[CinCVS] Rev 839?

2006-08-14 Thread Slavko Igric
I can't update my cinelerra, after svn up it just say At revision 839. Svn 
info say:
Path: .
URL: svn://svn.skolelinux.org/cinelerra/trunk/hvirtual
Repository Root: svn://svn.skolelinux.org/cinelerra
Repository UUID: 63c748be-9503-0410-9ed2-ccc9d512861e
Revision: 839
Node Kind: directory
Schedule: normal
Last Changed Author: pmdumuid
Last Changed Rev: 839
Last Changed Date: 2006-07-09 10:02:47 +0200 (Ned, 09 Srp 2006)

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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra on Ubuntu

2006-08-14 Thread Leonardo


--- Raffaella Traniello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have very important documentary footage with low quality
 sound (eg
 wind noise...). Can Cinelerra help me improve it?

Ciao Raffaella,
for the sound you can think of exporting it separately of the
video once the editing is complete in Cinelerra, and 'improve'
it on an application that's designed for audio editing, as for
example audacity:  http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
It's easy to install in ubuntu, it's also preatty easy to be
used and it has a quite decent number of filters.

Ciao, Leo

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Re: [CinCVS] Suse 10.1 Error on make

2006-08-14 Thread Johannes Sixt
On Monday 14 August 2006 06:45, Daniel Jircik wrote:
 I'm getting an error on make, with SVN and Heroines source on a new suse
 10.1 install
 AMD 64x2
 Heres the message
 Thanks in advance
 Daniel

 +++
 Error on make SVN HVIRTUAL
 +++

 BITS=64 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -I./.. -g -O2 -MT x264.lo -MD
 -MP -MF .deps/x264.Tpo -c x264.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/x264.o
 x264.c: In function 'X264_init':
 x264.c:139: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'b_cbr'

Get an _older_ version x264. If you are not using the h264 encoder, you can 
also edit /usr/include/x264.h to add

int b_cbr;

at line 249. (But this will likely crash the encoder if you change your mind 
and use it.)

-- Hannes

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Fwd: Re: [CinCVS] Suse 10.1 Error on make [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-08-14 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)

Retrying with the correct identity, sorry.

Le 14.08.2006 21:26:59, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) a écrit :
Le 14.08.2006 18:58:20, Johannes Sixt a écrit :

On Monday 14 August 2006 06:45, Daniel Jircik wrote:
 I'm getting an error on make, with SVN and Heroines source on a new
suse
 10.1 install
 AMD 64x2
 Heres the message
 Thanks in advance
 Daniel

 +++
 Error on make SVN HVIRTUAL
 +++

 BITS=64 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -I./.. -g -O2 -MT x264.lo
-MD
 -MP -MF .deps/x264.Tpo -c x264.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/x264.o
 x264.c: In function 'X264_init':
 x264.c:139: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'b_cbr'

Get an _older_ version x264.


But, latest cvs version of ffmpeg *need* the nexer x264...
So, this *will* become a problem.


Regards

Jean-Luc


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Re: [CinCVS] SIGSEGV on render.

2006-08-14 Thread Andraž Tori
running it through gdb and posting full backtraces (apply thread all bt)
would help...

also compile and link with -g if you can...

bye
andraz

On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 16:38 -0500, mack wrote:
 After working my way through building cinelerra, I finally got it
 running happily, i thought, on my Ubuntu amd64 machine, using the
 information at the Ubuntu forums and the newsgroup, ending up with a
 running copy of r836.
 
 Now, I can successfully load media (imported as quicktime in kino) and
 make splices/transitions, but whenever I tell it to render (following
 the directions in the Rob Fisher tutorial) it SIGSEGV's with this
 output:
 http://www.mackallison.net/index.php?title=Error_message_whenever_I_tell_it_to_render
 
 
 
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Re: [CinCVS] SIGSEGV on render.

2006-08-14 Thread mack
I think I compiled it with the -g flags as requested now, by doing:

./configure CFLAGS=-g LDFLAGS=-g --enable-pic

and of course make clean, make, and make install

I'm not sure how you want me to run this through gdb to get the right
info.

