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yeah i love the speed and all, but what i didnt mention was that fact that when im super nervous, my legs shake really badly. I had a jacket around my legs the whole time. Not necessarily driving stupid was a blast, people i was with made it fun.
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At 05:35 PM 07/17/2002 -0500, you wrote: Well, I'm almost 56 and I got a ~learner's permit~ when I was 16. I could drive, during daylight hours only, with a licensed driver in the car...and that was 40 years ago in Kansas City. I couldn't even ride a MoPed (anyone remember those) legally at 16. Only Old Farts like us.. I had a Sears MoPed, but here in TX at 14 you could drive a motor scooter/moped - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tom, I completly agree with you. My Dad told me right when I got my license that everybody at 16-17 thinks they know how to drive, or can take thier car to the max. I always kept this in the back of my head. Tonight for example, Im with my friend Ryan. We are in a 1992 Ford Taurus. We are blowing through stop signs, going over 100MPH, chasing some truck around. Sure I had a blast, but when we were talking about it afterwards, He was saying "Oh I know the limits of the car." Knowing the limits is one thing, but road conditions, tempature, etc, all play a big part. Im 17, and I NEVER drive fast in my Chevelle unless Im on the freeway and there is nobody there and I have the gas and money or whatever. Even when Im feeling confident in myself at whatever unsafe thing I do, I always here my Dad telling me that. The only problem with changing the law to 18, would be getting to school and work. Perhaps a work and school license only till 18. I know that my Dad isnt just pulling this knowl! edge out of thin air. I dont want to screw up, or wreck my Chevelle. I listen to him, because its his choice to let me drive. Not my decision. -Tim 1966 Chevelle
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In a message dated 07/18/2002 6:03:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are in a 1992 Ford Taurus. We are blowing through stop signs, going over 100MPH, chasing some truck around. Sure I had a blast, but when we were talking about it afterwards, He was saying Oh I know the limits of the car. I bet your friend never had his brake system fail huh? Or something totally outside his control happen while driving? He will live and learn, and hopefully it is not at someone else's expense. Its funny how young people's attitude changes once they become parents themselves - Kurt Ehrhardt ACES #1280 66 Malibu 66 SuperSport Enfield, CT - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 06:47 AM 07/18/2002 -0500, you wrote: Tonight for example, Im with my friend Ryan. We are in a 1992 Ford Taurus. We are blowing through stop signs, going over 100MPH, chasing some truck around. Sure I had a blast, I'd be thinkin' twice about hangin' with an idiot like thathe'll get you killed. but when we were talking about it afterwards, He was saying Oh I know the limits of the car. Yeah right, if he did he wouldn't be doin' crap like that and putting your life at risk. Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com And if another kid just like him was blowing through stop signs, at over 100MPH at the same time going the other way Ya'll would have found out the limits of both cars - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've investigated three fatal accidents this year along in my area. Not a pretty site. I can tell you one thing, the worst part of my job is going to a home and tell a wife and her two year old boy that daddy won't being coming home tonight. THINK ABOUT IT...is it that much fun Craig 69SS - Original Message - From: Dan Raburn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety I took a ride with a friend like that about 20 years ago. Cost me 152 stitches in my face and 3 knee surgeries. Dan Raburn "Kelly C. Hanna" wrote: Tonight for example, Im with my friend Ryan. We are in a 1992 Ford Taurus. We are blowing through stop signs, going over 100MPH, chasing some truck around. Sure I had a blast,I'd be thinkin' twice about hangin' with an idiot like thathe'll get you killed.but when we were talking about it afterwards, He was saying "Oh I know the limits of the car."Yeah right, if he did he wouldn't be doin' crap like that and putting your life at risk. Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
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Good morning All, it is with much dismay, that im selling my HeavyChevy, i thought id let you guys/girls get the news first no reasonable offer will be refused, theres a couple of pics at Dales place, i can send more upon request, trying to buy a house and need the for the down payment, thanks for any inquirements. KenD,72HeavyChevyChevelle
