Re: [CinCVS] debian sid make problem and/or dependency conflict

2007-09-06 Thread Graham Evans

Norval Watson wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to compile Cinelerra from svn on debian amd64 sid..
getting a similar problem as described in 
https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2007-August/011324.html

./configure then make ends with

ar: .libs/fdct_mmx.o: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [libmpeg2enc.la] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/norv/hvirtual/mpeg2enc'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/norv/hvirtual'
make: *** [all] Error 2

My svn version..
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/hvirtual$ svn update
At revision 1019.

./configure --disable-mmx reports that OpenGL is missing
./configure --enable-mmx gives same make result as ./configure

I tried compiling because current Cinelerra package on debian sid amd64 has 
dependency conflicts ..
Cinelerra depends on libopenexr2c2a but libopenexr2ldbl is installed 


Thanx,
Norv

  
Try downgrading your nasm to etch version (0.98).  You can do this in 
synaptic (if you use that) by searching for and selecting the nasm 
package and then finding 'Force version' in one of the menus.  You pick 
the previous version then apply the change.  Once that's done select 
'lock version' so a subsequent upgrade doesn't put you back at square one.


Graham

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[CinCVS] Does the SVG via inkscape plugins work?

2007-09-06 Thread Roland
Hi all,

Do you know if the SVG via Inkscape plugin works? If it's yes, Can
somebody tell me how to use it, please?

Regards

Roland C.

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[CinCVS] switching between video tracks while keeping audio in sync

2007-09-06 Thread Robert Persson
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I'm trying to do something that ought to be very simple, but I can't
find a way to do it.

What I want to do is to switch back and forth between video tracks so
that one of the video tracks stays in sync with the sound track. In
other words I want to be able to do what they do in TV news interviews
when they intermittently show the nodding head of the interviewer and
then return to the talking head of the interviewee.

In Media 100 and Avid this is very easy to do, and in some other
editors you can work around it by splitting the main video track (i.e.
the one that is in sync with the audio) and trimming it to make a gap,
but I can't find a way to split the track. I have tried cutting a
chunk out of the track, but when I do this, everything to the right of
the cut moves left to fill the gap.

I did read some documentation a couple of weeks ago (unfortunately I
can't remember where I found it), that said you _could_ split a track
in cinelerra, and even showed a screenshot with the split button
clearly visible, but I can't find that button any more.

Is there another workaround that I am not aware of?

Many thanks in advance.


Robert
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Re: [CinCVS] switching between video tracks while keeping audio in sync

2007-09-06 Thread Raffaella Traniello
Hi Robert!

 I have tried cutting a chunk out of the track, but when I do this, 
 everything to the right of the cut moves left to fill the gap.

The operation Edit-Mute Region will replace your edit with silence.
Following edits won't move.

Keyframing the fade curve of the first video track can give similar
results with no deletion.

Cinelerra can't split an edit in two.
If you delete a single frame, you get something close to a split.

Ciao!
Raffaella


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[CinCVS] rendering for dvd, problem solved (at least work-around)

2007-09-06 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss

folks, i had considerable pain creating foolproof dvd material.
cinelerra offers rendering to yuv4mpeg pipe in either of two ways,
through mpeg2enc and mplex, or through ffmpeg and again ffmpeg.

in both cases, video and audio are rendered separately
 and then multiplexed together on the shell command line.
however, in both ways i always kept producing horrific erroneus results.


1. mpeg2enc was good in some cases and bad in others.
one of my movies kept systematically pausing for short moments
 (two or three frames duration) every few seconds. not professional.

admittedly, it only happened when played on a commercial dvd player
 through an old tv set, while on the computer it ran smooth.
however it always halted in the same places, even when burned slow.

tweaking the quantization parameter either reduced the number of halts
 but with too much loss of image quality (it looked really blocky),
 or otherwise improved quality but also increased the number of errors.


