[CinCVS] GVFX... new blendfile release
hi people, I´ve uploaded a new version of the blendfile with transitions. the script will be rewritten. And I added 2 videos explaining the projects with examples. Cheers. Marquitux. _ Consigue aquí las mejores y mas recientes ofertas de trabajo en América Latina y USA: http://latam.msn.com/empleos/ ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra on Fedora 8 locks up
Settings - Preferences - Playback if audio driver is set to alsa then mark the stop playback locks up box. also, if you don't have a *very* strong machine then don't select play every frame. have fun, georg Am Wednesday, 19. December 2007 07:19:54 schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan: I now have Cinelerra built on Fedora 8. It starts OK, and shows a video. But if I press the stop button (white square) the display can never be started again. Cinelerra continues to use up lots of CPU time, and sometimes the cursor continues to move along the tracks in the Program Window -- sometimes it doesn't and I still don't know why sometimes it moves and sometimes it doesn't. If I click on the track in the Program Window when the display is in this state, Cinelerra locks up pretty nearly completely. The pull-down menus no longer pull down, and clicking on the close button (The X) on the window decorations of the Program window does not close Cinelerra. Clicking the close button on other windows does close them. Right clicking in the Compositor window brings up a pop-up menu, which appears to function as it should. Has anyone seen anything like this? Ideas for further investigation? Thanks - jon ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra -- dr. kurt georg hooss schoepfung wandel wissenschaftliche medienberatung breite strasse 6-8, d-23617 luebeck www.schoepfung-und-wandel.de ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Rendering to path containing spaces
Hi, Kerneels Gouws schrieb: Hi all, if I try to render video to a path that contains spaces like /home/me/disk/new DVD/video.m2v it fails. This does not seem to happen for sound. Is this just something I am doing or is it a bug? Probably a bug. My guess is, that MPEG rendering is done by piping to mpeg2enc, and the filename isn't enclosed in when creating the commandline. Burkhard ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Rendering to path containing spaces
Hi all, if I try to render video to a path that contains spaces like /home/me/disk/new DVD/video.m2v it fails. This does not seem to happen for sound. Is this just something I am doing or is it a bug? Regards, Kerneels. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Rendering to path containing spaces
Hi, Herman Robak schrieb: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:15:02 +0100, Kerneels Gouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) It is something you are doing. If you're on Linux or some other UNIX, you DON'T want to have spaces in directory or file names. It breaks things! Disagree. Spaces are perfeclty legal in UNIX filenames. UNIX Software, which doesn't support all legal UNIX filenames, is broken. Change new DVD to new_DVD, and be happy. If I did this for all files, I get from others, I would get mad :) 2) It is a bug, since modern software ought to deal with escaping of special characters, like whitespace. Or enclose filenames in or '' before passing them to a shell (like in popen()). Typical beginners mistake, if it isn't done Burkhard ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Rendering to path containing spaces
On mié, 2007-12-19 at 16:08 +0100, Herman Robak wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:40:05 +0100, Burkhard Plaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Herman Robak schrieb: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:15:02 +0100, Kerneels Gouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) It is something you are doing. If you're on Linux or some other UNIX, you DON'T want to have spaces in directory or file names. It breaks things! Disagree. Spaces are perfeclty legal in UNIX filenames. Yep. Some non-printable characters are legal, too, if I am not mistaken. Non-printable characters in file names can trick the user. White-spaces in file names can cause interesting things in shell scripts. I don't know what POSIX requires, but most modern file-systems that Linux supports allow any byte sequence as long as it doesn't contain the directory separator (i.e. the slash). Not all legal filenames are wise file names. That's no reason why a piece of software should place additional constrains. UNIX Software, which doesn't support all legal UNIX filenames, is broken. Most shells are broken in that sense. And that's quite annoying. Broken in what way? It would be nice to get them fixed where possible. I mostly use bash and save for my own mistakes, I've never had problem escaping file names. Besides, an application shouldn't rely in the shell parsing the command-line, it should pass each argument in a string, as someone else already pointed out in this thread. Greetings, -- Javier Kohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: blashyrkh #2361802 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente
Re: [CinCVS] Rendering to path containing spaces
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Burkhard Plaum wrote: Spaces are perfeclty legal in UNIX filenames. UNIX Software, which doesn't support all legal UNIX filenames, is broken. I agree. The whole thing of having a set of characters that must be avoided in filenames, especially if it's different per application, is very much not the Unix way of doing things. -- Matthew Skala [EMAIL PROTECTED]Embrace and defend. http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/ ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Rendering to path containing spaces
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:40:05 +0100, Burkhard Plaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Herman Robak schrieb: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:15:02 +0100, Kerneels Gouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) It is something you are doing. If you're on Linux or some other UNIX, you DON'T want to have spaces in directory or file names. It breaks things! Disagree. Spaces are perfeclty legal in UNIX filenames. Yep. Some non-printable characters are legal, too, if I am not mistaken. Non-printable characters in file names can trick the user. White-spaces in file names can cause interesting things in shell scripts. Not all legal filenames are wise file names. UNIX Software, which doesn't support all legal UNIX filenames, is broken. Most shells are broken in that sense. And that's quite annoying. -- Herman Robak ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] GVFX... new blendfile release
http://gvfx.blogspot.com/ 2007/12/19, Cillian de Roiste [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Marquitux, That sounds really interesting. I tried searching the mailing list and online but failed to find the project. Could you add some links please? Cheers, Cillian On Dec 19, 2007 12:14 PM, marquitux caballero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi people, I´ve uploaded a new version of the blendfile with transitions. the script will be rewritten. And I added 2 videos explaining the projects with examples. Cheers. Marquitux. _ Consigue aquí las mejores y mas recientes ofertas de trabajo en América Latina y USA: http://latam.msn.com/empleos/ ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra -- Are you teaching the What and the How but without the Why and the When? ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Rendering to path containing spaces
Hi,
Herman Robak schrieb:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:40:05 +0100, Burkhard Plaum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Herman Robak schrieb:
[...]
