Re: [Chicken-users] [scheme-reports-wg2] Re: Tangerine Edition penultimate report: how I voted, how you're voting

2019-01-20 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
I am satisfied with the approach taken by R7RS of being both small and
large.

Le sam. 19 janv. 2019 à 22:39, John Cowan  a écrit :

>
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:20 PM Ivan Raikov 
> wrote:
>
>
>> Isn't the difference with R6RS that R7RS-large draws extensively on
>> SRFIs which are indeed attempts to codify existing practices?
>>
>
> SRFIs don't always codify existing practice, including the SRFIs drawn on
> in past, present, and future R7RS-large ballots.  The original intention
> of the
> Steering Committee, I think, had nothing to do with SRFIs; I simply decided
> when writing the charter (which the committee approved) to leverage both
> existing and to-be-written SRFIs in order to be able to create R7RS-large
> piecemeal, which has always seemed to me the only practical approach.
>
> That said, SRFIs often do refer to existing implementations, or
> implementations
> of languages other than Scheme.
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:15 PM Per Bothner  wrote:
>> >
>> > On 1/16/19 6:27 AM, John Cowan wrote:
>> > > So what is happening is that people are voting for more rather than
>> less, as with the Red Edition.  This encourages me that I'm going in a
>> sensible direction with the large language.
>> >
>> > For the record, I'm extremely leery of the more-is-better approach.
>> > We seem to be adding a large number of very large APIs, which seems
>> > to be contrary to the Scheme ideal of small well-chosen primitives
>> > that work synergistic well together.  People were unhappy with R6RS
>> > because of its size and that so much of it was invention rather than
>> > codifying existing practice.  R7RS-large is the same - but much more so.
>> > --
>> > --Per Bothner
>> > p...@bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/
>> >
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Re: [Chicken-users] [scheme-reports-wg2] Re: Tangerine Edition penultimate report: how I voted, how you're voting

2019-01-19 Thread John Cowan
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:20 PM Ivan Raikov  wrote:


> Isn't the difference with R6RS that R7RS-large draws extensively on
> SRFIs which are indeed attempts to codify existing practices?
>

SRFIs don't always codify existing practice, including the SRFIs drawn on
in past, present, and future R7RS-large ballots.  The original intention of
the
Steering Committee, I think, had nothing to do with SRFIs; I simply decided
when writing the charter (which the committee approved) to leverage both
existing and to-be-written SRFIs in order to be able to create R7RS-large
piecemeal, which has always seemed to me the only practical approach.

That said, SRFIs often do refer to existing implementations, or
implementations
of languages other than Scheme.


>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:15 PM Per Bothner  wrote:
> >
> > On 1/16/19 6:27 AM, John Cowan wrote:
> > > So what is happening is that people are voting for more rather than
> less, as with the Red Edition.  This encourages me that I'm going in a
> sensible direction with the large language.
> >
> > For the record, I'm extremely leery of the more-is-better approach.
> > We seem to be adding a large number of very large APIs, which seems
> > to be contrary to the Scheme ideal of small well-chosen primitives
> > that work synergistic well together.  People were unhappy with R6RS
> > because of its size and that so much of it was invention rather than
> > codifying existing practice.  R7RS-large is the same - but much more so.
> > --
> > --Per Bothner
> > p...@bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/
> >
>
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