Re: [CinCVS] I added Ark Linux to the "get Cinelerra" page.
Herman, Nice! scott On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 21:24 +0200, Herman Robak wrote: > Bernhard Rosenkränzer mailed me and told that Cinelerra-CV > is now in Ark Linux' repository. > ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Req: Cinelerra plugin architecture
Hi, My mind has often turned to the subject of plugins for Cinelerra, and how to make this a true killer feature. I'd like to suggest a change to the plugin architecture - allow dynamically loaded plugins, compiled separately from Cinelerra. I notice that part of Cin's installation is a directory $PREFIX/lib/cinelerra, which contains shared libs for the plugins. What would be great is if Cin could also look in ~/.cinelerra/plugins, where this directory has a bunch of subdirectories, one per plugin. Each subdirectory would contain the shared libs, plus any data files and other stuff needed by the plugin. Also, to have a Cinelerra SDK, which contains: - a template video plugin and a temporary audio plugin; each of these would be a directory containing autocrap files and heavily-commented source code; each of these plugin directories could also contain: - a README file which explains how to tweak the autocraps to add any required dependencies etc - the generated Makefile could have targets 'install' (which requires root, and installs to $PREFIX/lib/cinelerra), and 'install-user', which installs to ~/.cinelerra/plugins - full documentation on the plugin API - all classes, methods, attributes etc - maybe Doxygen-generated - the ability for plugins to be compiled separately from the main Cinelerra source tree, and linked against a Cinelerra shared lib; IMHO, this would strongly support and encourage more Cinelerra plugin development. What would also be great is a way to have a plugin architecture which allows the ability to operate on Cinelerra as a whole, rather than within specific audio/video tracks. Such an architecture would allow plugins to be written to provide scripting interfaces, remote control interfaces via sockets etc. Within such an environment, a 'super-plugin' could see an API which allows access to every aspect of Cinelerra through a set of objects, including: - querying the timeline - finding out what tracks there are, what effects/automations are applied to these tracks etc - importing clips - operating on tracks - doing renders - etc Thoughts? Cheers David ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Open Movie Editor
On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 21:19 +0100, mark carter wrote: > In my travels I came across Open Movie Editor. There's a demo of it over > on YouTube: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ljEb1PdEdM > The main website is: > http://openmovieeditor.sourceforge.net/HomePage > A cinelerra beater, perhaps?? I think it appeals more to beginners. On the positive side, the developer's use of FLTK for the GUI is wise, he has a very fast responsive interface. Also, having everything on one window is nice. His window layout is very good. On the negative side, it's not a patch on Cinelerra feature-wise. Sure, it's easier to learn, but one would get frustrated pretty fast. Cinelerra is well worth the time spent reading the manual, playing around, scratching one's head and figuring things out. It's got enough features to keep an amateur movie-maker satisfied for a long time; maybe even professionals could find it quite bearable. Cheers David ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Open Movie Editor
On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 17:29 -0400, Claude Jones wrote: > On Monday August 6 2007 4:19:54 pm mark carter wrote: > > In my travels I came across Open Movie Editor. There's a demo > I'm curious - did you try this software before posting the above? > I am asking because I did... I hadn't tried it, but I intend to. I take it you're not impressed. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Open Movie Editor
On Monday August 6 2007 4:19:54 pm mark carter wrote: > In my travels I came across Open Movie Editor. There's a demo > of it over on YouTube: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ljEb1PdEdM > The main website is: > http://openmovieeditor.sourceforge.net/HomePage > > A cinelerra beater, perhaps?? > > I'm curious - did you try this software before posting the above? I'm asking because I did... -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Open Movie Editor
In my travels I came across Open Movie Editor. There's a demo of it over on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ljEb1PdEdM The main website is: http://openmovieeditor.sourceforge.net/HomePage A cinelerra beater, perhaps?? ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] I added Ark Linux to the "get Cinelerra" page.
Bernhard Rosenkränzer mailed me and told that Cinelerra-CV is now in Ark Linux' repository. -- Herman Robak ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Anyone care to comment on class FFMPEG?
I see that cinelerra/ffmpeg.C exists - but it does not appear to be linked in file.C as a detectable format. This seems a pity, because I understand it that ffmpeg can support a wide range of files and codecs. Wouldn't class FFMPEG "solve" a lot of our file loading problems? Comments? ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] What is a VFrame?
