Re: [CinCV] Modeline for PAL etc

2008-10-09 Thread Christian Thaeter
Hannu Vuolasaho wrote:
> 
> 
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [CinCV] Modeline for PAL etc
>> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:42:29 +0200
>>
>> I'm searching for a modeline/xrandr spell to turn my laptop video (intel
>> GM965/GL960) out to native PAL (interlaced). 
> 
> First of all, I don't believe you want to run your laptop LCD with 720x576i 
> mode. The LCD 
> is always progressive and it would look terrible even you didn't scale it to 
> full screen.  And LCD
> refresh rate is something else than 50Hz. And LCD displays look good only 
> when running in native resolution.

this laptop has no TV out, but VGA out, and I want native PAL signal to
drive CRT or beamers (well Beamers are LCD's or DLP's but i think they
handle interlacing better than normal LCD monitors). The idea is to use
the external output to present/monitor PAL with most native signal.


> 
> Second thing is that TV-out usually generates itself right timings and 
> interlaced image.
> How it is enabled depends your HW, setup and what you want. With nvidia we 
> have twinview and 
> X comes with xinerama and then we have xrandr.
> 
> So to get real PAL, NTSC or whatever video format is wanted is done with HW. 
> I believe you 
> have to just use Option lines enable the TV-out. And xorg.conf  can also tell 
> the display be
>  720x576 as eextended or scale the desktop or just take part of the screen. I 
> used to have
>  rectangle in background image which was sent to TV-out :)
> 
> But really good X configuration help site would be great. Now that you are 
> really going to 
> learn the configuration of X, you should make it thoroughly :)
> 
>  If you are good with html, you could create xorg.conf generator which asks 
> resolutions 
> and order of monitors and which driver to use and then create simple 
> xorg.conf with 
> different server layouts. Like xinerama, mirror, TV-out as extended desktop 
> and 
> TV-out as part of desktop, TV-out as mirror of desktop.
> 
> Just my two (Euro) cents
> 
> Hannu Vuolasaho
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RE: [CinCV] Modeline for PAL etc

2008-10-09 Thread Hannu Vuolasaho



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [CinCV] Modeline for PAL etc
> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:42:29 +0200
> 
> I'm searching for a modeline/xrandr spell to turn my laptop video (intel
> GM965/GL960) out to native PAL (interlaced). 

First of all, I don't believe you want to run your laptop LCD with 720x576i 
mode. The LCD 
is always progressive and it would look terrible even you didn't scale it to 
full screen.  And LCD
refresh rate is something else than 50Hz. And LCD displays look good only when 
running in native resolution.

Second thing is that TV-out usually generates itself right timings and 
interlaced image.
How it is enabled depends your HW, setup and what you want. With nvidia we have 
twinview and 
X comes with xinerama and then we have xrandr.

So to get real PAL, NTSC or whatever video format is wanted is done with HW. I 
believe you 
have to just use Option lines enable the TV-out. And xorg.conf  can also tell 
the display be
 720x576 as eextended or scale the desktop or just take part of the screen. I 
used to have
 rectangle in background image which was sent to TV-out :)

But really good X configuration help site would be great. Now that you are 
really going to 
learn the configuration of X, you should make it thoroughly :)

 If you are good with html, you could create xorg.conf generator which asks 
resolutions 
and order of monitors and which driver to use and then create simple xorg.conf 
with 
different server layouts. Like xinerama, mirror, TV-out as extended desktop and 
TV-out as part of desktop, TV-out as mirror of desktop.

Just my two (Euro) cents

Hannu Vuolasaho
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[CinCV] Modeline for PAL etc

2008-10-09 Thread Christian Thaeter
I'm searching for a modeline/xrandr spell to turn my laptop video (intel
GM965/GL960) out to native PAL (interlaced). Anyone knows such one off
hand? (would be nice to make some webpage for different kinds of SD and
HD formats and graphic cards available, I can set such a page up when we
get a collection here)

Christian

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