Re: [Chevelle-list] plastic media blasting
NAPA also carries it. It's called Triple Etch Metal Cleaner It under the Automotive Specialty Martin Senour Paints brand. Part number 6877. It's a spray on. Trooper - Original Message - From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] plastic media blasting > Diane, Ospho is but one brand of acidic rust converter. Basically phosphoric > acid. It treats and converts rust to iron oxide. Nothing works on rust as > good as sand blasting, but sand blasting turns big panels like hoods, trunk > lids, fenders etc. in to wavy junk. Media blasting removes the paint but not > the rust. So the next best way to deal with rust is to treat it, then sand > it, and seal it with etching primer before doing your body work,priming and > painting. Your paint store or parts store should have it. POR 15 has their > version, Metal Ready. > Mike > - Original Message - > From: "Diane Peppin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 6:53 PM > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] plastic media blasting > > > > Mike; > > Thanks for the advice.never heard of ospho, but I'm sure the paint > > store (ppg) will know what that is. Thanks! :-Diane > > > > > > > > ___ > > Chevelle-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net > > > ___ > Chevelle-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
Re: [Chevelle-list] plastic media blasting
Diane, Ospho is but one brand of acidic rust converter. Basically phosphoric acid. It treats and converts rust to iron oxide. Nothing works on rust as good as sand blasting, but sand blasting turns big panels like hoods, trunk lids, fenders etc. in to wavy junk. Media blasting removes the paint but not the rust. So the next best way to deal with rust is to treat it, then sand it, and seal it with etching primer before doing your body work,priming and painting. Your paint store or parts store should have it. POR 15 has their version, Metal Ready. Mike - Original Message - From: "Diane Peppin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] plastic media blasting > Mike; > Thanks for the advice.never heard of ospho, but I'm sure the paint > store (ppg) will know what that is. Thanks! :-Diane > > > > ___ > Chevelle-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Mike; Thanks for the advice.never heard of ospho, but I'm sure the paint store (ppg) will know what that is. Thanks! :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Thanks for all the responses. Sounds like $2500 is way too much to pay for stripping the car. I should look for another shop that can do it or look into all the good ideas from everyone. Soda blasting sounds interesting. I'll have to find out if someone does that in So Cal. I really need to decide how to proceed with the car at this point. Whether to totally strip the car down and take it off the frame or not. If I take it off the frame, then dipping the body sounds like a good option. I want to replace the body mounts and fully restore the chassis, but I was going to try to do it without lifting the body totally off. What has everyone else out there done? Thank everyone, Matt ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Diane, Treat the surface rust with ospho and then sand back to bare metal. Be sure to use etching primer on the bare metal to prevent new rust. It only takes a dusting of etching primer, not a solid coat. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: "Diane Peppin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] plastic media blasting > I've noticed some surface rust where I had sandblasted the top. What's > a good way to insure getting it all out before covering it? Thanks for > the help. Diane > > > > ___ > Chevelle-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Hey Kim, We were just talking about that at the shop today, what does one of those jewel's cost and what brand did you buy? Hell I started cutting a car up and went and bought a plasma cutter, just as well go all the way and get a soda blaster huh? LOL Thanks for any help you could give me. David Hardin Memphis, TN 67 Chevelle (2) 67 El Camino's
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I just bought a soda blaster. It uses baking soda, I haven't had a chance to get it going yet but the guy i bought it from said he got $500 to $700 for a complete body, you don't have to take the glass or chrome off the car, he said he would just open the doors, hang a blanket and then blow or vacuum the dust when done. The residue is harmless. I'm not sure about the blanket thing on my new interior but you might check out the differences between this and plastic media. Kim Gough 69 SS 502 ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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I've noticed some surface rust where I had sandblasted the top. What's a good way to insure getting it all out before covering it? Thanks for the help. Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Matt, I had my 65 El Camino media blasted. It cost me $600. Media blasting does not remove rust. Be sure you get to see the car before the etching primer is put on. Areas of rust need to be dealt with by one of several methods. If it gets covered up and you are unaware of it, the rust will come back to haunt you. $2500. is way too much for stripping a Chevelle. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: "Matthew Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] plastic media blasting > Hey Guys, > > Has anyone had their car media blasted? Considering having the entire body > of my '69 blasted. I have rust in the usual spots, bondo from old body > work, and who knows how many paint jobs on the car. The shop I'm > considering wants $2500. Does this seem right? > > Thanks! > Matt > > > ___ > Chevelle-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Matt; Yes, I sandblasted my chevelle. I begged the man to "go light and easy" I've never noticed a ripple in the panels, but it hasn't been painted yet. I am still cleaning sand out of it. I had it done for $150. of course there was no front clip or engine in it then. personally media blasting is supposed to be gentler on the car. But I really can't complain; It came out okay. :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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For that kind of money you can have it dipped and E-coated. That's the option I'm looking at. All other options will not get all the sleeping rust. JDHall - Original Message - From: "Matthew Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] plastic media blasting > Thanks for the responses guys. Sounds like it's the most expensive > option. Has anyone actually done it though? With chemical dipping, the > entire body would have to be disassembled and what about residual chemicals > in seams etc? I've heard you shouldn't sandblast a body cause of the > heat. The appeal of plastic media is that the body can be on the frame > with the windows still in etc. It's seems very expensive though. > > Thank guys! > Matt > > > ___ > Chevelle-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net > ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Thanks for the responses guys. Sounds like it's the most expensive option. Has anyone actually done it though? With chemical dipping, the entire body would have to be disassembled and what about residual chemicals in seams etc? I've heard you shouldn't sandblast a body cause of the heat. The appeal of plastic media is that the body can be on the frame with the windows still in etc. It's seems very expensive though. Thank guys! Matt ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Seems a great deal pricey to me. I had a chassis sandblasted the other day and powdercoated for 400.00 bucks, and I got a whole big block sand blasted for 40.00 dollars. 400.00-500.00 sounds a whole lot better to me. And if you really wanna get out cheaper like the guy said you can go and have it dipped or you can strip it yourself one saturday for much less. Just my opinion! David Hardin Memphis, TN 67 Chevelle 2-67 El Caminos
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Seems a bit pricey Matt. Scott 69 SS 396
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That sounds awful high to me,Matt. I'm not sure chemical stripping would cost that much and it's probably the best method. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Matthew Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hey Guys, > Has anyone had their car media blasted? Considering having the entire body > of my '69 blasted. I have rust in the usual spots, bondo from old body > work, and who knows how many paint jobs on the car. The shop I'm > considering wants $2500. Does this seem right? > Thanks! > Matt ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
