[CinCVS] HDV books

2007-01-28 Thread Terje J. Hanssen
I've searched the web for books about HDV. This to get a better
understanding about the HDV format from camcording, to editing and
viewing. I ended up ordering this current newest book I found available:

Working with HDV, Shoot, Edit, and Deliver Your High Definition Video
Publication Date: 30 October 2006
http://books.elsevier.com/uk/focalbooks/uk/subindex.asp?isbn=978024080country=United+Kingdomcommunity=focalbooksref=mscssid=PCNGBDB97NRF9K4D0K3PBNEKEF4T73P3


Other books I also noticed:
http://www.vasst.com/product.aspx?id=ed515883-935a-4037-aef0-0ad68139e940
http://www.amazon.com/How-Shoot-Edit-Distribute-HDV/dp/0977744108/ref=dp_return_1/105-0189801-2250073?ie=UTF8n=283155s=books
http://www.amazon.com/Video-Shooter-Storytelling-Cameras-Expert/dp/1578202892/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b/002-7876153-7647249

and coming soon:
How Video Works, Publication Date: 11 May 2007
http://books.elsevier.com/uk/focalbooks/uk/subindex.asp?isbn=9780240809335country=United+Kingdomcommunity=focalbooksref=mscssid=PCNGBDB97NRF9K4D0K3PBNEKEF4T73P3

High Definition Postproduction, Editing and Delivering HD Video, *Publ.* 22 
January 2007
http://books.elsevier.com/uk/focalbooks/uk/subindex.asp?isbn=9780240808390country=United+Kingdomcommunity=focalbooksref=mscssid=PCNGBDB97NRF9K4D0K3PBNEKEF4T73P3


I'm interested to hear if somebody has read any of these books?
Other suggestions?

Is there any known book project in work for Cinelerra?


Rgds,
Terje J. Hanssen


 




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Re: [CinCVS] [PATCH] Load support for FFV1 - crash included :-)

2007-01-28 Thread Alberto Mardegan

Here is some gdb info about the crash.

The error:
Program received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception.
[Switching to Thread -1443935312 (LWP 16044)]
0x08137df0 in AssetPicon::create_objects (this=0x8d040a0) at 
awindowgui.C:149
149 pixmap_w = pixmap_h * 
asset-width / asset-height;



and it's due to the fact that width and height in the asset struct are 
0. And the asset struct looks a bit weird to me:



(gdb) p *asset
$1 = {ListItemAsset = {_vptr.ListItem = 0x8300aa8, previous = 0x0, 
next = 0x0,

owner = 0x853ae30}, GarbageObject = {_vptr.GarbageObject = 0x8300ab8,
users = 1385, deleted = 0, title = 0x8530f10 Asset},
  path = /lacie/Miei/cattura.avi, '\0' repeats 805 times, 
/dev/dsp, '\0' repeats 187 times,
  pipe = '\0' repeats 828 times, 
\020\000\000\000\000\000\000\000?\000\000\000/dev/dv1394, '\0' 
repeats 172 times, use_pipe = 0,

  folder = Media, '\0' repeats 1018 times, format = 24, audio_data = 1,
  channels = 2, sample_rate = 32000, bits = 16, byte_order = 0, signed_ 
= 0,

  header = 0, dither = 0,
  acodec = \001\000os, '\0' repeats 800 times, default, '\0' 
repeats 212 times,
  audio_length = 15988255, video_data = 1, layers = 0, frame_rate = 
29.970029970029969,
  reel_name = cin, '\0' repeats 773 times, 
\020\000\000\000\200\000\000\002\000\000\000H,[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
'\0' repeats 31 times, /dev/dsp, '\0' repeats 167 times, 
reel_number = 0,

  tcstart = 0, tcend = 0, tcformat = 0, width = 0, height = 0,
  vcodec = yuv2, '\0' repeats 812 times, /dev/dsp, '\0' repeats 
199 times,
  video_length = 0, ampeg_bitrate = 256, ampeg_derivative = 3, 
vorbis_min_bitrate = -1,

  vorbis_bitrate = 128000, vorbis_max_bitrate = -1, vorbis_vbr = 0,
  theora_fix_bitrate = 1, theora_bitrate = 86, theora_quality = 16,
  theora_sharpness = 2, theora_keyframe_frequency = 64,
  theora_keyframe_force_frequency = 64, mp3_bitrate = 256000, 
mp4a_bitrate = 256000,

  mp4a_quantqual = 100, aspect_ratio = -1, interlace_autofixoption = 1,
  interlace_mode = 0, interlace_fixmethod = 0, jpeg_quality = 100,
  vmpeg_iframe_distance = 45, vmpeg_progressive = 0, vmpeg_denoise = 1,
  vmpeg_seq_codes = 0, vmpeg_bitrate = 100, vmpeg_derivative = 1,
  vmpeg_quantization = 15, vmpeg_cmodel = 0, vmpeg_fix_bitrate = 0, 
vmpeg_preset = 0,

  vmpeg_field_order = 0, vmpeg_pframe_distance = 0, divx_bitrate = 200,
  divx_rc_period = 50, divx_rc_reaction_ratio = 45, 
divx_rc_reaction_period = 10,
  divx_max_key_interval = 250, divx_max_quantizer = 31, 
divx_min_quantizer = 1,
  divx_quantizer = 5, divx_quality = 5, divx_fix_bitrate = 1, 
h264_bitrate = 200,
  h264_quantizer = 5, h264_fix_bitrate = 0, divx_use_deblocking = 1, 
png_use_alpha = 0,
  exr_use_alpha = 0, exr_compression = 0, tiff_cmodel = 0, 
tiff_compression = 0,

