Re: [CinCV] Lumiera logo try 3

2008-03-16 Thread Martin Ellison
interesting, has potential, but does look a bit like Mickey Mouse...

On 15/03/2008, Riviere Informatique SARL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> How about something like the attached?


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Re: [CinCV] Titler Effect Color Chooser

2008-03-16 Thread Axel Schwarz
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:55:14 +0100
Raffaella Traniello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> In the Color picker of the Titler the selected colour is identified by a
> triplet of values, either Hue, Saturation and Value or the Red, Green
> and Blue Levels.
> Those values are numbers, visible as tooltips.
> To reproduce a font colour you can set the sliders to reproduce the same
> triplet of values.

Yes, I know. If I only could remember the values of the six sliders ;))
Sliders are nice, but a numerical input as option would be nice, too.
(not only for titler effect) cut and paste is also much faster.


> When you open the Titler for a new title, the window reproduces the
> parameters set for the last title used. So, if you set the titles as
> succeeding operations, you can keep the same colour values
> automatically.
> If all your titles are edited with keyframes on the same effect bar, you
> can preserve the parameters even more easily.

This works ok, until the work is straight forward. But if you decide
to change the color at any time, its hard to change the values backwards.

> Axel, I agree: there is still plenty of room for improvement.

Yes, and because I can not believe, that cin3/lumiera will be as usable as cin2 
soon,
and, I think that cin2 is not that bad, I hoped that maybe some programmer
is able to improve cin2 a little bit. (i'm not a programmer, you know)

anyway, it would be nice to have such a feature, cin3 or cin2.
another great feature would be, if it is possible, to store custom effect 
settings
for any effect, and you can apply them as often as you like. 

So, imho, i can not understand such a thread because of an icon or logo.
sure, it is nice to have fancy icons, nice colors, aso,
but imho  USABILITY and STABILITY  are the basics for making great software.

(cin2 had some ugly pixmaps for years, so what?)

Don't misunderstand me, you all make/made great work, thanks a lot,
but customizing icons / themes is something which i think is not top prio.


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Re: [CinCV] Idea for logo try 2

2008-03-16 Thread Leandro Ribeiro
> A contest usually means that everyone feels the need to submit already
> refined work (because others do ...). But starting with sketches and
> going through several iterations with feedback is more efficient.

I've been thinking about this and I got myself agreeing with you before I read 
your email. I decided to abandon the contest idea and embrace the brainstorm 
one. That's why I decided to work on a set of logos I got in my mind, and 
send them so that others can see and send theirs or use mine to create new 
ones.

But I don't think that we should just try to work on the first "logo concept" 
that appears. A logo is something that either clicks or it doesn't, so we 
should have alot of people just submiting different shapes, typesets, etc, 
until one of those... clicks :)

> A contest often leads to a decision between different designs where more
> variation of one design might yield a better result.

I agree. When a friend of mine, who is a designer, is hired to work on a 
company logo he thinks of many shapes and works on many variations of the 
same shape: a dot here instead of there, many colors, etc. He isn't the one 
who picks the final product: he presents everything to the client and then 
the client chooses.

Here, the client and the designer are the community.

> How about anyone who likes submits proposals and we discuss them. Once
> something satisfies enough of the right people, it is adopted. It still
> can be replaced if something better comes up, especially as the project
> will not need or have broad public exposure for quite a while.

Agree.

> I wonder if you have any idea of what you are asking for here. One step
> at a time, you just can't jump to the top of a mountain. A good logo
> will be a nice starting point for the rest, but there's no need to
> define all that in advance. "Submit several months worth of work or
> don't bother at all" is nothing you should ask from volunteers in
> open-source projects.

I didn't explained myself here. My fault :)

I don't want people submiting websites, of course. My idea was: please think 
of the usability of your proposals before you submit them. For example: you 
can have a great image, with a lot of detail, but will that work as an icon? 
The idea is not to have a compatible website ready, but to ask yourself: will 
this work in a given website?

