[Chicken-users] Win32 Threading Issue
can someone give me a reasonable explanation as to why this would not work on Win32 but works properly on Linux? what am i missing here? (use tcp-server) (thread-start! (make-thread (lambda () ((make-tcp-server (tcp-listen 9000) (lambda () (write-line (conc "response: " (read) #t)) )) (thread-yield!) (define send-data (lambda (ip port msg) (define-values (i o) (tcp-connect (->string ip) port)) (write msg o) (let ((result (read-line i))) (close-input-port i) (close-output-port o) result))) (letrec ((loop (lambda () (pp (send-data "127.0.0.1" 9000 "hi")) (loop (loop)) ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken For Ruby Programmers
this is a good outline. hopefully i'll have some time tomorrow to start writing a few sections and we'll see how it goes. On Feb 19, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Mark Fredrickson wrote: Hi Raymond, I've added my 1st draft presentation outline: https://galinha.ucpel.tche.br/cgi-bin/svnwiki/default/chicken-for-ruby-programmers This is just my rambling thoughts on what my Ruby group might be interested in. On Feb 19, 2008, at 9:37 PM, raymond medeiros wrote: I actually have a profile page. Well specific correlations between languages would be good, I think for this document it would be best to show how things like map work in ruby and in scheme. Agreed. I think showing how Ruby knowledge is immediately applicable in Scheme is a good tack to take. For example, Hash.new is like (make-hash-table). There are a few articles out there under various names you might want to read up on. Search for "functional programming in ruby" and also "ruby lisp". I was thinking something along those lines, because we can relate those paradigms in both languages. Also what i'd like to see is emphasis on meta-programming in Ruby vs meta-programming in lisp. That's just off the top of my head. While I don't disagree that showing off metaprogramming would be useful, I think I may focus on more "immediate" task needs: shell scripting, regexes, various object systems, eggs vs. gems. I think this balance of quick-start, immediate needs with a higher level idiom and meta-programming comparison would make a very strong introduction. Divide and conquer! something else to consider, would it be prudent to create an introductory tutorial on spiffy/web-unity/mettle and show how one might pursue web development for people who currently use a framework like RoR? Certainly. It's not my area of expertise, but perhaps we can draft some more individuals. I think such a tutorial could have more value if it also addressed other web frameworks such as Struts or CakePHP. Cheers, -M ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken For Ruby Programmers
something else to consider, would it be prudent to create an introductory tutorial on spiffy/web-unity/mettle and show how one might pursue web development for people who currently use a framework like RoR? On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Mark Fredrickson wrote: Hi Raymond, On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:16 PM, Raymond Medeiros wrote: Hi, myself and my friend Liam Irish were considering working on this portion of the hack-a-thon. So I'm throwing it out there, I noticed that Mark Fredrickson is already on the list for Ruby. Great! I know Peter Bex also expressed a willigness to help. The more help the better. I have absolutely no intention of monopolizing this work! I would encourage you to add your name(s) to the list. Also, Mario is encouraging people to add profile pages, and this might be a good time to do both. We both have extensive "real world" experience with Ruby as a language, might not be so strong on the scheme side, but could possibly lend a hand in fleshing this out. Cool. I have less Ruby experience, but I agreed to give a presentation on Scheme to my local Ruby user's group. I would greatly value your experience. BTW, I love the "Chicken for X Programmers" I think that this is precisely the kind of thing Chicken needs to gain more exposure. I welcome any comments suggestions on this. Neither a comment nor suggestion, but a question: As a Ruby programmer, what would you like to see in an introductory document? I was brainstorming ideas tonight, and I find it hard to decide whether to focus on very specific topics (e.g. "Instead of a Hash class, you can use (make-hash-table)") vs. higher level concepts (e.g. "Blocks are like anonymous functions."). I suspect these intro docs will be a combo of the two. Cheers, -Mark ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken For Ruby Programmers
