Re: [CinCV] Modeline for PAL etc

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try this:

http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/vga2tv/vga2palntsc.html

by

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Re: [CinCV] Ubuntu Hardy install

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Antonio Salgado ha scritto:
Is there a way I can get Cinelerra for ubuntu Hardy? I've tried almost 
all the ways I've found on the Internet and it doesn't seems to work. 
Sometimes repositories are not found and stuff. I want a 386 version 
of it, any ideas...please?

Thank everyone for your time to read and help.

Cheers

have you try with...

http://www.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#hardy

or

http://akiradproject.net/repository

bye

Paolo Rampino aka akirad


Use addakirad.deb that solves most common problems

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Re: [CinCV] Intrepid users that want to tests akirad repository

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Raffaella Traniello ha scritto:

Ciao Paolo!

  

Available akirad repository for intrepid (only for test),



Please check http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu for
accuracy.

Grazie!
Raffaella


  

perfect, only put an "or" before

|echo deb http://akirad.cinelerra.org akirad-intrepid main | sudo tee 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list && wget -q 
http://akirad.cinelerra.org/dists/akirad.key -O- | sudo apt-key add - && 
sudo apt-get update |


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[CinCV] Intrepid users that want to tests akirad repository

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Available akirad repository for intrepid (only for test),

just double click on the link 
http://akirad.cinelerra.org/pool/addakirad.deb 
 and install it with 
GDebi Package Installer


or from commad line:
wget -q http://akirad.cinelerra.org/pool/addakirad.deb && sudo dpkg -i 
addakirad.deb && rm addakirad.deb && sudo apt-get update


or ever from command line with:
echo deb http://akirad.cinelerra.org akirad-intrepid main | sudo tee 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list && wget -q 
http://akirad.cinelerra.org/dists/akirad.key -O- | sudo apt-key add - && 
sudo apt-get update



please, test it and send me all bugs (software :) )
byez||
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Re: [CinCV] News from akirad project (typing error)

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Raffaella Traniello ha scritto:

On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 10:15 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I have changed the way to install my repository.
please update the dowload page



Done. 
Please, check it for accuracy.


cinelerra4-repack comes without non-English language support, right?

  

With non-English support

Grazie di cuore!  ;-)
Raffaella
  

Prego di cuore! ;-)
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Re: [CinCV] News from akirad project (typing error)

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On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 10:15 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I have changed the way to install my repository.
please update the dowload page



Done. 
Please, check it for accuracy.


cinelerra4-repack comes without non-English language support, right?

  

yes!

Grazie di cuore!  ;-)
Raffaella
  

Prego di cuore! ;-)
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[CinCV] News from akirad project

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I have changed the way to install my repository.

To use this repository download and 
install http://akirad.cinelerra.org/pool/addakirad.deb* *( if it not 
install itself with double click, open a terminal and paste this line: 
wget -c http://akirad.cinelerra.org/pool/addakirad.deb && sudo dpkg -i 
addakirad.deb ).*


This package detects your version of ubuntu, installs and keeps akirad 
repository updated. Do not forgot to press reload on synaptic ( you can 
find it on system>administration - on kubuntu the package-manager is 
adept) or open a terminal and paste: sudo apt-get update .


please update the dowload page ( one with big heart like raffaella )

byez

Paolo Rampino aka Akirad
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[CinCV] News from akirad project (typing error)

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I have changed the way to install my repository.

To use this repository download and
install http://akirad.cinelerra.org/pool/addakirad.deb( if it not
install itself with double click, open a terminal and paste this line:
wget -c http://akirad.cinelerra.org/pool/addakirad.deb && sudo dpkg -i
addakirad.deb ).

This package detects your version of ubuntu, installs and keeps akirad
repository updated. Do not forgot to press reload on synaptic ( you can
find it on system>administration - on kubuntu the package-manager is
adept) or open a terminal and paste: sudo apt-get update .

please update the dowload page ( one with big heart like raffaella )

byez

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Re: [CinCV] problem cinelerra-generic

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Y ha scritto:


*/
E: cinelerra-generic: le sous-processus post-removal script a retourné 
une erreur de sortie d'état 1/*


on terminal copy and paste this line

sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/cinelerra-generic.postrm

and re-install or remove package.

byez

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Re: [CinCV] Ubuntu Hardy upgrade - library problems

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Pat Dalzell ha scritto:
Thanks for the response, Paolo.  I removed everything I could think of 
including configs - faac, ffmpeg, cinelerra-generic, related 
libraries, etc.  The only local or obsolete packages I have are 
akiradnews, libdvdcss2, libdvdcss2-dev, libssl0.9.7, a 
linux-restricted-modules package, an nvidia-kernel package, and skype.



If akiradnews =  obsolete package?

can you send me on private email the output of

cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep akirad

and the output of

cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list

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Re: [CinCV] Ubuntu Hardy upgrade - library problems

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Pat Dalzell ha scritto:

cinelerra-generic: 1:2.1.0-1svn20080626akirad1
libquicktimehv-generic: 1:2.1.0-1svn20080626akirad1
faac: 1.26.1
faad: 2.6

I don't have the debian-multimedia repositories in my sources
I suspect that you use an incomplete upgraded version... first remove 
the link to libx264 and then try to check on 
synaptic>settings>repository>third-party software and disable all except 
my repository ( I suggest also to check others tab for errors ) , back 
to synaptic, relaod, check for local/obsolete package, press ctrl+e to 
all package listed and revert to ubuntu version.


I hope this help!

byez

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Re: [CinCV] ubuntu repository problem

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Fred Williams ha scritto:

On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 09:07 -0400, John Bintz wrote:
  

Damiano Pellicciotta wrote:


I'm trying to add the repository for Ubuntu but it doesn't work:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo wget http://repository.akirad.net/dists/hardy.list -O
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list
--11:49:39--  http://repository.akirad.net/dists/hardy.list
   => `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list'
Risoluzione di repository.akirad.net in corso... 66.7.206.3
Connessione a repository.akirad.net|66.7.206.3:80... connesso.
HTTP richiesta inviata, aspetto la risposta... 403 Forbidden
11:49:39 ERRORE 403: Forbidden.
  
I had the same problem.  When I visit the repository in the browser, it 
says the account's been temporarily suspended.



Is that why the Ubuntu updater keeps trying to uninstall Cinelerra?
I'm getting upset with it.  Almost ready to try a different distro, but
I'll give it another day.  I've switched from Gnome to KDE and haven't
deleted Gnome yet.  I don't want to be hasty, but Ubuntu is giving me
problems as of a couple of weeks ago.

  

thanks to christian is ready a mirror on cinelerra.org

do:

for hardy:

sudo wget http://akirad.cinelerra.org/dists/hardy.list -O 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list
|wget -q http://akirad.cinelerra.org/dists/akirad.key -O- | sudo apt-key 
add - && sudo apt-get update


for gutsy:

|sudo wget http://akirad.cinelerra.org/dists/gutsy.list -O 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list
|wget -q http://akirad.cinelerra.org/dists/akirad.key -O- | sudo apt-key 
add - && sudo apt-get update|


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Re: [CinCV] ubuntu repository problem

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John Bintz ha scritto:

Damiano Pellicciotta wrote:

I'm trying to add the repository for Ubuntu but it doesn't work:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo wget 
http://repository.akirad.net/dists/hardy.list -O

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list
--11:49:39--  http://repository.akirad.net/dists/hardy.list
   => `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list'
Risoluzione di repository.akirad.net in corso... 66.7.206.3
Connessione a repository.akirad.net|66.7.206.3:80... connesso.
HTTP richiesta inviata, aspetto la risposta... 403 Forbidden
11:49:39 ERRORE 403: Forbidden.
I had the same problem.  When I visit the repository in the browser, 
it says the account's been temporarily suspended.


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Re: [CinCV] automatic scaling of pictures

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Hi,
I would like to make a slideshow, and insert pictures into the movie. My
pictures are larger than the 720x576 PAL resolution, so when I insert them
  


try my first 3 tutorials:
http://www.akiradproject.net/tutorial


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Re: [CinCV] hi guys

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Evandro de Oliveira ha scritto:
I would like to know .. if you .. have the original cinelerra.postrm 
OR help me to remove the cinelerra installed on my hardy heron



I'm sending my file for you take a look ... thanks.

I'm Paolo Rampino the mantainer of akirad repository

postrm and postinst both exist only on akirad rebuild for hardy, those 
scripts provides to make ( and remove ) a /usr/bin/Cinelerra, 
/usr/bin/Cinelerra-admin and /etc/init.d/cinestart.


the script Cinelerra, Cinelerra-admin cinestart are workaround that 
makes iso-8859-15 charcode that translate cinelerra in your language. 
You can start a "vanilla cinelerra" by typing on terminal cinelerra ( 
with "c" lo-case )


and as you can read on package description:
An audio/video authoring tool
Cinelerra is a complete audio and video authoring
tool. It understands a lot of multimedia formats
(quicktime, avi, ogg) and audio/video compression
codecs (divx, xvid, mpeg1/2, ...)

This is a special ubuntu rebuild from akirad.net that include some variants:

- cinelerra (all x86 and x86_64 without opengl 2.0 video card)
- cinelerra-generic (all x86 and x86_64 with opengl 2.0 video card)
- cinelerra-k7 (all amd32 without opengl 2.0 video card)
- cinelerra-k7gl (all amd32 with opengl 2.0 video card)
- cinelerra-k8 (all amd64 with opengl 2.0 video card)

add also:
- /usr/bin/Cinelerra scripts that fix traslation problem on ubuntu
- /etc/init.d/cinestart that set shmmax to 0x7fff ( you can edit 
this script to not do that )


you can also download orginal source with:

|svn checkout svn://svn.skolelinux.org/cinelerra/trunk/hvirtual

or akirad source with

apt-get source cinelerra| ( before you must enable repository source 
with synaptic )


I hope this help you.

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Re: trunk .deb for hardy? was: [CinCV] Fonts lost in Hardy

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ott Maaten writes:

Cinelerra packages now works fine, try to update!



Are there hardy .deb's made from cv-cin trunk?


Yes and no,
akirad packages are build from svn bundling /usr/bin/Cinelerra ( with 
hi-case "C" ), this script provides localization also on non ISO-8859-1 
system ( like ubuntu ) and in this way the final user can use vanilla 
cinelerra by start /usr/bin/cinelerra ( lo-case "c") from terminal or 
lauch icon.


But, at this time, I had try to add ( now removed ) fonts patch by 
Nicolas Chauvet,


sorry to all comunity.

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Re: [CinCV] Fonts lost in Hardy

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Ott Maaten writes:

Cinelerra packages now works fine, try to update!

byez

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Re: [CinCV] Fonts lost in Hardy

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Ott Maaten ha scritto:

Using Cinelerra for a while very successfully with Hardy
http://www.propeller.ee/v ideo/pihkva2.avi

One week ago suddenly fonts in Titler got lost and I have only some 
ugly fonts

Look at the screenshot:
http://www.propeller.ee/u us/pics/cine1.jpg
Previously all nice TTF fonts were in this list. Now all are gone and 
are not recognized in previous projects.


These fonts are still in the folder: /usr/lib/cinelerra/fonts
and are included in the file: "fonts.dir"
http://www.propeller.ee/u us/pics/cine2.jpg

I tried mkttfdir - no change
I made full uninstall and install after (from Akirad) - no change
Deleted ~/.bcast directory - no change

I suppose some path in some "conf"-file is wrong. Where are cinelerra 
conf files?

How can I get the necessary fonts back in the Titler
Any help???

thanks,
Ott Maaten


I know the problem, It will be solved soon.

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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra doesn't word under Ubuntu Hardy Heron

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bungasagadua ha scritto:

I installed Cinelera on Hardy without problems thanks to Akirad repository
(www.akiradproject.net).
But Cinelerra doesn't work. The normal version allows clicking menus but doesn't
exec actions neither load the project I made before.
The Hi-Pr version loads old projects but doesn't allow to do anything.
Does someone have any ideas on what doing?
At the moment the only option I see is cancelling Hardy and reinstalling Gutsy.

  

please, try to start cinelerra with:

env LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true Cinelerra

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Re: [CinCV] test, cinelerra on 64bit Hardy Heron

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Andreas Hermann Braml ha scritto:
I had similar problems (on x86). I had to do both of the 
following to get Cinelerra (akirad packages) to work here:


- get the latest kernel from -proposed (not 100% sure if this is 
really necessary)

- start cinelerra with
LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true Cinelerra
(I got the hint here: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synergy/+bug/182825)


This is not beautiful, but definitely better than sudo.


pseudoruprechtl
  
Thanks a LoT!!!  I provide to update my repository as soon I can! Also I 
add your name to the thanks pages!


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Re: [CinCV] test, cinelerra on 64bit Hardy Heron

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august ha scritto:

4.) the Akirad packages are still causing problems for me.  I hear the
workaround is to do sudo cinelerra...but I don't want to do that with my
current permissions setup.   any ideas for a fix
  

Now the packages works great also on hardy, have you try to do

sudo chown youruser:yourgroup ~/.bcast  ?

byez

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[CinCV] Some update about repository akirad

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Anyone with big heart ( like Raffa :-) ) can modify

- on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php

wget -q http://repository.akirad.net/dists/akirad.key -O- | sudo apt-key 
add -


with

wget -q http://repository.akirad.net/dists/akirad.key -O- | sudo apt-key 
add - && sudo apt-get update


- and on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs.php

http://project.akirad.net/node/12";>Cinelerra is very easy -
Introduction to Cinelerra, for beginners, by Paolo Rampino
 

with

http://akiradproject.net/tutorial";>Cinelerra is very easy ( 
also availabile in italian ) -

Introduction to Cinelerra, for beginners, by Paolo Rampino
 

thanks a lot

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Re: [CinCV] [Bug 485] New: Frozen after start with gdm in ubuntu studio 8.04

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http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=485

   Summary: Frozen after start with gdm in ubuntu studio 8.04
   Product: Cinelerra
   Version: 2.1
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: normal
  Priority: Medium
 Component: User Interface
AssignedTo: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi!

