Re: [Chicken-users] Survey results

2010-10-27 Thread Christian Kellermann
* Jörg F. Wittenberger  [101027 13:19]:
> Am Montag, den 25.10.2010, 07:05 -0600 schrieb Alan Post:
> > It's too bad there isn't any ARM platform use.
> > 
> Apparently I missed the survey too.
> 
> Now let's add an ARM installation:
> 
> http://a6b4d4edd80044de521eaeeb3893bc663.dyndns.softeyes.net/A849640f672ed0df0958abc0712110f3c/
> 
> A Sheeva Plug under my desk running chicken 4.6.1 .

Very well! May i invite you to update the ARM lines on
http://wiki.call-cc.org/portability ? No login required...

Also your dyndns entries don't resolve to something listening on
the other side for me...

Thanks for making our docs more accurate!

Christian

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Re: [Chicken-users] Survey results

2010-10-27 Thread F. Wittenberger
Am Montag, den 25.10.2010, 07:05 -0600 schrieb Alan Post:
> It's too bad there isn't any ARM platform use.
> 
Apparently I missed the survey too.

Now let's add an ARM installation:

http://a6b4d4edd80044de521eaeeb3893bc663.dyndns.softeyes.net/A849640f672ed0df0958abc0712110f3c/

A Sheeva Plug under my desk running chicken 4.6.1 .

Here a thread listing:
http://a6b4d4edd80044de521eaeeb3893bc663.dyndns.softeyes.net/A646229e03df93e375e73da83774ead3a?select=kernelthreads

/Jerry



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Re: [Chicken-users] Survey results

2010-10-25 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Oops I wasn't paying attention and missed the survey.  I run chicken
most often on Linux, 64-bit, looks like I have 4.5.0 at the moment.
Also have 4.5.0 on MacOS.  I was using chicken on OpenMoko (an ARM
platform, really nobody else is running on arm?) and on a Zaurus
before that, but that was version 3... I don't think I got around to
trying 4 yet, and haven't been doing anything there for a couple years
anyway.  And I have tried it on Windows XP at some point, but not
recently.

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Christian Kellermann
 wrote:
> Dear Chicken Fans!
>
> Thank you very much for all your replies during the last week(s).
> I have updated the portability page accordingly. If you miss your
> operating system in there or are running a newer version or what
> not please don't be afraid to change it. It's a wiki and you don't
> need to authenticate to change it.
>
> The url is http://wiki.call-cc.org/portability
>
> I have received a total of 30 reported chicken installs in use:
>
> | # Users | Operating System |
> |-+--|
> |       1 | FreeBSD          |
> |       1 | Haiku            |
> |      13 | Linux            |
> |       6 | Mac OS X         |
> |       1 | NetBSD           |
> |       4 | OpenBSD          |
> |       2 | Windows/mingw    |
> |       2 | Windows/cygwin   |
>
> | # Users | Architecture |
> |-+--|
> |       1 | MIPS         |
> |       4 | PPC          |
> |      19 | x86          |
> |       6 | x64          |
>
> | # Users | Chicken Version |
> |-+-|
> |       3 |           4.6.3 |
> |       5 |           4.6.2 |
> |       1 |           4.6.1 |
> |      14 |           4.6.0 |
> |       1 |           4.5.7 |
> |       5 |           4.5.0 |
> |       1 |           4.2.0 |
>
> Now let's hear some speculations on what this all means. I would
> also love to hear from some peculiar hardware you are running chicken
> on. I know some of you do.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Christian
>
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Re: [Chicken-users] Survey results

2010-10-25 Thread Peter Bex
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:05:36AM -0600, Alan Post wrote:
> The cross product of the operating system and cpu architecture usage
> suggests we don't really test enough combinations of os and cpu.

It's true, for haiku, Windows and solaris, and some architectures.

I myself use it on NetBSD on both amd64(x86_64) and macppc, and
I know that Alaric uses it on NetBSD as well (the "lone" NetBSD
user in Christian's results is someone else), so we have more
NetBSD users than the poll results suggest.

I expect the same to be true for the other platforms.

Cheers,
Peter
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 is especially attractive, not only because it can be economically
 and scientifically rewarding, but also because it can be an aesthetic
 experience much like composing poetry or music."
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Re: [Chicken-users] Survey results

2010-10-25 Thread Christian Kellermann
Hi Alan,

* Alan Post  [101025 15:05]:
> I'm personally surprised to see 10% of users running OpenBSD, with
> *BSD combined coming in at 30% of usage.  I would have guessed that
> number to be lower. We have some critical users, namely our single
> MIPS person and the lone FreeBSD, Haiku, and NetBSD people.