http://www.randomhacks.net/articles/2005/12/03/why-ruby-is-an-acceptable-lisp http://tech.rufy.com/2006/11/functional-programming-in-ruby.html were the articles i was thinking about in particular, might make for a good starting place for ideas on how to organize the wiki entry. we should probably start with an outline, what i don't want is a table of "this in ruby vs this in lisp", I'd rather see idiom comparison. On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Mark Fredrickson wrote: Hi Raymond, On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:16 PM, Raymond Medeiros wrote: Hi, myself and my friend Liam Irish were considering working on this portion of the hack-a-thon. So I'm throwing it out there, I noticed that Mark Fredrickson is already on the list for Ruby. Great! I know Peter Bex also expressed a willigness to help. The more help the better. I have absolutely no intention of monopolizing this work! I would encourage you to add your name(s) to the list. Also, Mario is encouraging people to add profile pages, and this might be a good time to do both. We both have extensive "real world" experience with Ruby as a language, might not be so strong on the scheme side, but could possibly lend a hand in fleshing this out. Cool. I have less Ruby experience, but I agreed to give a presentation on Scheme to my local Ruby user's group. I would greatly value your experience. BTW, I love the "Chicken for X Programmers" I think that this is precisely the kind of thing Chicken needs to gain more exposure. I welcome any comments suggestions on this. Neither a comment nor suggestion, but a question: As a Ruby programmer, what would you like to see in an introductory document? I was brainstorming ideas tonight, and I find it hard to decide whether to focus on very specific topics (e.g. "Instead of a Hash class, you can use (make-hash-table)") vs. higher level concepts (e.g. "Blocks are like anonymous functions."). I suspect these intro docs will be a combo of the two. Cheers, -Mark ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken For Ruby Programmers
I actually have a profile page. Well specific correlations between languages would be good, I think for this document it would be best to show how things like map work in ruby and in scheme. There are a few articles out there under various names you might want to read up on. Search for "functional programming in ruby" and also "ruby lisp". I was thinking something along those lines, because we can relate those paradigms in both languages. Also what i'd like to see is emphasis on meta-programming in Ruby vs meta-programming in lisp. That's just off the top of my head. On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Mark Fredrickson wrote: Hi Raymond, On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:16 PM, Raymond Medeiros wrote: Hi, myself and my friend Liam Irish were considering working on this portion of the hack-a-thon. So I'm throwing it out there, I noticed that Mark Fredrickson is already on the list for Ruby. Great! I know Peter Bex also expressed a willigness to help. The more help the better. I have absolutely no intention of monopolizing this work! I would encourage you to add your name(s) to the list. Also, Mario is encouraging people to add profile pages, and this might be a good time to do both. We both have extensive "real world" experience with Ruby as a language, might not be so strong on the scheme side, but could possibly lend a hand in fleshing this out. Cool. I have less Ruby experience, but I agreed to give a presentation on Scheme to my local Ruby user's group. I would greatly value your experience. BTW, I love the "Chicken for X Programmers" I think that this is precisely the kind of thing Chicken needs to gain more exposure. I welcome any comments suggestions on this. Neither a comment nor suggestion, but a question: As a Ruby programmer, what would you like to see in an introductory document? I was brainstorming ideas tonight, and I find it hard to decide whether to focus on very specific topics (e.g. "Instead of a Hash class, you can use (make-hash-table)") vs. higher level concepts (e.g. "Blocks are like anonymous functions."). I suspect these intro docs will be a combo of the two. Cheers, -Mark ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
[Chicken-users] Chicken For Ruby Programmers
Hi, myself and my friend Liam Irish were considering working on this portion of the hack-a-thon. So I'm throwing it out there, I noticed that Mark Fredrickson is already on the list for Ruby. We both have extensive "real world" experience with Ruby as a language, might not be so strong on the scheme side, but could possibly lend a hand in fleshing this out. BTW, I love the "Chicken for X Programmers" I think that this is precisely the kind of thing Chicken needs to gain more exposure. I welcome any comments suggestions on this. ./rm ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] egg documentation
I was thinking that myegg.wiki would be the literal markup that svn wiki uses. but instead of having to navigate to a page and cut and paste your updates into a tiny text box, you could edit them in vim and the egg builder would automatically commit a revision to the wiki. On Feb 12, 2008, at 11:41 PM, Ivan Raikov wrote: I will look at rdoc, but you should look at mole :-) I think mole follows a similar pattern, but the output formats are perhaps more limited. As for the second idea, it is okay with me, but a long time ago I wrote a proposal about incorporating eggdoc-like markup in svnwiki, and nothing happened, so I am not holding my breath. -Ivan raymond medeiros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: basically i was thinking about exactly what rdoc does ( i haven't used mole ) look at rdoc. but then adding the ability to generate wiki code and import it into the svn wiki, and also the ability to generate various formats like pdf's, html etc... another idea was, in your egg: myegg.wiki which would contain the wiki page, and get imported into svn wiki. that way the maintainer has local control over the document, but it gets automatically imported into the wiki. so you can edit it with VIM or EMACS check it in, and when the egg gets built it updates the appropriate wiki page, entering a new revision using the committers credentials. ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] egg documentation
