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21K , I am not a 70type guy but IMHO an undocumented car with NOM SB! and other sortcoming you made mention of . I would walk . just my .02 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed In a message dated 6/26/02 9:04:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if I'd pass on it, I'd just get more info and deal down to match the equipment. How much are they asking? 21K - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The guy sounds like a hammer mechanic to me. Run from this one, don't walk...RUN. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/26/02 11:13:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sounds like to me they are willing to cut corners and misrepresent certain items. If this is the case, who knows what else is wrong with the car that they're just not gonna mention unless you notice it. Just my $0.02 Yeah, I didn't get the feeling that he was telling me everything. Especially when I popped the hood and found a big mess. Rust running down the master cylinder. Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree with Dale. 396guy wrote: If he found the build sheet and you could verify it with the VIN, and from the description, turned the 21K around to 12Kmaybe. Better stuff out there I think even if you had to go to AZ or NM to find one. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 6:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed In a message dated 6/26/02 1:54:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For an undocumented, used to be a 454, now a 350, one of a kind hidden cowl induction hooded car.ya, I'd pass also. Now if he were to come up with a build sheet for an LS5, would it be...never mind, now that I think of it, I want a finished or (close to finished) car! Thanks to all for your help, it's really appreciated! Mark Los Angeles - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think the guy is trying to make a quick buck at someone else's expense. Awful lot of guys that way, they fix it good enough to fool some unsuspecting person and make some quick cash. I'd pass too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PASS that car isn't worth 10 k Larry (z)
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Sounds like the guy wants to take you for a ride!!! and it isn't in a 70 Chevelle lol KenD 72 HeavyChevyChevelle
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I know Jay has a lot of cars, but has anyone seen all of them? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/26/02 6:56:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought Southern California was home to ALL the good cars. The problem is they are sitting in Jay Leno's garage/warehouse. Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mark: I don't think so as just a few months ago there was a nice 71 SS 454 car here for 9500. It was far from mint but was all there and numbers correct. as far as I'm concerned he may as well sell it with no motor and it would be worth just about the same. He is pricing it right up there with a numbers matching car. I'm sure most in here would agree at 21 k it is way overpriced. Larry (z)
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Probably only his caretaker and insurance agent. LOL I saw an episode on My Classic Car where he took Dennis Gage on a ride in a Stanley Steamer. Jay has at least one good sized warehouse full of cars and shop equipment. I'll bet very few people have ever seen all his cars. I'm sure he has several being worked on and restored that we never get to see on TV. As far as Dennis Gage goes, I really wanna cut that queer mustache off his facebad! Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
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I can't say I wouldn't do the same if I had his kind of money. Well we can dream anyway. 396guy wrote: Probably only his caretaker and insurance agent. LOL I saw an episode on My Classic Car where he took Dennis Gage on a ride in a Stanley Steamer. Jay has at least one good sized warehouse full of cars and shop equipment. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul O'Brien Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed I know Jay has a lot of cars, but has anyone seen all of them? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/26/02 6:56:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought Southern California was home to ALL the good cars. The problem is they are sitting in Jay Leno's garage/warehouse. Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree, but I'd like to grab both sides and see if I can swing him around a few times first. As far as Dennis Gage goes, I really wanna cut that queer mustache off his facebad! Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
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OK, so yesterday, I drove the black Chevelle. I guess because of the 350 replacing the 454, it seems the front end is sitting high up in the air. Also, the steering feels pretty loose. The engine compartment is a mess and the car was sputtering and missing. No smoke though coming out of the exhaust. The current owner is looking for the build sheet. He says that if he finds it and it indicates an LS5, that you could buy an LS5 and have it stamped to match the numbers. And, he says that this is totally legal. Is this true? Seems at a minimum, unethical. It was kind of funny because he claimed it had a cowl induction hood. He was going to order cowl induction emblems to put on the hood. Only problem is that...no cowl induction, just a regular SS hood. So, looks like I have to pass on it. Whaddya think? Thanks, Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't know if I'd pass on it, I'd just get more info and deal down to match the equipment. How much are they asking? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so yesterday, I drove the black Chevelle. I guess because of the 350 replacing the 454, it seems the front end is sitting high up in the air. Also, the steering feels pretty loose. The engine compartment is a mess and the car was sputtering and missing. No smoke though coming out of the exhaust. The current owner is looking for the build sheet. He says that if he finds it and it indicates an LS5, that you could buy an LS5 and have it stamped to match the numbers. And, he says that this is totally legal. Is this true? Seems at a minimum, unethical. It was kind of funny because he claimed it had a cowl induction hood. He was going to order cowl induction emblems to put on the hood. Only problem is that...no cowl induction, just a regular SS hood. So, looks like I have to pass on it. Whaddya think? Thanks, Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 6/26/02 9:04:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if I'd pass on it, I'd just get more info and deal down to match the equipment. How much are they asking? 21K - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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21? OUCH!!! They would need to do some fixin, or price droppin if they can't explain the loose front end, etc. You might be getting into something you won't be happy with. You don't want to get hosed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/26/02 9:04:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if I'd pass on it, I'd just get more info and deal down to match the equipment. How much are they asking? 21K - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sounds like to me they are willing to cut corners and misrepresent certain items. If this is the case, who knows what else is wrong with the car that they're just not gonna mention unless you notice it. Just my $0.02 Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ - Original Message - From: Paul O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed 21? OUCH!!! They would need to do some fixin, or price droppin if they can't explain the loose front end, etc. You might be getting into something you won't be happy with. You don't want to get hosed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/26/02 9:04:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if I'd pass on it, I'd just get more info and deal down to match the equipment. How much are they asking? 21K - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OUCH... For an undocumented, used to be a 454, now a 350, one of a kind hidden cowl induction hooded car.ya, I'd pass also. Dan McIntosh 65 Malibu In a message dated 6/26/2002 9:26:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if I'd pass on it, I'd just get more info and deal down to match the equipment. How much are they asking? 21K -