Thx,
Mack


On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 23:47 +0200, Andraž Tori wrote:
 running it through gdb and posting full backtraces (apply thread all bt)
 would help...
 
 also compile and link with -g if you can...
 
 bye
 andraz
 
 On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 16:38 -0500, mack wrote:
  After working my way through building cinelerra, I finally got it
  running happily, i thought, on my Ubuntu amd64 machine, using the
  information at the Ubuntu forums and the newsgroup, ending up with a
  running copy of r836.
  
  Now, I can successfully load media (imported as quicktime in kino) and
  make splices/transitions, but whenever I tell it to render (following
  the directions in the Rob Fisher tutorial) it SIGSEGV's with this
  output:
  http://www.mackallison.net/index.php?title=Error_message_whenever_I_tell_it_to_render
  
  
  
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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra on Ubuntu

2006-08-14 Thread Ichthyostega
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Raffaella Traniello schrieb:
 When I prewiew my work on the compositor I see very dirty junctions, not 
 smooth at all, with
 sound and video breaks. Is it the final quality? I'm starting now to put 
 video effects on my
 project. I've heard about loss of video quality, but I'm quite shocked at 
 seeing it.

Hello Raffaella,

I don't quite understand what you denote by dirty junctions. Do you
mean transitions? Are you using the HV Version of cinellerra 2.0?

There was a severe problem with transitions which made the normal
dissolve transition almost useless. It caused flickering and arbritrary
colors in the image during the transition (as if the images were solarized).
This has been fixed in the CV-Version and definitively convinced me to
switch over at the beginning of this year.


As long as you don't render and re-introduce the rendered footage into
your project, there should be no generational quality loss, as all plugins
and effects are calculated on-the-fly based on your original footage.
Of course, some plugins can introduce artifactes (e.g. banding) for
some specific parameter values, but this is another storry.


 Is Cinelerra really a professional software? Do you use it for high quality 
 movies?
This question is somewhat difficult to answer. If you mean with
»professional« == I paid a huge amount of mony and now I just have
to press the red button and automagically everything settles down, so I can
catch the tightest deadline then -- cinelerra pobably is not professional
software ;-)

I am using it with the goal to produce high quality material. If you know
to avoid some possible glitches and pitfalls (and many of these are simple
a natural consequence of the way images and sound are processed) and --
morover -- figure out how to get things working as you expect, then cinelerra
can deliver all the quality you want

 I think I'm scared  :-)
I can tell you: I felt much more scared all the time I used Premiere;
there, I always had the feeling to be at the mercy of some big anonymous entity
and as if my being able to do what I inted and invent really doesn't count...

 Did anyone ever compared Cinelerra to Adobe Premiere Pro?

Guess such comparision would be a very uneven comparison, PPro being fostered
by one of the bigest graphics/media companies, sold to a comparatively
high price level -- think at all the resources they can throw in...

Rather, the intersting question is: why are people not just
shouting and running away form cinelerra? The answer is:
it actually /is/ working for them, it helps us getting
done what we can imagine. You can tell this from looking at
this community: you see new names pop up, people asking the
first, shy newbee questions. Then you see the same people asking
more and more advanced questions, some of which you yourself
couldn't even imagine of, and at some point you see the same
people helping others knowledgeably...

Cheers,
Hermann V.

...sitting here in Munich, Germany late at night,
eager to try out the newest XaraLX 0.7 


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Re: [CinCVS] SIGSEGV on render.

2006-08-14 Thread mack
an update: I can render to raw DV that plays back in mplayer, but not
quicktime or avi.  I'm I just missing something or doing something
retarded?

On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 23:47 +0200, Andraž Tori wrote:
 running it through gdb and posting full backtraces (apply thread all bt)
 would help...
 
 also compile and link with -g if you can...
 
 bye
 andraz
 
 On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 16:38 -0500, mack wrote:
  After working my way through building cinelerra, I finally got it
  running happily, i thought, on my Ubuntu amd64 machine, using the
  information at the Ubuntu forums and the newsgroup, ending up with a
  running copy of r836.
  
  Now, I can successfully load media (imported as quicktime in kino) and
  make splices/transitions, but whenever I tell it to render (following
  the directions in the Rob Fisher tutorial) it SIGSEGV's with this
  output:
  http://www.mackallison.net/index.php?title=Error_message_whenever_I_tell_it_to_render
  
  
  
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