Before bug summary I thanks for people who working about Cinelerra project!
This is a very powerful program to editing videos.

I use Ubuntu Studio 8.04 new installed. First I used Paolo Rampino akirad (
cinelerra-generic ) package what found in official cinelerra site. After start
was cinelera gui sleeped. Som time ago I was restart my computer but was
problem with NVIDIA kernel module so I installed the module from NVIDIA site
after stoped gdm. If this was ready I was start X server with startx command
and start cinelerra too. In this case cinelerra working normaly. Restart
computer with gdm and this case again does not workin cinelerra.

Best regards!
Josef

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Start computer with gdm
2. Start cinelerra from menu
3. Kill cinelerra because frozen

  

Try to add

AlwaysLoginCurrentSession=false

on

/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom

under

[daemon]

section

for me works...

Byez

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Re: [CinCV] Hash Sum Mismatch.

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John Graves ha scritto:

FYI,

While installing the latest build, I'm seeing a hash error:

W: Failed to fetch 
http://repository.akirad.net/pool/main-hardy/cinelerra-generic_2.1.0-1svn20080415akirad1_amd64.deb

  Hash Sum mismatch

-John

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sudo apt-get update

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[CinCV] Cinelerra Tutorial for beginner

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You can find a cinelerra tutorial for beginner at this link:

Cinelerra is very easy:

part 1
http://project.akirad.net/node/12
part 2
http://project.akirad.net/node/14
part 3
http://project.akirad.net/node/15

And its italian version

Cinelerra è semplicissimo:

parte prima
http://www.akirad.net/node/12
parte seconda
http://www.akirad.net/node/14
part terza
http://www.akirad.net/node/15

I hope this help!

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Re: [CinCV] P2 or Red Proxies

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>> Can you give us/me some MXF DVCPROHD example files? I'd love to do
>> some compatibility testing.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> -Richard

Richard,
I stumbled upon some HVX200/DVCPROHD clips here:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=57068&highlight=sample+footage

Though, I wasn't successful testing the first one in the list that I downloaded 
on my XP machine at work.  Perhaps you might have better luck.  The thread says 
something about being created/viewable only on Mac, but I'm not sure that's 
true.  I'll verify later this weekend.

scott

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Re: [CinCV] Can I Get Involved?

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>   The one dialog I think is in most dire need of refactoring is the
> Record dialog.  But that can be daunting, as it interfaces with
> hardware like DV cameras and video grabbers.  Maybe the Format and
> Render dialogs?
> 
> -- 
> Herman Robak
> 

Ah, but wouldn't it be wonderful if Recording was fixed in CinCV v2.0!
:)
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Re: [CinCV] Blog post about the new name

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Hi Aaron,
Good stuff.  However, I think the one statement:
"The new NLE will be developed separately but based on the existing Cinelerra 
code base which will continue to be developed by Heroine Virtual."

Needs to read something more like:
"The developers of the new NLE will create an optimized codebase based upon 
much of the feature set of Cinelerra.  Cinelerra will continue to be developed 
by Heroine Virtual."

I make that clarification because your original statement makes it sound as if 
Lumiera is based upon the HV codebase.  Rather, it is the features of Cinelerra 
that Lumiera will try to emulate/expand upon/make better.

cheers,
scott

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> I finally had time to do a brief blog post this morning on the name change.
> 
> http://www.thesourceshow.org/node/89
> 
> I posted it to LXer and Digg.
> 
> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Welcome_Lumiera
> 
> If anything is inaccurate or needs to be added please let me know.
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Aaron Newcomb
> http://www.thesourceshow.org
> http://www.opennewsshow.org
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Re: [CinCV] trouble opening project after crash

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Anne,
I wonder if it is a corruption somewhere in the XML.  Can you open a second 
instance of Cinelerra, create a new project with the same settings, paste in 
your video and keyframes from the first instance, save it under a new name and 
then see if the new project crashes?

Awhile back, I had a problem where the XML EDL file became huge (>2MB), with a 
bunch of repeating tags.  Normally, the XML should be pretty lightweight 
(<200K).  What size is it?

scott
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From: Anne Tennies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'm having trouble reloading my current project after cinelerra crashes
> -- and sometimes after I close it normally -- regardless of whether I've
> saved my file.  Sometimes I can get it going by manually editing my .xml
> file to close tags (label, brightness), but that's not always a problem.
> I end up trying a bizzare combination of opening the .xml in a text
> editor and saving it (sometimes adding and deleting a space so it
> changes a little), opening a different project in cinelerra first and
> then trying again, and checking my system monitor to make sure I don't
> have any traces of the program still open.  Eventually, I can usually
> coax it to open so I can get more work done, but if anyone has a better
> idea, I'd really appreciate the help.
> 
> I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy on an Athlon 64 3500+, and it was tricky enough
> to get cinelerra running right that I'm reluctant to update/upgrade
> until I finish this particular video.
> 
> In the terminal, as soon as I see the 'run 1 killing pid' line, I know
> it's not going to work, even though cinelerra will stay open for days
> and say it's loading (if I let it)
> _
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cinelerra
> Cinelerra 2.1CV Wed Sep 27 20:49:50 CDT 2006 SVN Version 905 (C)2006
> Heroine Virtual Ltd.
> 
> Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
> and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.
> BRenderThread::start 1 map=11842695 equivalent=0 brender_start=14783
> result=14783 end=14783
> RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started
> RenderFarmClientThread::run: Session finished.
> BRenderThread::start 1 map=14783 equivalent=0 brender_start=14783
> result=14783 end=52109
> No accelerated IMDCT transform found
> No accelerated IMDCT transform found
> RenderFarmWatchdog::run 1 killing pid 9809
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> Anne
> 
> 
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Re: [CinCV] idea for Lumiera graphic chart

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 --Hi all, hi Scott,
> 
> I see what you want to do...
> Maybe one of these fonts are better ==> 
> http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=115&page=2&nb_ppp_old=10&text=Lumiera&nb_ppp
> =50&psize=m&classt=alpha&l%5B%5D=10&l%5B%5D=1
> I like :
> - http://www.dafont.com/masquerade.font
> - http://www.dafont.com/quentincaps.font
> - http://www.dafont.com/verve.font
> - http://www.dafont.com/testarossa-nf.font
> - preference for this one ==> 
> http://www.dafont.com/belshaw.font?nb_ppp=50&classt=alpha&l[]=10&l[]=1&text=Lumi
> era
> - 
> http://www.dafont.com/chippewafalls.font?nb_ppp=50&classt=alpha&l[]=10&l[]=1&tex
> t=Lumiera
> - etc etc there are a lot!!
> 
> Roland (wildhostile)
> >  >
>  > btw: the first motion-picture was not made by the Lumiere brothers but
>  > by Louis le Prince ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundhay_Garden_Scene

Roland,
Those fonts look good.  I will try to do a revised Lumiera graphic with a few 
of the nicer ones.  

thanks for the link!
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Re: [CinCV] idea for Lumiera graphic chart

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Roland,
Ah yes..that's more like it.  I'll try to do another version of Lumiera with 
three of the nicer fonts of the bunch.
thanks for the links,
scott

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From: Roland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi all, hi Scott,
> 
> I see what you want to do...
> Maybe one of these fonts are better ==> 
> http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=115&page=2&nb_ppp_old=10&text=Lumiera&nb_ppp
> =50&psize=m&classt=alpha&l%5B%5D=10&l%5B%5D=1
> I like :
> - http://www.dafont.com/masquerade.font
> - http://www.dafont.com/quentincaps.font
> - http://www.dafont.com/verve.font
> - http://www.dafont.com/testarossa-nf.font
> - preference for this one ==> 
> http://www.dafont.com/belshaw.font?nb_ppp=50&classt=alpha&l[]=10&l[]=1&text=Lumi
> era
> - 
> http://www.dafont.com/chippewafalls.font?nb_ppp=50&classt=alpha&l[]=10&l[]=1&tex
> t=Lumiera
> - etc etc there are a lot!!
> 
> Roland (wildhostile)
> 
> 
> 
> On 2008-03-15 16:10, Roland wrote:
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  > Just some "ideas":
>  > - colors : Black and White ==> like the first picture on this site :
>  > http://www.institut-lumiere.org/francais/films/1seance/accueil.html
>  > - fonts: Black and White ==> like the first and the second pictures on
>  > the same web site :
>  > http://www.institut-lumiere.org/francais/films/1seance/accueil.html
>  > - logo: ?: maybe the "cinematographe"
>  >
>  > btw: the first motion-picture was not made by the Lumiere brothers but
>  > by Louis le Prince ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundhay_Garden_Scene
>  >
>  > Roland (wildhostile)
>  >
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Re: [CinCV] More logos for Lumiera

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Here is another option with three different font types, riffing off of the 
original "Cinematographe Lumiere" artwork:
http://content.serveftp.net/video/lumiera_three.jpg

scott

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Re: [CinCV] Lumiera logo try 3

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Thorsten Wilms ha scritto:

On Sat, 2008-03-15 at 13:16 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
I have  added  also  Lumiera NL video editor tribute to lumiere brothers 
in the rounds of lens



This doesn't add any value to the logo and requires a huge size to be
somewhat readable. A logo isn't something a user will carefully inspect.
It has to work in a flash of attention.

  
It wouldn't be readable, only for decorative purpose... to be readable 
can be replaced with only 1 band text like Lumiera NLVE

and film looks like a cutter and "L",



To me, it looks like a hard bend film strip. That makes it a damaged
film strip.
  

Ok, I'm wait for your logo idea...


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[CinCV] Lumiera logo try 3

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I have read all email about logo guide line... and I have redraw new 
logo whit only 1 color. The idea is the same film and camera lens, but  
I have  added  also  Lumiera NL video editor tribute to lumiere brothers 
in the rounds of lens and film looks like a cutter and "L", on internal 
cut can be  see "U"  and  the center  contains "M". In png you can see 
the lens gradients, but it can remove without problem as you can see 
downloading  the  source  package  with all draft. We can change color 
and add shadows and slick effect without problems.


preview:
http://project.akirad.net/lumiera/lumiera_logo_03.png
source and full previews:
http://project.akirad.net/lumiera/lumiera_logo_try03.zip

enjoy!

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Re: [CinCV] Sync (weird) issue

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Leandro,
I have a few suggestions here:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/06/beginners-guide-to-exporting-video-from.html#troubleshooting

If those don't help, you can also use the "nudge" feature to correct 
audio/video sync problems where the drift is constant:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/05/nudge-avidemux2-and-reminder-about.html

scott

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> Hi there!
> 
> I'm having a weird out-o-sync problem.
> 
> I'm editing a continous 44 minute shot. The first thing to do was to
> sync audio and video. I don't have a very powerfull machine, so that
> alone was nightmarish, since I had some difficulties in playback
> everything smoothly. But after some tries, I got it right.
> 
> Then I just color corrected the entire track and added an extra video
> track for png beggining titles and ending credits. I rendered two
> segments of the film to test it and... I get audio and video out of
> sync in the first seconds, but not in the middle seconds. I didn't
> render the entire video to check when does the problem disappears.
> 
> I've tried rendering in two ways, all resulting in the same situation:
> a direct .mov file AND m2v+ac3 "mplexed" .mpeg file.
> 
> Any ideas? :|
> 
> Thanks,
> Leandro
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Re: [CinCV] Print HDV to Tape?

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Kaka,
I have a 720P HDV cam.  I use these steps to render out a file to a proper 
MPEG-TS format:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2006/10/rendering-cam-compatible-hdv-mpegts.html

Then I use the test-mpeg2 utility in libiec61883 to upload to the cam:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/search/label/test-mpeg2

scott

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> Hello,
> 
> I've completed a short HDV movie using Cinelerra and need to export it on to
> MiniDV for exhibition purposes.  Is there any method in Linux that would
> allow me to export it (ala an HDV "print to tape" function on most Windows
> editors) back into a camera?  I am not afraid of the command line.
> 
> Thanks.


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Thanks.
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Re: [CinCV] Idea for logo try 2

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Martin Ellison wrote:
Good to see, thanks for working on it. What is the round thing 
supposed to be? Is it a camera? or a DVD?

My models: hd camera lens...
like this : http://www.usa.canon.com/app/html/HDV/XHA1/

thank you for feedback!

byez

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[CinCV] Idea for logo try 2

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Thanks a lot for suggestions!

I try to redraw logo with more motion and new ideas. Basically, I want 
to use the modern camera lens colors, anyway mind that this logo is only 
a draft!


You can see new logo:
http://project.akirad.net/lumiera/lumiera_logo_01.png

sources and more tries can be downloaded here:

http://project.akirad.net/lumiera/lumiera_logo_draft.zip

All suggestions are wellcome!

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Re: [CinCV] Idea for logo

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Christian Thaeter ha scritto:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I have draw a draft logo for new lumiera a film and camera mix

to see draft go to http://project.akirad.net/lumiera/lumiera_logo.png

Do you like?


