Re: [CinCV] render with mjpega - monthy's patches

2012-03-13 Thread Haldun ALTAN
Bonjour Edouard et merci beaucoup :))

je vais essayer (I'll try)

I say try because i didn't compile cinelerra yet ni added patches or any
plugins but thanks to grandma Rafaella but also to Crazedmule, I will
begin.

Lately I bought a canon 5D mII and would like to have a good workflow
with it. For now Rafaella's way is working well. Only problem is the
dimension after rendering with mjpeg-a is 1920x540 instead of 1080.

Crazedmule says (in July 2010) that Monthy's patches are specially good
for Canon 5D/7D That's why I wonder if any of your patches are already
within cinelerra cv 2,5 or i have to compile and add them as described
on crazedmule blog.

Thanks


Le 12/03/2012 21:29, E Chalaron a écrit :
 Bonjour Haldun

 Regarding exporting  why not using x264 directly through a
 yuv4mpegpipe ? then rendering AC3 separatley and eventually muxing 
 them together with Gpac ?
 Careful about the rec 709 gamut, not sure how cinelerra handles it though

 I think there is a need for a modified REC601 plugin here
 (mais là c'est juste moi hein ... je dis ça, je dis rien)


 #/bin/bash
 fichier=$1.264
 mkfifo $1.y4m
 x264 --tune film --preset fast --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --slices 4
 --b-pyramid strict --aud --bframes 3 --keyint 24\
  --bitrate 25000 --vbv-maxrate 4 --vbv-bufsize 3 --aq-mode 2
 --threads 2 --colorprim bt709\
  --transfer bt709 --colormatrix bt709 -o  $fichier $1.y4m 
 sleep 0.5
 cat /dev/stdin  $1.y4m
 rm $1.y4m

 Then export AC3

 and use Gpac ...

 #!/bin/bash
 IFS=$(echo -e \n\r\t)
 for nom in $(ls *.264) ; do
 echo Traitement de ${nom}
 MP4Box -add ${nom} -add $(basename ${nom} .264).ac3
 $(basename ${nom} .264).mp4
 done

 Et voilà ...
 Edouard



 On 03/13/2012 05:46 AM, Haldun ALTAN wrote:
 Hello,

 Does anybody knows why cinelerra renders container quicktime for linux /
 MJPEG A in 1920x540 instead off 1920x1080, the original setting format ?

 It's the same thing with rushes en mjpeg or DNXHD (originals are in
 h264/AVC)

 Is there any way to fix it ? (1920x1080)

 What is the best render option for HD vidéo 1920x1080 before compressing
 them into mp4 ?

 I'm on ubuntu studio 10,04x64

 Thanks in adavance

 Haldun.

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Re: [CinCV] render with mjpega

2012-03-13 Thread Haldun ALTAN
Hello Stefan,

I didn't used yet two pass rendering. I checked it's only possible with
h.264 which doesn't work I think and mpeg4 i didn't try yet.

For the moment yuv4mpegpipe doesn't work either. Well working on it slowly.

Le 13/03/2012 00:54, Stefan de Konink a écrit :
 On 12-03-12 21:29, E Chalaron wrote:
 Regarding exporting why not using x264 directly through a yuv4mpegpipe ?

 Maybe because you want a two pass rendering?


 Stefan

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Re: [CinCV] render with mjpega

2012-03-13 Thread Edouard Chalaron
Haldun


X264 has a 2 passes option. I'll send a better version tomorrow
as for the scripts I sent, put each of them in separate scripts in 
/usr/local/bin with a 755 mode (let's call it avchd_script)
Then call the script from the yuv4mpegpipe as avchd_script % for rendering.

That should work
A bientot
E


--- On Tue, 13/3/12, Haldun ALTAN al...@wanadoo.fr wrote:

 From: Haldun ALTAN al...@wanadoo.fr
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] render with mjpega
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Tuesday, 13, March, 2012, 9:29 PM
 Hello Stefan,
 
 I didn't used yet two pass rendering. I checked it's only
 possible with
 h.264 which doesn't work I think and mpeg4 i didn't try
 yet.
 
 For the moment yuv4mpegpipe doesn't work either. Well
 working on it slowly.
 
 Le 13/03/2012 00:54, Stefan de Konink a écrit :
  On 12-03-12 21:29, E Chalaron wrote:
  Regarding exporting why not using x264 directly
 through a yuv4mpegpipe ?
 
  Maybe because you want a two pass rendering?
 
