Re: [CinCVS] libavc1394 questions; now configure issues

2006-07-12 Thread Pierre Marc Dumuid

Hi Tom,

You wrote:

Pierre:  the ./configure command you suggest results with same missing 
items.  After adding livna, and installing, then running the suggested 
./configure command, the results still show libtheora missing, as well 
as all the others.  I wonder if I need to have some way of pointing to 
the right directory for each of the missing items?  How best to proceed? 
Tom



I find it wierd that it is the "Same" missing items, (I assume there 
would be LESS missing items!! - please double check!)
I did say it was a "starter" of a list of packages you would likely 
need, and that there would be more.  Looking at the list, obviously I 
missed out the libtheora or libtheora-devel or whatever it is called.  
For each package that is still listed as missing, I advise doing this:


$ yum list '*theora*'

if you then install the package and it still shows up as being missing 
then let me know of that particular package name and I will investigate.


For theora as an example. The above command will list the name of the 
packages available from all the yum repositories set up that would 
satisfy this dependency.  Once you have the name of the package, then 
simply install it:

$ yum install libtheora  libtheora-devel

If you are really lazy, like me, you can do stuff like:
$ yum install '*theora*'

which will automatically list all packages with the words theora in them 
and ask you if you want to download and install them all.


Once you have satisfied these dependencies, please send me a list of all 
the required packages, (including the list I already sent you.)


Cheers,
Pierre



and then yum install for each of the following:

nasm
glibc-kernheaders# for /usr/include/linux/videodev2.h
xorg-x11-proto-devel # I am guessing this is needed
xvidcore-devel   # I am guessing this is needed
libXxf86vm-devel
alsa-lib-devel
mjpegtools-libs  # Naughty!! they don't follow the -devel 
notation!!

libjpeg-devel
fftw-devel
djbfft
e2fsprogs-devel # for libuuid
libdv-devel
libpng-devel
freetype-devel
a52dec-devel
libsndfile-devel
OpenEXR
faac-devel
faad2-devel
libraw1394-devel
libiec61883-devel
libavc1394-devel
librom1394-devel
libogg-devel
libvorbis-devel
lame-devel

(you could place them all on one line!) And then manually install:

x264 - I manually installed this from their website..

This should satisfy many of your dependancy problems... Let me know 
what extra needed, and I'll cut and paste it into the compile 
instructions on our website.


j6t: "xorg-x11-proto-devel" could be what needs to be added to:
AC_MSG_WARN([Please install xlib-dev or xorg-x11-devel.])


since I couldn't find either xlib-dev or xorg-xll-devel on my system..


By the way,
should I be doing something between running configure?  I saw some
install instructions that recommend doing a make clean sometimes.
Tom
Umm, I wouldn't do it too often.  If the build fails because a file 
missing in "faad.h" (i.e. you don't have the devel package installed 
for faad) or something like that, I usually install the devel 
package and try to make again... It should compile.  If it gets to 
the end and complains when linking, then I do a make clean.


In terms of the configure, I personally use:
./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-x86 --enable-mmx 
--enable-freetype2 \
   CFLAGS='-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops 
-falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -falign-functions=2 -ffast-math 
-march=pentium-m -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -msse'


when compiling, (I actually placed this in a file 
~/bin/cinelerra_conf.sh cause I got sick of typeing it so much!!) to 
ensure I get a version optimised for my cpu (pentium-m).  You may 
want to investigate this at a later date.


Also, don't forget, the latest svn is crashy, (since it's undergoing 
a merge with the new upstream source)  Use the 836 for best luck 
compiling without any error messages!





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Re: [CinCVS] cinelerra fails on render on 14 percent

2006-07-12 Thread rafael2k
> P.S.: will you package the 2.1 version of cinelerra? I've tried to
> compile it, but fails for me and dont know how to fix it.

in my tests, cinelerra 2.1hv needs make 3.80, 3.81 will not work.

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Re: [CinCVS] libavc1394 questions; now configure issues

2006-07-12 Thread tom poe

tom poe wrote:

Pierre Marc Dumuid wrote:
I personally use FC5.. it does suck a bit, but I am fairly used to it 
now... FC5 is quite scared of patent issues involved with many 
multi-media apps, (lame, mpeg, etc..)


