Re: [CinCV] Supporting Cinelerra
I'm also willing to support Cinelerra with $25 since I have used the software in the past and appreciate volunteer work of software experts. I also believe in the concept of free software and Linux in general as opposed to closed systems like Vindooz. I also have a suggestion or question. Are you guys aware of FSF (Free Software Foundation - http://www.fsf.org/ )? You may be able to register with them and obtain the required support (server space for version storage, mailing list, etc.). I have been supporting them with a yearly donation as my primary commitment to open source, free, community developed and constantly improved software. I believe this would be the primary means of supporting cash expenditures of open source software volunteers, rather than sending contributions to individuals, separate organizations. Finally, I copy FSF with this message so that they may respond directly to Cinelerra about the merits of my idea. Janos North Andover, MA USA On 01/15/2014 06:00 AM, cinelerra-requ...@skolelinux.no wrote: Send Cinelerra mailing list submissions to cinelerra@skolelinux.no To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cinelerra-requ...@skolelinux.no You can reach the person managing the list at cinelerra-ow...@skolelinux.no When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Cinelerra digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: server payment (Christian Thaeter) 2. Server Payment - received (Christian Thaeter) 3. Re: Server Payment (E Chalaron) 4. Re: Server Payment (Christian Thaeter) 5. Re: Server Payment -- received (Christian Thaeter) 6. Re: Server Payment (g...@karricountry.com.au) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 19:04:58 +0100 From: Christian Thaeter c...@pipapo.org To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Cc: al...@wanadoo.fr Subject: Re: [CinCV] server payment Message-ID: 20140114190458.362ed...@jupiter.pipapo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Am Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:23:46 +0100 schrieb Frans de Boer fr...@fransdb.nl: On 01/14/2014 08:01 AM, Haldun ALTAN wrote: Hello Christian I can also send 50 ?. Just need information. And thanks a lot for doing this. Hope the project will live. Haldun :)) Hi Haldun, I'll thankfully accept your pledge too. Please contact me about what Payment methods you prefer, I'll then send you details about the payment. Thanks Christian You have to send your replies to the list, not just use reply-to I forwarded this to the list. Thanks to Frans too :) Frans. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 20:07:47 +0100 From: Christian Thaeter c...@pipapo.org To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Subject: [CinCV] Server Payment - received Message-ID: 20140114200747.54763...@jupiter.pipapo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Rolf Steinort send me ?43,37 EUR w/o pledging this first ... Thanks -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:20:52 +1300 From: E Chalaron e.chala...@xtra.co.nz To: Mailinglist for Cinelerra,the community version cinelerra@skolelinux.no Subject: Re: [CinCV] Server Payment Message-ID: 52d5aa34.7070...@xtra.co.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Christian Make it another 50 ! Hope this will encourage people, every $, E etc .. counts. cheers E On 14/01/14 10:33, Christian Thaeter wrote: While talking about it: someone pledged to send me 50Eur anonymously, which I would gratefully accept, I gave him/her advice how to transfer money and as soon I receive it i'll notice this here. Christian Th?ter ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 00:45:20 +0100 From: Christian Thaeter c...@pipapo.org To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Cc: e.chala...@xtra.co.nz Subject: Re: [CinCV] Server Payment Message-ID: 20140115004520.5d6f8...@jupiter.pipapo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Am Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:20:52 +1300 schrieb E Chalaron e.chala...@xtra.co.nz: Christian Make it another 50 ! Hope this will encourage people, every $, E etc .. counts. cheers E Thanks, accepted, I'll send you payment details On 14/01/14 10:33, Christian Thaeter wrote: While talking about it: someone pledged to send me 50Eur anonymously, which I would gratefully accept, I gave him/her advice how to transfer money and as soon I receive it i'll notice this here. Christian Th?ter
Re: [CinCV] Transferring cinelerra.org
Adding others who have discovered it is no longer registered. Someone else needs to register it. On Oct 17, 2013 12:35 PM, Richard Baverstock richard.baverst...@gmail.com wrote: Just domain registration. I don't know who is operating the servers. On Oct 17, 2013 12:15 PM, Juha-Matti Tapio jmta...@verkkotelakka.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 07:35:52PM -0400, Adam williams wrote: Can't afford it. Looks like the .com .net .org names are going to be all squatted or taken, but it was just 1 project in a lifetime of others. Are we talking about just the domain registration or server resources too? - Original Message - From: Richard Baverstock Sent: 10/15/13 12:36 PM To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no, broadc...@earthling.net, cinelerra-ow...@skolelinux.no Subject: Re: Transferring cinelerra.org The http://cinelerra.org domain is about to expire, so I need to know who to transfer it to. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Richard Baverstock richard.baverst...@gmail.com wrote: Since I'm no longer really involved in the project, and haven't been for years, I'd like to transfer the domain to either Adam or the current leads in the unofficial version. If Adam is not on this list, does anyone know his current email address? Who is currently leading the unofficial version (or who is maintaining the web presence)? ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Server Payment -- received
