[CinCVS] huffYUV in cinlerra?

2007-09-10 Thread B. Bogart
Hey all,

I have sequence of 1280x960 resolution jpegs I made into a huffYUV video
using ffmpeg.

I now need to edit the sequence, but it seems cinelerra does not load
the huffYUV codec. (It shows up in the media pane, but does not actually
get decoded. The only error shows up in the console about HFVU not being
a recognized codec.

Can anyone suggest a suitable ffmpeg compatible lossless codec that can
do 1280x960 that cinelerra can load?

Thanks,
B. Bogart


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[CinCVS] fPIC

2007-09-10 Thread Edouard Chalaron
Well I have done the test : 
It compiles perfectly without the  -fPIC option.
So as Kevin suggested, dont use it if you have the same problem as I.
Cheers
E


Re: [CinCVS] video quality loss measurements?

2007-09-10 Thread rafael2k
eventually you can compare de gradient of the images.

bye,
rafael diniz

Em Ter 11 Set 2007, David McNab escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know of any nix-compatible tools which can objectively
> measure the quality loss of video caused by various types of
> compression/manipulation?
>
> One way I can think of is sum of squares of pixel YUV or RGB
> differences. How effective would this really be? Are there better ways?
> For example, to limit the sum of squares calculation to i*j-sized pixel
> groups?
>
> Is there any free/opensource software available for *nix systems, to
> measure quality degradations?
>
> Cheers
> David



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[CinCVS] video quality loss measurements?

2007-09-10 Thread David McNab
Hi,

Does anyone know of any nix-compatible tools which can objectively
measure the quality loss of video caused by various types of
compression/manipulation?

One way I can think of is sum of squares of pixel YUV or RGB
differences. How effective would this really be? Are there better ways?
For example, to limit the sum of squares calculation to i*j-sized pixel
groups?

Is there any free/opensource software available for *nix systems, to
measure quality degradations?

Cheers
David




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[CinCVS] Results HD on telecine

2007-09-10 Thread Edouard Chalaron
Ok for those who are still in super 8mm :
http://calenduro.free.fr/HDsuper8

There is a 18 seconds (70 MB) of a Macro shoot of a bug relatively
common in the South West of France. Done in July 2007
It is about 6 or 7 cm for the scale.

Done on reversal Ektachrome.
Cheers
Edouard


Re: [CinCVS] TEARS OF JOY

2007-09-10 Thread Edouard Chalaron

Well, now (might be tomorrow though) is THE test... will try without
fpic
Cheers
E

On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 21:17 -0400, Kevin Brosius wrote:

> I'd suggest not doing this.  Passing -fPIC as a flag can lead to other
> problems.  (Just for the record.) 


Re: [CinCVS] TEARS OF JOY

2007-09-10 Thread Kevin Brosius
On 2007-09-10 23:46, Edouard Chalaron wrote:
> EVENTUALLY !!!
> The problem was definitely the external libx264.
> Most likely not properly compiled by I.
> 

Congratulations.  Glad to hear you worked it out.

> So ... for those who are in the same trouble, instead of resolving it I
> went another way :
> 
> - Went to the configure file of hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg
> - modify the default options in the configure file (one being x264)
> - dont forget to enable gl
> - back to the main directory, ran ./configure without options (though I
> did export CFLAGS="-fPIC")

I'd suggest not doing this.  Passing -fPIC as a flag can lead to other
problems.  (Just for the record.)

> - all config Ok
> - make
> - couple of libs such libtiff and a couple of devel packages (used
> synaptic)
> - make install
> - ldconfig to make sure
> 
> Et Voila . Champagne this evening !! Thanks all for your help and
> time.
> Cheers
> Edouard
> 

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Re: [CinCVS] huffYUV in cinlerra?

2007-09-10 Thread IL'dar AKHmetgaleev
На Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:51:24 -0700
"B. Bogart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> записано:

> I have sequence of 1280x960 resolution jpegs I made into a huffYUV
> video using ffmpeg. 
===8<---
> Can anyone suggest a suitable ffmpeg compatible lossless codec that
> can do 1280x960 that cinelerra can load?

You can use original jpegs as sequence without converting. I think in
this case it will be more lossless.

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[CinCVS] huffYUV in cinlerra?

2007-09-10 Thread B. Bogart
Hey all,

I have sequence of 1280x960 resolution jpegs I made into a huffYUV video
using ffmpeg.

I now need to edit the sequence, but it seems cinelerra does not load
the huffYUV codec. (It shows up in the media pane, but does not actually
get decoded. The only error shows up in the console about HFVU not being
a recognized codec.

Can anyone suggest a suitable ffmpeg compatible lossless codec that can
do 1280x960 that cinelerra can load?

