looks bad.

 Brian

> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:52:09 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] starter & starter wiring
>
> Thanks Herb,
>
> I think you're right. That would explain why replacing the starter
> fixes the problem for a while.
>
> I have a Flowmaster kit on it and I was thinking while I was poking
> around in there yesterday that the exhaust is very close to the starter.
>
> I'll check on that spring on Monday. Do you happen to have a part
number?
>
> The Ford solenoid does have it's advantages, but I have to move this
> car by Monday or I'll get a ticket. No time for mail order. I'll hold
> onto the info.
>
> Would it help to put some kind of heat tape on the exhaust pipe?
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Herb Lumpp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > John,
> >
> > If you're having a hot start problem it's because the exhaust is
cooking the
> > solenoid. There are a couple of ways that I know of to fix this...
> >
> > 1. Replace the solenoid spring with a low tension spring (Chevy
dealer).
> > When the solenoid gets hot it draws too many amps for the battery to
> > support. By using a low tension spring, the hot solenoid can compress
it
> > easier.
> >
> > Or,
> >
> > 2. You can convert your starter to work with a Ford solenoid. MAD
Electric
> > sells the kit... http://www.madelectrical.com/catalog/st-1.shtml
> >
> > Have fun and good luck.
> >
> > Herb
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta
> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:05 AM
> > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] starter & starter wiring
> >
> > Thanks. These have been rebuilt starters. They work fine until I try
to
> > start it while hot. The one in July fried when I shut it off to get
gas and
> > tried to restart. The last one fried when I shut it off and then
realized I
> > was not in a legal parking space and tried to restart.
> >
> > I spun the flexplate yesterday and did not see any bad teeth on it. I
am not
> > using any shims. However, I have to question whether it could be a
physical
> > problem like that because the thing that seems to be fatal is trying
to
> > start it when hot. Also, changing the starter seems to fix the
problem.
> >
> > I'm also wondering if pulling current directly off of the battery is
sending
> > too much amperage to the starter. Don't know enough about electricity
to
> > know if that's possible. I always thought that a thing would only draw
as
> > much as it can draw, and there is no such thing as too much available
> > amperage.
> >
> > Of course this always has to be fixed when it's raining. I'll be
buying
> > another starter today and I'll let you know what happens, other than
me
> > getting wet.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> >
> >> In a message dated 10/26/2007 3:22:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I'm having some bad luck w/ starters
> >>
> >> what brand is the starter?? i have had that happen with rebuilt ones,
i
> >> switched (actually the store where i bought them "upgraded" me to a
> >> A/C after i
> >> brought about 6 of the others back) to a new A/C brand and everything
> >> was ok
> >>
> >> Harlan
> >>
> >>
> >> **
> >> See what's new at
> >> http://www.aol.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Chevelle-list] starter & starter wirin

2007-10-27 Thread Rick Schaefer 
  John
  You may have gotten an instruction sheet with the new starter, but if not,
here is an easy method for shimming it correctly.
http://macc.chevelles.net/starter.htm  Worked very well for me.


On 10/27/07, Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John, for temporary use, find a suitable size can (coffee,etc.) and trim
> to fit over the starter. This will reflect the heat, it just looks bad.
>
>  Brian
>
> > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:52:09 -0700
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] starter & starter wiring
> >
> > Thanks Herb,
> >
> > I think you're right. That would explain why replacing the starter
> > fixes the problem for a while.
> >
> > I have a Flowmaster kit on it and I was thinking while I was poking
> > around in there yesterday that the exhaust is very close to the starter.
> >
> > I'll check on that spring on Monday. Do you happen to have a part
> number?
> >
> > The Ford solenoid does have it's advantages, but I have to move this
> > car by Monday or I'll get a ticket. No time for mail order. I'll hold
> > onto the info.
> >
> > Would it help to put some kind of heat tape on the exhaust pipe?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Herb Lumpp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > If you're having a hot start problem it's because the exhaust is
> cooking the
> > > solenoid. There are a couple of ways that I know of to fix this...
> > >
> > > 1. Replace the solenoid spring with a low tension spring (Chevy
> dealer).
> > > When the solenoid gets hot it draws too many amps for the battery to
> > > support. By using a low tension spring, the hot solenoid can compress
> it
> > > easier.
> > >
> > > Or,
> > >
> > > 2. You can convert your starter to work with a Ford solenoid. MAD
> Electric
> > > sells the kit... http://www.madelectrical.com/catalog/st-1.shtml
> > >
> > > Have fun and good luck.
> > >
> > > Herb
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:05 AM
> > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] starter & starter wiring
> > >
> > > Thanks. These have been rebuilt starters. They work fine until I try
> to
> > > start it while hot. The one in July fried when I shut it off to get
> gas and
> > > tried to restart. The last one fried when I shut it off and then
> realized I
> > > was not in a legal parking space and tried to restart.
> > >
> > > I spun the flexplate yesterday and did not see any bad teeth on it. I
> am not
> > > using any shims. However, I have to question whether it could be a
> physical
> > > problem like that because the thing that seems to be fatal is trying
> to
> > > start it when hot. Also, changing the starter seems to fix the
> problem.
> > >
> > > I'm also wondering if pulling current directly off of the battery is
> sending
> > > too much amperage to the starter. Don't know enough about electricity
> to
> > > know if that's possible. I always thought that a thing would only draw
> as
> > > much as it can draw, and there is no such thing as too much available
> > > amperage.
> > >
> > > Of course this always has to be fixed when it's raining. I'll be
> buying
> > > another starter today and I'll let you know what happens, other than
> me
> > > getting wet.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > >
> > >> In a message dated 10/26/2007 3:22:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I'm having some bad luck w/ starters
> > >>
> > >> what brand is the starter?? i have had that happen with rebuilt ones,
> i
> > >> switched (actually the store where i bought them "upgraded" me to a
> > >> A/C after i
> > >> brought about 6 of the others back) to a new A/C brand and everything
> > >> was ok
> > >>
> > >> Harlan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> **
> > >> See what's new at
> > >> http://www.aol.com
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> 'em!
>



-- 
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72 TPI El Camino