 
  Stefan
 
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Re: [CinCV] render with mjpega

2012-03-13 Thread Haldun ALTAN
Thanks in advance Edouard.
The part how to was missing now I'll know how to use your scripts :))
755 mode is chmod 755 to render your scripts executable I think.
I know how to do that.
Well another Merci Beaucoup.

Le 13/03/2012 09:53, Edouard Chalaron a écrit :
 Haldun


 X264 has a 2 passes option. I'll send a better version tomorrow
 as for the scripts I sent, put each of them in separate scripts in 
 /usr/local/bin with a 755 mode (let's call it avchd_script)
 Then call the script from the yuv4mpegpipe as avchd_script % for rendering.

 That should work
 A bientot
 E


 --- On Tue, 13/3/12, Haldun ALTAN al...@wanadoo.fr wrote:

 From: Haldun ALTAN al...@wanadoo.fr
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] render with mjpega
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Tuesday, 13, March, 2012, 9:29 PM
 Hello Stefan,

 I didn't used yet two pass rendering. I checked it's only
 possible with
 h.264 which doesn't work I think and mpeg4 i didn't try
 yet.

 For the moment yuv4mpegpipe doesn't work either. Well
 working on it slowly.

 Le 13/03/2012 00:54, Stefan de Konink a écrit :
 On 12-03-12 21:29, E Chalaron wrote:
 Regarding exporting why not using x264 directly
 through a yuv4mpegpipe ?
 Maybe because you want a two pass rendering?


 Stefan

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Re: [CinCV] render with mjpega - monthy's patches

2012-03-13 Thread Haldun ALTAN

Ciao! Raffaella

I dont know exactly. In properties it's indicated as 1920x540 motion
jpeg Is that means cropped ?
when I open with handbrake or avidemux it shows 1080 and renders 1080.
totem don't recognize 19:6 automatically (there it's squezed if i don't
put the size to 19:6) but vlc does.

I don't know what else to say.

Ciao
Haldun

Le 13/03/2012 16:13, Raffaella Traniello a écrit :
 Ciao!

 On 03/13/2012 09:24 AM, Haldun ALTAN wrote:
 Only problem is the dimension after rendering with mjpeg-a is
 1920x540 instead of 1080.

 Is it cropped or squeezed?

 Ciao
 Raffaella


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Re: [CinCV] render with mjpega - monthy's patches

2012-03-13 Thread Raffaella Traniello

Salut Haldun!

 In properties it's indicated as 1920x540 motion

jpeg Is that means cropped ?


By cropped I mean that some pieces of the frames are missing. I sense 
this is not your case and you get a squeezed image (aspect ratio is 
wrong but the image is complete).



when I open with handbrake or avidemux it shows 1080 and renders 1080.
totem don't recognize 19:6 automatically (there it's squezed if i don't
put the size to 19:6) but vlc does.


I have a similar effect. The file is OK but it is not always recognized 
as such. Like if Cinelerra rendered some aspect ratio or resolution 
flags wrong. She does that also with anamorphic DV.
Nautilus gets it wrong. The thumbnail is shown squeezed and the 
resolution is reported wrongly (for my current 720x576 PAL project is 
said to be 720x288).

In fact the file is OK, with the resolution you expect it to have.

MJPEG A is only an intermediate format in my workflow so it is not a big 
problem: in VLC I can adjust the aspect ratio manually, in Cinelerra is 
read correctly.


If this is a Cinelerra bug maybe we can help fixing that!

Ciao!
Raffaella


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Re: [CinCV] Celluloid and bits - a love story

2012-03-13 Thread Bhikkhu Mettavihari
Hello from Sri Lanka

Well just to add a bit to your joy.

We have been using

   1. Kino for capturing
   2. Cinelerra for editing
   3. ffmpeg for compressing
   4. qt-faststart for optimizing
   for the past more than 5 years.
   5. I presently run 2  television channels 24/7 and I am looking forward
   to expand with another 2 more.
   6. We have about 10 editing tables, some for editing and others for
   Multimedia Blender work.
   7. Much of our work is on tape-less production but we also do use tapes.

We started work using Slackware
Later on turned over to Debian.
Presently we run many of our workstations on Ubuntu 8.10 (if it ain't
broke, don't fix it)
We still have one of our servers running Slackware I think it is version
10.0
We are likely to upgrade / downgrade our editing desktops to Ubuntu 12.04
when it come outsmile...
If someone says it does not work, then please come for a holiday to Sri
Lanka... smile...