Disagree.
Spaces are perfeclty legal in UNIX filenames.
Yep. Some non-printable characters are legal, too, if I am not mistaken.
Non-printable characters in file names can trick the user. White-spaces
in file names can cause interesting things in shell scripts.
IIRC, the only really forbidden characters are '/' and '\0'.
Once I managed to create a file with a multiline name ('\n' is legal too),
and it was fun watching different programs freaking out on it. But thats long
ago and certainly a corner case :)
Not all legal filenames are wise file names.
That's right, but users of GUI apps (like cinelerra), don't want to learn which
filenames are wise. Also the definition of wise stronly depends on whether a
shell is involved or not. Many GUI users (even on Linux nowadays) never use a
shell
directly.
It's never a problem if the filename is passed from the GUI directly to
fopen(). For MPEG video encoding, it's only a broken because popen()
launches a subshell, which executes the mpeg2enc command. IMO if cinelerra is
smart
enough to launch a shell, it should also be able to correctly pass filenames to
it.
If filenames are quoted by or '' (which is sufficient for spaces at least),
it's a
one-line patch.
UNIX Software, which doesn't support all legal UNIX filenames, is broken.
Most shells are broken in that sense. And that's quite annoying.
Agree, that it's sometimes annoying, but they are not broken.
It's a fundamental property of a shell, that it has special characters like
all other programming/scripting languages (otherwise it would be impossible to
implement most of the functionality). The space is used to separate commandline
arguments.
Other characters like *$| are also special and must be escaped or quoted, if
they are meant literally.
These are basic usage rules for shells. If you follow them, everything is fine.
If not, you get what you deserve. If you don't like that, don't use a shell.
Plain simple :)
Burkhard
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[CinCVS] Re: Cinelerra on Fedora 8 locks up -- Solved?
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 22:19 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I now have Cinelerra built on Fedora 8. It starts OK, and shows a video. But if I press the stop button (white square) the display can never be started again. Cinelerra continues to use up lots of CPU time, and sometimes the cursor continues to move along the tracks in the Program Window -- sometimes it doesn't and I still don't know why sometimes it moves and sometimes it doesn't. If I click on the track in the Program Window when the display is in this state, Cinelerra locks up pretty nearly completely. The pull-down menus no longer pull down, and clicking on the close button (The X) on the window decorations of the Program window does not close Cinelerra. Clicking the close button on other windows does close them. Right clicking in the Compositor window brings up a pop-up menu, which appears to function as it should. Has anyone seen anything like this? Ideas for further investigation? Or maybe replaced by something even more perplexing. The lockup happens only when the audio driver is ALSA, and not when it is OSS. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra on Fedora 8 locks up
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 10:59 +0100, Kurt Georg Hooss wrote: Settings - Preferences - Playback if audio driver is set to alsa then mark the stop playback locks up box. also, if you don't have a *very* strong machine then don't select play every frame. have fun, georg Am Wednesday, 19. December 2007 07:19:54 schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan: I now have Cinelerra built on Fedora 8. It starts OK, and shows a video. But if I press the stop button (white square) the display can never be started again... Thanks. Both suggestions look very useful. Sorry for my last posting; I had missed this before I sent it. jon ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] GVFX... new blendfile release
This looks really exciting .. distributing blend files like this makes it really easy for those of us who have very little experience with Blender to be able to dive in and use it in very powerful ways for video editing. I came across another one yesterday which I expect to use instead of the titler effect or the image + image keyframe animation technique I've used before in cinelerra. http://indiworks.wordpress.com/2007/07/20/how-to-make-2d-titles-in-blender-2d-title-presest-v01/ Perhaps this would also be a suitable addition to GVFX? Thanks, Cillian On Dec 19, 2007 3:48 PM, Richard Spindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://gvfx.blogspot.com/ 2007/12/19, Cillian de Roiste [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Marquitux, That sounds really interesting. I tried searching the mailing list and online but failed to find the project. Could you add some links please? Cheers, Cillian On Dec 19, 2007 12:14 PM, marquitux caballero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi people, I´ve uploaded a new version of the blendfile with transitions. the script will be rewritten. And I added 2 videos explaining the projects with examples. Cheers. Marquitux. _ Consigue aquí las mejores y mas recientes ofertas de trabajo en América Latina y USA: http://latam.msn.com/empleos/ ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra -- Are you teaching the What and the How but without the Why and the When? ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
