Re: [CinCVS] Locking Labels
Heeh, I guess the first step to thinking better is to realised that computer applications are not female in nature. From my experience, I've found that relating to girls like I do computer programs doesn't work very well! I've found (and still do) that girls don't like to be treated in an object-orientated fashion! There is no class that can define them! :) You're right, labels are fixed in drag and drop mode. I don't actually use drag-and-drop mode myself and didn't notice it. Someone may fix it so that labels move with drag-and-drop, but at the moment, I don't know what other developers would be doing.. Pierre Raffaella Traniello wrote: G'day Pierre! I'm very selfish. I confess my first aim is to think like Cinelerra, to make it more likely that I get from her what I ask. My second aim is to make Cinelerra think like me, to better shape the software I use. My third aim is more of a dream: to think like you! You see inside the depth of Cinelerra, I don't. I see the surface only. >From up here I see labels fixed at time positions or labels following an edit in cut-and-paste editing mode (they really look to me as non fixed at time positions). In drag-and-drop mode labels seems fixed again to time positions. They never follow an edit, even with the "edit labels" option on. Looking down from my soft armchair I see hard working Cinelerra developers using a magic trick to make labels following edits in one editing mode but not in the other. That's all my understanding can do. Feel free to code up relationships if you like ;) Give me 20 years and I will! :-) Thanks for all your thinking, Pierre! Have a nice day down under! Ciao Raffaella On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 11:03 +1030, Pierre Dumuid wrote: Hi Raffaella, Yes all those are very good ideas, and we likely share the same thinking but it takes time / work to implement those ideas. Indeed labels should be tied to something but they are not. The labels are decoupled from anything whatsoever except time positions. In the default mode, (unlocked) if you paste / cut / insert silence before labels, regardless of weather you have any tracks enabled or not, the labels will move by the cut / paste amount accordingly. If the labels are locked then cut / paste operations don't move the labels. Feel free to code up relationships if you like ;) Pierre ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra -- __ Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ Mr Pierre Dumuid Phd Student Active Noise and Vibration Control Group School of Mechanical Engineering The University of Adelaide SA 5005 AUSTRALIA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: +61 (0)8 8303 3847 Mobile: 0407 570 263 Web Page : http://www.mecheng.adelaide.edu.au/ __ CRICOS Provider Number 00123M --- This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. No representation is made that this email or any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. begin:vcard fn:Pierre Dumuid n:Dumuid;Pierre org:The University of Adelaide;Mechanical Engineering adr:;;;Adelaide;South Australia;5005;Australia email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Postgraduate Student tel;work:8303 3847 tel;home:8388 5727 tel;cell:0407570263 note:CRICOS Provider Number 00123M x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.adelaide.edu.au version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [CinCVS] Locking Labels
G'day Pierre! I'm very selfish. I confess my first aim is to think like Cinelerra, to make it more likely that I get from her what I ask. My second aim is to make Cinelerra think like me, to better shape the software I use. My third aim is more of a dream: to think like you! You see inside the depth of Cinelerra, I don't. I see the surface only. >From up here I see labels fixed at time positions or labels following an edit in cut-and-paste editing mode (they really look to me as non fixed at time positions). In drag-and-drop mode labels seems fixed again to time positions. They never follow an edit, even with the "edit labels" option on. Looking down from my soft armchair I see hard working Cinelerra developers using a magic trick to make labels following edits in one editing mode but not in the other. That's all my understanding can do. > Feel free to code up relationships if you like ;) Give me 20 years and I will! :-) Thanks for all your thinking, Pierre! Have a nice day down under! Ciao Raffaella On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 11:03 +1030, Pierre Dumuid wrote: > Hi Raffaella, > > Yes all those are very good ideas, and we likely share the same thinking > but it takes time / work to implement those ideas. Indeed labels should > be tied to something but they are not. The labels are decoupled from > anything whatsoever except time positions. In the default mode, > (unlocked) if you paste / cut / insert silence before labels, regardless > of weather you have any tracks enabled or not, the labels will move by > the cut / paste amount accordingly. If the labels are locked then cut / > paste operations don't move the labels. > > Feel free to code up relationships if you like ;) > > Pierre ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Importing files recored with kino
Problem solved, i recompiled both (Kino and Cinelerra) and now it works. Cheers, BF. Andraž Tori wrote: can you create a small file, upload is somewhere and submit a bugreport? bye adnraz On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 12:59 +0100, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: Andraž Tori wrote: two things. 1) use latest kino and latest svn cinelerra Yep, i do. 2) don't forget to have right extensions - .avi, .mov and .dv The extensions are automatically done by kino while recording. BF. On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 15:47 +0100, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: Hello, I have recorded a movie from a miniDV camera using kino. But i can´t open / import the file in cinelerra. I then tested to record in kino with all format´s available (dv1, dv2, and raw dv) but none of these can be imported in cinelerra. Everytime when i try to load a file recorded with kino i get the dialog "File format can not be recognized". Thanks for any hints/help. Cheers, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Mandriva packaging.
