RE: [ChurchillChat] Is Churchill Still Relevant?

2016-09-18 Thread Dave Turrell 
A virgin white elephant.  I love it!  Makes me even prouder than ever of my 
homeland, that we can produce such pachydermatous police powers.

 

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She was very much of the "velvet glove" school.  Whenever she had suspicions of 
one of her subjects, she would do him the honor of visiting him.  The cost of 
housing, feeding and entertaining Queen Bess and her entourage would drive the 
guy almost to bankruptcy.  After a while, she didn't even have to go visit - 
just the suggestion that she might would be enough to bring the subject into 
line.  Now that's some sophistication in the dictatorship business!

 

Jonathan

 

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Jonathan,

 

“She ran history's most successful police state.”

 

A strong statement indeed.  I hope ‘Dear Leader’ in NK doesn’t think you are 
denigrating his accomplishments.  Or that the NSA doesn’t feel slighted.  I 
hear Stalin sobbing in his tomb.

 

Cheers :),

 

Dave

 

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I would hope that Elizabeth I would not be relevant.  She ran history's most 
successful police state.  "The spacious days of good Queen Bess" were extremely 
repressive - and she got people to love it.

 

Jonathan Hayes

 

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On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 11:00:20 PM UTC-4, Dave Turrell wrote:

Would anyone care to explain why WSC will be relevant to someone born in, say, 
2000?  More so than Gladstone, Walpole, or Elizabeth I?

 

A challenging question, Dave. But start with the attached. Somehow I don't see 
Gladstone, Walpole or Bess making the cut. 

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Re: [ChurchillChat] Is Churchill Still Relevant?

2016-09-18 Thread chateaustegosaurus 
She was very much of the "velvet glove" school.  Whenever she had suspicions of 
one of her subjects, she would do him the honor of visiting him.  The cost of 
housing, feeding and entertaining Queen Bess and her entourage would drive the 
guy almost to bankruptcy.  After a while, she didn't even have to go visit - 
just the suggestion that she might would be enough to bring the subject into 
line.  Now that's some sophistication in the dictatorship business!
Jonathan

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{}#yiv1204025465 Jonathan,  “She ran history's most successful police state.”  
A strong statement indeed.  I hope ‘Dear Leader’ in NK doesn’t think you are 
denigrating his accomplishments.  Or that the NSA doesn’t feel slighted.  I 
hear Stalin sobbing in his tomb.  Cheers J,  Dave  From: 
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Elizabeth I would not be relevant.  She ran history's most successful police 
state.  "The spacious days of good Queen Bess" were extremely repressive - and 
she got people to love it.  Jonathan Hayes  From: Richard M. Langworth 
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Subject: [ChurchillChat] Is Churchill Still Relevant?  On Thursday, September 
15, 2016 at 11:00:20 PM UTC-4, Dave Turrell wrote:
Would anyone care to explain why WSC will be relevant to someone born in, say, 
2000?  More so than Gladstone, Walpole, or Elizabeth I?
  A challenging question, Dave. But start with the attached. Somehow I don't 
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RE: [ChurchillChat] Is Churchill Still Relevant?

2016-09-17 Thread Dave Turrell 
Jonathan,

 

“She ran history's most successful police state.”

 

A strong statement indeed.  I hope ‘Dear Leader’ in NK doesn’t think you are 
denigrating his accomplishments.  Or that the NSA doesn’t feel slighted.  I 
hear Stalin sobbing in his tomb.

 

Cheers :),

 

Dave

 

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I would hope that Elizabeth I would not be relevant.  She ran history's most 
successful police state.  "The spacious days of good Queen Bess" were extremely 
repressive - and she got people to love it.

 

Jonathan Hayes

 

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On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 11:00:20 PM UTC-4, Dave Turrell wrote:

Would anyone care to explain why WSC will be relevant to someone born in, say, 
2000?  More so than Gladstone, Walpole, or Elizabeth I?

 

A challenging question, Dave. But start with the attached. Somehow I don't see 
Gladstone, Walpole or Bess making the cut. 

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Re: [ChurchillChat] Is Churchill Still Relevant?

2016-09-17 Thread chateaustegosaurus 
I would hope that Elizabeth I would not be relevant.  She ran history's most 
successful police state.  "The spacious days of good Queen Bess" were extremely 
repressive - and she got people to love it.
Jonathan Hayes


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On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 11:00:20 PM UTC-4, Dave Turrell wrote:
Would anyone care to explain why WSC will be relevant to someone born in, say, 
2000?  More so than Gladstone, Walpole, or Elizabeth I?

A challenging question, Dave. But start with the attached. Somehow I don't see 
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Re: [ChurchillChat] Is Churchill Still Relevant?

2016-09-16 Thread peter adler 

Dear List members,

Churchill saw the writing on the wall of history - and never failed to take
the consequences. He was, you could rightfully claim, a geopolitical
whistle-blower who issued quite a cavalcade of "early warnings" - e.g.
on the nature of the nazi ideology,  on the need for European integration,
on the benefits reaped from free trade and on the evils of totalitarian
communism.

Churchill knew, that expressing his view publicly came with a cost - in 
terms
of public ridicule, election defeats and political isolation. He was 
ready to
to pay these costs fore the sake of freedom. In a political landscape 
crowded
with spineless opportunists (forgive me, Boris Johnson) Churchill 
personifies

a human quality some of us seek desperately (and in vain) among Western
politicians: Political courage.

Peter Adler, Sweden

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Den 2016-09-16 kl. 09:58, skrev Richard M. Langworth:

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 11:00:20 PM UTC-4, Dave Turrell wrote:

Would anyone care to explain why WSC will be relevant to someone
born in, say, 2000?  More so than Gladstone, Walpole, or Elizabeth I?


A challenging question, Dave. But start with the attached. Somehow I 
don't see Gladstone, Walpole or Bess making the cut.

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