Thanks,
B. Bogart

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[CinCVS] TEARS OF JOY

2007-09-10 Thread Edouard Chalaron
EVENTUALLY !!!
The problem was definitely the external libx264.
Most likely not properly compiled by I.

So ... for those who are in the same trouble, instead of resolving it I
went another way :

- Went to the configure file of hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg
- modify the default options in the configure file (one being x264)
- dont forget to enable gl
- back to the main directory, ran ./configure without options (though I
did export CFLAGS="-fPIC")
- all config Ok
- make
- couple of libs such libtiff and a couple of devel packages (used
synaptic)
- make install
- ldconfig to make sure

Et Voila . Champagne this evening !! Thanks all for your help and
time.
Cheers
Edouard


Re: [CinCVS] Raw images import

2007-09-10 Thread Jan Luo
hi,

this leads me to the question if one could also import dpx files (
that's what you get
out of most pro hd cameras ) into cinelerra?

thanks!

jan luo

Daniel Jircik wrote:
> I don't think this is exactly what you were looking for but might be useful:
> http://argoslabs.com/~malefico/tutor/img2list-en.html
> 
> On 9/10/07, Johannes Sixt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Monday 10 September 2007 00:04, Edouard Chalaron wrote:
>>> Hi there
>>>
>>> I have several (2 or so) frames to import into Cinelerra.
>>> They are provided by Coriander in a raw format, 8 or 10 bits 422 or 444.
>>> Is there any chance I can import them into Cinelerra ? I mean so far I
>>> failed to ...
>>> Each frame is about 3 to 4 MB for the smallest ones.
>>> I can't attach one on this list but if someone is interested I can post
>>> somewhere.
>>> I understand there is no headers and I can provide a piece of code to
>>> convert them into quicktime (y4mtoqt from the mjpegtools).
>>> Ideally I'd like to work directly on the frames rather than to have to
>>> convert them (time spent on it and more than anything is makes
>>> compulsory to have the same amount of storage)
>> Currently, there can nothing be done about that. The best thing you could
>> do
>> is to mass-convert them to jpegs and construct a jpeg list: This is a file
>> that has these contents:
>>
>> JPEGLIST
>> # First line is always JPEGLIST
>> # Frame rate:
>> 25.00
>> # Width:
>> 512
>> # Height:
>> 384
>> # List of image files follows
>> render000639.jpg
>> render000640.jpg
>> render000641.jpg
>> etc...
>>
>> You get the idea. Your images must be of equal size. Then you import
>> *this*
>> *file* in Cinelerra.
>>
>> -- Hannes
>>
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Re: [CinCVS] Re: Progress on install AMD64

2007-09-10 Thread Edouard Chalaron
Hello Valentina and others


> sorry i was out yesterdaygreat you could compile on suse.

So was I and it actually cleared my brains... :-)



> I really can't understand your problems with x264...


Well I think I am getting closer to it.
Would you mind telling me how I can enable the x264 from the ffmpeg
embeded into the svn version ? I tried to pass --enable-x264 -fPIC in
the configure script found under hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg, but without
any success and the problem seems to be coming from here.

Thanks a lot
Edouard


Re: [CinCVS] Raw images import

2007-09-10 Thread Edouard Chalaron
Hi all
Thanks for the reply. But that won't do for me.
I want to stay in the YCbCr color space and avoid any RGB <-> YUV
moreover with compressed data.
Thanks again for your time
Cheers
E


[CinCVS] ffmpeg error: incomplete headers

2007-09-10 Thread Randolph
I did not get this error before in ffmpeg when converting file types, so 
I assume that I recently adjusted the settings out of kilter in 
cinelerra or, perhaps, did an incomplete job of my settings.  I would 
appreciate some ideas on how to address this "incomplete headers" 
error.  Please let me know which data to examine.  Thanks in advance.


Randolph

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Re: [CinCVS] Raw images import

2007-09-10 Thread Daniel Jircik
I don't think this is exactly what you were looking for but might be useful:
http://argoslabs.com/~malefico/tutor/img2list-en.html

