Re: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash
Im like you Josh. Both have good and bad points. Ive got some drafting and design behind me, plus I was in a very bad wreck in a 70 chevelle. A woman ran a stop sign out in the middle of no where, i was running about 55-60 can you say sudden stop. The car might have went 30 foot. Broke the cars frame in half behind the front wheel on the drivers side. Peeled the front fender back like a bannana, i touched the front off the fender sitting in the car. The steering wheel was laying in my lap still atached to the colunm. Both cars were about the same size and weight. Her car went air bourne and did a 180, and they had to cut her out of her car. The roof of her car was like an A frame house. Thank the good lord my kids were not in the car they would have went through the wind sheild. The seat belt law was not manditory. I think it was mid 90s or early 90s. Im glad i was not in a small car. Point being there are alot of facters in any wreck, weight is a major facter, design is a major facter. I look at it like this the old cars has weight and the new cars have design plus technology. What i mean by weight is heavier metal used. Its how the facters line up. What i get upset about is the movie makers like conair destroying a corvette that i would love to have. At leased in the video it was to learn how to make cars safer for us. thanks guys Eddie Bumgarner Eddie Bumgarner 66ss conv. From: Josh Campbell To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:23:50 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash I have read up on this and yes it is a dirty rotten shame they would take such an awsome car and smash it all to hell and yes it can be debatable as the condition and such of both cars. BUT I do know from my experience as a trained bodyman (not ASE certified, didn't go through the added classes and went into another field altogether) I do know that a newer vehicle is safer than an older one, but that doesn't mean you can't make one safer. I personally know a guy that got into a pretty bad scrape when his 66 Impala was hit head on by a 90s Dodge Intrepid.. the Impala won, but his car was packing a fully boxed and welded frame, 6 point rollbar, and RCI harnesses. He walked away but the big Imp required a new frame, front clip, and untold hours on a frame rack. The Intrepid... didn't quite make it. When I wrecked my 66 it did well but it got me thinking more about the safety issues and I am still debating on at least a 4 point bar for safety's sake. You never know what idiot you will run into on the road. Well I've ranted enough, happy motoring. Josh Campbell 66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisserie, 1st car never part with it) 66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel) 87 Monte Carlo SS Sadly sold it guy offered me more than I thought it was worth 71 Malibu FOR SALE NEED MORE SPACE IN THE SHOP! You should never have a battle of wits with morons ... they'll just drag you down to their level & beat you with experience.
Re: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash
I have read up on this and yes it is a dirty rotten shame they would take such an awsome car and smash it all to hell and yes it can be debatable as the condition and such of both cars. BUT I do know from my experience as a trained bodyman (not ASE certified, didn't go through the added classes and went into another field altogether) I do know that a newer vehicle is safer than an older one, but that doesn't mean you can't make one safer. I personally know a guy that got into a pretty bad scrape when his 66 Impala was hit head on by a 90s Dodge Intrepid.. the Impala won, but his car was packing a fully boxed and welded frame, 6 point rollbar, and RCI harnesses. He walked away but the big Imp required a new frame, front clip, and untold hours on a frame rack. The Intrepid... didn't quite make it. When I wrecked my 66 it did well but it got me thinking more about the safety issues and I am still debating on at least a 4 point bar for safety's sake. You never know what idiot you will run into on the road. Well I've ranted enough, happy motoring. Josh Campbell 66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisserie, 1st car never part with it) 66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel) 87 Monte Carlo SS Sadly sold it guy offered me more than I thought it was worth 71 Malibu FOR SALE NEED MORE SPACE IN THE SHOP! You should never have a battle of wits with morons ... they'll just drag you down to their level & beat you with experience.
Re: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash
Kevin... Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler Grandpa To Many LOL --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Henry Kubacki wrote: From: Henry Kubacki Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 12:07 AM Exactly what I meant. Just in a more "Polite" way. Good job Frank Henry Kubacki "In God We Trust" > From: f.gonderm...@comcast.net > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:58:10 -0500 > Subject: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash > > I have been a member of this list for over three years and I very rarely > post an email but now I must chime in because if I don't this list won't be > worth the web space it takes up! > > OK - so everyone has an opinion... nice to see a friendly chat group can be > so obtuse! Really, is it about what we know or can claim what other don't > know without "Certs" Really? - It's a video that can be doctored in many > ways or can be 100% factual. Unless you are part of the Insurance Institute > for Highway Safety and can swear under oath that both cars were built or > restored to 100% factory specs the video is subject to speculation. But as > far as I am concerned this went from a friendly supportive chat group to a > group of borderline hostile "let me prove my point" no-it-alls. If this is > what the list is becoming; then perhaps the name should change from > Chevelle-list to "What-The-Hell-Do-I-Care-About-Your-Opinion-List" > > If you all want to continue to argue and attempt to prove your own point - > please do it off line as to not clutter my email. > > Thanks! > > Frank > Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you.
Re: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash
Ya Hit The Nail Right On The Head Frank!! Good Job.. Kevin... Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler Grandpa To Many LOL --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Henry Kubacki wrote: From: Henry Kubacki Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 12:07 AM Exactly what I meant. Just in a more "Polite" way. Good job Frank Henry Kubacki "In God We Trust" > From: f.gonderm...@comcast.net > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:58:10 -0500 > Subject: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash > > I have been a member of this list for over three years and I very rarely > post an email but now I must chime in because if I don't this list won't be > worth the web space it takes up! > > OK - so everyone has an opinion... nice to see a friendly chat group can be > so obtuse! Really, is it about what we know or can claim what other don't > know without "Certs" Really? - It's a video that can be doctored in many > ways or can be 100% factual. Unless you are part of the Insurance Institute > for Highway Safety and can swear under oath that both cars were built or > restored to 100% factory specs the video is subject to speculation. But as > far as I am concerned this went from a friendly supportive chat group to a > group of borderline hostile "let me prove my point" no-it-alls. If this is > what the list is becoming; then perhaps the name should change from > Chevelle-list to "What-The-Hell-Do-I-Care-About-Your-Opinion-List" > > If you all want to continue to argue and attempt to prove your own point - > please do it off line as to not clutter my email. > > Thanks! > > Frank > Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you.
Re: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash
Exactly what I meant. Just in a more "Polite" way. Good job Frank Henry Kubacki "In God We Trust" > From: f.gonderm...@comcast.net > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:58:10 -0500 > Subject: [Chevelle-list] YouTube Crash > > I have been a member of this list for over three years and I very rarely > post an email but now I must chime in because if I don't this list won't be > worth the web space it takes up! > > OK - so everyone has an opinion... nice to see a friendly chat group can be > so obtuse! Really, is it about what we know or can claim what other don't > know without "Certs" Really? - It's a video that can be doctored in many > ways or can be 100% factual. Unless you are part of the Insurance Institute > for Highway Safety and can swear under oath that both cars were built or > restored to 100% factory specs the video is subject to speculation. But as > far as I am concerned this went from a friendly supportive chat group to a > group of borderline hostile "let me prove my point" no-it-alls. If this is > what the list is becoming; then perhaps the name should change from > Chevelle-list to "What-The-Hell-Do-I-Care-About-Your-Opinion-List" > > If you all want to continue to argue and attempt to prove your own point - > please do it off line as to not clutter my email. > > Thanks! > > Frank > _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290