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I had a friend that rolled his 69 Charger the day after he successfully ran from the police the night before. He never drove like that again because after he got his license back, he was scared to death to drive fast anymore. My respect goes out to the guys that have to deal with accidents on a daily basis and can still go to work the next day. Its gotta be hard thinking you won't make someone slow down and think, before they kill someone else, or themselves. crobertson1 wrote: I've investigated three fatal accidents this year along in my area. Not a pretty site. I can tell you one thing, the worst part of my job is going to a home and tell a wife and her two year old boy that daddy won't being coming home tonight. THINK ABOUT IT...is it that much fun Craig69SS - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry you have to sell her Ken How do you get to Dales Place to see photos? Paul O'Brien 84 El Camino SS NECOA #125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning All, it is with much dismay, that im selling my HeavyChevy, i thought id let you guys/girls get the news first no reasonable offer will be refused, theres a couple of pics at Dales place, i can send more upon request, trying to buy a house and need the for the down payment, thanks for any inquirements. KenD,72HeavyChevyChevelle - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My son who is 16 and just starting to get his permit, is an ems. He has been to 2 accidents whre he knew the kids, one of whichdied. He is not in a big hurry to get a license. Jim Buckingham - Original Message - From: Paul O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety I had a friend that rolled his 69 Charger the day after he successfully ran from the police the night before. He never drove like that again because after he got his license back, he was scared to death to drive fast anymore. My respect goes out to the guys that have to deal with accidents on a daily basis and can still go to work the next day. Its gotta be hard thinking you won't make someone slow down and think, before they kill someone else, or themselves. crobertson1 wrote: I've investigated three fatal accidents this year along in my area. Not a pretty site. I can tell you one thing, the worst part of my job is going to a home and tell a wife and her two year old boy that daddy won't being coming home tonight. THINK ABOUT IT...is it that much fun Craig69SS - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Don't do it! Find another way! Stuff envelopes or something. Having been one a the rare lucky ones to get my SS back after 14 years I hate to see them go for down payments on anything.G Good Luck, JD Hall - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Good morning All,it is with much dismay, that im selling my HeavyChevy, i thought id let you guys/girls get the news first no reasonable offer will be refused, theres a couple of pics at Dales place, i can send more upon request, trying to buy a house and need the for the down payment, thanks for any inquirements.KenD,72HeavyChevyChevelle
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At 01:01 PM 07/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: Don't do it! Find another way! Stuff envelopes or something. Having been one a the rare lucky ones to get my SS back after 14 years I hate to see them go for down payments on anything.G Good Luck, JD Hall I agree IFyou really love the car you will hate yourself forever, as I do for selling my 64 Vette Conv, 365 HP 327 4 speed. Got $1700.00 for it, that was in 1970. There ain't a day I wake up kick my ass... But at the time I was trying to start my machine shop needed the $$. Still in business now, but still hate myself. Think long hard about it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I know this. This is why I never hang out with him. He drives crazy as crap. Only going 100MPH on the freeway, not that it matters, and we were just in the neighborhood, not that it mattered. Now you guys know why I always take my own car or truck when going to his house. Craig, it wasnt that fun, as it would of been me at the drag strip drag racing. He was totally pumped up, thought it was cool, when I know his day will come, because that Taurus isnt made to be driven like that. Im not going to say I know the limits of my Chevelle, But I know it well enough to know those four wheel non-power discs brakes cant ever stop me fast enough. Again, there is the reason I drive 60-65 on the freeway, and always go the speed limit on the streets. I never drive crazy like he does. I have paitence driving. Hes also one of those people thats always 5 minutes late. Im! always 5 or 10 minutes early. In a message dated 7/18/2002 4:49:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tonight for example, Im with my friend Ryan. We are in a 1992 Ford Taurus. We are blowing through stop signs, going over 100MPH, chasing some truck around. Sure I had a blast, I'd be thinkin' twice about hangin' with an idiot like thathe'll get you killed. but when we were talking about it afterwards, He was saying "Oh I know the limits of the car." Yeah right, if he did he wouldn't be doin' crap like that and putting your life at risk. Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com -Tim 1966 Chevelle