I like the general theme, film/lens, but...
Some suggestions for a logo:
 * Should be recognizeable
  
you are right, I try to redraw and add new elements... you can see new 
job on:


http://project.akirad.net/lumiera/lumiera_logo_01.png
http://project.akirad.net/lumiera/lumiera_logo_01.svg.zip

 * Easy to print (on posters, t-shirts, ..)
 * (thus..) use only a few full colors, no gradients, mixed colors
 * high contrast
  
Basically idea is to use a modern lens colors and it is a draft, it can 
be redraw to be more printer friendly

 * make it look good on diffrent background colors
  

done

 * Don't require/expect white background
  

done

 * only vector graphic as authorative source would be acceptable
 * should scale from microscopic size (favicon) up to big posters,
  

source available now

   maybe handcrafted for special purpose (leave details/frames out
   for small ones)

anyways there is so much more to do before we shall care for a logo, I
am currently setting up the project server. We need people helping with
the website, coders etc...
  

right Christian, I can help site design :) ... Logo is a part of it :p

Christian

  



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Re: [CinCV] Idea for logo

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Wesley S. ha scritto:
2008/3/12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:


I have draw a draft logo for new lumiera a film and camera mix

to see draft go to http://project.akirad.net/lumiera/lumiera_logo.png

Do you like?


Personally, I don't like it that much.
The center part has something cool, but that outer frame ruins 
everything imho.


Also, I would prefer an SVG icon/logo.

--
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Human Knowledge Belongs To The World - Antitrust (2001)
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The svg source here:

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Re: [CinCV] Idea for logo

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2008/3/12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

I have draw a draft logo for new lumiera a film and camera mix

 to see draft go to http://project.akirad.net/lumiera/lumiera_logo.png

 Do you like?



Hey, the Logo is really cool, how did you do it? Did you use inkscape?

Cheers
-Richard

  

Yes, inkscape, but it is a draft, all suggestions are wellcome!

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[CinCV] Idea for logo

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I have draw a draft logo for new lumiera a film and camera mix

to see draft go to http://project.akirad.net/lumiera/lumiera_logo.png

Do you like?

byez

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Re: [CinCVS] akirad repository ready for hardy

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On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 09:48 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

please update the http://cv.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php
for Hardy*:
sudo wget http://repository.akirad.net/dists/hardy.list"; -O 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list



Updated.
I took the liberty of removing the ".
Please check everything is OK.

Ciao!
Raffaella
  

Perfect

Ciao!

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[CinCVS] akirad repository ready for hardy

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please update the http://cv.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php

for Gutsy:
sudo wget http://repository.akirad.net/dists/gutsy.list"; -O 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list
wget -q http://repository.akirad.net/dists/akirad.key -O- | sudo apt-key 
add - && sudo apt-get update


for Hardy*:
sudo wget http://repository.akirad.net/dists/hardy.list"; -O 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/akirad.list
wget -q http://repository.akirad.net/dists/akirad.key -O- | sudo apt-key 
add - && sudo apt-get update



* you need to setup cinelerra to work with pulseaudio, do:

Settings> Preferences> playback> audiodriver> esound>

on server leave empity
on port set 7007

the packages:

# cinelerra (x86 and x86_64 without opengl 2.0 video card)*
# cinelerra-generic (all x86 and x86_64 with opengl 2.0 video card)*
# cinelerra-k7 (amd32 without opengl 2.0 video card)*
# cinelerra-k7gl (amd32 with opengl 2.0 video card)*
# cinelerra-k8 (amd k8 optimized with opengl 2.0 video card)*

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[CinCVS] updates to cvs.cinelerra.org website

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Hey guys,
Who is updating the website these days?  On http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs.php, 
I want to change the link to my Beginners Guide to Exporting Video to:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/06/beginners-guide-to-exporting-video-from.html


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[CinCVS] why not...

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About a new name of cin3, we can use on-line vote with the best/all name on

http://pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/Names

We can start 10 day vote for new name and we can finally stop this 
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Re: [CinCVS] my poston line

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>  Be warned though going this Linux route is pretty frustrating to 
> start with but after a time learning the rewards are great.
> If I sound like an advocate I guess it's because I am.
>  
> Doug
Truer words were never said..
:)
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Re: [CinCVS] Vote for a Name for a new NLE

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I'm torn between Freecine and Verite (without the CV)

Ah..Verite.
scott
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> 
> 
> Richard Spindler wrote:
> > The Following Names were the "preferred" choices on the wikipage at
> > http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/Names
> > for more information about the individual names, see there.
> > 
> > How to vote? Make an "X" in the Box before the name, and send this
> > mail back to the list.
> > 
> > 
> > [x] Cinchrony
> > [ ] CinNG
> > [ ] StCinner
> > [ ] Freecine
> > [ ] Video Edith
> > [ ] VeriteCV
> > [ ] CineCV
> > [ ] Free Cut Pro
> > [ ] CiNLEss
> > [ ] cinleia
> > [ ] CineTris
> > [ ] LerraCine
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > -Richard
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[ ] Cinchrony
[ ] CinNG
[ ] StCinner
[ ] Freecine
[ ] Video Edith
[ ] VeriteCV 
[ ] CineCV

[X] Free Cut Pro
[ ] CiNLEss
[ ] cinleia
[ ] CineTris
[ ] LerraCine

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[CinCVS] An Idea for cin3

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I be able to redraw all cinelerra icons on svg and I can contribute to
cin3 in this way...

On attachement an example ( under gpl3 )...

Byez

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Re: [CinCVS] Cin-3 naming.

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Florian Cramer ha scritto:

Cine-Eye

or a phonetic variation thereof, after Dziga Vertov, and in honor of his 
inventions in cinematography and editing (such as in "The Man with the

Movie Camera").

-F

  

And why not in honor of change...

CINERA

Cin(elerra)Era(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Era)

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Re: [CinCVS] cinelerra3

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I smell naming contest coming soon!
:)
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> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:20:40 +0100, Heroine Virtual Ltd.  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Could you rename it something besides Cinelerra for version 3?
> 
>   I am glad you asked.  "Cin3" is a not even a fork of Cinelerra, it's a  
> rewrite.
> It's about time to get another name.  We needed that extra push.
> 
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hvirtual/po/it.gmo is empty as well.
pt_BR.gmo is empty too but the other languages .gmo are not.
  

Attenzione! Remove all .gmo before compile, but you can also compile
only it.po with:

msgfmt -o cinelerra.mo it.po

and then

cp cinelerra.mo /usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/


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Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 305] utf-8 support

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hvirtual/po/it.gmo is empty as well.
pt_BR.gmo is empty too but the other languages .gmo are not.
  
Attenzione! Remove all .gmo before compile, but you can also compile 
only it.po with:

*
msgfmt -o cinelerra.mo it.po

and then

cp cinelerra.mo */usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/


byez

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Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 305] utf-8 support

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Raffaella Traniello ha scritto:

She is as stubborn as ever. Or is it me?

I think I have the charset:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale -a
(...)
it_IT.iso885915
it_IT.utf8
(...)

But:

  

env LANG="it_IT.ISO-8859-15" cinelerra


With this command she opens in English.

I tried also with:

$ LANG="it_IT.iso885915" LANGUAGE="it_IT.iso885915"
LC_ALL="it_IT.iso885915" cinelerra

and similar combinations with no avail.


If Cin doesn't support utf-8 and Ubuntu has not ISO-8859-15 charset, how
is it possible that on Feisty I could run Cin in Italian with:

$ LANG="it_IT.utf8" LANGUAGE="it_IT:it" cinelerra


Boh!

Ciao
Raffaella
  

On cinelerra main.C, you can read this:

// detect an UTF-8 locale and try to use a non-Unicode locale instead
// <---Beginning of dirty hack
// This hack will be removed as soon as Cinelerra is UTF-8 compliant
   char *s, *language;

// Query user locale
   if ((s = getenv("LC_ALL"))  ||
   (s = getenv("LC_MESSAGES")) ||
   (s = getenv("LC_CTYPE")) ||
   (s = getenv ("LANG")))
   {
// Test if user locale is set to Unicode   
   if (strstr(s, ".UTF-8"))

   {
// extract language  from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 language = strtok (s, ".@");
// set language as the default locale
 setenv("LANG", language, 1);
   }
   }
// End of dirty hack --->

This means that Cinelerra not support UTF-8 and an hack try to use 
utf-8  anyway. On ubuntu work only if you set LC_ALL to it_IT.utf8, but 
with bad caracters code. I not be able to know why your ubuntu not 
localize cinelerra...  but you can:


try to check if exist this file:

/usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/cinelerra.mo

if not download it.po, compile it as cinelerra.mo and put it on 
/usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES


Otherwise try my precompiled package...

But if not work with this: "sarà sfiga! ;P"

byez (Ciauz)

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Re: [CinCVS] Fwd: I believe in cinelerra

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Fred Williams wrote:

It would take some time to go into that and it's very off topic.  The
short answer is, Look at Micro$oft.  If you're really want to get into
it, see my paper, "The Secret of Money: Beyond Socialism" at:

Yes it's all off topic, If you want I can describe why I completely 
disagree to your paper directly to your private email.


bye

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Re: [CinCVS] Fwd: I believe in cinelerra

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Fred Williams write:

In other words, lots of work that are a pain in the ass but has to be
done in order to advance properly. And passion has a limit. There must
be people getting money to work on that.


I was with you up to that point.  Money is the root of all evil.  It
will totally corrupt the process.  If you want money go to Micro$oft and
develop for them.  If you don't, (and I do realise that yopu may not
have been referring to yourself), then why would you assume something
like this?  If this is to be a true cooperative effort, then let it be a
volunteer effort.

  
Is money a root of all evil??? In my opinion "many money" may be a root 
of evil,

if users want to pay the work of the developers.. where is the evil?

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Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 305] utf-8 support

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Raffaella Traniello ha scritto:

On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 21:44 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
If your distribution have only UTF-8 support (like ubuntu), before you 
mast create language carset 
On italian translation work great!



I'm on Ubuntu with locale en_NZ.UTF-8.

On Feisty I was able to run Cin in Italian with:

$ LANG="it_IT.utf8" LANGUAGE="it_IT:it" cinelerra

Now, on Gutsy I can't any more. Not even with:

$ localedef -c -i it_IT -f ISO-8859-15 it_IT.ISO-8859-15
$ env LANG=$(echo $LANG | sed -e s/UTF-8/ISO-8859-15/g) cinelerra

What am I doing wrong?

Grazie
Ciao

Raffaella



  

Ops, I'm broken :) ( this is the bug fix of previuos email )

after localedef ( you need to use localedef only one time ) you can use

env LANG="it_IT.ISO-8859-15" cinelerra

it's all

Ma figurati ;p

Ciao
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Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 305] utf-8 support

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Raffaella Traniello ha scritto:

On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 21:44 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
If your distribution have only UTF-8 support (like ubuntu), before you 
mast create language carset 
On italian translation work great!



I'm on Ubuntu with locale en_NZ.UTF-8.

On Feisty I was able to run Cin in Italian with:

$ LANG="it_IT.utf8" LANGUAGE="it_IT:it" cinelerra

Now, on Gutsy I can't any more. Not even with:

$ localedef -c -i it_IT -f ISO-8859-15 it_IT.ISO-8859-15
$ env LANG=$(echo $LANG | sed -e s/UTF-8/ISO-8859-15/g) cinelerra

What am I doing wrong?

Grazie
Ciao

Raffaella
  

Very strange, can you send me the output of env?

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Re: [CinCVS] GVFX is working now... an hollywoodFX-like package for GNU systems

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marquitux caballero ha scritto:

hi people, we are in an importat fase of our work, alex has released the first 
version of the script:
http://gvfx.blogspot.com 

  
Your project is wonderfull, I wish that cinelerra developers try to add 
this code on video effect.


byez

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Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 305] utf-8 support

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Stefan de Konink ha scritto:

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quim schreef:
  

Sorry, (I feel stupid) but the keys of accent still don't work for
titles. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

...



Are you the brightest kid in class ;)

es_ES.utf8 is not in your list, why are you still setting it?
  

The fact is that I speak catalan (maybe you know, a lenguage spoke in
the north-east of Spain, Catalonia) and all my computer is configured in
catalan. Allways. Since the instalation. Can it be a problem? For more
information: till now I've been using the Cinelerra english version. 



Then try this:

export LC_ALL=ca_ES.utf8




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Try to use my translation fix as descibed on cinelerra wiki:

/"If your distribution have only UTF-8 support (like ubuntu), before you 
mast create language carset with:


localedef -c -i (language_prefix) -f (your ISO-8859 variant) 
(language_prefix).(your ISO-8859 variant)

ex. localedef -c -i it_IT -f ISO-8859-15 it_IT.ISO-8859-15

and then you can run cinelerra with
env LANG=$(echo $LANG | sed -e s/UTF-8/(your ISO-8859 variant)/g) cinelerra
ex. env LANG=$(echo $LANG | sed -e s/UTF-8/ISO-8859-15/g) cinelerra"

wiki link:
http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/wiki/doku.php?id=english_manual:cinelerra_cv_en_21#available_localizations
/iso_8859 link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8859

On italian translation work great!