Am Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:33:08 +0100 schrieb Christian Thaeter c...@pipapo.org: While talking about it: someone pledged to send me 50Eur anonymously, which I would gratefully accept, I gave him/her advice how to transfer money and as soon I receive it i'll notice this here. Got it. Thank You Christian Thäter ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Supporting Cinelerra
Am Thu, 16 Jan 2014 05:24:43 -0500 schrieb jankomEarthlink jan...@earthlink.net: I'm also willing to support Cinelerra with $25 since I have used the software in the past and appreciate volunteer work of software experts. I also believe in the concept of free software and Linux in general as opposed to closed systems like Vindooz. Thanks I'll accept the pledge and send you payment details in a private mail. I also have a suggestion or question. Are you guys aware of FSF (Free Software Foundation - http://www.fsf.org/ )? You may be able to register with them and obtain the required support (server space for version storage, mailing list, etc.). I have been supporting them with a yearly donation as my primary commitment to open source, free, community developed and constantly improved software. I believe this would be the primary means of supporting cash expenditures of open source software volunteers, rather than sending contributions to individuals, separate organizations. We once decided to run our own server to have more flexible hosting solutions (own Mailinglist, git hosting (wasn't common that time), ..) Meanwhile we need responsible people/admins who care for the project and this stuff. Raffa suggested to move to some free bugtracker/project hoster (launchpad/sourceforge/github ...whatever). I do not see how such a move will benefit the project. Its true that little less administrative tasks need to be done then, but still the project needs people who care. Plenty of such free software project hosts have massive spam problems, sourceforge turned into an advertisement trove etc. Hosting it at the FSF would be more politically correct, but only solve a few adminstrative problems while not the problem that people need to be devoted to the project and care for it. Moreover I've always payed for the server and would not take it down because its not payed, i just asked for money because i feel it would be ok if this (little) burden is shared and people can help there and i am surprised about the massive positive responses last days. The Server itself hosts some other projects and has to be payed anyways. When cinelerra would move away (yet alone I don't see anyone who will reliably organize this move till the end). I still have to pay for the server and maybe search for some other project/person wo wants to take over this hosting-slot (IP address etc) and pay his share. Conclusion for me is that it would be more trouble for cinelerra and for me when it moves away. Christian ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Supporting Cinelerra
Hi Janos, wtf earthlink .. dosnt accept my private mail, gives me a javascript/captcha laden antispam registration form .. i do not approve, pls send me a working email Christian Am Thu, 16 Jan 2014 05:24:43 -0500 schrieb jankomEarthlink jan...@earthlink.net: I'm also willing to support Cinelerra with $25 since I have used the software in the past and appreciate volunteer work of software experts. I also believe in the concept of free software and Linux in general as opposed to closed systems like Vindooz. I also have a suggestion or question. Are you guys aware of FSF (Free Software Foundation - http://www.fsf.org/ )? You may be able to register with them and obtain the required support (server space for version storage, mailing list, etc.). I have been supporting them with a yearly donation as my primary commitment to open source, free, community developed and constantly improved software. I believe this would be the primary means of supporting cash expenditures of open source software volunteers, rather than sending contributions to individuals, separate organizations. Finally, I copy FSF with this message so that they may respond directly to Cinelerra about the merits of my idea. Janos North Andover, MA USA On 01/15/2014 06:00 AM, cinelerra-requ...@skolelinux.no wrote: Send Cinelerra mailing list submissions to cinelerra@skolelinux.no To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cinelerra-requ...@skolelinux.no You can reach the person managing the list at cinelerra-ow...@skolelinux.no When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Cinelerra digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: server payment (Christian Thaeter) 2. Server Payment - received (Christian Thaeter) 3. Re: Server Payment (E Chalaron) 4. Re: Server Payment (Christian Thaeter) 5. Re: Server Payment -- received (Christian Thaeter) 6. Re: Server Payment (g...@karricountry.com.au) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 19:04:58 +0100 From: Christian Thaeter c...@pipapo.org To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Cc: al...@wanadoo.fr Subject: Re: [CinCV] server payment Message-ID: 20140114190458.362ed...@jupiter.pipapo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Am Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:23:46 +0100 schrieb Frans de Boer fr...@fransdb.nl: On 01/14/2014 08:01 AM, Haldun ALTAN wrote: Hello Christian I can also send 50 ?. Just need information. And thanks a lot for doing this. Hope the project will live. Haldun :)) Hi Haldun, I'll thankfully accept your pledge too. Please contact me about what Payment methods you prefer, I'll then send you details about the payment. Thanks Christian You have to send your replies to the list, not just use reply-to I forwarded this to the list. Thanks to Frans too :) Frans. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 20:07:47 +0100 From: Christian Thaeter c...@pipapo.org To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Subject: [CinCV] Server Payment - received Message-ID: 20140114200747.54763...@jupiter.pipapo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Rolf Steinort send me ?43,37 EUR w/o pledging this first ... Thanks -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:20:52 +1300 From: E Chalaron e.chala...@xtra.co.nz To: Mailinglist for Cinelerra, the community version cinelerra@skolelinux.no Subject: Re: [CinCV] Server Payment Message-ID: 52d5aa34.7070...@xtra.co.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Christian Make it another 50 ! Hope this will encourage people, every $, E etc .. counts. cheers E On 14/01/14 10:33, Christian Thaeter wrote: While talking about it: someone pledged to send me 50Eur anonymously, which I would gratefully accept, I gave him/her advice how to transfer money and as soon I receive it i'll notice this here. Christian Th?ter ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 00:45:20 +0100 From: Christian Thaeter c...@pipapo.org To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Cc: e.chala...@xtra.co.nz Subject: Re: [CinCV] Server Payment Message-ID: 20140115004520.5d6f8...@jupiter.pipapo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Am Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:20:52 +1300 schrieb E Chalaron e.chala...@xtra.co.nz:
[CinCV] New domain: cinelerra-cv.org
Hi! Since it was difficult to restore the cinelerra.org domain (now in a limbo: expired but not yet available), I followed Richard's suggestion and registered a new domain: cinelerra-cv.org. I think this domain is more representative of the community version and it mimes exactly the package name. Some consequences are: - We have a lot of links to fix - cinelerra.org will become available in a month or two and could be used for the original project at HV, in case Adam is interested. I'd be happy to pay and maintain this domain too. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] New domain: cinelerra-cv.org
(The list server keeps bouncing e-mails from Raffaella, so I'm resending this, hoping it won't bounce my e-mail...) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 23:01:18 +0100 From: Raffaella Traniello raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu To: Mailinglist for Cinelerra, the community version cinelerra@skolelinux.no Copy (Cc): broadc...@earthling.net Subject: New domain: cinelerra-cv.org Hi! Since it was difficult to restore the cinelerra.org domain (now in a limbo: expired but not yet available), I followed Richard's suggestion and registered a new domain: cinelerra-cv.org. I think this domain is more representative of the community version and it mimes exactly the package name. Some consequences are: - We have a lot of links to fix - cinelerra.org will become available in a month or two and could be used for the original project at HV, in case Adam is interested. I'd be happy to pay and maintain this domain too. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] New domain: cinelerra-cv.org
Am Wed, 15 Jan 2014 23:29:42 +0100 schrieb Herman Robak herman.ro...@gmail.com: (The list server keeps bouncing e-mails from Raffaella, so I'm resending this, hoping it won't bounce my e-mail...) I've got a lot reports from people who where unable to send mail to the list. We should really move the ML over to our own server, everything is prepared there since *YEARS*, we have some Mailinglists running there reliably since the beginning. There where Plans to move the ML over when we started the server (back in 2007?) which got never accomplished. Such move would be reasonable simple, setting up a new ML is only a few clicks away. The only roadblocks are that someone (hermanr?) has to ask the skolelinux.no admins for a tarball of the Mailinglist archive if we want to retain that and a list of all subscribers so that we can migrate them to the new list. Further on a few hands might be needed as Mailinglist moderators, this should be a really easy task, there is not that much traffic and most things can be set up that they work reasonable well automatically. We don't moderate/nanny users, only spam needs to be kept out. Christian Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 23:01:18 +0100 From: Raffaella Traniello raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu To: Mailinglist for Cinelerra, the community version cinelerra@skolelinux.no Copy (Cc): broadc...@earthling.net Subject: New domain: cinelerra-cv.org Hi! Since it was difficult to restore the cinelerra.org domain (now in a limbo: expired but not yet available), I followed Richard's suggestion and registered a new domain: cinelerra-cv.org. I think this domain is more representative of the community version and it mimes exactly the package name. Some consequences are: - We have a lot of links to fix - cinelerra.org will become available in a month or two and could be used for the original project at HV, in case Adam is interested. I'd be happy to pay and maintain this domain too. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