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Click http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/gallery/gallery.htm then the ~1972~ link. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul O'Brien Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Sorry you have to sell her Ken How do you get to Dales Place to see photos? Paul O'Brien 84 El Camino SS NECOA #125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning All, it is with much dismay, that im selling my HeavyChevy, i thought id let you guys/girls get the news first no reasonable offer will be refused, theres a couple of pics at Dales place, i can send more upon request, trying to buy a house and need the for the down payment, thanks for any inquirements. KenD,72HeavyChevyChevelle - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree IFyou really love the car you will hate yourself forever, as I do for selling my 64 Vette Conv, 365 HP 327 4 speed. Got $1700.00 for it, that was in 1970. There ain't a day I wake up kick my ass... Boy Dave, for an OF, you're pretty limber if you can do that! I can hardly jog my memory in the morning. :*) Dale - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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but you said you had a blast... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety I know this. This is why I never hang out with him. He drives crazy as crap. Only going 100MPH on the freeway, not that it matters, and we were just in the neighborhood, not that it mattered. Now you guys know why I always take my own car or truck when going to his house. Craig, it wasnt that fun, as it would of been me at the drag strip drag racing. He was totally pumped up, thought it was cool, when I know his day will come, because that Taurus isnt made to be driven like that. Im not going to say I know the limits of my Chevelle, But I know it well enough to know those four wheel non-power discs brakes cant ever stop me fast enough. Again, there is the reason I drive 60-65 on the freeway, and always go the speed limit on the streets. I never drive crazy like he does. I have paitence driving. Hes also one of those people thats always 5 minutes late. Im! always 5 or 10 minutes early. In a message dated 7/18/2002 4:49:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tonight for example, Im with myfriend Ryan. We are in a 1992 Ford Taurus. We are blowing through stop signs, going over 100MPH, chasing some truckaround. Sure I had a blast,I'd be thinkin' twice about hangin' with an idiot like thathe'll get you killed.but when we were talking about it afterwards, He was saying "Oh I know the limits of thecar."Yeah right, if he did he wouldn't be doin' crap like that and putting your life at risk.Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com -Tim1966 Chevelle
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Hey. Thanks for the link! On the website, there is a picture labeled Del Woodcock. I am curious what type of wheels those are. Can you help me out? Thanks Brenna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 396guy Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Click http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/gallery/gallery.htm then the ~1972~ link. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul O'Brien Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Sorry you have to sell her Ken How do you get to Dales Place to see photos? Paul O'Brien 84 El Camino SS NECOA #125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning All, it is with much dismay, that im selling my HeavyChevy, i thought id let you guys/girls get the news first no reasonable offer will be refused, theres a couple of pics at Dales place, i can send more upon request, trying to buy a house and need the for the down payment, thanks for any inquirements. KenD,72HeavyChevyChevelle - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I was very lucky that this was a small town cop that would rather scare the crap out of me then necesarrily prosecute. He knew I was scared when he came up to the car and I think my cooperation did ease me getting off with my license still. Although it did take me about 6 months to actually drive again because I was dropped from my insurance and couldn't get any anywhere. Mikey holy god - 132 mph? im suprised you DID NOT lose your liscense! wow, a =lot of money in fines back then, wasnt it?=20 Chad
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Being a cop today is a tough job. Unfortunetly I think besides getting a bad rep from the 3% who break the rules, that also the increased need for them has led to many of the wrong types of people/personalities to get in to the field. It seems alot of officer these days want to make arrests and TELL people how to live and do things, rather then ENFORCE the rules and remember they are not some high almight being. That's just my $.02 worth on the situation, but no matter what type of officer... I'm glad they do their job because I don't think I could do it. Mikey Having been a cop for 20 years now, I remember those "good ol days". =Some were better, some worse.. than today. Different world now.Don MMM the good old days when cops were allowed to be cops. I bet nobody =taped the arrest either did they. That ought to start something! Lance UT-OHHH DUCK FOR COVER!!
