Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light)
Ain't that the truth, I've got a short blowing my dash lights/ parking lights fuse! what a pain in the a$$! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ONE LITTLE THING CAN MAKE YOU LOOK FOR DAYS /HTML -- Bill Bradley 67 Chevelle Malibu http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/ 71 Triumph Spitfire 82 Chevy C-10
Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light)
#1 I disconnected the ground I added and the light is still on #2 I disconnected the wire to the sending unit and the light is still on #3 I did a continuity check on the blue wire that goes to the sending unit, no signal. ALL WITH KEY ON If I remove the ground I added the temp and fuel gauge will not work. If you have any more suggestions please send them. I am at a loss at this point and I am ready to just remove the bulb so I can enjoy the car. Thanks again for all your help! Bill - Original Message - From: Rick Schaefer To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light) The oil light is looking for a ground. It has power all the time with the key in the on position, and when you start the motor get pressure, a switch inside the sending unit opens takes the ground away and the light goes out. 1- Wire from light to sending unit is shorted to ground. Disconnect wire at sending unit. , if light stays ON all the time, you probably have a short to ground between light unit.It COULD be the ground you added - disconnect it and see what the light does. 2 - Bad sending unit - switch inside does not open - easy to isolate. Disconnect the wire to the sending unit. Lite should be OUT with key ON - ground the wire you disconnected from sending unit, light should go ON. My guess that the ground you added is also grounding the oil pressure light. On 4/14/07, william yetman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anybody knows what would cause the oil light to stay = on, other than no oil preasure, (72 chevelle ss) I know there is = preasure. First a little history... I was having trouble getting the = temp gauge to work so while I was trying to fix it I fried the circuit = board. OOPS! anyway I replaced it and added a ground to the bottom = terminal of the temp gauge and it now works fine but the oil light does = not go out. Any ideas or help would appreciated once again. Bill - Original Message - From: Dale To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 396/325 If it has been wrapped up for the past 20 years I'd see if it'll turn over. I'd pull the pan and check at least one main and one rod bearing for any rust. Maybe get it in writing that if (when) you pull the heads that there won't be any rust buildup around the rings. I'm sure it hasn't been kept in a temperature controlled environment for 20 years. The #3916323 casting is a 68 block, makes me curious as to why no numbers were ever stamped on it. ? Dale McIntosh 1966/67 Chevelle Reference CDs ACES #1709/TC GOLD #92 -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Benjamin Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:25 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] 396/325 Been looking for my 1968 Beaumont Sport Deluxe Found this and was wondering if they were a good motor? Any information helpfull Anything to watch out for, will probably get it Saturday. Rebuilt over 20 years ago., rv type cam. been sitting in wrap since. i will not unwrap this for you to kick the tires. brand new block. never had numbers stamped on it. marked on bell housing area, hi perf truck pass s. 3916323. gm 1 on v2. Motor, complete with valve covers, oil pan, harmonic balancer, intake, faded ,rough air cleaner top. no pics. it was oringinaly built for a 67 beamont convertible. Thanks Again Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My Web Site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000733-0, 04/11/2007 Tested on: 4/12/2007 11:36:14 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light)
HAVE YOU CHECKED THE FUEL GAUGE GROUND AT THE BACK OF THE CAR IF THERE IS ONE, THERE IS A 64- 67 CHEVELLE PERRY /HTML
Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light)
There is one and as far as I know it is grounded. It was working before the circuit board fried. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light) HAVE YOU CHECKED THE FUEL GAUGE GROUND AT THE BACK OF THE CAR IF THERE IS ONE, THERE IS A 64- 67 CHEVELLE PERRY
Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light)
I just found the problem... It was the circuit board bulb socket..., one of the brass terminals sliped under the circuit board when I twisted into place and grounded it to the gauge housing. I couldn't believe when I saw it (with a mirror). Thanks for all your help you guys are great! Bill - Original Message - From: Rick Schaefer To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light) The oil light is looking for a ground. It has power all the time with the key in the on position, and when you start the motor get pressure, a switch inside the sending unit opens takes the ground away and the light goes out. 1- Wire from light to sending unit is shorted to ground. Disconnect wire at sending unit. , if light stays ON all the time, you probably have a short to ground between light unit.It COULD be the ground you added - disconnect it and see what the light