Re: [CinCV] Compile error

2010-10-07 Thread Asmo Koskinen

07.10.2010 04:14, E Chalaron kirjoitti:


I don't think it is up to Cinelerra to keep track of the various
libx264-nnn versions that do exist.
Believe me, if I can compile it everybody can !


I agree. My distro of choice is Ubuntu AMD64 10.10. Compile Cinelerra 
first with default x264 library and then upgrade x264 library, maybe 
that helps? My Cinlerra is about few weeks old.


as...@ubuntu:~$ x264 --version
x264 0.105.1724 b02df7b
built on Sep 26 2010, gcc: 4.4.5

as...@ubuntu:~$ ffmpeg --version
FFmpeg version SVN-r25211, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers
built on Sep 26 2010 20:14:38 with gcc 4.4.5

as...@ubuntu:~$ cinelerra --version
Cinelerra 2.1CV (C) 2006 Heroine Virtual Ltd.
Compiled on su 26.9.2010 21.21.28 +0300

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Re: [CinCV] Compile error

2010-10-07 Thread Roland

On 2010-10-06 22:37, Frans de Boer wrote:


 Same result with various options.

 As I asked before: advancements in ffmpeg and x264 are not incorporated
 in the SVN repository? If so, it makes cinelerra only usable on old
 systems without any recent update. I use x264 version form git.
 Maybe I am missing something?

 Frans.


Maybe silly answer but... make sure you have libx264 and libx264-devel 
installed.
Why don't you use the packages provided by your distro instead of 
building the x264 git version?


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[CinCV] Re: Viewer does not play any files

2010-10-07 Thread Roland

On 2010-10-07 03:24, David Koski wrote:


 I also have the same problem but with Cinelerra CV 4.1. More information:

 Version: 4.1-0.1
 Debian Squeeze
 kernel: 2.6.32-5-amd64

 This Cinelerra was installed from a debian package, not compiled from 
source.


 Regards,
 David Koski
 da...@???




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Re: [CinCV] need clarification of user-manual comment

2010-10-07 Thread Burkhard Plaum

Hi,

Am 07.10.2010 00:22, schrieb anyeos:


It applies not only for OpenGL instead in video in general. There are
some encoders that can only work in some width or height multiples, like
4.


The usual 4:2:0 sampling requires that dimensions are multiples of 2. It's
theoretically possible to support odd dimensions, but they many programs fail 
here.

Usual compression methods work on 16x16 blocks internally, but all these
codecs allow arbitrary *even* dimensions. They just pad the images internally.
I'm not aware of any mainstream codec, which requires multiples of 4.


So you can have: 320x240, 420x480, 640x480, and so, all divisible by
4. Take care too about the aspect ratio what it is width/height in the
example of 420/480 it is 0,875 not an standard one (640/480 get 1,33
or 4:3, 320x480 the same, 720/480 is 16:9 or 1,777 standard NTSC and
so).


You also have nonsquare pixels. All modern codecs store the pixel aspect
ratio instead of the display aspect ratio.

Burkhard

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Re: [CinCV] need clarification of user-manual comment

2010-10-07 Thread Rob


--- On Thu, 10/7/10, Burkhard Plaum pl...@ipf.uni-stuttgart.de wrote:

 From: Burkhard Plaum pl...@ipf.uni-stuttgart.de
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] need clarification of user-manual comment
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 5:23 AM
 Hi,
 
 Am 07.10.2010 00:22, schrieb anyeos:
 
  It applies not only for OpenGL instead in video in
 general. There are
  some encoders that can only work in some width or
 height multiples, like
  4.
 
 The usual 4:2:0 sampling requires that dimensions are
 multiples of 2. It's
 theoretically possible to support odd dimensions, but they
 many programs fail here.
 
 Usual compression methods work on 16x16 blocks internally,
 but all these
 codecs allow arbitrary *even* dimensions. They just pad the
 images internally.
 I'm not aware of any mainstream codec, which requires
 multiples of 4.
 
  So you can have: 320x240, 420x480, 640x480, and so,
 all divisible by
  4. Take care too about the aspect ratio what it is
 width/height in the
  example of 420/480 it is 0,875 not an standard one
 (640/480 get 1,33
  or 4:3, 320x480 the same, 720/480 is 16:9 or 1,777
 standard NTSC and
  so).
 
 You also have nonsquare pixels. All modern codecs store the
 pixel aspect
 ratio instead of the display aspect ratio.
 
 Burkhard


I read in mencoder documentation years ago that the codecs required the 16x16 
blocks.  that is partly why I was confused about what the cinelerra document 
said regarding the (size) of the project tracks...That really should be updated 
in the user-guide to be more explicit...and based on the discussion it has 
sparked, perhaps the developers need to reexamine the requirement and publish 
the real (current) requirement. :^)

I'm working with 720p and 480p vertical but want to maintain close to a 16:9 
aspect.  720p works ok at 1280x720 but 480 need 854 horizontal to achieve the 
correct aspect...I end up scaling to 848x480 to maintain the divisible by 16 
constraint...that is acceptable...