Byez

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Re: [CinCVS] second question

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Hey Bas,
Just in case you use nudge, I was a little confused about it, so I wrote myself 
a reminder of how it worked:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/05/nudge-avidemux2-and-reminder-about.html

scott
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From: "Cillian de Roiste" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Jan 15, 2008 3:18 PM, Bas Idzenga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There is another problem with cinelerra.
> > The movie and the sound files do not match!! I loaded an AVI file, but
> > the sound of the next scene starts, when the scene before is visable...
> >
> > any idea's???
> Hi Bas,
> 
> I just edit with raw dv files and that works fine. For other
> containers/codecs you could get lucky but I wouldn't count on it.
> 
> If the audio drifts out of sync you should check that in the
> preferences you don't have "play every frame" selected so that it will
> drop frames to keep the video in sync with the audio.
> If the audio is out of sync by a constant amount you can play with
> "nudge" to sync it up and then paste in the the appropriate amount of
> silence.
> 
> --
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Re: [CinCVS] Help installing

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You had used repository from Valentina Masseri that not work on Athlon 
XP, replace with repository.akirad.net and install cinelerra-k7 (If you 
have Opengl 2.0 video card as Nvidia 7xxx with proprietary driver you 
can install cinelerra-k7gl).


Go to

http://cv.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
or
http://project.akirad.net/node/18

for detailed istructions

After replace do from terminal

sudo apt-get install cinelerra-k7 (or cinelerra-k7gl)

Byez

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Doug Pollard ha scritto:
I thought I was installing cinelerra Cv version but this does not 
appear to be the right one??

 Doug




Doug Pollard wrote:

Typed into terminal,   Cinelerra
below is output : Cinelerra 2.1CV (C) 2006 Heroine Virtual Ltd.
Compiled on dv nov 23 13:59:58 CET 2007

Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.
Illegal instruction (core dumped)

  Thank you   Doug



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

To start cinelerra from terminal  type
cinelerra
if do not start paste here the terminal output


Paolo Rampino aka Akirad

Doug Pollard writes:
Ok Tried,  sudo apt-get install cinelerra   in terminal as per 
instructions.  Did not work.
Under third party I had entered   http://gis.tv/~vale/ubuntu32 ./  
Something wrong with this??


Reply I recieved in terminal:
reading package list... done
building dependancy tree
reading state information...done
cinelerra is already the newest version.
0 upgrade.0 newly installed.0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Tried to find something like this reply in Ubuntu book but did not 
find it so I don't know what it means. I tried to open but 
Cinelerra will not open  What to do now?
   Thanks 
Doug[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Doug Pollard ha scritto:

Hi all,
I would be thankful for help here. I brought  Cinelerra into 
Ubuntu with synaptic and  clicked on  sound & video,  video 
production and found the Cinelerra icon.  Now what command to I 
use to install in terminal ? I have installed Ubuntu 7.10 on 
an ix86  HP pavillian a720n

  Thanks Doug

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Re: [CinCVS] Help installing

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To start cinelerra from terminal  type
cinelerra
if do not start paste here the terminal output


Paolo Rampino aka Akirad

Doug Pollard writes:
Ok Tried,  sudo apt-get install cinelerra   in terminal as per 
instructions.  Did not work.
Under third party I had entered   http://gis.tv/~vale/ubuntu32 ./  
Something wrong with this??


Reply I recieved in terminal:
reading package list... done
building dependancy tree
reading state information...done
cinelerra is already the newest version.
0 upgrade.0 newly installed.0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Tried to find something like this reply in Ubuntu book but did not 
find it so I don't know what it means. I tried to open but Cinelerra 
will not open  What to do now?
   Thanks Doug
  



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Hi all,
I would be thankful for help here. I brought  Cinelerra into Ubuntu 
with synaptic and  clicked on  sound & video,  video production and 
found the Cinelerra icon.  Now what command to I use to install in 
terminal ? I have installed Ubuntu 7.10 on an ix86  HP pavillian 
a720n

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Re: [CinCVS] Help installing

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Hi all,
I would be thankful for help here. I brought  Cinelerra into Ubuntu 
with synaptic and  clicked on  sound & video,  video production and 
found the Cinelerra icon.  Now what command to I use to install in 
terminal ? I have installed Ubuntu 7.10 on an ix86  HP pavillian 
a720n

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sudo apt-get install cinelerra

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[CinCVS] new italian translation with some fix

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Little fix on Italian Translation:

you can download from:

http://project.akirad.net/cinelerra/it.po

or

http://project.akirad.net/cinelerra/it.po.gz

Byez

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[CinCVS] ...greetings...

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Merry christmas and happy new year!

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Re: [CinCVS] New repository ubuntu

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ons 2007-12-12 klockan 16:01 +0100 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

hi, I've created a new repository with cinelerra for ubuntu gutsy with:

-traslation support on ubuntu
-better support for simple i386
-multi architecture support ( soon also ppc )
-variants generic ( intel + opengl)   k7  (athlon duron)  k8  (amd64  +  
opengl)


( before you must remove old cinelerra repository and, if installed, 
ffmpegcvs)

if you want to add, simply copy in the terminal follow lines:

echo "deb http://repository.akirad.net akirad-gutsy main" | sudo tee -a 
/etc/apt/sources.list
echo "deb-src http://repository.akirad.net akirad-gutsy main" | sudo tee 
-a /etc/apt/sources.list
wget -q http://repository.akirad.net/dists/akirad.key -O- | sudo apt-key 
add -

sudo apt-get update

now you can install with:

sudo apt-get install cinelerra # for i386, x86_64 without opengl
sudo apt-get install cinelerra-generic # for pentium4 (or sup), x86_64 
with opengl
sudo apt-get install cinelerra-k7 # for athlon, duron k7 series without 
opengl

sudo apt-get install cinelerra-k8 # for amd64 with opengl

also available source, in attachment translation patch.

Byez

Paolo Rampino aka Akirad




You'll out this on the wiki/download-page too, I guess?

Gasten

  

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[CinCVS] New repository ubuntu

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hi, I've created a new repository with cinelerra for ubuntu gutsy with:

-traslation support on ubuntu
-better support for simple i386
-multi architecture support ( soon also ppc )
-variants generic ( intel + opengl)   k7  (athlon duron)  k8  (amd64  +  
opengl)


( before you must remove old cinelerra repository and, if installed, 
ffmpegcvs)

if you want to add, simply copy in the terminal follow lines:

echo "deb http://repository.akirad.net akirad-gutsy main" | sudo tee -a 
/etc/apt/sources.list
echo "deb-src http://repository.akirad.net akirad-gutsy main" | sudo tee 
-a /etc/apt/sources.list
wget -q http://repository.akirad.net/dists/akirad.key -O- | sudo apt-key 
add -

sudo apt-get update

now you can install with:

sudo apt-get install cinelerra # for i386, x86_64 without opengl
sudo apt-get install cinelerra-generic # for pentium4 (or sup), x86_64 
with opengl
sudo apt-get install cinelerra-k7 # for athlon, duron k7 series without 
opengl

sudo apt-get install cinelerra-k8 # for amd64 with opengl

also available source, in attachment translation patch.

Byez

Paolo Rampino aka Akirad







--- it.po.old	2007-12-12 15:48:54.0 +0100
+++ it.po.new	2007-12-12 15:55:57.0 +0100
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 "Project-Id-Version: cinelerra 2.1\n"
 "Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 "POT-Creation-Date: 2007-11-21 10:43+0100\n"
-"PO-Revision-Date: 2007-11-30 01:18+0100\n"
+"PO-Revision-Date: 2007-12-05 12:00+0100\n"
 "Last-Translator: Paolo Rampino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\n"
 "Language-Team: Paolo Rampino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\n"
 "MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
@@ -91,7 +91,7 @@
 
 #: cinelerra/adeviceprefs.C:362
 msgid "Stop playback locks up."
-msgstr "Ferma ricerca riproduzione."
+msgstr "Ferma riproduzione bloccata."
 
 #: cinelerra/adeviceprefs.C:390
 msgid "Server:"
@@ -138,7 +138,7 @@
 
 #: cinelerra/assetedit.C:189
 msgid "Select a file for this asset:"
-msgstr "File per questo elemento :"
+msgstr "File per questo elemento:"
 
 #: cinelerra/assetedit.C:192
 msgid "File format:"
@@ -263,7 +263,7 @@
 
 #: cinelerra/assetedit.C:572
 msgid "Automatically Fix Interlacing"
-msgstr "Auto-Aggiusta Interlaccio"
+msgstr "Auto-regola Interlaccio"
 
 #: cinelerra/assetedit.h:71
 msgid " Path"
@@ -279,7 +279,7 @@
 
 #: cinelerra/assetpopup.C:145
 msgid "Rebuild index"
-msgstr "Riscostruire l'indice"
+msgstr "Ricostruire l'indice"
 
 #: cinelerra/assetpopup.C:169
 #: cinelerra/awindowmenu.C:87
@@ -370,7 +370,7 @@
 
 #: cinelerra/awindowgui.C:974
 msgid "Time Stamps"
-msgstr "Tempo in Sovraimpressione"
+msgstr "Tempo in Sovrimpressione"
 
 #: cinelerra/awindowgui.C:1482
 msgid "New bin"
@@ -386,7 +386,7 @@
 
 #: cinelerra/awindowgui.C:1527
 msgid "Delete asset from disk"
-msgstr "Cancella l'elemento dal disco"
+msgstr "Cancella elemento dal disco"
 
 #: cinelerra/awindowgui.C:1540
 msgid "Delete asset from project"
@@ -819,7 +819,7 @@
 #: cinelerra/channeledit.C:1494
 #: plugins/huesaturation/huesaturation.C:309
 msgid "Hue:"
-msgstr "Saturazione:"
+msgstr "Tinta:"
 
 #: cinelerra/channeledit.C:1503
 msgid "Whiteness:"
@@ -3098,7 +3098,7 @@
 
 #: cinelerra/playbackprefs.C:124
 msgid "Framerate achieved:"
-msgstr "Campioni in archivio:"
+msgstr "Vel. fotog. raggiunta:"
 
 #: cinelerra/playbackprefs.C:125
 #: cinelerra/zoombar.C:97
@@ -3326,7 +3326,7 @@
 
 #: cinelerra/record.C:54
 msgid "Record..."
-msgstr "Registro..."
+msgstr "Registra..."
 
 #: cinelerra/record.C:567
 msgid "record"
@@ -3580,7 +3580,7 @@
 
 #: cinelerra/recordtransport.C:159
 msgid "Record single frame"
-msgstr "Registro un frame solo"
+msgstr "Registra solo un fotogramma"
 
 #: cinelerra/recordtransport.C:183
 msgid "Preview recording"
@@ -3845,7 +3845,9 @@
 msgid ""
 "Ctrl + any transport command causes playback to only cover\n"
 "the region defined by the in/out points."
-msgstr "Ctrl + qualsiasi comando di trasporto riproducenla sola zona definita dai punti ingresso/uscita."
+msgstr ""
+"Ctrl + qualsiasi comando di avanzamento riproduce la sola zona\n"
+"definita dai punti ingresso/uscita."
 
 #: cinelerra/tipwindow.C:22
 msgid ""
@@ -3904,7 +3906,7 @@
 "Pressing Tab over a track toggles the Record status.\n"
 "Pressing Shift-Tab over a track toggles the Record status of all the other tracks.\n"
 msgstr ""
-"Premendo Teb sulla traccia metterà in stato di registrazione la traccia.\n"
+"Premendo Tab sulla traccia mette

Re: [CinCVS] RE: Installing Cinelerra Ubuntu Studio 7.10 Gutsy...

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ubuntu32 gutsy packages DON'T work with k7 or any amd systems.

Why???

Cos i only have amd64 and i386 architecture available to build packages.


From the other side users are right cos they can't find proper info..


Any chance to change info here:

http://cv.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#apt

or anywhere, cos, really have no time to answer same questions twice a 
day


:D

thx


Thanks for your response.  So, does that mean I should wait before I 
try to
reinstall it?  Or should I get a hold of the binary and compile it 
myself?

If that would work, I would appreciate any assistance on how to do that.
That would be totally new to me.  Of course, I could always use alien to
port an .rpm over the a .deb.  But not sure if that would work any 
better?


Oh, and you mention leaving further correspondence on the list?  I'd 
be glad
to, but not sure what you mean by the list.  Remember, I’m a noob to 
Linux,

still.

Thanks again.
Randall R. Foshee

-Original Message-
From: Herman Robak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 5:43 PM
To: Randall Foshee
Cc: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: RE: Installing Cinelerra Ubuntu Studio 7.10 Gutsy...

There seems to be some problem with your package,
which the packager _and_ the other Ubuntu users
should know about.

I'm cc-ing this to the mailing list;
please leave further correspondence on the list.

On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 21:34 -0600, Randall Foshee wrote:

Dear Sir,

Sorry it took so long to get back to you.
Okay, here's what happens when I type "cinelerra" into terminal on 
ubuntu

studio 7.10.  (Basically Ubuntu 7.10 with additional artwork and
preinstalled progs.)

Cinelerra 2.1CV (C) 2006 Heroine Virtual Ltd.
Compiled on dv nov 23 13:59:58 CET 2007

Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public 
License, and
you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under 
certain

conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra. Illegal
instruction (core dumped)

At first I got a libfaac.so.0 error.  So I reinstalled the libfaac 
for 32
bit machines through synaptic.  That error went away and the above 
message
now appears.  It looks like some kind of illega instruction is going 
on???

Not sure what it is or how to find out.

I do remember when running the elive cd, it mentioned an echo 
command that
had a number of "f"s in the command.  Like this fff.  I'll go 
reboot

that, and see exactly what it is, and will email you back with that

command

to see if it helps.

Hope this helps.

Randall R. Foshee

-Original Message-
From: Herman Robak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:08 AM
To: Randall Foshee
Subject: Re: Installing Cinelerra Ubuntu Studio 7.10 Gutsy...

