[chromium-dev] Re: Mac History Menu Implementation
I like firefox's approach with the recently closed in a submenu of the history menu. Honestly though I can't say I use it very frequently. I just feel safer knowing it's there. -- Evan Stade On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Ben Goodger (Google) b...@chromium.org wrote: I would say try as a replacement. i.e. similar to the dock menu... 9 most visited items + 3-4 recently closed -Ben On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Robert Sesek rse...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 00:59, Ben Goodger (Google) b...@chromium.org wrote: I think we had discussed adding most visited/recently closed items here, sort of like a NTP without the NTP. I think this is an interesting idea, particularly the most recently closed items. Are you thinking this is supplemental to the typical (i.e., what other browsers do) history menu, or as a replacement for it? - Robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Mac History Menu Implementation
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 00:59, Ben Goodger (Google) b...@chromium.orgwrote: I think we had discussed adding most visited/recently closed items here, sort of like a NTP without the NTP. I think this is an interesting idea, particularly the most recently closed items. Are you thinking this is supplemental to the typical (i.e., what other browsers do) history menu, or as a replacement for it? - Robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Mac History Menu Implementation
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Ben Goodger (Google) b...@chromium.org wrote: Wash your mouth out with soap. The availability of real estate is never an excuse to use it in Chrome :-P Ok, we'll just go without because it doesn't exist in windows. :P -- Mike Pinkerton Mac Weenie pinker...@google.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Mac History Menu Implementation
Wash your mouth out with soap. The availability of real estate is never an excuse to use it in Chrome :-P I think we had discussed adding most visited/recently closed items here, sort of like a NTP without the NTP. -Ben On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Mike Pinkerton pinker...@chromium.org wrote: Session history != global browser history. The back/forward buttons don't get you anything outside of the current tab's session. Amanda's point about fitts' law is another good one. The History menu is an easy way to get to something you visited recently with one click (vs. the alternative of opening a new tab with history, scrolling down, then hunting in the window for what you're looking for). Opening up a new tab is also a huge context switch for the user as they have to hide what they're currently looking at to peruse it. We have the real-estate in the menubar, we should use it providing we can come up with a reasonable presentation that isn't too overwhelming. On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Mark Larson (Google) m...@chromium.org wrote: Just so it's clear to me... why do we need a History menu? There's a link to history from the wrench menu/Ctrl+H and also from the New Tab page. The back button provides at least 12 entries from the back history for the current tab. That seems more than adequate for the 'jump back a few steps in my click trail' use case. --Mark On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 20:14, Amanda Walker ama...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Robert Sesek rse...@gmail.com wrote: I think that Firefox's implemntation makes the most sense from a usability perspective. Those long menus in Safari are next to worthless if you have a decent-sized browsing history and really just clutter things up. Camino's implemntation isn't bad, either. That being said, I think 10 is too few items to include in the menu, and I'd like to see 15-20. Where do other people stand on this? I actively dislike long and hierarchical menus--for extended browsing, we have a History link off of the new tab page for history browsing searching. However, a history menu with, say, the 10-15 most recent pages is convenient for go back a few steps in my click trail. More than 15 or or so gets hard to pick from at a glance, though. --Amanda -- Mike Pinkerton Mac Weenie pinker...@google.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Mac History Menu Implementation
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Robert Sesek rse...@gmail.com wrote: I think that Firefox's implemntation makes the most sense from a usability perspective. Those long menus in Safari are next to worthless if you have a decent-sized browsing history and really just clutter things up. Camino's implemntation isn't bad, either. That being said, I think 10 is too few items to include in the menu, and I'd like to see 15-20. Where do other people stand on this? I actively dislike long and hierarchical menus--for extended browsing, we have a History link off of the new tab page for history browsing searching. However, a history menu with, say, the 10-15 most recent pages is convenient for go back a few steps in my click trail. More than 15 or or so gets hard to pick from at a glance, though. --Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Mac History Menu Implementation
Just so it's clear to me... why do we need a History menu? There's a link to history from the wrench menu/Ctrl+H and also from the New Tab page. The back button provides at least 12 entries from the back history for the current tab. That seems more than adequate for the 'jump back a few steps in my click trail' use case. --Mark On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 20:14, Amanda Walker ama...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Robert Sesek rse...@gmail.com wrote: I think that Firefox's implemntation makes the most sense from a usability perspective. Those long menus in Safari are next to worthless if you have a decent-sized browsing history and really just clutter things up. Camino's implemntation isn't bad, either. That being said, I think 10 is too few items to include in the menu, and I'd like to see 15-20. Where do other people stand on this? I actively dislike long and hierarchical menus--for extended browsing, we have a History link off of the new tab page for history browsing searching. However, a history menu with, say, the 10-15 most recent pages is convenient for go back a few steps in my click trail. More than 15 or or so gets hard to pick from at a glance, though. --Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Mac History Menu Implementation
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Mark Larson (Google) m...@chromium.org wrote: Just so it's clear to me... why do we need a History menu? There's a link to history from the wrench menu/Ctrl+H and also from the New Tab page. The back button provides at least 12 entries from the back history for the current tab. That seems more than adequate for the 'jump back a few steps in my click trail' use case. Well, need is strong. Robert asked about it in IRC, and we noted that no one was working on one, so he asked for opinions here. As to why it might be desirable, I'd say it's mostly a matter of Fitts's Law: a History menu in the menubar is faster to select from (as long as it's a reasonable size) than a dropdown from a button. Note that the Mac version by default does not show the wrench or page menu buttons, since we have the same functionality in the menu bar. But for anything more complex than, say, go back 4 pages, I think the history page is better than a menu in any case. --Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