There are Mandriva packages on PLF. So someone is building them.On 11/13/06, Sylvain Jousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Hi,Wouldn't it be interesting to build RPM package?Like for Mandriva 2007. Sylvain.___Cinelerra mailing listCinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra-- Matt Pfingstenwww.GotWookiee.com
Re: [CinCVS] external dependencies ubuntu packages
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 13:51 +0100, muzzol wrote: > 2006/11/13, Andraž Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 13:32 +0100, muzzol wrote: > > > hi! > > > > > > im working on packages. i can see gandalf decided to repackage > > > mjpegtools to create his packages. > > > > > > do you think is this necessary or can we stay with marillat's ones? > > > > if possible, use marillat. > > > > if you need any help, mail gandalf, he will probably help you > > ok, i'll do that. > > another (maybe silly) question: what name should we use? i don't wanna > start another who-we-are flame, but if in the future Heroine starts > packaging his own version we'll have a problem. > possibilities: > or just > > cinelerra yes, just cinelerra > > this question also makes me wonder about what is best path for > installing cinelerra. if we use standard distribution system all goes > under /usr, but this can conflict with other packages/compilations. do > you think is better to use /usr/local/uniquename ? no, for deb package, definitely not > sorry for this questions but i said i want to do it, not i know how to do it > ;) andraz ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] external dependencies ubuntu packages
2006/11/13, Andraž Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 13:32 +0100, muzzol wrote: > hi! > > im working on packages. i can see gandalf decided to repackage > mjpegtools to create his packages. > > do you think is this necessary or can we stay with marillat's ones? if possible, use marillat. if you need any help, mail gandalf, he will probably help you ok, i'll do that. another (maybe silly) question: what name should we use? i don't wanna start another who-we-are flame, but if in the future Heroine starts packaging his own version we'll have a problem. possibilities: cinelerra-cvs cinelerra-community cinelerra-fork cinelerra-unofficial or just cinelerra this question also makes me wonder about what is best path for installing cinelerra. if we use standard distribution system all goes under /usr, but this can conflict with other packages/compilations. do you think is better to use /usr/local/uniquename ? sorry for this questions but i said i want to do it, not i know how to do it ;) muzzol -- ^ ^ O O (_ _) muzzol(a)gmail.com jabber id: muzzol(a)jabber.dk No atribueixis qualitats humanes als ordinadors. No els hi agrada. "El gobierno español sólo habla con terroristas, homosexuales y catalanes, a ver cuando se decide a hablar con gente normal" Jiménez Losantos bomb terrorism bush aznar teletubbies
Re: [CinCVS] external dependencies ubuntu packages
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 13:32 +0100, muzzol wrote: > hi! > > im working on packages. i can see gandalf decided to repackage > mjpegtools to create his packages. > > do you think is this necessary or can we stay with marillat's ones? if possible, use marillat. if you need any help, mail gandalf, he will probably help you b ye andraz ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Mandriva packaging.
Hi, Wouldn't it be interesting to build RPM package? Like for Mandriva 2007. Sylvain. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] external dependencies ubuntu packages
hi! im working on packages. i can see gandalf decided to repackage mjpegtools to create his packages. do you think is this necessary or can we stay with marillat's ones? regards, -- ^ ^ O O (_ _) muzzol(a)gmail.com jabber id: muzzol(a)jabber.dk No atribueixis qualitats humanes als ordinadors. No els hi agrada. "El gobierno español sólo habla con terroristas, homosexuales y catalanes, a ver cuando se decide a hablar con gente normal" Jiménez Losantos bomb terrorism bush aznar teletubbies )ޕ��jf��)��+- )ޕ��j�(��b��g�mx��)鮉��f��f���(��b��g��b�ا~�܊w�z�
Re: [CinCVS] ubuntu packaging
2006/11/12, Wesley T Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: So, what would it take - contact HV and see what's up and how we can fix it? HV's please with the symbiotic relationship between their code and the community project so I can't imagine that it would take that difficult to resolve if we get knowledgable parties working together. I'd love to have cinelerra included in ubuntu by default... agree. we should find a compromise with HV, explain them licensing problems and pick a solution. BTW: are the new ubuntu packages up yet, I'd love to test them against my compiled version...I still can't see the waveform... no, i'm still learning about all packaging system. i don't really have much time, but i hope once all stuff works this wont take me so much time. muzzol -- ^ ^ O O (_ _) muzzol(a)gmail.com jabber id: muzzol(a)jabber.dk No atribueixis qualitats humanes als ordinadors. No els hi agrada. "El gobierno español sólo habla con terroristas, homosexuales y catalanes, a ver cuando se decide a hablar con gente normal" Jiménez Losantos bomb terrorism bush aznar teletubbies )ޕ��jf��)��+- )ޕ��j�(��b��g�mx��)鮉��f��f���(��b��g��b�ا~�܊w�z�
