Re: [CinCV] Cannot solve this problem

2012-11-21 Thread Haldun ALTAN
Did you tried to fix the window to the picture with the right clic on 
the time line ?

Sometimes window is not calibrated to the image ..
haldun
Le 21/11/2012 13:12, Basil Chupin a écrit :
I am unable to solve this problem I am having in converting an mpg 
file to avi as input into Cinelerra for editing. Can anyone, please, 
give me a clue on how to solve it?


The .mpg file, which is 10.4GB big and is a program recorded off the 
TV (digital, terrestial)


 has these details:

Input #0, mpeg, from 'Flying_Machines.mpg':
  Duration: 02:45:23.62, start: 13078.001922, bitrate: 9217 kb/s
Stream #0:0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p, 1440x1080 
[SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 15500 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc

Stream #0:1[0x80]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 448 kb/s

I have been using this CLI 'script' to convert my mpg files to avi 
(and I can work on them successfully in Cinelerra):


mencoder -vf harddup -demuxer lavf -oac pcm -ovc lavc -lavcopts 
vcodec=mjpeg:vhq:vbitrate=6000:autoaspect=1 -noskip -mc 0 -ofps 25 -o 
output.avi input.mpg


However, when I put the ABOVE file, after it has been converted to avi 
by mencoder, into Cinelerra, the resulting edited file which appears 
in the COMPOSITOR window is a zoomed version of the original- ie, I 
lose part of the picture on all 4 sides. BUT, the TIMELINE shows each 
frame as it should look - ie, there is no loss of picture and all the 
details is therefore there as in the original recording.


I then used WINff which I found here:

http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html

and applied the 'Grandma's Fix', Using the Graphical User Interface - 
WinFF, and then followed the instructions given there to convert the 
mpg file - ie, used Cinelerra intermediate formats  and Select 
DNxHD as Preset. When I do that I get the following error message:






I tried a number of combinations of bitrates etc for both video and 
audio but get the same error message.


Can anyone help please re this problem? I may not have provided 
sufficient info as I don't know what is most relevant.


BC




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Re: [CinCV] Cannot solve this problem

2012-11-21 Thread Basil Chupin

On 21/11/12 23:12, Basil Chupin wrote:

[

and applied the 'Grandma's Fix', Using the Graphical User Interface - 
WinFF, and then followed the instructions given there to convert the 
mpg file - ie, used Cinelerra intermediate formats  and Select 
DNxHD as Preset. When I do that I get the following error message:


Sorry about that. I didn't realise that the graphic would not be 
accepted here.


However, the error message can be seen here:

http://susepaste.org/25335932

BC

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Re: [CinCV] Cannot solve this problem

2012-11-21 Thread Basil Chupin

On 21/11/12 23:39, Haldun ALTAN wrote:
Did you tried to fix the window to the picture with the right clic on 
the time line ?

Sometimes window is not calibrated to the image ..
haldun


Thanks, Haldun, but, yes, I did try both options there about resizing. 
None helped.


Just to give you, et al, an idea of what I talking about here is what 
the original film looks like:


http://susepaste.org/38587013


Here is what it shows in the Viewer and the Compositor windows in Cinelerra:

http://susepaste.org/82285960


and here is what the frames on the Timeline look:

http://susepaste.org/18058509

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Re: [CinCV] Cannot solve this problem

2012-11-21 Thread Basil Chupin

On 22/11/12 00:18, Herman Robak wrote:
På Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:12:25 +0100, skrev Basil Chupin 
blchu...@iinet.net.au:


However, when I put the ABOVE file, after it has been converted to 
avi by mencoder, into Cinelerra, the resulting edited file which 
appears in the COMPOSITOR window is a zoomed version of the original- 
ie, I lose part of the picture on all 4 sides. BUT, the TIMELINE 
shows each frame as it should look - ie, there is no loss of picture 
and all the details is therefore there as in the original recording.


I'm pretty sure it's because the track canvas size is smaller than the
video's and the project's resolution.  Old annoyance, that has bitten me
time and again.

Do as Haldun suggested, right-click on the video track, and pick the
to project size item.  That should do the trick.


Aside: Sometimes, smaller sized tracks ARE useful.  But Cinelerra's
behaviour does not quite fit the user model, obviously.


Thanks for the response, Herman.

I tried what Haldun suggested - without success.

What has me a puzzled is the 4:3 format followed by the 16:9 format in 
the mpg file details (shown in the first post of mine). The original 
film has a sort of 4:3 formaty look when it starts which then changes 
into something like 2.20:1 format after a few minutes and then the 
format changes to 16:9. So there appears to be 3 formats within several 
minutes of the film (at the beginning).


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Re: [CinCV] Cannot solve this problem

2012-11-21 Thread Herman Robak
På Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:41:20 +0100, skrev Basil Chupin  
blchu...@iinet.net.au:



On 21/11/12 23:12, Basil Chupin wrote:

[

and applied the 'Grandma's Fix', Using the Graphical User Interface -  
WinFF, and then followed the instructions given there to convert the  
mpg file - ie, used Cinelerra intermediate formats  and Select DNxHD  
as Preset. When I do that I get the following error message:


Sorry about that. I didn't realise that the graphic would not be  
accepted here.


However, the error message can be seen here:

http://susepaste.org/25335932


720x576 DNxHD won't work, that's right.  DNxHD is a very constrained codec.
It only accepts two resolutions: 1280x720 and 1920x1080, and only combined
with a fixed set of framerates and bitrates.

Beware!  I think there is a typo error or two in this table:
http://www.itbroadcastanddigitalcinema.com/ffmpeg_howto.html#Encoding_VC-3

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