I personally use the livna yum repository, and most of the 
dependencies I was able to be fixed from there..
Well, fooey on that.  I shall use this as a learning experience, and 
see
if I can get a clean ./configure in the next few days.  
If you decided to do the yum method, can you keep track of what 
packages you installed, and send me a list.  I'll add them to a list 
somewhere later...


Just quickly going through the configure.in script myself, and 
rpm-querying my system to see the package names, I obtained the 
following steps.. You might start with


rpm -ivh http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-5.rpm

and then yum install for each of the following:

nasm
glibc-kernheaders# for /usr/include/linux/videodev2.h
xorg-x11-proto-devel # I am guessing this is needed
xvidcore-devel   # I am guessing this is needed
libXxf86vm-devel
alsa-lib-devel
mjpegtools-libs  # Naughty!! they don't follow the -devel notation!!
libjpeg-devel
fftw-devel
djbfft
e2fsprogs-devel # for libuuid
libdv-devel
libpng-devel
freetype-devel
a52dec-devel
libsndfile-devel
OpenEXR
faac-devel
faad2-devel
libraw1394-devel
libiec61883-devel
libavc1394-devel
librom1394-devel
libogg-devel
libvorbis-devel
lame-devel

(you could place them all on one line!) And then manually install:

x264 - I manually installed this from their website..

This should satisfy many of your dependancy problems... Let me know 
what extra needed, and I'll cut and paste it into the compile 
instructions on our website.


j6t: "xorg-x11-proto-devel" could be what needs to be added to:
AC_MSG_WARN([Please install xlib-dev or xorg-x11-devel.])


since I couldn't find either xlib-dev or xorg-xll-devel on my system..


By the way,
should I be doing something between running configure?  I saw some
install instructions that recommend doing a make clean sometimes.
Tom
Umm, I wouldn't do it too often.  If the build fails because a file 
missing in "faad.h" (i.e. you don't have the devel package installed 
for faad) or something like that, I usually install the devel package 
and try to make again... It should compile.  If it gets to the end 
and complains when linking, then I do a make clean.


In terms of the configure, I personally use:
./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-x86 --enable-mmx --enable-freetype2 \
   CFLAGS='-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops 
-falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -falign-functions=2 -ffast-math 
-march=pentium-m -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -msse'


when compiling, (I actually placed this in a file 
~/bin/cinelerra_conf.sh cause I got sick of typeing it so much!!) to 
ensure I get a version optimised for my cpu (pentium-m).  You may 
want to investigate this at a later date.


Also, don't forget, the latest svn is crashy, (since it's undergoing 
a merge with the new upstream source)  Use the 836 for best luck 
compiling without any error messages!


Pierre


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Pierre:  Here's a straight ./configure result.  I'll begin attacking 
with the strategy you suggested, and let you know how it turns out.  
Thanks, much.  Tom


Summary of mandatory components:
 libogg  found
 libvorbis   found
 libvorbisencfound
 libvorbisfile   found
 libtheora   missing
 OpenEXR missing
 libdv   missing
 libpng  found
 libjpeg libraries   found
 libjpeg headers found
 FreeType 2  found
 libx264 libraries   missing
 libx264 headers missing
 libuuid libraries   found
 libuuid headers found
 mjpegtools  missing
 libfftw3 libraries  missing
 libfftw3 headersmissing
 liba52 librariesmissing
 liba52 headers  missing
 libmp3lame librariesfound
 libmp3lame headers  found
 libsndfile librariesmissing
 libsndfile headers  missing
 libfaac libraries   missing
 libfaac headers missing
 libfaad libraries   missing
 libfaad headers missing

Summary of optional components:
 ESD subsystem   found
ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) is enabled
 ALSA subsystem  found
ALSA is enabled
 libraw1394  found
 libiec61883 missing
 libavc1394 librariesmissing
 libavc1394 headers  missing
 librom1394 librariesmissing
 librom1394 headers  missing
Firewire is disabled

Pierre:  the ./configure command you suggest results with same missing 
items.  After adding livna, and installing, then running the suggested 
./configure command, the results still show libtheora missing, as well 
as all the others.  I wonder if I need to ha

[CinCVS] cinelerra fails on render on 14 percent

2006-07-12 Thread Fernando Cerezal
Hello, im using the cinelerra packaged by you on version
2.0.0-3svn20060606.