does. 2 - Bad sending unit - switch inside does not open - easy to isolate. Disconnect the wire to the sending unit. Lite should be OUT with key ON - ground the wire you disconnected from sending unit, light should go ON. My guess that the ground you added is also grounding the oil pressure light. On 4/14/07, william yetman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anybody knows what would cause the oil light to stay = on, other than no oil preasure, (72 chevelle ss) I know there is = preasure. First a little history... I was having trouble getting the = temp gauge to work so while I was trying to fix it I fried the circuit = board. OOPS! anyway I replaced it and added a ground to the bottom = terminal of the temp gauge and it now works fine but the oil light does = not go out. Any ideas or help would appreciated once again. Bill - Original Message - From: Dale To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 396/325 If it has been wrapped up for the past 20 years I'd see if it'll turn over. I'd pull the pan and check at least one main and one rod bearing for any rust. Maybe get it in writing that if (when) you pull the heads that there won't be any rust buildup around the rings. I'm sure it hasn't been kept in a temperature controlled environment for 20 years. The #3916323 casting is a 68 block, makes me curious as to why no numbers were ever stamped on it. ? Dale McIntosh 1966/67 Chevelle Reference CDs ACES #1709/TC GOLD #92 -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Benjamin Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:25 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] 396/325 Been looking for my 1968 Beaumont Sport Deluxe Found this and was wondering if they were a good motor? Any information helpfull Anything to watch out for, will probably get it Saturday. Rebuilt over 20 years ago., rv type cam. been sitting in wrap since. i will not unwrap this for you to kick the tires. brand new block. never had numbers stamped on it. marked on bell housing area, hi perf truck pass s. 3916323. gm 1 on v2. Motor, complete with valve covers, oil pan, harmonic balancer, intake, faded ,rough air cleaner top. no pics. it was oringinaly built for a 67 beamont convertible. Thanks Again Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My Web Site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000733-0, 04/11/2007 Tested on: 4/12/2007 11:36:14 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light)
Bill Glad that you got it. Its frequently something that we do to ourselves.Re your troubleshooting Item 3 - Do NOT check continuity with power on. First you don't get an accurate reading - your no signal shows that. Second you can burn out your meter. rick On 4/16/07, william yetman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found the problem... It was the circuit board bulb socket..., one of the brass terminals sliped under the circuit board when I twisted into place and grounded it to the gauge housing. I couldn't believe when I saw it (with a mirror). Thanks for all your help you guys are great! Bill - Original Message - *From:* Rick Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Sent:* Sunday, April 15, 2007 11:54 AM *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light) The oil light is looking for a ground. It has power all the time with the key in the on position, and when you start the motor get pressure, a switch inside the sending unit opens takes the ground away and the light goes out. 1- Wire from light to sending unit is shorted to ground. Disconnect wire at sending unit. , if light stays ON all the time, you probably have a short to ground between light unit.It COULD be the ground you added - disconnect it and see what the light does. 2 - Bad sending unit - switch inside does not open - easy to isolate. Disconnect the wire to the sending unit. Lite should be OUT with key ON - ground the wire you disconnected from sending unit, light should go ON. My guess that the ground you added is also grounding the oil pressure light. On 4/14/07, william yetman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anybody knows what would cause the oil light to stay = on, other than no oil preasure, (72 chevelle ss) I know there is = preasure. First a little history... I was having trouble getting the = temp gauge to work so while I was trying to fix it I fried the circuit = board. OOPS! anyway I replaced it and added a ground to the bottom = terminal of the temp gauge and it now works fine but the oil light does = not go out. Any ideas or help would appreciated once again. Bill - Original Message - *From:* Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* 'The Chevelle Mailing List' chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:36 PM *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] 396/325 If it has been wrapped up for the past 20 years I'd see if it'll turn over. I'd pull the pan and check at least one main and one rod bearing for any rust. Maybe get it in writing that if (when) you pull the heads that there won't be any rust buildup around the rings. I'm sure it hasn't been kept in a temperature controlled environment for 20 years. The #3916323 casting is a 68 block, makes me curious as to why no numbers were ever stamped on it. ? Dale McIntosh 1966/67 Chevelle Reference CDs http://www.chevellecd.com/ ACES #1709/TC GOLD #92 http://www.chevellecd.com/ -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dave Benjamin *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:25 PM *To:* chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] 396/325 Been looking for my *1968 Beaumont* *S*port *D*eluxe Found this and was wondering if they were a good motor? *Any information helpfull* *Anything* to watch out for, will probably get it Saturday. Rebuilt over 20 years ago., rv type cam. been sitting in wrap since. i will not unwrap this for you to kick the tires. brand new block. never had numbers stamped on it. marked on bell housing area, hi perf truck pass s.3916323. gm 1 on v2. Motor, complete with valve covers, oil pan, harmonic balancer, intake, faded ,rough air cleaner top. no pics. it was oringinaly built for a 67 beamont convertible. Thanks Again Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My Web Site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ -- avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000733-0, 04/11/2007 Tested on: 4/12/2007 11:36:14 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light)
ONE LITTLE THING CAN MAKE YOU LOOK FOR DAYS /HTML
Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light)
The oil light is looking for a ground. It has power all the time with the key in the on position, and when you start the motor get pressure, a switch inside the sending unit opens takes the ground away and the light goes out. 1- Wire from light to sending unit is shorted to ground. Disconnect wire at sending unit. , if light stays ON all the time, you probably have a short to ground between light unit.It COULD be the ground you added - disconnect it and see what the light does. 2 - Bad sending unit - switch inside does not open - easy to isolate. Disconnect the wire to the sending unit. Lite should be OUT with key ON - ground the wire you disconnected from sending unit, light should go ON. My guess that the ground you added is also grounding the oil pressure light. On 4/14/07, william yetman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anybody knows what would cause the oil light to stay = on, other than no oil preasure, (72 chevelle ss) I know there is = preasure. First a little history... I was having trouble getting the = temp gauge to work so while I was trying to fix it I fried the circuit = board. OOPS! anyway I replaced it and added a ground to the bottom = terminal of the temp gauge and it now works fine but the oil light does = not go out. Any ideas or help would appreciated once again. Bill - Original Message - *From:* Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* 'The Chevelle Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:36 PM *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] 396/325 If it has been wrapped up for the past 20 years I'd see if it'll turn over. I'd pull the pan and check at least one main and one rod bearing for any rust. Maybe get it in writing that if (when) you pull the heads that there won't be any rust buildup around the rings. I'm sure it hasn't been kept in a temperature controlled environment for 20 years. The #3916323 casting is a 68 block, makes me curious as to why no numbers were ever stamped on it. ? Dale McIntosh 1966/67 Chevelle Reference CDs http://www.chevellecd.com/ ACES #1709/TC GOLD #92 http://www.chevellecd.com/ -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dave Benjamin *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:25 PM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] 396/325 Been looking for my *1968 Beaumont* *S*port *D*eluxe Found this and was wondering if they were a good motor? *Any information helpfull* *Anything* to watch out for, will probably get it Saturday. Rebuilt over 20 years ago., rv type cam. been sitting in wrap since. i will not unwrap this for you to kick the tires. brand new block. never had numbers stamped on it. marked on bell housing area, hi perf truck pass s.3916323. gm 1 on v2. Motor, complete with valve covers, oil pan, harmonic balancer, intake, faded ,rough air cleaner top. no pics. it was oringinaly built for a 67 beamont convertible. Thanks Again Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My Web Site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ -- avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000733-0, 04/11/2007 Tested on: 4/12/2007 11:36:14 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light)
YOUR OIL SENDING UNIT MIGHT HAVE GOT SHORTED OUT WHEN YOU FRIED THE BOARD. LIGHT MIGHT BE GOING TO GROUND HOW CLOSE WAS IT TO THE GROUND YOU PUT IN. JUST A THOUGHT PERRY /HTML
Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light)
opposite side of the circuit board ...I did do a continuity check on the pressure switch it is working. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light) YOUR OIL SENDING UNIT MIGHT HAVE GOT SHORTED OUT WHEN YOU FRIED THE BOARD. LIGHT MIGHT BE GOING TO GROUND HOW CLOSE WAS IT TO THE GROUND YOU PUT IN. JUST A THOUGHT PERRY
Re: [Chevelle-list] another subject (oil light)
AS U KNOW STRANGER THINGS HAVE HAPPEN TO THESE OLD CARS, MINE IS GAS GAUGES, THEY TEST GOOD, SOMETIMES THEY WORK AND THEN THEY WANT MORE ATTENTION AND STOP WORKING, MY SS STARTED WANTING NEW PARTS EVERY DAY I HAD TO THREATEN TO PUT IT ON EBAY AND THEN SHE GOT BACK WITH THE PROGRAM. PERRY /HTML