On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 00:44 -0600, Randall Foshee wrote:
> Dear Sir,
>
> I would love to be able to use Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 7.10 
(Gutsy)

> but have had no success using Synaptic to install it.  It won't start
> once installed.  Any help would be appreciated.  Please keep in mind,
> I'm a noob when it comes to this type of stuff.

 Ok, I'll try some troubleshooting:

Do you see a splash screen or any error messages, or does it just
fail silently?

Please start Cinelerra from a terminal (xterminal, gterminal, whatever)
by typing "cinelerra" + Enter on the command line.  Do you see any
output there?  What output? (Cut and paste into the e-mail, if it is
no more than a screenful.  Otherwise take the last 20 lines, or try to
summarise.)



No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1167 - Release Date: 
12/3/2007

12:20 PM

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1167 - Release Date: 
12/3/2007

12:20 PM



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You can found cinelerra that work on amd k7 for ubuntu on my repository. 
You mast remove old cinelerra repository and repleace with this


echo "deb http://repository.akirad.net akirad-gutsy main" | sudo tee -a 
/etc/apt/sources.list
echo "deb-src http://repository.akirad.net akirad-gutsy main" | sudo tee 
-a /etc/apt/sources.list
wget -q http://repository.akirad.net/dists/akirad.key -O- | sudo apt-key 
add -

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get remove cinelerra libmpeg3hv libquicktimehv libguicast # if 
cinelerra already installed

sudo apt-get install cinelerra

thats all

byez
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Re: [CinCVS] Dummy's question: writing a video

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Ron,
I put together a doc on rendering options that worked for me:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/06/beginners-guide-to-exporting-video-from.html

Also in the "docs" section in the right-hand margin of the blog, there is a 
spreadsheet showing the results of  a study I did on the compatibility of 
Quicktime for Linux output from Cinelerra in specific media players.

scott

 -- Original message --
From: Craig Lawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This seems to be a common stumbling block. There are lots of rendering
> options, and it took me a while to sort through them.
> 
> Try:
>Format = MS-AVI or Quicktime for Linux
>Audio = Twos complement, 16 bit linear
>Video = MPEG-4, quantization = 5, fixed quantization
> 
> Most Linux players can handle those settings. Rendering for MS or Apple
> players, or for DVD is more complex.
> 
> Try experimenting with a 5 second clip.
> 
> Craig.
> 
> 
> Ron House wrote:
> > I have just managed to get Cinelerra installed and it looks great and
> > is obviously so full of goodies I'll take ages to work it all out. But
> > in trying a short test edit I ran into a big problem that I can't solve.
> >
> > I loaded a video filmed on my digital camera. It is a .AVI file
> > 38646940 bytes long (about 38 megs and 50 seconds of video). All I did
> > was chop a little bit off the end and 'render' it, once more to an AVI
> > file.
> >
> > The output was well over a gigabyte long, and the normal linux noatun
> > program played it back in false colours.
> >
> > So I suppose I have two related questions:
> >
> > 1) How do I get the file out in something like the same compression as
> > it went in? and
> >
> > 2) How do I get a file that ordinary play software understands properly?
> >
> > Just love the software, so I'm hoping someone can put me straight with
> > these questions. And apologies if they've already been asked a million
> > times!
> >
> >
> > Ron.
> >
> 
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[CinCVS] Italian cinelerra translator is back

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After 2 year, I post a new complete revision of Italian cinelerra
traslation (in attachments), also I've solved traslation problem on
ubuntu builds.

The ubuntu problem don't have any iso-8859-* language, so
you can just add  cinelerra.postinst and
cinelerra.postrm ( in attachments ) on trunk/hvirtual/debian and add on 
trunk/hvirtual/rules

dh_installdeb before dh_gencontrol.

The scripts cinelerra.postinst detect ubuntu and add iso-8859-15 on
running language and add a simple scripth (/usr/bin/Cinelerra) that
change (on the fly) utf-8 with iso-8859-15 language settings, also
modify cinelerra.desktop.
The scripts cinelerra.prerm detect ubuntu and remove previously
installed iso-8859-15 and /usr/bin/Cinelerra.

It's all.

Byez
Paolo Rampino aka Akirad



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Re: [CinCVS] Italian cinelerra translator is back

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

giskard ha scritto:

Il giorno ven, 30/11/2007 alle 09.49 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
  

After 2 year, I post a new complete revision of Italian cinelerra
traslation (in attachments), also I've solved traslation problem on
ubuntu builds.

The ubuntu problem don't have any iso-8859-* language, so
you can just add  cinelerra.postinst and
cinelerra.postrm ( in attachments ) on trunk/hvirtual/debian and add on
trunk/hvirtual/rules
dh_installdeb before dh_gencontrol.

The scripts cinelerra.postinst detect ubuntu and add iso-8859-15 on
running language and add a simple scripth (/usr/bin/Cinelerra) that
change (on the fly) utf-8 with iso-8859-15 language settings, also
modify cinelerra.desktop.
The scripts cinelerra.prerm detect ubuntu and remove previously
installed iso-8859-15 and /usr/bin/Cinelerra.

It's all.

Byez
Paolo Rampino aka Akirad



Il giorno ven, 30/11/2007 alle 09.49 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

  

After 2 year, I post a new complete revision of Italian cinelerra
traslation (in attachments), also I've solved traslation problem on
ubuntu builds.

The ubuntu problem don't have any iso-8859-* language, so
you can just add  cinelerra.postinst and
cinelerra.postrm ( in attachments ) on trunk/hvirtual/debian and add on
trunk/hvirtual/rules
dh_installdeb before dh_gencontrol.

The scripts cinelerra.postinst detect ubuntu and add iso-8859-15 on
running language and add a simple scripth (/usr/bin/Cinelerra) that
change (on the fly) utf-8 with iso-8859-15 language settings, also
modify cinelerra.desktop.
The scripts cinelerra.prerm detect ubuntu and remove previously
installed iso-8859-15 and /usr/bin/Cinelerra.

It's all.

Byez
Paolo Rampino aka Akirad



what? how?

please try to describe it in a better way, feel free to answer me
directly (via a private mail) in italian..
what? how? 


please try to describe it in a better way, feel free to answer me
directly (via a private mail) in italian..
  
Scusa non è chiaro? Ubuntu non traduce la gui di cinelerra in italiano 
perché manca completamente il supporto per il char code iso-8859-15 e io 
ho creato degli script che sopperiscono al problema.


Nel particolare quando si installa  lo script postinstall riconosce un 
distiribuzione ubuntu e cerca in le lingue installate nel sistema e vi 
aggiunge la lista con charset iso-8859-1. In più crea lanciatore per 
Cinelerra che passa la localizzazione con char code iso-8859-15.


Risultato Cinelerra in italiano anche su ubuntu.

Saluti Paolo

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[CinCVS] Italian cinelerra translator is back fix

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Fix The scripts cinelerra.postinst now detect ubuntu (now all *buntu) 
and add iso-8859-15 on

running language and add a simple scripth (/usr/bin/Cinelerra) that
change (on the fly) utf-8 with iso-8859-15 language settings, also
modify cinelerra.desktop.
The scripts cinelerra.prerm detect ubuntu (now all *buntu) and remove 
previously

installed iso-8859-15 and /usr/bin/Cinelerra.

It's all.

Byez
Paolo Rampino aka Akirad





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[CinCVS] Italian cinelerra translator is back

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

After 2 year, I post a new complete revision of Italian cinelerra
traslation (in attachments), also I've solved traslation problem on
ubuntu builds.

The ubuntu problem don't have any iso-8859-* language, so
you can just add  cinelerra.postinst and
cinelerra.postrm ( in attachments ) on trunk/hvirtual/debian and add on
trunk/hvirtual/rules
dh_installdeb before dh_gencontrol.

The scripts cinelerra.postinst detect ubuntu and add iso-8859-15 on
running language and add a simple scripth (/usr/bin/Cinelerra) that
change (on the fly) utf-8 with iso-8859-15 language settings, also
modify cinelerra.desktop.
The scripts cinelerra.prerm detect ubuntu and remove previously
installed iso-8859-15 and /usr/bin/Cinelerra.

It's all.

Byez
Paolo Rampino aka Akirad




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Re: [CinCVS] Fedora Core 7 FC7 and cinelerra 2.1

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>Aaron,
>Thanks for the reply.  I use Kino to upload and download to dv tape.  Does 
>kino firewire support work okay?
>
>In the past I tried to compile cinelerra but ran into too many problems with 
>dependineces.  Can you reply with a list of steps you took to successfully 
>compile cinelerra on your FC8 (or reference to a webpage)?
>
>I would rather get the latest version of cinelerra instead of the one from 
>freshrpms.
>
>Thanks
>
>Jeff Gerritsen

Jeff,
I recently completed a fresh install of Fedora 7, 64-bit. If you don't mind 
compiling from source, I would think that my instructions for installing the 
dependent programs for building Cinelerra from source on Fedora 7 still hold up 
for F8:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/09/building-cinelerra-on-fc6-64-bit.html
 

scott


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Re: [CinCVS] Fedora Core 7 FC7 and cinelerra 2.1

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Hi Christoph,
I also just completed a fresh install of Fedora 7, 64-bit (for some reason, 
they dropped the Core).  It went well, outside of the fact that the installer 
didn't like three of my DVDs (sha1sum kept giving me different results for each 
3GB download..weird).  My instructions for installing the dependent programs 
for building Cinelerra from source on Fedora Core 6 still hold up for F7:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/03/fedora-core-6-cinelerra-dependencies.html

With slight tweaks for F7, 64-bit
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/09/building-cinelerra-on-fc6-64-bit.html

scott

 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I haven't dug through the archives, but I thought I'd post up my recent
> experience with installing FC7 and cinelerra from freshrpms.
> 
> --
> 
> I managed to get cinelerra 2.1 running on FC7 without too much pain. It's
> a vanilla FC7 install with updates. Then, I added the freshrpms repo and
> installed cinelerra.
> 
> Two problems were resolved by the same fix. One was that drag&drop didn't
> work at all, and the other was simply a X11 ouptut error regarding a
> missing Shape extension. By adjusting the /etc/X11/xorg.conf modules
> section as follows, everything appears to be working! Enjoy
> 
> Section "Module"
> Load "glx"
> Load "dri"
> Load "extmod"
> EndSection
> 
> -christoph
> 
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Re: [Fwd: Re: [CinCVS] Missing motion and gamma plugins?]

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Malcolm,
Related to this, are you saying that you got Cinelerra to compile with OpenGL 
enabled under ATI drivers 8.38.x and 8.39.4?

scott

 -- Original message --
From: Bob van Loosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Malcolm Starkey wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas about this problem?
> >
> > I have the same problem on both an x86_64 desktop and a x86 laptop, 
> > running Fedora 7.
> >
> > It worked fine on the laptop when I had Fedora Core 6, but when I 
> > updated to Fedora 7 the problem arose.
> >
> > It doesn't seem to be a driver problem since the plug ins worked on 
> > FC6 using ATI 8.38 and 8.39 driver, and don't work on F7 using same 
> > 8.39 driver.
> >
> > I tried posting to Fedora forums too, but no one was able to help.
> >
> > What is going on?
> >
> > thanks
> > Malcolm
> >
> >  Forwarded Message 
> > *From*: Malcolm Starkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > *To*: cinelerra@skolelinux.no <mailto:cinelerra@skolelinux.no>
> > *Subject*: Re: [CinCVS] Missing motion and gamma plugins?
> > *Date*: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 17:20:49 +0100
> >
> >
> > Here you go:
> >
> >
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 278canon]$ cinelerra
> >> Cinelerra 2.1CV (C) 2006 Heroine Virtual Ltd.
> >> Compiled on Thu May 31 03:28:35 EDT 2007
> >>
> >> Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
> >> and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> >> certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/brightness.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUseProgram
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/chromakey.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUseProgram
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/chromakeyhsv.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUseProgram
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/colorbalance.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUniform2f
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/diffkey.so: undefined 
> >> symbol: 
> glUseProgram
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/framefield.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUseProgram
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/gamma.so: undefined 
> >> symbol: 
> glUniform2f
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/gradient.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUseProgram
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/histogram.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUniform2f
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/huesaturation.so: 
> >> undefined 
> symbol: glUseProgram
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/interpolate.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUniform2f
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/invertvideo.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUseProgram
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/motion.so: undefined 
> >> symbol: 
> glUniform2f
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/overlay.so: undefined 
> >> symbol: 
> glUniform2f
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/perspective.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUniform2f
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/radialblur.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUniform2f
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/rgb601.so: undefined 
> >> symbol: 
> glUseProgram
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/rotate.so: undefined 
> >> symbol: 
> glUniform2f
> >> PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/threshold.so: undefined 
> symbol: glUseProgram
> >> 
> >
> > Could this be a graphics card issue? I'm using an ATI1600 with the 8.39 
> > fglrx 
> driver.
> >
> > thanks
> > M.
> >   
> Try compiling with opengl disabled, by using "./configure --disable-opengl".
> 
> Bob.


--- Begin Message ---




Malcolm Starkey wrote:

  
  
  
Hello,
  
Does anyone have any ideas about this problem? 
  
I have the same problem on both an x86_64 desktop and a x86 laptop,
running Fedora 7.
  
It worked fine on the laptop when I had Fedora Core 6, but when I
updated to Fedora 7 the problem arose.
  
It doesn't seem to be a driver problem since the plug ins worked on FC6
using ATI 8.38 and 8.39 driver, and don't work on F7 using same 8.39
driver.
  