  

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Re: [CinCV] Compile error

2010-10-07 Thread sfrase6
Maybe silly answer but... make sure you have libx264 and libx264-devel
 
 installed.
 Why don't you use the packages provided by your distro instead of 
 building the x264 git version?
 
Frans,
In my experience on both Ubuntu and Fedora (32 and 64bit versions), compiling 
X264 is a nightmare.  Do yourself a favor and, as Roland suggests, use 
your distros' pre-compiled packages.

scott

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RE: [CinCV] need clarification of user-manual comment

2010-10-07 Thread Hannu Vuolasaho



 From: tempest...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] need clarification of user-manual comment
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 06:31:39 -0700

 
 I'm working with 720p and 480p vertical but want to maintain close to a 16:9 
 aspect.  720p works ok at 1280x720 but 480 need 854 horizontal to achieve the 
 correct aspect...I end up scaling to 848x480 to maintain the divisible by 16 
 constraint...that is acceptable...

Also. I found that exporting to ogg from 1440x1080 m2t file from HDV dvgrab 
source doesn't work like you expect. On the bottom there was green stripe. I 
fixed this setting resolution to 1072. Ogg requires resolution of multitude of 
16. and aspect was off by less than 1 %. 

Not very good solution but first that came in to my mind.

Hannu Vuolasaho
  

Re: [CinCV] Compile error

2010-10-07 Thread Frans de Boer
On 10/07/2010 03:36 PM, sfrase6 wrote:
 Maybe silly answer but... make sure you have libx264 and libx264-devel
   
 installed.
 Why don't you use the packages provided by your distro instead of 
 building the x264 git version?

 
 Frans,
 In my experience on both Ubuntu and Fedora (32 and 64bit versions), compiling 
 X264 is a nightmare.  Do yourself a favor and, as Roland suggests, use 
 your distros' pre-compiled packages.

 scott

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Sorry, but OpenSuse 11.3 does not have these libraries nor a compiled
versions of Cinelerra, at least not that I can see.

What else can I do, I will look into the code and if it gets to
difficult, I just switch to another tool.

Thanks for the remarks, I leave at that.

Frans.

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Re: [CinCV] Compile error

2010-10-07 Thread Edouard Chalaron
Frans, dont give up on that...

You probably need to add some packman repository to your Yast software 
management. I actually tried a precompiled version but gave up on it because of 
the histogram not working properly.

What I suggest :
- activate some packman repo
- get a precompiled version of Cinelerra
- it will (should) drag the appropriate libs to your sytem
- try cinelerra
- does not work to your liking ? then compile it

As Scott suggested dont bother compiling every single lib, as far as I am 
concerned it does not make any difference.

Another idea would be to compile with external ffmpeg but I have never done 
that.

And yes I agree it is frustrating, but it eventually works
Cheers
E

Sorry, but OpenSuse 11.3 does not have these libraries nor a compiled
versions of Cinelerra, at least not that I can see.

What else can I do, I will look into the code and if it gets to
difficult, I just switch to another tool.

Thanks for the remarks, I leave at that.

Frans.

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Re: [CinCV] Compile error

2010-10-07 Thread Asmo Koskinen

07.10.2010 21:42, Frans de Boer kirjoitti:


Sorry, but OpenSuse 11.3 does not have these libraries nor a compiled
versions of Cinelerra, at least not that I can see.


How about packman's repos?

http://packman.links2linux.org/package/cinelerra

openSUSE 11.3 i586
cinelerra-2.1.cv20100802-2.pm.9.6.i586.rpm
5 days ago

openSUSE 11.3 x86_64
cinelerra-2.1.cv20100802-2.pm.9.5.x86_64.rpm
6 days ago

http://packman.links2linux.org/search?scope=nameq=x264
http://packman.links2linux.org/search?scope=nameq=ffmpeg

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Re: [CinCV] Re: Viewer does not play any files

2010-10-07 Thread David Koski
Thanks.  Everywhere I look it says 4.1 HV does not support the viewer.  I am 
using CV, not HV.  But it does not work.

Regards,
David Koski
da...@kosmosisland.com

 On 2010-10-07 03:24, David Koski wrote:
   I also have the same problem but with Cinelerra CV 4.1. More
   information:
   
   Version: 4.1-0.1
   Debian Squeeze
   kernel: 2.6.32-5-amd64
   
   This Cinelerra was installed from a debian package, not compiled from
 
 source.
 
   Regards,
   David Koski
   da...@???
 
 http://e.kevb.net/lurker/search/20090926.140634.0...@ml:cinelerra,viewe
 r,4.1.en.html
 
 
 
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