  ms_bitrate = 100, ms_bitrate_tolerance = 50, ms_interlaced = 0,
  ms_quantization = 10, ms_gop_size = 45, ms_fix_bitrate = 1, 
ac3_bitrate = 128,

  use_header = 1, index_status = 0, index_zoom = 128, index_start = 705,
  index_bytes = 606475408, index_end = 0, old_index_end = 0, 
index_offsets = 0x8535c80,

  index_sizes = 0x8cd7e98, index_buffer = 0x0, id = 46}


I said it looks weird, because while I was debugging the loading of the 
video, it detected the video format correctly: the vcodec was set to 
FFV1, width to 320 and height to 240. Then I got lost in the debugging 
session, and I let gdb continue, till this error was reached.
So, I wonder where the correct asset object has gone, and where this 
yuv2 codec comes from.


The backtrace:

(gdb) bt
#0  0x08137df0 in AssetPicon::create_objects (this=0x8d040a0) at 
awindowgui.C:149
#1  0x08138b2b in AWindowGUI::update_asset_list (this=0x89c3070) at 
awindowgui.C:798
#2  0x08138e8b in AWindowGUI::update_assets (this=0x89c3070) at 
awindowgui.C:998
#3  0x081391b8 in AWindowGUI::recieve_custom_xatoms (this=0x0, 
event=0x8da2910)

at awindowgui.C:599
#4  0xb7ad32f4 in BC_WindowBase::dispatch_event (this=0x89c3070) at 
bcwindowbase.C:727
#5  0xb7ad3798 in BC_WindowBase::run_window (this=0x89c3070) at 
bcwindowbase.C:614

#6  0xb7ae5cbf in Thread::entrypoint (parameters=0x89c2c30) at thread.C:48
#7  0xb757dced in start_thread () from /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0
#8  0xb7400dee in clone () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6


Someone can please tell me what happened? :-O

Ciao,
  Alberto


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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra flash and video training demos?

2007-01-28 Thread Andraž Tori
On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 10:37 +0100, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
 Recognizing that flash demos and video training have become usual and
 useful not at least for work with video editing systems, I wonder:

yes. they indeed are useful.

 Are there already available or planned something like this for Cinelerra?

no

 Are the required tools and documented use to make them available?

probably

 Wouldn't it be cool if flash demos could be linked into the wiki and
 manual?  Larger video files could be downloaded and possibly collected
 on a training or live DVD.
 
 Just some thoughts.

you volunteering?

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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra flash and video training demos?

2007-01-28 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)

Le 28.01.2007 12:35:41, Andraž Tori a écrit :

On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 10:37 +0100, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
 Recognizing that flash demos and video training have become usual
and
 useful not at least for work with video editing systems, I wonder:

yes. they indeed are useful.


Yes, very useful but is Flash really a good (the best) choice in an  
open source context?


/Jean-Luc who hate flash



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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra flash and video training demos?

2007-01-28 Thread Nicolas Maufrais
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 10:37:16AM +0100, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
 Recognizing that flash demos and video training have become usual and
 useful not at least for work with video editing systems, I wonder:
 
 Are there already available or planned something like this for Cinelerra?
 Are the required tools and documented use to make them available?
 
 Wouldn't it be cool if flash demos could be linked into the wiki and
 manual?  Larger video files could be downloaded and possibly collected
 on a training or live DVD.
 
 Just some thoughts.

Terje,

The Source already made some nice video tutorials about Cinelerra. They
agreed to donate them to the Cinelerra-CV community. I already started
adding the subtitles a week ago. 50% of the first tutorial is done, and
then I discovered a nasty bug in the subtitle editor I used. The bug was
quickly fixed by the developer, and now I continue to add the subtitles.
I then hope those subtitles will be translated, since not all the
Cinelerra-CV users speak English...

Anyway, a link to the (original/without subtitles) tutorials are already
in the manual:
http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_1.html#SEC6
or
http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/wiki/doku.php?id=english_manual:cinelerra_cv_en_1#tutorials

Nicolas Maufrais.

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Re: [CinCVS] HDV books

2007-01-28 Thread Nicolas Maufrais
Terje,

On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 09:53:50AM +0100, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
 I'm interested to hear if somebody has read any of these books?
 Other suggestions?

I'm not quite sure those books will be really useful for helping you to
edit HDV with Cinelerra. The latest addition in the Wiki about HDV, made
by Marcin Kostur is probably more useful for that. However, they could
help you to understand the principles of HDV, for sure.

 Is there any known book project in work for Cinelerra?

I don't think so. However, some time ago a book was published about
Broadcast 2000, which is the ancestor of Cinelerra:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Broadcast-2000-C-Fulton/dp/1886411700
I think it's so out of date now that it's almost useless...

I'll put in the manual what Marcin added in the Wiki in the following
days. Any additional information about editing HDV in Cinelerra is
welcome.

Nicolas Maufrais.

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[CinCVS] File too large

2007-01-28 Thread E.Chalaron

Hello There

I am using Cinelerra mostly for editing movie transfer, ending up with 
files up to 50 GB in XGA per file (Quicktime uncompressed 2vuy 8 bits 422)

From time to time I get the message : file too large 

Anything that can be done ?
Thanks a lot
E

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