I tried posting to Fedora forums too, but no one was able to help.
  
What is going on?
  
thanks
Malcolm
  

Re: [CinCVS] tv recordings in .m2t format

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Georg,
Indeed I did.  A month-long, bloody nightmare last year.  Since I bought a new 
mulicore server, I've got a new one to replace that nightmare:  figuring out 
which Linux programs take advantage of multiple cores/cpus.
:)
scott
 -- Original message --
From: Kurt Georg Hooss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Thanks.
> Had no time yet to try it out but will need to do so soon.
> Looks like you did some serious work on all these options... hats off! :-)
> Cheers, Georg
> 
> 
> On Sunday, 7. October 2007 02:16'', Scott C. Frase wrote:
> > Kurt George,
> > Here's one method that has worked for me:
> > http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2006/10/rendering-cam-compatible-
> >hdv-mpegts.html
> >
> > scott
> >
> > On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 00:26 +0200, Kurt Georg Hooss wrote:
> > > kaffeine / xine stores tv recordings in .m2t format
> > > which can be loaded into cinelerra.
> > >
> > > can cinelerra also render into this format?
> > > or otherwise, how can i cut out parts of interest
> > > with as little quality loss as possible?
> >
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> -- 
> 
> dr.k.g.hooss
> wissenschaftliche medienberatung
> tel. +49-(0)451-3003-474
> www.schoepfung-und-wandel.de
> 
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Re: [CinCVS] Fixing sound synchronization problems

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 -- Original message --
From: JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  My knowledge about video editing things is rather shallow, and my
> experience with Cinelerra quite basic, so please bear with me if this
> is a stupid question.
> 
>  I have some AVI files that were created when uploading camcorder
> footage to my computer. The problem is, the soundtrack is out of sync
> with the image by three or four seconds. Is this the kind of thing
> that Cinelerra can fix? If it is, could any kind soul please explain
> how? Thanks.
> 
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JCA,
Try using the nudge parameter.  From the manual:
http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/cinelerra_cv_manual_en.html#SEC109

and real life application:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/05/nudge-avidemux2-and-reminder-about.html

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[CinCVS] software(s) to capture onscreen activity

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Hey folks,
What software are people using to capture screen activity (ie, starting 
programs, opening windows, etc in Gnome)?  I'm interested in integrating 
captures of web browser activity into a Cinelerra project and wondered what 
programs people found best to do this.  My window environment is Gnome.

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Re: [CinCVS] File formats for windows media player

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Alan,
I created a compatibility list on my Beginner's Guide here that may be helpful:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/06/beginners-guide-to-exporting-video-from.html

It has a listing of render formats and OS versions/media player compatibility.
scott
 -- Original message --
From: Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I wrote a post like this morning but for some reason it appears to have 
> got lost apologies if it appears shortly twice.
> 
> 
> I have made a video with cinelerra and would like to generate a format 
> that will be not too large and playable with windows media player.  I 
> am running on linux.
> 
> I tried the instructions in 19.7.1 of the manual to create an avi file 
> (other than scale the output and slightly increase the bit rate to 
> compensate,  which plays fine in linux, but when I load it into Windows 
> it only sees the audio and plays it like it was an audio file.  
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> -- 
> Alan Chandler
> http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk
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Re: [CinCVS] Re: A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV

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Terje,
I tested the Quicktime for Linux format fairly extensively.  The below 
spreadsheet compares the compatibility of different audio/video codecs in the 
Quicktime for Linux container format:
http://content.serveftp.net/video/qtcompatibility.ods.html

In that doc, I show compatibility for a project in DV format and a project in 
HDV format.  The doc is pretty wide, so it helps to view it across two 
monitors.  If need be, the Open Office version is here:
http://content.serveftp.net/video/qtcompatibility.ods

scott

 -- Original message --
From: "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> No response on this topic so far. Therefore I try again with two
> follow-up questions:
> 
> 1) Is Cinelerra capable to preserve mpeg2 with 4:2:2 color space
> throughout the editing process?
> 
> 2) Which types of video/audio formats can be edited with Cinelerra?
> (a list of all)
> 
> Rgds,
> Terje
> 
> 
> 
> I'm in touch with a fabricator planning an Anolog to MPEG-2/1394 unit
> supporting also Linux. I've suggested to also include a HDMI IN on this
> unit, making it even more useable.
> When Sony V1/FX7 is operating, the EIP generates uncompressed 1440x1080i
> with a color 4:2:2 color space. Digital 4:2:2 data are output via HDMI
> port while 4:2:2 analog is output via component out.
> 
> Therefore I've suggested for this fabricator which isn't limited to
> 25Mbps datarate on DV tapes (DV25 or 1080i HDV) to preferably also make
> use of a higher bitrate over 1394 and a better MPEG-2 encoding.
> 
> HDV applies the [EMAIL PROTECTED] profile, 1440x1080 or 1280x720 resolution, 
> 4:2:0
> color sampling and 25Mbps (out of max 60 Mbps defined) bitrate.
> 
> 1) The better MPEG-2 profile for possibly HDMI IN I think of is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], the same 1440x1080 or 1280x720 resolution, and better 4:2:2
> color sampling.  Here is also Sony's XDCAM HD 4:2:2 with datarate 50
> Mbps (out of max 80 Mbps defined).
> 
> 2) A better MPEG-2 profile for Analog IN I think of is [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
> 720x480 or 720x576 resolution at 30fps/25fps, 4:2:2 color sampling at up
> to 50Mbps (i.e Sony IMX using I-frame only)
> 
> Can Cinelerra use the MPEG-2 formats 1) and 2) above?
> Which formats does Cinelerra really support?
> 
> Other viewpoints and suggestions?
> 
> Rgds,
> Terje
> 
> 
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Re: [CinCVS] rotate video effect

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Nicolas,
Sweet!  That worked!  Thanks a lot!  I will forward you my final version, once 
it is cleaned up.
scott
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> Scott,
> 
> You have to edit the keyframes of the SAME rotate effect. For example,
> after having selected the auto keyframe mode :
> - set a rotate angle of 0 degree at the beginning of the rotate effect
> - go at the end of the same rotate effect, and set a rotation angle of
>   180 degrees.
> 
> I haven't checked that by myself, but that should work if the rotation
> effect supports keyframes.
> 
> Nicolas.
> 
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Re: [CinCVS] rotate video effect

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Guys,
I've experimented with the rotate effect on a transparent image.  Though I've 
read the section on keyframing a couple of times now, I must be doing something 
wrong, because the interpolation between the two rotate effects that I have 
applied to the video track is not happening.  I especially read the part where 
it says: "Effects are only key-framable in automatic mode because of the number 
of parameters in each individual effect"

Here is what I am doing:
1) the transparent gif is stretched to 120 frames on a video track
2) I apply a rotate effect on the first five frames of the track
3) I apply a rotate effect on the last five frames of the track
4) I turn on automatic keyframing by selecting the key icon on the command bar 
of the timeline
5) I set the rotate parameter on the first applied rotate effect  to 0 degrees
6) I set the rotate parameter on the second applied rotate effect to 180 degrees
7) I hit play to watch
8) I then render out the final to confirm what I am seeing.  And what I am 
seeing is that the interpolation does not happen and the image rotates only 
when the insertion point hits the second rotate effect.

Here is what my timeline looks like:
http://content.serveftp.net/video/rotateapart.png
Here is a sample of the rotate param tweak:
http://content.serveftp.net/video/rotateparam.png

I've also tried applying the first rotate effects to the first and last halves 
of the video so that they are adjacent to each other 
(http://content.serveftp.net/video/rotatetogether.png)

I then turn on auto keyframing and make my param changes as before.  
Unfortunately, this yields the same result.

Hopefully, someone with more experience with auto keyframing with effects can 
help me out.

thanks,
scott


 -- Original message ------
From: Andraž Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> i really tried to be as polite as possible :)
> 
> anyway, have fun with new discoveries :)
> 
> bye
> andraz
> 
> On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 15:59 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Ayyy!  Take it easy on me Andraz!  
> > 
> > Sorry, I thought keyframes only applied to the projector/camera automation.
> > :)
> > scott
> >  -- Original message --
> > From: Andraž Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > You know what keyframes are?
> > > 
> > > just turn on automatic keyframing and set the angle at the beginning and
> > > at end. everything inbetween should be interpolated.
> > > 
> > > ... i strongly suggest that you read the fine manual, since you
> > > obviously haven't.
> > > 
> > > bye
> > > andraz
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 15:26 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Guys,
> > > > I have transparent graphic of a compass that I would like to overlay on 
> > > > a 
> > > video.  I would like to smoothly rotate this graphic either continuously 
> (loop) 
> > > or using a set rotation arc (like 0 to 180 degrees).  The existing rotate 
> effect 
> > > in Cinelerra is very basic..it does a rotate of a set or custom degree 
> > > arc 
> > > incrementally, one rotation at a time.  
> > > > 
> > > > As a test, I created a project with a transparent image (png file) 
> stretched 
> > > to 60 frames.  I set a rotate effect every five frames with a degree 
> > > change 
> of 5 
> > > degrees each.  So the image would rotate 5 degrees every 5 seconds..5, 
> > > 10, 
> 15, 
> > > 20 degrees up to 60 degrees.  It worked, but the output was choppy and 
> > > the 
> > > procedure is obviously very labor intensive for what should be a somewhat 
> simple 
> > > task.
> > > > 
> > > > I also tried the motion effect, trying to do the reverse of rotation 
> > > correction.  However, the motion effect is difficult to work with and I 
> haven't 
> > > had enough time to fully test this method.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there an easier way to accomplish what I want?  Or perhaps I am just 
> not 
> > > seeing something simple.  Again, the goal is to rotate a graphic or video 
> > > smoothly, just like we do today with camera/projector automation of X, Y 
> > > and 
> Z 
> > > coordinates.  If rotation was implemented in the same manner, we could 
> > > also 
> > > using keyframes and bezier curves to do rotations.
> > > > 
> > > > scott
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Re: [CinCVS] rotate video effect

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Ayyy!  Take it easy on me Andraz!  

Sorry, I thought keyframes only applied to the projector/camera automation.
:)
scott
 -- Original message --
From: Andraž Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> You know what keyframes are?
> 
> just turn on automatic keyframing and set the angle at the beginning and
> at end. everything inbetween should be interpolated.
> 
> ... i strongly suggest that you read the fine manual, since you
> obviously haven't.
> 
> bye
> andraz
> 
> On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 15:26 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Guys,
> > I have transparent graphic of a compass that I would like to overlay on a 
> video.  I would like to smoothly rotate this graphic either continuously 
> (loop) 
> or using a set rotation arc (like 0 to 180 degrees).  The existing rotate 
> effect 
> in Cinelerra is very basic..it does a rotate of a set or custom degree arc 
> incrementally, one rotation at a time.  
> > 
> > As a test, I created a project with a transparent image (png file) 
> > stretched 
> to 60 frames.  I set a rotate effect every five frames with a degree change 
> of 5 
> degrees each.  So the image would rotate 5 degrees every 5 seconds..5, 10, 
> 15, 
> 20 degrees up to 60 degrees.  It worked, but the output was choppy and the 
> procedure is obviously very labor intensive for what should be a somewhat 
> simple 
> task.
> > 
> > I also tried the motion effect, trying to do the reverse of rotation 
> correction.  However, the motion effect is difficult to work with and I 
> haven't 
> had enough time to fully test this method.
> > 
> > Is there an easier way to accomplish what I want?  Or perhaps I am just not 
> seeing something simple.  Again, the goal is to rotate a graphic or video 
> smoothly, just like we do today with camera/projector automation of X, Y and 
> Z 
> coordinates.  If rotation was implemented in the same manner, we could also 
> using keyframes and bezier curves to do rotations.
> > 
> > scott
> > 
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[CinCVS] rotate video effect

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Guys,
I have transparent graphic of a compass that I would like to overlay on a 
video.  I would like to smoothly rotate this graphic either continuously (loop) 
or using a set rotation arc (like 0 to 180 degrees).  The existing rotate 
effect in Cinelerra is very basic..it does a rotate of a set or custom degree 
arc incrementally, one rotation at a time.  

As a test, I created a project with a transparent image (png file) stretched to 
60 frames.  I set a rotate effect every five frames with a degree change of 5 
degrees each.  So the image would rotate 5 degrees every 5 seconds..5, 10, 15, 
20 degrees up to 60 degrees.  It worked, but the output was choppy and the 
procedure is obviously very labor intensive for what should be a somewhat 
simple task.

I also tried the motion effect, trying to do the reverse of rotation 
correction.  However, the motion effect is difficult to work with and I haven't 
had enough time to fully test this method.

