RE: [Chevelle-List] Rear axle swap...
Title: RE: [Chevelle-List] Rear axle swap... Thanks for the info Rick, I don't know the damage yet but my mechanic told me that if the axle was pitted or grooved, I would need a new one. I'll ask him about that axle saver, that could save some $. BTW, this is going to be a daily driver, so the axle saver mite be good enough for me. JM 69 Elky -- From: richard a schaefer[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear axle swap... Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:41:31 -0500 "Morris, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Got a call from my mechanic, it seems that the rear axle > bearing in> my 69 Elky may have gone dry. He said that there is oil in the > passenger> side brake drum and I may have to replace the rear axle. If so can > anyone> tell me what axles can be swapped (i.e. chevelle, Monte, etc...). > Also is this a common problem or am I just the unlucky one. > Thanks > JM > 69 El Camino (work in progress) jason- There is a seal at the end of the axle tube that keeps the oil inside. Unless the axle shaft is boogered up, no need to replace it. Just replace the seal. Any 68-72 Chevelle, el camino or Monte Carlo axle should work, EXCEPT I believe that there is a difference between 10 & 12 bolt rear axles. Get the correct one. Are you redoing the el camino as a daily driver or racer? IF its only gonna see a very mild motor, you can have him install "Axle saver bearings" . The axle usually gets boogered at the bearing, the axle saver moves the bearing race outboard a bit to a good axle surface. Replacing the axle for this type problem is relatively common, someone did create the axle saver for that problem. rick - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear axle swap...
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I was refering to the axle. But yes, no point in going in without replacing both the bearing & seal. rick On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:31:13 -0400 "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Sorry Richard, but this is incomplete advice. He should replace both > the > bearing and the seal. Usually if the seal is bad the bearing is too. > When > the bearing is bad, the weight of the car puts excessive pressure on > one > side of the seal. Some times the metal part of the seal just outside > the > rubber area will even go out of round because the axle is no longer > centered > in the seal. This is why it leaks. You don't get a good seal when > the axle > is not centered in the hole. If he just replaces the seal, it will > probably > just get wiped out again. This is a cheap and easy job to do, and > there's no > reason to do it half way. > > -Original Message- > Unless the axle shaft is boogered up, no need to replace it. > Just replace the seal. > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Rear axle swap...
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Sorry Richard, but this is incomplete advice. He should replace both the bearing and the seal. Usually if the seal is bad the bearing is too. When the bearing is bad, the weight of the car puts excessive pressure on one side of the seal. Some times the metal part of the seal just outside the rubber area will even go out of round because the axle is no longer centered in the seal. This is why it leaks. You don't get a good seal when the axle is not centered in the hole. If he just replaces the seal, it will probably just get wiped out again. This is a cheap and easy job to do, and there's no reason to do it half way. -Original Message- Unless the axle shaft is boogered up, no need to replace it. Just replace the seal. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Rear axle swap...
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Oil gets into the drum when the seal goes bad. Usually the seal goes bad when the axle bearing goes bad. However, IMO it is highly unlikely that you need a new axle. The only reasons you would need a whole axle is if the bearing was completely frozen and managed to cut a groove in the axle, or if the axle somehow got bent (extremely unlikely unless it's been hit). These bearings and seals are extremely easy to replace. I would recommend either getting a second opinion or trying to do it yourself. If you don't own a slap hammer, you can take the drum off, turn it around, and put it on backwards with enough slack so that the drum can move back and forth a bit to create the slapping action. Just make sure you have caught enough threads on the lug nuts so that the nut won't strip off. For some seals, you need a tool called either a ladyfinger or lady slipper. You can also make one of these out of a toggle bolt from a hardware store (used to hang heavy objects on sheetrock, has a metal "butterfly" piece that springs out after it's inserted in the hole). You usually have to un-bolt the brake backing plate before you can pull the axle. Some axles have C-clips in the pumpkin, which also have to be removed before you can pull the axle, and should always be replaced with brand new ones. You'll have to take it to an auto parts store that does light machine work to have the old bearing pressed off and the new one pressed on. If you get a service manual, the whole procedure should be in there. It should take you about a half hour tops. You probably should do both sides, especially because the car is new to you and you don't know when the other was replaced last. Usually if one is old the other is too, although some people only replace one at a time to save a few dollars. As far as this being a "common" problem, it is the natural result of wear on a moving part. It is not unusual. I also have a 69 El Camino, but haven't touched the rear yet, so unfortunately I don't know the exact setup. If you live near me (NYC or Long Island area), I'd be willing to stop by and show you how to do it, unless you need it done immediately. John -Original Message- Got a call from my mechanic, it seems that the rear axle bearing in my 69 Elky may have gone dry. He said that there is oil in the passenger side brake drum and I may have to replace the rear axle. If so can anyone tell me what axles can be swapped (i.e. chevelle, Monte, etc...). Also is this a common problem or am I just the unlucky one. Thanks JM 69 El Camino (work in progress) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear axle swap...
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Jason, In addition to the Chevelle, Monte, and El Camino, you can also use rearends from the Olds Cutlass / 442, Buick Skylark / Special / GS, Pontiac GTO / Lemans, or any other A-body. You should try to get a rearend from a '68 to '72, but you can also use a '65 to '67 however they are 1" narrower. -Bob Cunningham > On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:41:31 -0500 "Morris, Jason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Got a call from my mechanic, it seems that the rear axle > > bearing in> my 69 Elky may have gone dry. He said that there is oil in > the > > passenger> side brake drum and I may have to replace the rear axle. If > so can > > anyone> tell me what axles can be swapped (i.e. chevelle, Monte, > etc...). > > Also is this a common problem or am I just the unlucky one. > > Thanks > > JM > > 69 El Camino (work in progress) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear axle swap...
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:41:31 -0500 "Morris, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Got a call from my mechanic, it seems that the rear axle > bearing in> my 69 Elky may have gone dry. He said that there is oil in the > passenger> side brake drum and I may have to replace the rear axle. If so can > anyone> tell me what axles can be swapped (i.e. chevelle, Monte, etc...). > Also is this a common problem or am I just the unlucky one. > Thanks > JM > 69 El Camino (work in progress) jason- There is a seal at the end of the axle tube that keeps the oil inside. Unless the axle shaft is boogered up, no need to replace it. Just replace the seal.Any 68-72 Chevelle, el camino or Monte Carlo axle should work, EXCEPT I believe that there is a difference between 10 & 12 bolt rear axles. Get the correct one. Are you redoing the el camino as a daily driver or racer?IF its only gonna see a very mild motor, you can have him install "Axle saver bearings" . The axle usually gets boogered at the bearing, the axle saver moves the bearing race outboard a bit to a good axle surface. Replacing the axle for this type problem is relatively common, someone did create the axle saver for that problem. rick - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