To the great *Community:*
Thank you so much for being around.
It is *YOUR *work that makes it possible.
We are just following you,
with gratitude.

Mettavihari

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:12 AM, leandro ribeiro
leandroribe...@gmail.comwrote:

 It's perfect for me, and only as far as the actual editing is concerned. I
 struggle with proper import formats as much as the next fellow man (my
 current project uses videos from at least 5 different sources, and yes,
 it's a pain), but once the track opens, I feel at ease with it, with the
 keyframes, with the curves, with pushing and pulling each reel in different
 ways with different mouse buttons, etc.


 2012/3/12 Murray Strome wmstr...@yahoo.com

 i wonder if you could share your perfect workflow. I have been trying
 for quite some time to figure out how to use Cinelarra, but have not found
 a workflow that I could use effectively.

 --- On *Sat, 3/10/12, leandro ribeiro leandroribe...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: leandro ribeiro leandroribe...@gmail.com
 Subject: [CinCV] Celluloid and bits - a love story
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Received: Saturday, March 10, 2012, 9:06 AM

 .When I'm with Cinelerra, everything just flows. I never find it odd,
 hard or unintuitive. I do what I want, when I want, with the results I
 want. It's like writing with a fountain pen!


 And then, yesterday, it hit me: the very first time I installed Linux on
 my computer (it was 2006 or something), I did it because of Cinelerra.
 Everything on my PC (except for Windows) already was opensource, I just
 needed a good video editor to replace Adobe Premiere. I read about
 Cinelerra and that made me try Linux - and I never went back to Windows
 since.

 Cinelerra's workflow is perfect for the way I think the editing
 process, and it's responsible for me being a full time Linuxian.





-- 
Streaming video from http://dharmavahini.tv


Re: [CinCV] render with mjpega - monthy's patches

2012-03-13 Thread Haldun ALTAN


Le 13/03/2012 17:13, Raffaella Traniello a écrit :
 Salut Haldun!
Oui Salut Raffaella

  In properties it's indicated as 1920x540 motion
 jpeg Is that means cropped ?

 By cropped I mean that some pieces of the frames are missing. I sense
 this is not your case and you get a squeezed image (aspect ratio is
 wrong but the image is complete).
Best way to know that would me to have the same file recognized as 1080
by nautilus and see how much that weights.


 when I open with handbrake or avidemux it shows 1080 and renders 1080.
 totem don't recognize 19:6 automatically (there it's squezed if i don't
 put the size to 19:6) but vlc does.

 I have a similar effect. The file is OK but it is not always
 recognized as such. Like if Cinelerra rendered some aspect ratio or
 resolution flags wrong. She does that also with anamorphic DV.
 Nautilus gets it wrong. The thumbnail is shown squeezed and the
 resolution is reported wrongly (for my current 720x576 PAL project is
 said to be 720x288).
 In fact the file is OK, with the resolution you expect it to have.
It's the same thing with my thumbnail, it's squeezed. If you're sure
that the real resolution is there it's ok.

 MJPEG A is only an intermediate format in my workflow so it is not a
 big problem: in VLC I can adjust the aspect ratio manually, in
 Cinelerra is read correctly.
Same thing for me. I'm just looking to have the best rendering
resolution for a 1080p.

 If this is a Cinelerra bug maybe we can help fixing that!
Makes it better :)) Thanks.

 Ciao!
 Raffaella

A+

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Re: [CinCV] render with mjpega

2012-03-13 Thread Valentina Messeri

Haldun ALTAN al...@wanadoo.fr escribió:


Hello,

Does anybody knows why cinelerra renders container quicktime for linux /
MJPEG A in 1920x540 instead off 1920x1080, the original setting format ?


Unfortunatly i dunno, but cinelerra has this annoyng problem



It's the same thing with rushes en mjpeg or DNXHD (originals are in
h264/AVC)

Is there any way to fix it ? (1920x1080)


sure (but i'm a dreamer not a developer)



What is the best render option for HD vidéo 1920x1080 before compressing
them into mp4 ?


i use yuv4mpegpipe with different pipes...since cinelerra is a bit  
nasty, you know, i recomend to find the best to fit you, according  
with your footage and purposes.


cacasodo writes great stuff about it, look:

http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com

I use both mpeg2enc or ffmpeg pipes, rendering audio and video  
separated then multiplexing with mplex or fmpeg.

running cinelerra compiled from sources (always works better).

and about export mjpeg in any container...drop it, at least for now.

:D

Vale



I'm on ubuntu studio 10,04x64

Thanks in adavance

Haldun.

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