2. ffmpeg renders interlaced footage in the wrong field order.
so when played back on cheap dvd players, any motion looks horribly jerky. 
(although admittedly one new player somehow managed to play smooth.)

cinelerra's preset default ffmpeg options come in two variants.
one does not account at all for interlacing and produces wrong field order.
the other crashes with an error. so here comes the solution.

the second variant suggested in the render dialog looks like follows:
ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target dvd -ilme -ildct -hq -f mpeg2video %
the -ilme -ildct part is for interlacing, but is erroneous, thus the crash.

i changed this into the following and got a working stream:
ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target dvd -flags +ilme+ildct %
(still with error messages about faulty headers or so. but it works.)

the resulting .m2v can be further processed together with the .ac3 audio
with the following shell command, producing a dvd-compatible mpeg stream:

$ ffmpeg -i your-movie.ac3 -i your-movie.m2v -target dvd \
  -flags +ilme+ildct your-movie.mpg


that's it. check it out.
maybe someone knows how to change the preset pipe options accordingly?
and maybe someone else knows how to put this information into the manual?

:-)
cheers
georg



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Re: [CinCVS] rendering for dvd, problem solved (at least work-around)

2007-09-06 Thread Scott C. Frase
Kurt,
You've got it, essentially.  I tend to use this command to export DVD
resolution video from Cinelerra:
ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target dvd -f mpeg2video %

And then combine with exported audio using this command:
ffmpeg -i audio.fmt -i video.m2v -target dvd destinationFilename.mpg

where .fmt is wav/m2a/etc

You can refer to my more detailed explanation here:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/06/beginners-guide-to-exporting-video-from.html

scott

On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 21:22 +0200, Kurt Georg Hooss wrote:
 folks, i had considerable pain creating foolproof dvd material.
 cinelerra offers rendering to yuv4mpeg pipe in either of two ways,
 through mpeg2enc and mplex, or through ffmpeg and again ffmpeg.
 
 in both cases, video and audio are rendered separately
  and then multiplexed together on the shell command line.
 however, in both ways i always kept producing horrific erroneus results.
 
 
 1. mpeg2enc was good in some cases and bad in others.
 one of my movies kept systematically pausing for short moments
  (two or three frames duration) every few seconds. not professional.
 
 admittedly, it only happened when played on a commercial dvd player
  through an old tv set, while on the computer it ran smooth.
 however it always halted in the same places, even when burned slow.
 
 tweaking the quantization parameter either reduced the number of halts
  but with too much loss of image quality (it looked really blocky),
  or otherwise improved quality but also increased the number of errors.
 
 
 2. ffmpeg renders interlaced footage in the wrong field order.
 so when played back on cheap dvd players, any motion looks horribly jerky. 
 (although admittedly one new player somehow managed to play smooth.)
 
 cinelerra's preset default ffmpeg options come in two variants.
 one does not account at all for interlacing and produces wrong field order.
 the other crashes with an error. so here comes the solution.
 
 the second variant suggested in the render dialog looks like follows:
 ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target dvd -ilme -ildct -hq -f mpeg2video %
 the -ilme -ildct part is for interlacing, but is erroneous, thus the crash.
 
 i changed this into the following and got a working stream:
 ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target dvd -flags +ilme+ildct %
 (still with error messages about faulty headers or so. but it works.)
 
 the resulting .m2v can be further processed together with the .ac3 audio
 with the following shell command, producing a dvd-compatible mpeg stream:
 
 $ ffmpeg -i your-movie.ac3 -i your-movie.m2v -target dvd \
   -flags +ilme+ildct your-movie.mpg
 
 
 that's it. check it out.
 maybe someone knows how to change the preset pipe options accordingly?
 and maybe someone else knows how to put this information into the manual?
 
 :-)
 cheers
 georg
 
 
 


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Re: [CinCVS] No new boxes are overlaid on the video when I open the motion tracker dialog.

2007-09-06 Thread Kevin Brosius
On 2007-09-07 01:27, Thomas Levine wrote:
 I followed the directions up the part of step 14.4.33.5 (
 http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_14.html
 where I should get a new box overlaid on the video, but I don't get the box.
 What's wrong?

Maybe semething simple...  Does the motion tracker effect cover the
portion of video under the cursor on the timeline at the present time?  

Does the dialog have anything checked?  'Track translation', 'Track
Rotation'?

You are looking at the compositor window? ;)

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[CinCVS] No new boxes are overlaid on the video when I open the motion tracker dialog.

2007-09-06 Thread Thomas Levine
I followed the directions up the part of step 14.4.33.5 (
http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_14.html#SEC211)
where I should get a new box overlaid on the video, but I don't get the box.
What's wrong?