On 9/10/07, Johannes Sixt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Monday 10 September 2007 00:04, Edouard Chalaron wrote:
> > Hi there
> >
> > I have several (2 or so) frames to import into Cinelerra.
> > They are provided by Coriander in a raw format, 8 or 10 bits 422 or 444.
> > Is there any chance I can import them into Cinelerra ? I mean so far I
> > failed to ...
> > Each frame is about 3 to 4 MB for the smallest ones.
> > I can't attach one on this list but if someone is interested I can post
> > somewhere.
> > I understand there is no headers and I can provide a piece of code to
> > convert them into quicktime (y4mtoqt from the mjpegtools).
> > Ideally I'd like to work directly on the frames rather than to have to
> > convert them (time spent on it and more than anything is makes
> > compulsory to have the same amount of storage)
>
> Currently, there can nothing be done about that. The best thing you could
> do
> is to mass-convert them to jpegs and construct a jpeg list: This is a file
> that has these contents:
>
> JPEGLIST
> # First line is always JPEGLIST
> # Frame rate:
> 25.00
> # Width:
> 512
> # Height:
> 384
> # List of image files follows
> render000639.jpg
> render000640.jpg
> render000641.jpg
> etc...
>
> You get the idea. Your images must be of equal size. Then you import
> *this*
> *file* in Cinelerra.
>
> -- Hannes
>
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Re: [CinCVS] Raw images import

2007-09-10 Thread Johannes Sixt
On Monday 10 September 2007 00:04, Edouard Chalaron wrote:
> Hi there
>
> I have several (2 or so) frames to import into Cinelerra.
> They are provided by Coriander in a raw format, 8 or 10 bits 422 or 444.
> Is there any chance I can import them into Cinelerra ? I mean so far I
> failed to ...
> Each frame is about 3 to 4 MB for the smallest ones.
> I can't attach one on this list but if someone is interested I can post
> somewhere.
> I understand there is no headers and I can provide a piece of code to
> convert them into quicktime (y4mtoqt from the mjpegtools).
> Ideally I'd like to work directly on the frames rather than to have to
> convert them (time spent on it and more than anything is makes
> compulsory to have the same amount of storage)

Currently, there can nothing be done about that. The best thing you could do 
is to mass-convert them to jpegs and construct a jpeg list: This is a file 
that has these contents:

JPEGLIST
# First line is always JPEGLIST
# Frame rate:
25.00
# Width:
512
# Height:
384
# List of image files follows
render000639.jpg
render000640.jpg
render000641.jpg
etc...

You get the idea. Your images must be of equal size. Then you import *this* 
*file* in Cinelerra.

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Re: [CinCVS] About cinelerra problem on slackware12

2007-09-10 Thread rafael2k
hi,

> > could you try it?
>
> Not easily in the next few weeks - I don't have time to collect and install
> the libraries used only by cinelerra which are not "built in" to the CV
> version.  Maybe later - I'll let you know.

ok. if you need some slackbuilds, you can fetch than here:
http://slack.sarava.org/slackbuilds

> > cinelerra-hv works out of box.
>
> Ah, I must have missed this - I wasn't aware that you'd tested hv.  When
> you tested hv did you need to fiddle the Makefiles?

just like you did, i think ;)


bye,
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[CinCVS] Re: Progress on install AMD64

2007-09-10 Thread Valentina Messeri

Hi!,

sorry i was out yesterdaygreat you could compile on suse.

I really can't understand your problems with x264...now problems is  
nasm(hehehhe) anyway.i upgrade packaging but machine i use is  
not fresh updated (i mean i dist-upgrade like one month  
ago).sorry, right now have no time to do more.neither have a  
look at libs in ubuntu machinei'm owrking on a wonderfull coreduo,  
right now...Let me know


:D

Vale


Hi all,

I have made some significant progress with compiling under AMD64

Suse10.0 box :
- used export CFLAGS="-03 -fPIC"
- svn x264 + compile /install
- passed --external ffmpeg to ./configure for Cinelerra
- BINGO, compiled, worked etc...  RHHHa at last...

That one was a major issue for me

Ubuntu box :
- gcc see  the export for CFLAGS
- svn x264 and ffmpeg
- X264 compiled and installed
- I can't compile ffmpeg with X264 option enabled... bizarre, odd

Anyway, I removed this option since I already have x264 from SVN

Went back to hvirtual directory :
./configure --external-ffmpeg

checking for x264_encoder_open in -lx264... yes
checking x264.h usability... yes
checking x264.h presence... yes
checking for x264.h... yes

No package 'libpostproc' found

Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

So  I tried
./configure

Allowed me to go for make
and got :
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libx264.a(common.o): relocation R_X86_64_32
against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object;
recompile with -fPIC
/usr/lib/libx264.a: could not read symbols: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [libquicktimehv.la] Error 1
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2

Back to original problem.
Meaning that I need to pass some options to the hvirtual/ffmpeg
configure

So can I do : -with-external-libx264 or pass it to the ffmpeg CFLAG at
compile time?
if I can grab some info about ffmpeg CFLAGS I can pass to the hvirtual
configure that would be great.
Strangely the -fpic passed on gcc CFLAGS does not seem to be taken into
account

Thanks a lot  already for your time and support
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