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Oh no...Don't do it!If there's any other alternate route - take it!You will be too upset... :( We lost a fortune on the East Texas house, so I went for two loans (one at a higher rate for the down payment)try this avenuedon't sell the car Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
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Don't know for sure. Del used to hang out here but haven't seen him lately. They look like the old style Ansen Sprint slotted mags to me, but polished. I don't think Ansen is in business anymore but it was a popular style. Fenton was another company that made wheels in the 60's and 70's. Best bet would be to check local shopper type car papers or even eBay. Good luck, Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brenna Olwine Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 8:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Hey. Thanks for the link! On the website, there is a picture labeled Del Woodcock. I am curious what type of wheels those are. Can you help me out? Thanks Brenna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 396guy Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Click http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/gallery/gallery.htm then the ~1972~ link. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul O'Brien Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Sorry you have to sell her Ken How do you get to Dales Place to see photos? Paul O'Brien 84 El Camino SS NECOA #125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning All, it is with much dismay, that im selling my HeavyChevy, i thought id let you guys/girls get the news first no reasonable offer will be refused, theres a couple of pics at Dales place, i can send more upon request, trying to buy a house and need the for the down payment, thanks for any inquirements. KenD,72HeavyChevyChevelle - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh no...Don't do it!If there's any other alternate route - take it!You will be too upset... :( We lost a fortune on the East Texas house, so I went for two loans (one at a higher rate for the down payment)try this avenuedon't sell the car Any questions?
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Thanks! I will check into those leads. I am having trouble finding wheels that I like. I have been looking for something similar to those, but not polished. Those caught my eye as a definite possibility. B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 396guy Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 8:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Don't know for sure. Del used to hang out here but haven't seen him lately. They look like the old style Ansen Sprint slotted mags to me, but polished. I don't think Ansen is in business anymore but it was a popular style. Fenton was another company that made wheels in the 60's and 70's. Best bet would be to check local shopper type car papers or even eBay. Good luck, Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brenna Olwine Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 8:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Hey. Thanks for the link! On the website, there is a picture labeled Del Woodcock. I am curious what type of wheels those are. Can you help me out? Thanks Brenna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 396guy Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Click http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/gallery/gallery.htm then the ~1972~ link. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul O'Brien Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Sorry you have to sell her Ken How do you get to Dales Place to see photos? Paul O'Brien 84 El Camino SS NECOA #125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning All, it is with much dismay, that im selling my HeavyChevy, i thought id let you guys/girls get the news first no reasonable offer will be refused, theres a couple of pics at Dales place, i can send more upon request, trying to buy a house and need the for the down payment, thanks for any inquirements. KenD,72HeavyChevyChevelle - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, I'm almost 56 and I got a ~learner's permit~ when I was 16. I could drive, during daylight hours only, with a licensed driver in the car...and that was 40 years ago in Kansas City. Icouldn't even ride a MoPed (anyone remember those) legally at 16. I'm sure different states have different laws by now but I'd go for 16 under the same restrictions and possibly a daytime only (and alone) license with the completion and passing of a high school or Votech type school driver's education class. Dale -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad PlaysoSent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:35 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Saftey dude - thats offensive! im 15 and i just CANNOT wait till i drive when im 16 - and then now you say that you want the driving age to be 18! how did you feel when u started driving? - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Saftey How about the fact that they pretty much give driver's licenses away in a box of Cracker Jacks these days. I work about a mile from a driver's exam station and it is easy to find, but the number of brain dead morons, lazy people who don't want to take the energy to look at a map (or the road for signs for that matter),or people who can't speak english asking for it is unreal. I say "hey... if you can't find the driver's exam station you already fail map reading, trip preperation, and sign reading. You fail." IMO I would raise the driving age for lic. to 18 and keep permits or restricted lic. at 16. And make a real driving test to pass. I mean fake kids on bikes flying out from bushes and idiot driver's going through stop lights on their cell phone heheee. Mikey - Original Message - From: Chevelle 69 Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Saftey Which brings up a thought or two: We, the people that, in most cases, turn wrenches on these cars, lift heavy metal parts on and off, install glass as needed, and know from life's experiences what can happen, have more of a close "in-touch"relationship with cars.We have more of a realization of several thousand pounds of glass and metal flying down the road at speeds unknown to man just a hundred years ago. Although some of us are guilty of indulging in the thrill that a muscle car is so famous for, and I can't say I won't ever myself. I guess it's like rock climbing or parachuting..with added dangers for innocent bystanders and precious classic cars that may not survive to be passed on. Compare that to a young person ( and some older ones ) who only think to get in, turn the key, and press the pedal farther down to hurry up to get to an "important appointment". I know that accidents were stressed to me in drivers training many years ago, but people tendto think it won't happen to them and what can happen if they are not careful goes to the back of the mind. Getting there quickly while doing other things that "need" to get done are what is on their mind. The thought of the car I am rebuilding not having many of the safety features of today's cars also plays on my mind at times. More than once I have wondered what it would take to install anti-lock brakesand air bags on my 69 Chevelle. Steve - I agree too! BUT, I've seen people reading newspapers, shaving, putting on make-up, eating two-fisted hoagies, etc. while behind the wheel. A lot of people are just plain oblivious to the dangers of distraction behind the wheel. My point is where do you stop? The starting point should, in my opinion, be better driver ed programs.