Those are indeed loners, but beware that there may be a lot more
people hiding or not reading the ML but using chicken happily on
these systems.

> The cross product of the operating system and cpu architecture usage
> suggests we don't really test enough combinations of os and cpu.
> It's too bad there isn't any ARM platform use.

I know of at least one person using it on ARM but this person did
not reply to the mail.

> Have any of you other OpenBSD users patched your linker to avoid
> spurious warnings of strcat, &c when you link chicken?  

I forgot to mention that I have counted the number of installations
of chickens, indeed the # Users column is misleading. Most people
run more than one chicken on more than one machine.

I am one of the OpenBSD users myself and no I haven't bothered
patching the compiler to emit safe variants of strcat etc.

Kind regards,

Christian


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Re: [Chicken-users] Survey results

2010-10-25 Thread Alan Post
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:48:22PM +0200, Christian Kellermann wrote:
> Dear Chicken Fans!
> 
> Thank you very much for all your replies during the last week(s).
> I have updated the portability page accordingly. If you miss your
> operating system in there or are running a newer version or what
> not please don't be afraid to change it. It's a wiki and you don't
> need to authenticate to change it.
> 
> The url is http://wiki.call-cc.org/portability
> 
> I have received a total of 30 reported chicken installs in use:
> 
> | # Users | Operating System |
> |-+--|
> |   1 | FreeBSD  |
> |   1 | Haiku|
> |  13 | Linux|
> |   6 | Mac OS X |
> |   1 | NetBSD   |
> |   4 | OpenBSD  |
> |   2 | Windows/mingw|
> |   2 | Windows/cygwin   |
> 
> | # Users | Architecture |
> |-+--|
> |   1 | MIPS |
> |   4 | PPC  |
> |  19 | x86  |
> |   6 | x64  |
> 
> | # Users | Chicken Version |
> |-+-|
> |   3 |   4.6.3 |
> |   5 |   4.6.2 |
> |   1 |   4.6.1 |
> |  14 |   4.6.0 |
> |   1 |   4.5.7 |
> |   5 |   4.5.0 |
> |   1 |   4.2.0 |
> 
> Now let's hear some speculations on what this all means. I would
> also love to hear from some peculiar hardware you are running chicken
> on. I know some of you do.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Christian
> 

I'm personally surprised to see 10% of users running OpenBSD, with
*BSD combined coming in at 30% of usage.  I would have guessed that
number to be lower. We have some critical users, namely our single
MIPS person and the lone FreeBSD, Haiku, and NetBSD people.

The cross product of the operating system and cpu architecture usage
suggests we don't really test enough combinations of os and cpu.
It's too bad there isn't any ARM platform use.

Have any of you other OpenBSD users patched your linker to avoid
spurious warnings of strcat, &c when you link chicken?  

-Alan
-- 
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[Chicken-users] Survey results

2010-10-25 Thread Christian Kellermann
Dear Chicken Fans!

Thank you very much for all your replies during the last week(s).
I have updated the portability page accordingly. If you miss your
operating system in there or are running a newer version or what
not please don't be afraid to change it. It's a wiki and you don't
need to authenticate to change it.

The url is http://wiki.call-cc.org/portability

I have received a total of 30 reported chicken installs in use:

| # Users | Operating System |
|-+--|
|   1 | FreeBSD  |
|   1 | Haiku|
|  13 | Linux|
|   6 | Mac OS X |
|   1 | NetBSD   |
|   4 | OpenBSD  |
|   2 | Windows/mingw|
|   2 | Windows/cygwin   |

| # Users | Architecture |
|-+--|
|   1 | MIPS |
|   4 | PPC  |
|  19 | x86  |
|   6 | x64  |

| # Users | Chicken Version |
|-+-|
|   3 |   4.6.3 |
|   5 |   4.6.2 |
|   1 |   4.6.1 |
|  14 |   4.6.0 |
|   1 |   4.5.7 |
|   5 |   4.5.0 |
|   1 |   4.2.0 |

Now let's hear some speculations on what this all means. I would
also love to hear from some peculiar hardware you are running chicken
on. I know some of you do.

Kind regards,

Christian

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