Im trying to render a movie imported from mov and with png images, with
sound imported from ogg, but when it arrives to 14%  the program crash
and it closes itself. I've tried several times and always crash on that
percent. I attach the xml of the project.

I've tried to read your archives list before to write you, but
http://cvs.cinelerra.org/mailinglists.html is broken.

can you help me to fix the problem?

Thanks in advance and for your work.

P.S.: will you package the 2.1 version of cinelerra? I've tried to
compile it, but fails for me and dont know how to fix it.

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Re: [CinCVS] libavc1394 questions

2006-07-12 Thread tom poe

Pierre Marc Dumuid wrote:
I personally use FC5.. it does suck a bit, but I am fairly used to it 
now... FC5 is quite scared of patent issues involved with many 
multi-media apps, (lame, mpeg, etc..)


I personally use the livna yum repository, and most of the 
dependencies I was able to be fixed from there..

Well, fooey on that.  I shall use this as a learning experience, and see
if I can get a clean ./configure in the next few days.  
If you decided to do the yum method, can you keep track of what 
packages you installed, and send me a list.  I'll add them to a list 
somewhere later...


Just quickly going through the configure.in script myself, and 
rpm-querying my system to see the package names, I obtained the 
following steps.. You might start with


rpm -ivh http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-5.rpm

and then yum install for each of the following:

nasm
glibc-kernheaders# for /usr/include/linux/videodev2.h
xorg-x11-proto-devel # I am guessing this is needed
xvidcore-devel   # I am guessing this is needed
libXxf86vm-devel
alsa-lib-devel
mjpegtools-libs  # Naughty!! they don't follow the -devel notation!!
libjpeg-devel
fftw-devel
djbfft
e2fsprogs-devel # for libuuid
libdv-devel
libpng-devel
freetype-devel
a52dec-devel
libsndfile-devel
OpenEXR
faac-devel
faad2-devel
libraw1394-devel
libiec61883-devel
libavc1394-devel
librom1394-devel
libogg-devel
libvorbis-devel
lame-devel

(you could place them all on one line!) And then manually install:

x264 - I manually installed this from their website..

This should satisfy many of your dependancy problems... Let me know 
what extra needed, and I'll cut and paste it into the compile 
instructions on our website.


j6t: "xorg-x11-proto-devel" could be what needs to be added to:
AC_MSG_WARN([Please install xlib-dev or xorg-x11-devel.])


since I couldn't find either xlib-dev or xorg-xll-devel on my system..


By the way,
should I be doing something between running configure?  I saw some
install instructions that recommend doing a make clean sometimes.
Tom
Umm, I wouldn't do it too often.  If the build fails because a file 
missing in "faad.h" (i.e. you don't have the devel package installed 
for faad) or something like that, I usually install the devel package 
and try to make again... It should compile.  If it gets to the end and 
complains when linking, then I do a make clean.


In terms of the configure, I personally use:
./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-x86 --enable-mmx --enable-freetype2 \
   CFLAGS='-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops 
-falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -falign-functions=2 -ffast-math 
-march=pentium-m -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -msse'


when compiling, (I actually placed this in a file 
~/bin/cinelerra_conf.sh cause I got sick of typeing it so much!!) to 
ensure I get a version optimised for my cpu (pentium-m).  You may want 
to investigate this at a later date.


Also, don't forget, the latest svn is crashy, (since it's undergoing a 
merge with the new upstream source)  Use the 836 for best luck 
compiling without any error messages!