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In Pennsylvania you can get your driving permit at 16. You are permitted to drive only with a licensed adult drive up to 10 PM. Upon passing your driving test you may drive alone up to 11 PM until your 18th birthday. If you go through an approved driving school you may apply to get your full license 6 months before your 18th birthday. Provide you have no accidents, citations or moving violations of any kind. There was talk about raising the permit and license age to 18but I am not sure of the out come of that. Something I do like about Pa law. If your under age and caught drinking, you lose your driving privileges as part of the fine / punishment. Enjoy Wayne 66 SS -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 396guySent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:36 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Safety Well, I'm almost 56 and I got a ~learner's permit~ when I was 16. I could drive, during daylight hours only, with a licensed driver in the car...and that was 40 years ago in Kansas City. Icouldn't even ride a MoPed (anyone remember those) legally at 16. I'm sure different states have different laws by now but I'd go for 16 under the same restrictions and possibly a daytime only (and alone) license with the completion and passing of a high school or Votech type school driver's education class. Dale -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad PlaysoSent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:35 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Saftey dude - thats offensive! im 15 and i just CANNOT wait till i drive when im 16 - and then now you say that you want the driving age to be 18! how did you feel when u started driving? - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Saftey How about the fact that they pretty much give driver's licenses away in a box of Cracker Jacks these days. I work about a mile from a driver's exam station and it is easy to find, but the number of brain dead morons, lazy people who don't want to take the energy to look at a map (or the road for signs for that matter),or people who can't speak english asking for it is unreal. I say "hey... if you can't find the driver's exam station you already fail map reading, trip preperation, and sign reading. You fail." IMO I would raise the driving age for lic. to 18 and keep permits or restricted lic. at 16. And make a real driving test to pass. I mean fake kids on bikes flying out from bushes and idiot driver's going through stop lights on their cell phone heheee. Mikey - Original Message - From: Chevelle 69 Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car Saftey Which brings up a thought or two: We, the people that, in most cases, turn wrenches on these cars, lift heavy metal parts on and off, install glass as needed, and know from life's experiences what can happen, have more of a close "in-touch"relationship with cars.We have more of a realization of several thousand pounds of glass and metal flying down the road at speeds unknown to man just a hundred years ago. Although some of us are guilty of indulging in the thrill that a muscle car is so famous for, and I can't say I won't ever myself. I guess it's like rock climbing or parachuting..with added dangers for innocent bystanders and precious classic cars that may not survive to be passed on. Compare that to a young person ( and some older ones ) who only think to get in, turn the key, and press the pedal farther down to hurry up to get to an "important appointment". I know that accidents were stressed to me in drivers training many years ago, but people tendto think it won't happen to them and what can happen if they are not careful goes to the back of the mind. Getting there quickly while doing other things that "need" to get done are what is on their mind. The thought of the car I am rebuilding not having many of the safety features of today's cars also plays on my mind at times. More than once I have wondered what it would take to install anti-lock brakesand air bags on my 69 Che