I've been trying to puzzle this out - and it seems easier to ask. What is a VFrame? ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] [Bug 440] segfault when rendering to ogg
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #218 is|0 |1 obsolete|| --- Comment #3 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-08-06 14:36 +2 --- Created an attachment (id=220) --> (http://bugs.cinelerra.org/attachment.cgi?id=220&action=view) full dvg backtrace -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] [Bug 440] segfault when rendering to ogg
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[CinCVS] [Bug 440] segfault when rendering to ogg
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440 --- Comment #1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-08-06 14:28 +2 --- Created an attachment (id=218) --> (http://bugs.cinelerra.org/attachment.cgi?id=218&action=view) backtrace log from dbg -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] [Bug 440] New: segfault when rendering to ogg
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440 Summary: segfault when rendering to ogg Product: Cinelerra Version: 2.1 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: critical Priority: Medium Component: Rendering AssignedTo: cinelerra@skolelinux.no ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cinelerra segfault when I render to ogg in replace mode. It works in insert nothing mode. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. load a file 2. render it to ogg -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Pondering quicktime bugs
On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 11:34 +0100, mark carter wrote: > I'm just throwing my thoughts > out there. I've been thinking about this. I might try to to a bit of re-architecting. My problem is I know diddly-squat about threads, processes, and IPC. And I'm thinking that might be a good thing. It would be useful if I could separate out file loading. I also think that file loading and file saving are two entirely separate ideas, so I'd probably try to isolate them. You see, the way I figure it is that the purpose of a loader is to convert a foreign file format into a VFrame. I figure that if I could come up with an intermediate representation of a VFrame - one having a flat structure, then job of Cinelerra would be to interpret this intermediate representation. This ought to be fairly easy, because the representation would be designed with Cinelerra in mind. Debugging would be much easier - there'd be no threading stuff. You'd run the program, and "bam", it fails, so you look in gdb to find out what the problem is. Maybe use valgrind to get a really good idea of what the memory leaks are. Plus, you wouldn't have to compile the whole of Cinelerra, and the functionality could be tested in isolation. This idea has a number of other benefits. You could do something like farm out the loading process to other machines. And a pretty printer could be used to provide a summary of what's in the file for debugging purposes. It would have disadvantages, too - like more hard disk usage. It's the whole question of being clever as opposed to not being clever. Threads and suchlike are too clever. I don't understand them, and the received wisdom is that they're a whole world of hurt. So my idea is to be dumber, to try to isolate and modularise the problem; because at the end of the day, a program that can't be debugged is useless. Just my thinking. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Pondering quicktime bugs
The last couple of days I have been pondering bug 408: Cine crashes when loading mp4 files. it doesn't with the same file in avi. The bug is reproducible, I just can't find out what's causing it. I'm thinking that threads are complicating the whole issue, and I'm thinking about ripping out some of the code so that I can test the file in isolation. I'm also not sure about the whole C++ thing, thinking that vanilla C would have been better. I guess I'm not really asking a question, I'm just throwing my thoughts out there. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra productions: reply to Raffaella
Op zondag 05-08-2007 om 11:07 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Scott C. Frase: > Another option would be to get a free blog through Blogger.com and make > it a group blog that can be posted to by many authors, whoever on this > list would like to contribute. This way, you don't have to worry about > the blog going down because your ISP is offline, your cable modem get > bollocksed or your box just crashed. (Speaking from what I've lived, > naturally). I think this is also a good idea. However you don't have to worry that much about the server going down, because it's a dedicated server in a datacenter. But i'm just giving you the offer, If you want to use some other system that's fine by me. > > Also, as a user of Blogger, I have to say it is nice to have something > work right out of the box that is easy to use and is reliable. And > free, no less. > > ;) > scott > > http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com > > On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 16:15 +0200, Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof wrote: > > I can offer hosting of a wordpress/drupal system on my webserver, no > > problem. > > > > Op zondag 05-08-2007 om 14:44 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Valentina > > Messeri: > > > well, we do have a web.often is aoudated, cause it's not > > > open.we need some wordpress or drupal with many > > > publishers.this way we could really be a community and show > > > cinelerra possibilities. > > > > > > is anyone available to do that? i mean, hosting and installing? > > > > > > ciao! > > > > > > > > > http://encosianima.net/ > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Raffaella I agree with you : it's important to see what can be done with > > > > Cinelerra, and a place where people can go and have a look on > > > > productions is a naecessary thing. (btw I can't see some cool italian > > > > productions in this list). > > > > BUT: > > > > What do you think about making a weblog (a blog I mean) for Cinelerra > > > > with a link on the cvs.cinelerra.org site web? I ask this question to > > > > all developpers. This weblog could be a cool place to publish all new > > > > events concerning Cinelerra (Community or hv version); that is new > > > > users' productions, new features, projects, alternatives, howtos?, etc, > > > > etc. Such a tool could permit discussions into the community, sharing > > > > and could allow the keep in archives links of past events. I think a > > > > weblog is worth a try. Don't you? > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > Roland C. > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Cinelerra mailing list > > > > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > > > > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://encosianima.net/ > > > > > > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Cinelerra mailing list > > > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > > > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > > > > > > ___ > > Cinelerra mailing list > > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > > > ___ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] git-fetch "cannot get the repository state"
Am I doing something wrong? I do % git-checkout origin % get-fetch Cannot get the repository state from git://git.pipapo.org/cinelerra/mob ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