Pierre


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Pierre:  Here's a straight ./configure result.  I'll begin attacking 
with the strategy you suggested, and let you know how it turns out.  
Thanks, much.  Tom


Summary of mandatory components:
 libogg  found
 libvorbis   found
 libvorbisencfound
 libvorbisfile   found
 libtheora   missing
 OpenEXR missing
 libdv   missing
 libpng  found
 libjpeg libraries   found
 libjpeg headers found
 FreeType 2  found
 libx264 libraries   missing
 libx264 headers missing
 libuuid libraries   found
 libuuid headers found
 mjpegtools  missing
 libfftw3 libraries  missing
 libfftw3 headersmissing
 liba52 librariesmissing
 liba52 headers  missing
 libmp3lame librariesfound
 libmp3lame headers  found
 libsndfile librariesmissing
 libsndfile headers  missing
 libfaac libraries   missing
 libfaac headers missing
 libfaad libraries   missing
 libfaad headers missing

Summary of optional components:
 ESD subsystem   found
ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) is enabled
 ALSA subsystem  found
ALSA is enabled
 libraw1394  found
 libiec61883 missing
 libavc1394 librariesmissing
 libavc1394 headers  missing
 librom1394 librariesmissing
 librom1394 headers  missing
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Re: [CinCVS] c2 c2.1 ... many versions

2006-07-12 Thread rafael2k
Em Qua 12 Jul 2006 08:40, Marcin Kostur escreveu:
> Dear CUsers,
>
> Cinelerra used to be compiled with static paths and always has to be
> "installed".
> It is possible to marke cinerella version which uses some given dir the
> best would be
> to use the source dir directly. So that i could have 2, 3 versions
> working at the same time?
> The problem with .bcast dir also remains... ;-) it should bear some
> version number
> like .bcast2.1 etc.
>
> I use some old snv with my patch on fader-ranges, so that even updating
> to new snv,
> not mentioning 2.1hv, is a hassle - renaming dirs etc.
>
> BTW- is the fader-range problem somehow solved in 2.1?

No, just a workaround (like in svn, but using fixed ranges values as options, 
instead of a free textbox).

Marcin, can you send me your patch to the fader-range problem?

bye,
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Re: [CinCVS] Projector, camera

2006-07-12 Thread Joe Stewart
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 05:00, Marcin Kostur wrote:
> Suppose i want to slowly pan a picture (slideshow). It seems to
> be that  translation is always rounded to 1pixel. In Effect -
> the motion jitters.
>
> Did you have the same? Should it not be subpixel interpolated?
>
> All my exprienced with camera/projector led to conclusion that it is
> better not to use them at all. The controll is difficult, and
> rendering bad (especially with interlacing video).
>
> I always wonder - how other people use it? Do you have any tips,hacks
> etc for
> using projector/camera?

For camera automation, you can use the motion blur plugin to make the 
jitters a little easier on the eyes during a fast pan. I've never 
really noticed a problem with a slow pan, but I'm not using interlaced 
source material. 

-Joe

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Re: [CinCVS] Projector, camera

2006-07-12 Thread Joe Friedrichsen

Marcin Kostur wrote:
I have, for example , a tip for using a title. Note that titler in 
cinelerra is really
badly rendering - since the edges of fonts are sharp. What i do is to 
put all
titles in separate track and at the very end add blur with small 
(1-2pix) radius.
The result is excellent. The only drawback is that blur makes playback 
2x slower ;-))

so for editing i set it to "Off" and for Redering to "On".


Sounds like you're rendering back to DV; I've noticed this as well. 
However, by changing the target codec, the titler doesn't have any 
'blur'. I've used yuv4mpeg pipes successfully for both mencoder and 
mpeg2enc, so there is a wide selection of codecs available.


However, I'm still experiencing the title flicker 
(https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2006-July/006863.html) 
and my only work-around so far is to use overlayed images.


I've recently made problems for myself with the camera, but they belong 
in a separate thread. :)


Joe





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[CinCVS] "Show keyframe settings" dialog box invisible

2006-07-12 Thread Joe Friedrichsen

Hi everyone,

While using camera automation to pan over still shots, I've somehow 
disabled the "keyframe settings" dialog box (the box that reports the 
current keyframe's X, Y, and zoom positions and allows you to enter 
exact values). Clicking on the "Adjust camera automation" button in the 
compositor doesn't show the box anymore, neither does selecting "Show 
keyframe settings" from the right click menu of a keyframe (X|Y|zoom). 
Nothing happens.