Is there an easier way to accomplish what I want?  Or perhaps I am just not 
seeing something simple.  Again, the goal is to rotate a graphic or video 
smoothly, just like we do today with camera/projector automation of X, Y and Z 
coordinates.  If rotation was implemented in the same manner, we could also 
using keyframes and bezier curves to do rotations.

scott

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[CinCVS] Fedora Core 6 dependencies for Cinelerra

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In case anyone needs a list of dependencies and install instructions for Core 
6, I've prepared them here:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/03/fedora-core-6-cinelerra-dependencies.html

enjoy,
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Re: [CinCVS] mpeg decoding leak & crush

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Andraz,
No, I am not experiencing a lot of swapping, so that's good.  I just needed a 
little further explanation on what I was seeing.

thanks,
scott
 -- Original message --
From: Andraž Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> As long as VIRT memory size does not go constantly up during some
> speical kind of use of cinelerra, there is no leak.
> 
> slowly different caches will get filled in cinelerra during different
> uses, which will mean that memory consumption should go up, but not
> constantly and it should top at some number. 
> 
> if it does not top, then there is a leak. as long as you are not
> experiencing extreme swapping due to memory exhaustion, why are you
> bothered at all?
> 
> bye
> andraz
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 22:27 -0500, Scott C. Frase wrote:
> > Hannes,
> > After a fresh reboot, I started Cinelerra and the system was using 500MB
> > memory at that time.  I then performed some operations within Cinelerra
> > including rendering which used up to 1367MB of memory.  I then exited
> > Cinelerra and the system memory usage was 1139MB.  During the
> > experiment, I used no other programs..no browser, no mail, nothing.
> > Just Cinelerra and Gnome window manager.  
> > 
> > So you are saying then is that the extra 639MB of memory was used by
> > system resources that we triggered by Cinelerra and that the 639MB is
> > not indicative of any memory leak within Cinelerra, correct?
> > 
> > scott
> > 
> > without using any other programs (other than rendering using Cinelerra
> > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 21:25 +0100, Johannes Sixt wrote:
> > > On Friday 09 February 2007 22:42, Scott C. Frase wrote:
> > > > apply histogram and play 30s   1367MB
> > > > quit cinelerra 1139MB
> > > 
> > > That's good news. It means that cinelerra used only ~230MB. Everything 
> > > else 
> > > must be other applications or cached file data.
> > > 
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Re: [CinCVS] mpeg decoding leak & crush

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Andraz,
As I have been suffering from the consequences of mpeg decoding leak, I am very 
excited to test this when I get home this afternoon.  Thanks!

One question: what is a crush?
scott
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From: Andraž Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This is a fix for obvious leak when reopening mpeg from index files. 
> 
> Previous fd was not released in all cases. Now it is. 
> 
> This leak also caused crushes due to memory exaustion and creating extreme 
> number of waiting threads eventually... The way it crushed is not completely 
> obvious to me, but now the crush is gone.
> 
> Opening mpeg files that have index is still awfully inefficient, since every 
> file that already has TOC created is opened twice - first time just to read 
> the 
> number of video streams present. This could be done better...
> 
> bye
> andraz
> 


--- Begin Message ---
diff -ru --exclude-from exclude hvirtual-svn/cinelerra/filempeg.C hvirtual-2.1/cinelerra/filempeg.C
--- hvirtual-svn/cinelerra/filempeg.C	2006-10-12 23:17:43.0 +0200
+++ hvirtual-2.1/cinelerra/filempeg.C	2007-02-09 13:26:29.0 +0100
@@ -523,13 +523,16 @@
 
 	sprintf(ptr, ".toc");
 
-	int need_toc = 1;
+	mpeg3_t *fd_toc;
 
-// Test existing copy of TOC
-	if((fd = mpeg3_open(index_filename, &error)))
-		need_toc = 0;
 
-	if(need_toc)
+// Test existing copy of TOC
+	mpeg3_close(fd); // Always free old fd
+	if((fd_toc = mpeg3_open(index_filename, &error)))
+	{
+// Just exchange old fd 
+		fd = fd_toc;
+	} else
 	{
 // Create progress window.
 // This gets around the fact that MWindowGUI is locked.
@@ -596,26 +599,10 @@
 			remove(index_filename);
 			return 1;
 		}
-		else
-// Fix date to date of source if success
-		{
-		}
-
-		if(fd) mpeg3_close(fd);
-		fd = 0;
-	}
-
-
 
 // Reopen file from index path instead of asset path.
-	if(!fd)
-	{
 		if(!(fd = mpeg3_open(index_filename, &error)))
-		{
 			return 1;
-		}
-		else
-			return 0;
 	}
 
 	return 0;
--- End Message ---

Re: [CinCVS] constant hangs on HDV project]

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Andraz,
Thanks for the advice.  Those tasks are a little above my skill level, but I 
will do some research and give it a shot.
scott
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From: "Scott C. Frase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [CinCVS] constant hangs on HDV project]
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:30:43 +
> 


--- Begin Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
i suspect there is some kind of a race where circular reference is
created in cachebase.C

and in function get_oldest it runs around till some other thread does
something to the structure...

i'd put a simple loop catching algorithm there and see if it catches an
'endless' loop

bye
andraz

On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 20:28 -0500, Scott C. Frase wrote:
> Hannes,
> Well, this was instructive.  I was grabbing and moving the wav file
> around quite a bit, perhaps 10 times.  I replicated the hang.  In order
> to find the hanging thread, I started gdb ("gdb cinelerra 5647").  I
> found the offending thread:
> 
> Thread 65 (Thread -1520473168 (LWP 5674)):
> #0  0x0813fceb in CacheBase::get_oldest (this=0x8c04068) at
> cachebase.C:106
> #1  0x081f00bb in MWindow::age_caches (this=0xbfc5a288) at
> mwindow.C:1569
> #2  0x081f5e7b in MWindow::move_edits (this=0xbfc5a288, edits=0x8539b70,
> track=0x920f238, position=49.7249583, behaviour=1) at
> mwindowedit.C:830
> #3  0x08289ed6 in TrackCanvas::drag_stop (this=0xa9e1e7e0) at
> trackcanvas.C:575
> #4  0x0828a13d in TrackCanvas::drag_stop_event (this=0xa9e1e7e0) at
> trackcanvas.C:325
> #5  0xb7b73029 in BC_WindowBase::dispatch_drag_stop (this=0xa9e1e7e0) at
> bcwindowbase.C:1316
> #6  0xb7b7300e in BC_WindowBase::dispatch_drag_stop (this=0x8c44da0) at
> bcwindowbase.C:1311
> #7  0xb7b73122 in BC_WindowBase::dispatch_button_release
> (this=0x8c44da0) at bcwindowbase.C:1162
> #8  0xb7b778b1 in BC_WindowBase::dispatch_event (this=0x8c44da0) at
> bcwindowbase.C:787
> #9  0xb7b78739 in BC_WindowBase::run_window (this=0x8c44da0) at
> bcwindowbase.C:614
> #10 0xb7b88bb8 in Thread::entrypoint (parameters=0xbfc5a288) at
> thread.C:48
> #11 0x00da0b80 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> #12 0x00c11dee in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
> 
> I then exited gdb and found that the process hang was still occurring.
> So I started up kdbg ("kdbg -p 5647 /usr/local/bin/cinelerra") and
> selected "View -> Threads".  I then used an alternating combination of
> F8 and F10 to step in and out of the code.  I found that kdbg hung at
> this line of code:  MWindow.C:1561.  It took a while, maybe five minutes
> for kdbg to free up.  After the release, I continued for a bit, stepping
> in and out of the code, but since kdbg did exactly what you said it
> would do, I gave up and thought to report my results back to you.
> 
> This is the snippet of hvirtual/cinelerra/mwindow.C code starting at
> line 1561:
> 
>  if(memory_usage > preferences->cache_size)
> {
> int target = 1;
> int oldest1 = audio_cache->get_oldest();
> int oldest2 = video_cache->get_oldest();
> if(oldest2 < oldest1) target = 2;
> int oldest3 = frame_cache->get_oldest();
> if(oldest3 < oldest1 && oldest3 < oldest2)
> target = 3;
> int oldest4 = wave_cache->get_oldest();
> if(oldest4 < oldest3 && oldest4 < oldest2 &&
> oldest4 < oldest1) target = 4;
> switch(target)
> {
> case 1: audio_cache->delete_oldest();
> break;
> case 2: video_cache->delete_oldest();
> break;
> case 3: frame_cache->delete_oldest();
> break;
> case 4: wave_cache->delete_oldest();
> break;
> }
> }
> 
> 
> I'm no big C programmer, but inferring from the if statement, it looks
> like I only go into this control structure if cin's memory usage is
> greater than the value stated in Preferences -> Cache Size.  I have it
> set to the default value of 10MB.
> 
> Is this a code bug or do I just need to set the Cache Size to something
> larger than 10MB?
> 
> Did I do good?
> scott
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 21:06 +0100, Johannes Sixt wrote:
> > On Tuesday 06 February 2007 02:29, Scott C. Frase wrote:
> > > Thread 10 (Thread 2047089584 (LWP 6752)):
> > > #0  0x082a634c in WaveCacheItem::get_size (this=0x981d220) at
> > > wa

Re: [CinCVS] Re: audio sync problem on rendered output, but not when viewing in compositor]

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Jonathan,
Thank you for taking the time to write out a detailed response.  My responses 
are below.
scott

>>I'll have to take your word for it; the waveforms as presented are rather
>>difficult to use to verify sync.  
The drummer's snare hit should be clear enough to see.

>>Hmm, I assume you mean 48 kHz.
Sorry..too long working with CDs (44.1kHz)

>>One question before we start.  Was your multitrack and camera synced to the
>>same clock during the recording session (be it word clock, smtpe etc)?  
No.

>>the end.  The only way to resolve this with unlocked sources is to 
>>resample the audio from the multitrack in such a way that you correct for
>>the subtle clock differences of the gear used.
Wouldn't this difference show up in Cinelerra?

>>  http://www.physics.adelaide.edu.au/~jwoithe/audiosync-0.4.tgz
I will try your program out..definetly.  Thank you for the detailed explanation!

>>As far as the software you need to work out the sample number of these
>>events I use audacity.  
That is a good idea..I will load up both audio files and see about syncing them 
there.

>>This seems rather strange.  If there's a sync problem you should hear it in
>>cinelerra unless for some odd reason the tracks aren't always being mixed. 
>>I must admit that I do *all* my audio mixing in ardour (I export the camera
>>audio to WAV, import that to ardour and then sync off that), so have no
>>experience doing multitrack audio mixes in cinelerra.
Strange indeed..I would think we should hear it in Cin as well.

 sync.mov: Xine shows sync problems, mplayer no problems
 sync.mpg: Xine shows no sync problems, mplayer shows problems

>>That sounds bizarre.  While you can get sync problems in certain situations
>>with different AV container formats this would cause the entire audio track
>>to drift out of sync.  As I understand it from your opening statements,
>>"sync problem" here refers to an audible echo indicating one source track
>>being out of sync with the other.
I should clarify that when I say sync, I mean the synchronization between the 
audio from the multitrack recording to the video.  In my case, the sync looks 
good in Cinelerra, but not in the rendered output.

I will let you know how I fare after work tonight.
scott

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> I'm having a problem with the audio sync on a rendered video.  This is a
> video of a rock band playing.  I have used the original audio from the
> cam (720P HDV, MPEGTS, 48.1khz audio) to sync up a multi-track recording
> of the same session (WAV, 48.1khz audio).  When reviewing the audio
> waveform in Cinelerra, the new and old audio tracks align perfectly:
> http://content.serveftp.net/video/sync_audioalignment.png

I'll have to take your word for it; the waveforms as presented are rather
difficult to use to verify sync.  The other thing to note that at least at
the scale in the above screen grab, two tracks can *look* in sync but
be far enough out to make the sync mismatch audible.

Hmm, I assume you mean 48 kHz.

One question before we start.  Was your multitrack and camera synced to the
same clock during the recording session (be it word clock, smtpe etc)?  If
not, the reality is that the sampling of your multitrack and that of
the camera audio will differ slightly.  The difference might not be large,
but even over 4 minutes I would expect a detectable sync problem towards
the end.  The only way to resolve this with unlocked sources is to 
resample the audio from the multitrack in such a way that you correct for
the subtle clock differences of the gear used.

I routinely do this kind of thing and wrote a program to do this resampling.
You can check it out at

  http://www.physics.adelaide.edu.au/~jwoithe/audiosync-0.4.tgz

It's quick and dirty but does the job for me.  In the context of your
job you would pick to points in the recordings which are easily identifiable
in both waveforms - preferably at the start and end of the audio.  You then
work out the exact sample number that this event corresponds to.  While this
can be easy for direct audio (from the multitrack in your case) room reverb
can make picking events difficult in the camera audio (unless you piped
the direct sound into the camera as well).  Usually I pick things like the
snare hits, for obvious reasons.  These sample numbers are then used by
audiosync to resample the multitrack recordings so those events line up
exactly.  So long as you've chosen accurate samples you will end up with
very good sync over the long term (for example, using this method I
often achieve synchronisation to within 10 samples over a period of 90
minutes).

As far as the software you need to work out the sample number of these
events I use audacity.  I set it to work directly with the audio files since
it loads the files much quicker (although with only 4 minutes of audio
you are unlikely to have problems either way).  You can set the location
display to be in samples using an item about half-way down 

Re: [CinCVS] getting started - can't play edited clip - regular clip play stops working

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If Heroine themselves added that piece of UI, then we are truly doomed to ive 
with it forever!
;)
scott
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From: Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 14:53 +0100, Richard Rasker wrote:
> 
> > There's a checkbox Stop playback lock up in the Playback Preferences
> > when ALSA is selected; checking this option should prevent the lock-up
> > you describe (although I'd have to go and dig around for a more detailed
> > explanation - especially *why* this happens).
> 
>  I think the existance of such a setting (why would you _not_ want to
> prevent ALSA from locking up?!) suggests that nobody really knows why
> this happens.
> 
>  Or am I wrong?  If anyone is in the know, could we please sort out
> a universal solution that will satisfy all users, out of the box?
> 
> -- 
>  Herman Robak
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Re: [CinCVS] constant hangs on HDV project

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Hi Kevin,
Thanks for the response.  The HDV files I'm working with are composed of the 
following:

MPEGTS (transport stream) container
-MPEG2 video: 1280x720, 29.97fps, 18300br
-MPEG audio layer 2: 48.1khz, 2 ch, s16le, 384kbit

In addition, I have two tracks (stereo pair) of wav files sampled at 
16bit/48.1khz.  I initially said four tracks of video, but I have recreated the 
project with two extra audio tracks only (as I will explain below).