Sorry for the mess in going into this subject :)



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[CinCV] Bug 371542 - Cinelerra frozen on openSUSE 10.3

2008-03-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen
To let you know, I have reported a bug (Bug 371542 - Cinelerra frozen on 
openSUSE 10.3) on the Novell/openSUSE Bugzilla list:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=371542

It's too long for me to wait on that Cinelerra possibly will run ok on 
the next openSUSE 11 release, and it is high time to solve this blocker 
on openSUSE 10.3 the sooner the better. (I've previous also been in 
touch with Packman's packager, without solving this problem so far).


Therefore by joining forces, I hope other on this list may contribute by 
adding experience and comments on this bug, and with more knowledge than 
I have about the Cinelerra program itself.


To add comments, one has to register a login account (up to the right) 
on the lin above.



Cheers,
Terje J. Hanssen





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Re: [CinCV] Bug 371542 - Cinelerra frozen on openSUSE 10.3

2008-03-16 Thread Rafael Diniz
did you tried upgrading your x.org?

bye,
rafael diniz

> To let you know, I have reported a bug (Bug 371542 - Cinelerra frozen on
> openSUSE 10.3) on the Novell/openSUSE Bugzilla list:
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=371542
>
> It's too long for me to wait on that Cinelerra possibly will run ok on
> the next openSUSE 11 release, and it is high time to solve this blocker
> on openSUSE 10.3 the sooner the better. (I've previous also been in
> touch with Packman's packager, without solving this problem so far).
>
> Therefore by joining forces, I hope other on this list may contribute by
> adding experience and comments on this bug, and with more knowledge than
> I have about the Cinelerra program itself.
>
> To add comments, one has to register a login account (up to the right)
> on the lin above.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Terje J. Hanssen
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[CinCV] Re: Bug 371542 - Cinelerra frozen on openSUSE 10.3

2008-03-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen

Rafael Diniz wrote on Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:09:47 -0700


did you tried upgrading your x.org?


I tried once, and I won't try again. There isn't any official upgrade to 
xorg-x11-7.3 on openSUSE 10.3. I discussed the risk with Packman first 
and yes, my attempt did crash, and I had to reinstall my whole system 
again. In any case, Cinelerra is packaged for the official 10.3 release 
and should of course run on it also.


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Terje J. Hanssen





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Re: [CinCV] More logos for Lumiera

2008-03-16 Thread Ichthyostega
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Leandro Ribeiro schrieb:

> 1) The small "L" in the font type used motivated this logo, because it looks 
> so much like a piece of film. I've tried with different colors, but I only 
> liked it with the red one. The idea is to create a classic (both in font type 
> and logo) feel, using a more old fashioned, yet elegant, approach.

Wow! especially liked this one
Has a touch of old cinema projector, or like a moviola.
It also reminds me of a musical score...

really inspiring!

cheers
Hermann V.

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Re: [CinCV] More logos for Lumiera

2008-03-16 Thread Christian Thaeter
Ichthyostega wrote:
> Leandro Ribeiro schrieb:
> 
>> 1) The small "L" in the font type used motivated this logo, because it looks
>> so much like a piece of film. I've tried with different colors, but I only
>> liked it with the red one. The idea is to create a classic (both in font type
>> and logo) feel, using a more old fashioned, yet elegant, approach.
> 
> Wow! especially liked this one
> Has a touch of old cinema projector, or like a moviola.
> It also reminds me of a musical score...
> 
> really inspiring!

yes, I like that too, the best one so far, great work.

Some suggestions (dunno how it looks, just ideas):
 * make the 'l' in the logo little bit smaller (or the box biggier) so
   that the red color flows around it.
 * experiment with different sizes of the dot in the logo (biggier)
 * correct the kerning between the m and the i, move them little closer
   together.
 * is the font designed by you? make it little less strong, the holes in
   the 'a' are quite small and it looks blurred together, also the
   serifs on the l,m,r,a. the rolling dot might be more distinct like in
   the logo. (well this are already suggestions about fine tuning if we
   decide on this logo, we are not that far yet, aren't we?)
 * in a huge (poster version) the logo 'l' might contain transport/
   perforation marks, like a film. maybe not just interested how that
   would look like.
 * generally tryout diffrent sizes, screenful, splashscreen size, a size
   2-4 times biggier than the screen font (logo on help screens etc),
   screenfont size (10 point), just the 'l' logo from poster to 16x16
   favicon sizes.


Christian


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