Thomas Levine


Re: [CinCVS] Does the SVG via inkscape plugins work?

2007-09-06 Thread Kevin Brosius
On 2007-09-06 14:39, Roland wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Do you know if the SVG via Inkscape plugin works? If it's yes, Can
 somebody tell me how to use it, please?
 

Maybe someone who has tried it recently will speak up.  I think you
still need a patched version of Inkscape or sodipodi to use it.  If you
have that, just dropping a 'svg to inkscape' effect on the timeline and
specifying the svg to load should work, I think.

See this message/thread:

http://e.kevb.net/lurker/message/20060527.190254.20d23c13.en.html

What distro are you running?  I may patch Inkscape for SUSE 10.2 here
and test it out.

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Re: [CinCVS] switching between video tracks while keeping audio in sync

2007-09-06 Thread Martin Ellison
This is an A-B edit right, where you want the sound from the A reel but
alternate between the A and B reels for the picture? You can have two video
tracks #1 and #2 (#2 with the A reel video) and your audio tracks from the A
reel. Track #1 gets selected clips, video only, from the B reel. You get the
B reel where there are clips and the A reel the rest of the time.

You can paste parts of your B reel at different places in the #1 track, just
remember to dis-arm the #2 video track and the audio first. Then just move
the cursor on the main timeline to where you want the start of the clip,
select the relevant parts of the B reel using [ ] and paste into the #1
track.

You can use this for cutaways to the audience, reaction shots and the like.

On 07/09/07, Daniel Jircik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What would be ideal from an old school analog tape editor like myself
 would be a  Resources Video Effect Gen Lock really a pseudo genlock.
 Pulling over  GenLock would effect all armed video tracks. Right click on
 effect shows a list of armed video tracks (cam a  b) Here you can enter the
 slate or sync mark by selecting it on the time line. Select sync for each
 camera.  Track(s) is automagicly pulled back or forth  with a 1 second
 preroll. On the Gen Lock widget is  a button marked Preview and a button
 marked Take for each armed video track. Clicking Preview sends that
 track to the  Viewer window, Clicking on Take sends that track to the
 timeline. Now you can add effects transitions on your cuts.  Select the
 master in and out points and Write to Clip or render . Widget would look
 like this:

 TRACKS -SYNC  IN   -SET SYNC-   PREVIEW- TAKE
 Video1-   XX:XX:123-  button1  -button2
 -   button3
 Video2-   XX:XX:254-  button4  -button5
 -   button6
 Video3-   XX:XX:420-  button7  -button8
 -   button9
 -button10 = Write to Clip ( or use Write to Clip on timeline or
 viewer)

 I'll throw a 100.00 (usd) bounty on it if someones interested. (What's the
 proper channel for bounties.)
 Kind Regards
 Daniel




 On 9/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Robert Persson wrote:
   In Media 100 and Avid this is very easy to do, and in some other
   editors you can work around it by splitting the main video track (i.e.
   the one that is in sync with the audio) and trimming it to make a gap,
   but I can't find a way to split the track. I have tried cutting a
   chunk out of the track, but when I do this, everything to the right of
   the cut moves left to fill the gap.
 
  I'd suggest using mute.  Turn on create keyframes while tweeking[sic],
  and display mute keyframes, and then you can switch the top track on and
  off with mute.  Where it's turned off, the next track down in the stack
  will show through.
 
  By the way, it should be tweaking.  I've only ever seen the word
  tweeking used in Cinelerra, and to refer to methamphetamine abuse.
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Re: [CinCVS] switching between video tracks while keeping audio in sync

2007-09-06 Thread mskala
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Robert Persson wrote:
 In Media 100 and Avid this is very easy to do, and in some other
 editors you can work around it by splitting the main video track (i.e.
 the one that is in sync with the audio) and trimming it to make a gap,
 but I can't find a way to split the track. I have tried cutting a
 chunk out of the track, but when I do this, everything to the right of
 the cut moves left to fill the gap.

I'd suggest using mute.  Turn on create keyframes while tweeking[sic],
and display mute keyframes, and then you can switch the top track on and
off with mute.  Where it's turned off, the next track down in the stack
will show through.

By the way, it should be tweaking.  I've only ever seen the word
tweeking used in Cinelerra, and to refer to methamphetamine abuse.
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]Embrace and defend.
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