Here is a little more about the purpose of the project:
The project is a video of a rock band.  The original audio track quality was 
poor, so I am substituting the stereo audio output from a multi-track recording 
of the gig.  So all I am doing is syncing up a second source of audio to the 
original track.  Simple, no?

I worked on the original project file a little more last night.  I noticed the 
output of the command window was saying "File too large", so I re-rendered only 
a portion of the original MPEGTS using AVIDemux (great program, by the 
way..really fast).  My source MPEGTS file shrank from 7GB to 2.7GB.  However, 
2.7GB is still larger than the magical 2GB mark.  I am not sure why I should be 
getting that message as the standard Cinelerra compiler flags are set for 
largefile sizes.  I reviewed the message board regarding the latest messages 
about "File too large", but there is no definitive answer on the source of 
these messages.  But the fact that the file is greater than 2GB is probably why 
I am getting "File too large".

I recreated the project, and now there is less hanging, but the hanging still 
happens when I zoom in to sub-second time frames and move the wav tracks ever 
so slightly to better align with the audio track from the original video.  This 
happens every other time that I move the tracks.

Regarding swap, I will check this when I get home from work tonight.

scott

> I suspect 2G is not "a lot of memory" when HDV is used.
> 
> Scott,  would you include what codecs are being used in your project for
> input material?  That determines loading and playing memory behavior.
> 
> Without any swap, it will be impossible to tell if you really needed swap or
> not.  (ie.  You can't tell if your project would run faster without swap,
> because you can't check if it was never used.)  You're long pauses suggest
> there may be a memory issue though.  The advice to try 4G of swap would help
> to rule out memory exhaustion as the issue.  (You can use swapon and swapoff
> to test.)
> 
> Kevin
> 


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On 2007-02-05 07:39, Nicolas Maufrais wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 06:28:31PM +1100, jostle wrote:
> > Your 'top' output reveals a pretty significant problem. You are running 
> > with no swap space!
> > 
> > > Swap:    0k total,    0k used,    0k free,  1298492k cached
> > 
> > I suggest that you re-configure your machine to have around 4GB of swap 
> > and see if that helps.
> 
> Heroine Virtual Ltd recommends disabling swap when a lot of memory is
> installed.
> 


I suspect 2G is not "a lot of memory" when HDV is used.


Scott,  would you include what codecs are being used in your project for input material?  That determines loading and playing memory behavior.

Without any swap, it will be impossible to tell if you really needed swap or not.  (ie.  You can't tell if your project would run faster without swap, because you can't check if it was never used.)  You're long pauses suggest there may be a memory issue though.  The advice to try 4G of swap would help to rule out memory exhaustion as the issue.  (You can use swapon and swapoff to test.)

Kevin



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HDV articles (was: [CinCVS] HDV to DVD (interlaced and PAL))

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Terje,
I remember you asking about HDV documentation last week.  I had posted this 
list of HDV resources a while back, but maybe you'd find these links 
interesting, if not helpful:

General 
http://www.hdvinfo.net/ 

HDV resources from the above site: 
http://hdvinfo.com/resources/index.php 

Understanding HD formats (micro$oft..sh!!) 
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/howto/articles/UnderstandingHDFormats.aspx
 

This article was a very good intro, but now its 404: 
http://www.gyhduser.com/article.php?filename=What-is-HDV- 

Good article about data rates and GOP info: 
Shoot Review - JVC JY-HD10 (Aug 1, 2003) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/cameras/revfeat/video_jvc_jyhd/index.html 

How To Edit HDV (Sep 1, 2003) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/hdhdv/depth/video_edit_hdv/index.html 

HDV Sweet Spot (Sep 1, 2004) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/videoencodvd/revfeat/video_hdv_sweet_spot/index.html
 

HDV in the Real World (July 1, 2005) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/hdhdv/depth/video_hdv_real_world/index.html 

A few other HDV articles 

HDV in India (Mar 1, 2004) (more tech info at bottom of article) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/hdhdv/depth/video_hdv_india/index.html 

HD to DVD (Apr 1, 2005) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/hdhdv/depth/video_hd_dvd/index.html 

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/article_rev.jsp?model_id=MDL101394&feature_id=09
 

scott

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From: "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 Dan Streetman wrote:
> 
> 
> > Ick, it's the 4:2:0 chroma sampling, I believe.  Why oh why doesn't
> > HDV use 4:1:1 or 4:2:2?  
> >   
> 
> Without being any expert on this, my understanding is that
> 
> 4:1:1
> color sampling as used in NTSC DV25, is considered to be a bad format to
> transcode to MPEG-2 for DVD video disks, which do use 4:2:0. This
> misalignment of color samples results in a final 4:1:0 color space or
> only 12,5 percent of the original chroma information (this problem
> doesn't exist in PAL DV25 which itself also applies 4:2:0 color
> sampling) according to:
> http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/#dv25
> 
> 4:2:0
> sampling format and 8 bit quantization used for HDV in general, does for
> HDV 1080i or MPEG-2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] occopy the maximum 25 Mbit/s bitrate to 
> be
> recorded on miniDV tapes .
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV#Specifications
> http://www.expandore.com/product/Sony/Proav/model/HDV/QNA.htm#HDV%20Specificatio
> ns
> 
> 4:2:2
> as used in MPEG-2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is "bitrated" at 80 Mbit/s ans is (was)
> examplified for "potential future MPEG-2 based HD products from Sony and
> Panasonic".
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-2#Profiles_and_Levels
> 
> 
> And at the same time two questions I myself have been wondering about
> looking in the last table:
> 
> Q1)
> Maybe someone here can explain what makes the difference between HDV
> 1080i at 25 Mbit/s and its MPEG-2 profile [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is tabeled 
> to
> use 60 Mbit/s below
> 
> Q2)
> And at the same time as I myself have been searching for a better
> Analog->Digital video converter than just DV25/1394 with the limited
> bitrate and color space 4.1:1:
> Shouldn't a converter using the MPEG-2 profile [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 
> 720x576(480)
> resolution, 4:2:2 color space and bitrate >= 25 Mbit/s over 1394 have
> the potential for a better result than DV25?
> 
> 
> Terje J. Hanssen
> 
> 
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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra tutorials

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Hi Nicolas,
You probably have these listed already, but I will resend anyway:
Beginner's Guide to Exporting Video from Cinelerra
   http://content.serveftp.net/video/renderTest/guideToCinExport.html
Quicktime Compatibility Chart (in HTML/Open Office formats)
   http://content.serveftp.net/video/qtcompatibility.ods.html
   http://content.serveftp.net/video/qtcompatibility.ods

scott

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From: Nicolas Maufrais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 02:31:46AM -0200, rafael2k wrote:
> > all of then in portuguese:
> > 
> > me (starting):
> > https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/Cinelerra
> > 
> > and leo:
> > http://www.estudiolivre.org/tiki-index.php?page=Cinelerra
> > 
> > bye,
> > rafael diniz
> 
> 
> Thanks, Rafael!
> 
> Nicolas.
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Re: [CinCVS] free media content

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Muzzol,
For non-commercial use, you can search the movie collections over at 
http://www.archive.org.
scott

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From: muzzol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> hi!
> 
> do you know any site that offers free high quality media?
> 
> im planning a project with historical references and i would find free
> content to use.
> 
> regards,
> 
> muzzol
> 
> -- 
> 
>  ^ ^
>  O O
> (_ _)
> muzzol(a)gmail.com
> 
> jabber id: muzzol(a)jabber.dk
> 
> No atribueixis qualitats humanes als ordinadors.
> No els hi agrada.
> 
> "El gobierno español sólo habla con terroristas, homosexuales y
> catalanes, a ver cuando se decide a hablar con gente normal"
> Jiménez Losantos
> 
> 
> bomb terrorism bush aznar teletubbies
> 
> 

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Re: [CinCVS] [WANTED] English native speakers to proof read the manual

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Nicolas,
By the way, what viewer/editor do you use with these texinfo files?
scott
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From: Nicolas Maufrais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Scott C. Frase, Jim Scott, El_jay, Joe Friedrichsen,
> 
> Great! Thank you. I freeze the manual development right now, that'll
> give you enough time to proof read the manual.
> 
> Here are the manual parts:
> --
> 
> Scott C. Frase:
> http://www.europephoto.com/temp/cincv_man_en_ed067_part_1.texi
> 
> Jim Scott:
> http://www.europephoto.com/temp/cincv_man_en_ed067_part_2.texi
> 
> El_jay:
> http://www.europephoto.com/temp/cincv_man_en_ed067_part_3.texi
> 
> Joe Friedrichsen:
> http://www.europephoto.com/temp/cincv_man_en_ed067_part_4.texi
> 
> Thank you!
> Nicolas.
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Re: [CinCVS] editing hdv w/ proxy files

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Hi Rafael,
I have been working with HDV and Cinelerra since the beginning of the year and 
have written down a bunch of experiences in my blog, 
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com.  The blog isn't well organized yet, 
but may provide you some insight into the successes and defeats of working with 
HDV.

As you've noticed, HDV is very resource intensive, so it makes sense that one 
of us should figure out how to script the proxy editing process.

scott
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hi all,
A imc friend got a HDV cammera and wants to produce HDV content (in his G4 
notebook).
Well, as i can see, it's very difficult to directly edit HDV content, so the 
solution of using intermediate files to edit, and then, to render, replace 
the files w/ the HDV quality files appears to be the solution.

Anyone has some scripts to do these conversions?
any howto or guide about HDV editing under linux?

next week i'll post my experiences.

thanx!
rafael diniz



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Re: [CinCVS] [CINELERRA-CV MANUAL] Licensing issues solved

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Hi Mack,
When I first started with Cinelerra, I didn't know much about the many 
audio and video codecs and container (file) formats.  I am still learning 
today.  As I wanted to produce a DVD or video for my iPod, I researched and 
tested different formats output from Cinelerra.  In the end, I mainly use 
ffmpeg or mpeg2enc for my render stream, as those work with a few tweaks.  
Since I spent so much time researching and testing, I figured other people were 
burning many hours doing the same, so I wrote documentation on rendering for 
beginners and the compatibility of Quicktime formats as generated by Cinelerra 
(these are linked on the Twiki):
http://content.serveftp.net/video/renderTest/guideToCinExport.html
http://content.serveftp.net/video/qtcompatibility.ods.html

My goal was to help people get usable content out of Cinelerra.  I did 
not have a compendium explaining common codecs and formats, but I would say 
that something like this would be very helpful for everyone using Cinelerra.  
This is a subject that I've found to be poorly documented and in general, very 
confusing.  As I have some good sources of information in my bookmarks list, 
I'd be willing to help build such a compendium if that is your intent.  
Finally, I am constantly improving my doc and if it is lacking in some way, I'd 
be glad to make improvements for anything that is unclear.

As reference, here are some of the pages out there that helped me get started:
http://www.videolan.org/doc/vls-user-guide/en/ch01.html#id288014
http://www.videohelp.com/
http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/video.html
http://www.fourcc.org

scott

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> > Since we are almost ready to collaborate on the manual, who is
> > interested in contributing to the manual?
> 
> I would be greatly interested in contributing to the manual.  Specifically,
> it may not be cinelerra specific, but a section on rendering common formats
> would be useful.  Though much of the relevant information (encoder
> command-line-fu) would technically be the documentation of each encoder
> used, it relates so closely to any results oriented approach to using
> cinelerra that it seems essential.
> 
> Ideas would be essentially: How to get a universally playable  DVD, iPod
> Movies, etc. out. I'd be willing to contribute to this as I figure out how
> to get these transmissible formats out myself.
> 
> > > BTW, should we use American English, or Great-Britain English in the
> > > manual? What's your opinion?
> >>>Everyone knows that colour is better than color. It is done for one
> >>>pathetic dyslexic president. So I suggest through in stead of thru.
> 
> Thru is not correct in any form except Corp-Speak :) I don't really care
> myself, I'm from the US, but generally likely to write words in either form,
> especially when replying to something written in British English.  Colour
> does look better with a 'u,' I always write that *wrong*.
> 
> Adopting the form of the bulk of contributed documentation seems to be the
> wisest course, IMHO.


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> Since we are almost ready to collaborate on the manual, who is> interested in contributing to the manual?I would be greatly interested in contributing to the manual.  Specifically, it may not be cinelerra specific, but a section on rendering common formats would be useful.  Though much of the relevant information (encoder command-line-fu) would technically be the documentation of each encoder used, it relates so closely to any results oriented approach to using cinelerra that it seems essential.  
Ideas would be essentially: How to get a universally playable  DVD, iPod Movies, etc. out. I'd be willing to contribute to this as I figure out how to get these transmissible formats out myself.
> > BTW, should we use American English, or Great-Britain English in the> > manual? What's your opinion?>>>Everyone knows that colour is better than color. It is done for one>>>pathetic dyslexic president. So I suggest through in stead of thru.
Thru is not correct in any form except Corp-Speak :) I don't really care myself, I'm from the US, but generally likely to write words in either form, especially when replying to something written in British English.  Colour does look better with a 'u,' I always write that *wrong*.  
Adopting the form of the bulk of contributed documentation seems to be the wisest course, IMHO.

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