basically i was thinking about exactly what rdoc does ( i haven't used mole ) look at rdoc. but then adding the ability to generate wiki code and import it into the svn wiki, and also the ability to generate various formats like pdf's, html etc... another idea was, in your egg: myegg.wiki which would contain the wiki page, and get imported into svn wiki. that way the maintainer has local control over the document, but it gets automatically imported into the wiki. so you can edit it with VIM or EMACS check it in, and when the egg gets built it updates the appropriate wiki page, entering a new revision using the committers credentials. just my $0.02 in Au On Feb 12, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Ivan Raikov wrote: Well, there is already mole, but nobody seems to use that. Actually, I tried using it for my very first attempt at creating an egg, but the markup mole supports was quite limited. In general, as much as I admire Donald Knuth and everything he has done for computer science, most attempts at literate programming seem to result in almost unreadable code and documentation that is difficult to maintain. -Ivan Raymond Medeiros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: what about something similar to rdoc, inline comments in your code that get parsed out to generate documentation: chicken-doc -to-wiki openssl.egg-dir chicken-doc -to-pdf openssl.egg-dir etc...? ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] egg documentation
what about something similar to rdoc, inline comments in your code that get parsed out to generate documentation: chicken-doc -to-wiki openssl.egg-dir chicken-doc -to-pdf openssl.egg-dir etc...? On Feb 12, 2008, at 10:24 PM, Kon Lovett wrote: On Feb 12, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Ivan Raikov wrote: I don't understand why is everyone trying to come up with the Mother of all Documentation Systems all the time. For the time being, can't we just agree on having two documentation standards for Chicken: wiki (for simple documentation) and eggdoc (for complex documentation with examples, tutorials, etc.). Don't forget a 3rd, raw html. A few eggs have this for hysterical reasons; ex: coerce, uri, testbase. ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users Best Wishes, Kon ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] Hackathon!
is it possible to get a list of all eggs which do not currently have their documentation in the wiki? then we could start migrating the doc to the wiki. On Feb 11, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Peter Bex wrote: Hello everyone, In light of the recent announcement by Felix and some people's concerns that the project may get into a bit of a slump with a lack of a single Benevolent Dictator, I decided that it would be a good idea to organize a Hackathon. This will be an excellent opportunity for the community to get involved and pick up on anything that we've all come to take for granted Felix (and other core committers) would take care of. For those unfamiliar with Hackathons, I've seen and participated in a couple of hackathons from the NetBSD project (http://www.netbsd.org/community/hackathon.html) where each was a smashing success. The idea is that everyone (hackers AND users) gets together on IRC (irc.freenode.net, #chicken) in a weekend and work on "boring" or routine things that have been lying around and just need to get done. To stress, this is _not_ about adding major new features, it's just about consolidating what's already there, ie fixing bugs, weeding through bugreports, testing etc. I propose to hold the hackathon on the weekend of 22-23 February. Suggestions of different dates are welcome. A wiki page has been created at http://chicken.wiki.br/Hackathon1 with some initial suggestions of things to work on. Please feel free to add suggestions to it. As I've stated before, _anyone_ is free to help out! Don't be shy, even if you have zero experience hacking Chicken you can help out with documentation or testing of new features. Cheers, Peter -- http://sjamaan.ath.cx -- "The process of preparing programs for a digital computer is especially attractive, not only because it can be economically and scientifically rewarding, but also because it can be an aesthetic experience much like composing poetry or music." -- Donald Knuth ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
[Chicken-users] wikispam
https://galinha.ucpel.tche.br/cgi-bin/svnwiki/default/r-kent-dybvig-oscar-waddell-bob-hieb-carl-bruggeman someone might want to remove the node, i just made it empty. ./rm ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