Furthermore, the entire dialog box 'class' appears to have been 
disabled: selecting "Show keyframe setttings" by right clicking an audio 
fade keyframe does nothing as well.


In trying to fix the problem, I've moved ~/.bcast to force cinelerra 
into making a new home for itself. I've also upgraded from debian/sid 
20060605 to 20060606 from kiberpipa.org/~minmax/cinelerra/builds/pentium4


Has anyone else encountered this problem? Do you have any suggestions? 
I'd file a bug report, but I can't reproduce the problem, nor can I 
_exactly_ remember the state of everything during that editing session.


Thanks,
Joe





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Re: [CinCVS] Effects order.

2006-07-12 Thread Andraz Tori
you select the area where you want to apply the plugin, before dragging
it...

bye
andraz

On sre, 2006-07-12 at 10:50 +0200, Marcin Kostur wrote:
> Dear Users,
> 
> There is the next problem i have with snv 2.0:
> 
> Suppose i have two video tracks which i would like to join with
> a transition. Additionally i need to corret colors (e.g. histogram) on 
> those tracks,
> but the color correction depends on the shot - (e.g one was couldy one 
> sunny).
> 
> What should i do?
> 
> If i apply histogram to each track, then the transition will use 
> uncorrected part
> in overlapping moment (is it a bug?). If I apply histogram to the whole 
> video
> then the control over histogram parameters becomes very difficult
> (invisible keyframe settings). Stacking tracks is also very cumbersome
> (suppose i have 20 of them ;-)
> The way i did  it was "correct a track and render" but it introduced 
> unecessary
> DV-reencoding.
> 
> Do you have any tips?
> 
> The best
>   
>   Marcin
> 
> 
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[CinCVS] Projector, camera

2006-07-12 Thread Marcin Kostur

Hi,

The last harrasment from my side...

Suppose i want to slowly pan a picture (slideshow). It seems to
be that  translation is always rounded to 1pixel. In Effect -
the motion jitters.

Did you have the same? Should it not be subpixel interpolated?

All my exprienced with camera/projector led to conclusion that it is better
not to use them at all. The controll is difficult, and rendering bad
(especially with interlacing video).

I always wonder - how other people use it? Do you have any tips,hacks 
etc for

using projector/camera?

I have, for example , a tip for using a title. Note that titler in 
cinelerra is really
badly rendering - since the edges of fonts are sharp. What i do is to 
put all
titles in separate track and at the very end add blur with small 
(1-2pix) radius.
The result is excellent. The only drawback is that blur makes playback 
2x slower ;-))

so for editing i set it to "Off" and for Redering to "On".


the best

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[CinCVS] Effects order.

2006-07-12 Thread Marcin Kostur

Dear Users,

There is the next problem i have with snv 2.0:

Suppose i have two video tracks which i would like to join with
a transition. Additionally i need to corret colors (e.g. histogram) on 
those tracks,
but the color correction depends on the shot - (e.g one was couldy one 
sunny).


What should i do?

If i apply histogram to each track, then the transition will use 
uncorrected part
in overlapping moment (is it a bug?). If I apply histogram to the whole 
video

then the control over histogram parameters becomes very difficult
(invisible keyframe settings). Stacking tracks is also very cumbersome
(suppose i have 20 of them ;-)
The way i did  it was "correct a track and render" but it introduced 
unecessary

DV-reencoding.

Do you have any tips?

The best

Marcin



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[CinCVS] c2 c2.1 ... many versions

2006-07-12 Thread Marcin Kostur

Dear CUsers,

Cinelerra used to be compiled with static paths and always has to be 
"installed".
It is possible to marke cinerella version which uses some given dir the 
best would be
to use the source dir directly. So that i could have 2, 3 versions 
working at the same time?
The problem with .bcast dir also remains... ;-) it should bear some 
version number

like .bcast2.1 etc.

I use some old snv with my patch on fader-ranges, so that even updating 
to new snv,

not mentioning 2.1hv, is a hassle - renaming dirs etc.

BTW- is the fader-range problem somehow solved in 2.1?

The best

Marcin

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