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In a message dated 6/26/02 9:47:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You might be getting into something you won't be happy with. You don't want to get hosed. That is for sure! He is putting a new top on it and replacing carpet, armrests, and tuning it up. But, it is a black car with no air and that is a problem living in L. A. Also, the 350 in the 454 is a problem too, so, I guess I'll have to pass. It's so tempting though because I haven't seen many in the area and I really would like to avoid traveling to the East Coast. ( nothing against it, just a time issue) Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 6/26/02 11:13:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sounds like to me they are willing to cut corners and misrepresent certain items. If this is the case, who knows what else is wrong with the car that they're just not gonna mention unless you notice it. Just my $0.02 Yeah, I didn't get the feeling that he was telling me everything. Especially when I popped the hood and found a big mess. Rust running down the master cylinder. Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 6/26/02 1:54:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For an undocumented, used to be a 454, now a 350, one of a kind hidden cowl induction hooded car.ya, I'd pass also. Now if he were to come up with a build sheet for an LS5, would it be...never mind, now that I think of it, I want a finished or (close to finished) car! Thanks to all for your help, it's really appreciated! Mark Los Angeles - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If he found the build sheet and you could verify it with the VIN, and from the description, turned the 21K around to 12Kmaybe. Better stuff out there I think even if you had to go to AZ or NM to find one. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 6:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed In a message dated 6/26/02 1:54:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For an undocumented, used to be a 454, now a 350, one of a kind hidden cowl induction hooded car.ya, I'd pass also. Now if he were to come up with a build sheet for an LS5, would it be...never mind, now that I think of it, I want a finished or (close to finished) car! Thanks to all for your help, it's really appreciated! Mark Los Angeles - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i only have one word to say "PASS" Larry (z)
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PASS that car isn't worth 10 k Larry (z)
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In a message dated 6/26/02 5:09:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PASS that car isn't worth 10 k OK, let's say he did find the build sheet and it is an LS5, would it be worth 12K then? I'm not going to buy it, just trying to get an idea as to what it's really worth. Mark
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Did you say 21K ? 2.1K sounds more realistic. You should be able to get a fully done LS5 for 21k. And yes you are right - VERY unethical. rick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re:[Chevelle-List] Advice needed Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:40:39 EDT OK, so yesterday, I drove the black Chevelle. I guess because of the 350 replacing the 454, it seems the front end is sitting high up in the air. Also, the steering feels pretty loose. The engine compartment is a mess and the car was sputtering and missing. No smoke though coming out of the exhaust. The current owner is looking for the build sheet. He says that if he finds it and it indicates an LS5, that you could buy an LS5 and have it stamped to match the numbers. And, he says that this is totally legal. Is this true? Seems at a minimum, unethical. It was kind of funny because he claimed it had a cowl induction hood. He was going to order cowl induction emblems to put on the hood. Only problem is that...no cowl induction, just a regular SS hood. So, looks like I have to pass on it. Whaddya think? Thanks, Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 6/26/02 6:50:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you say 21K ? 2.1K sounds more realistic. You should be able to get a fully done LS5 for 21k. And yes you are right - VERY unethical. Convertible??? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Mark... I wouldn't buy the car as an investment cause obviously the original numbers matching motor is long gone. The original thing is kinda a toss up. 4 years ago I had an original 70 Z28 with the LT-1 and a muncie. 45,000 original miles... all original parts... starter, alt, rear, etc. Only thing missing were the original tires. The hiccup was the motor threw a rod 6 months after the original owner bought it. So it had a 71 date coded block with no other numbers casted in it that was put in by GM under warranty. I even had the receipt for that work. Now some guys looked at it and said... it isn't original doesn't have the numbers matching motor. Other guys didn't care about the numbers or date codes on the misc parts, but just the engine, tranny, and rear. Then there were a few guys who felt with all the paper work and documentation that the car was darn near one of a kind. I mean there aren't too many no number gm replacement blocks around. The fellow who purchased it felt it was a very interesting twist to make this low mileage Z28 unique. The show circuit... well there are plenty of cars that are totally not stock and modified taking home awards... you just won't be in the category as an orginal stock class. Sorry for the long winded-ness, but I think this story shows "original" is different for every collector. Some guys want proof that all the metal is even original. All and all... buy the car cause you like it! Awards come for a ton of different classes if that is your goal. If a pure original car is your goal... will just an LS5 spec 454 do... or are you a numbers matching kinda guy. Hope this gives you a bit to chew on... good luck w/ your decision. Mikey So, I found a Chevelle SS that is listed as an LS5. The original color isblue. But, it currently has a 350 and was repainted black. How would thiscar fare at shows? How would these changes effect the value of this car?Could you put in an LS5 and would that increase the value or would it matterbecause it wouldn't be the original engine? And is not having the originalcolor a problem?Thanks to all for all your help,Mark-To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.htmlTo start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]