Re: [CinCV] xml into .avi or .mov

2009-03-03 Thread Thiago Guagliardo Klohn
Rendering as you say I get the following error message:

virtual int File DV::open_file(int, int): Raw DV format does not support 
following audio configuration: 0 channels at sample rate: 48000Hz

But if I render it after ticking both render audio tracks and render video 
tracks it does so. After that I tried to render the Raw DV into both '.avi' 
and '.mov', and it does so, but the quality is just as awful as without 
rendering to Raw DV first.

I read something about having a audio video set into two complements 16bits 
(Pcm) in order to have a video render into '.mov'. I'm not so sure if I'm 
interpreting it right. Would that be the problem here?

Thanks Jose!







--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Jose Legido j...@legido.com wrote:
From: Jose Legido j...@legido.com
Subject: Re: [CinCV] xml into .avi or .mov
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Tuesday, 3 March, 2009, 12:49 AM

Hello!

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Thiago Guagliardo Klohn
thiago_kl...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hey, Matthew -

 It worked as you instructed me, but the out come was a video with images
in
 pink, green and blue colors mainly. How can it be fixed? Is there a name
for
 that kind of erro so that I may research it?  I couldn't find an
option to
 render my '.xml' as '.mov' either - there must be a way to
do it, but I just
 couldn't find it.

How do you render your video?
Try first to render to dv.
File,render (shift +r)
Choose File Format Raw DV and rebder video tracks.



 As a matter of fact, I've been a Linux user for the last 6
 years and I prefer it to Micro$oft, specially because it forces you to
learn
 a lot of new things, but it doesn't seem obvious if you don't know
much
 about computers. Anyway, thanks a lot for your hand!

 Thiago

 --- On Mon, 2/3/09, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca
msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca
 wrote:

 From: msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] xml into .avi or .mov
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Monday, 2 March, 2009, 3:56 PM

 On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Thiago Guagliardo Klohn wrote:
 I'd like to know if it's possible to take a '.xml'
video
 that I have edited and save it in '.avi' or '.mov'
simply
 by using
 the key save as. I have Cinelerra manual and there it

 Save as allows you to choose the *name* of the file and only
the
 name.
 It will always be an XML file.  If you save it as .avi, it'll be an
XML
 file with a name ending in .avi.  The XML files created by Cinelerra are
 not videos; they are edit lists, that is, sets of instructions
on
 how to
 create the video.

 What you probably want to do instead is render the edit list into a video
 file with the render command.
  That will also give you a choice of what
 name to call it; I strongly suggest that you choose a filename extension
 matching the format you choose, so choose a name ending in .avi if
you're
 creating an AVI file, and so on.

 Rendering is a much different operation from saving; it involves actually
 pulling chunks out of the source files and re-encoding them to create the
 finished video stream, whereas saving the edit list just saves the list of
 instructions on how to eventually do the render.  Normally you only rarely
 want to render, because it's time-consuming and may involve a quality
 loss; while working on your project you just load and save the XML edit
 lists and then when you're finally finished you render the result.
 When you watch your project during editing the editor renders parts of it
 on demand.

 it the way I want? Is it a bug or a problem because I'm a Kubuntu
 7.10 user?

 Not to be
  rude, but it sounds to me like a bug or problem because you're a
 Windows user.  The whole thing of file names being inextricably linked to
 the type of their contents is a Windows aberration; under Linux and most
 other operating systems, you can give any file any name and if you give it
 a misleading name (like naming an XML file movie.mov)
that's
 your
 problem.

 Save as .avi all you want; it will still *be* an XML file
because
 that
 is what Cinelerra produces.
 --
 Matthew Skala
 msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.caEmbrace and defend.
 http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/

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[CinCV] xml into .avi or .mov

2009-03-02 Thread Thiago Guagliardo Klohn










I'd like to know if it's possible to take a '.xml' video
that I have edited and save it in '.avi' or '.mov' simply by using
the key save as. I have Cinelerra manual and there it
says that before saving a video if I don't choose an extension, it'll
automatically save as '.xml', but as matter of fact, it doesn't
really matter if I choose an extension on my own, it still saving
everything as '.xml'. For example:



I have a video, let
supose, called birds1.mov. Then I edit it and after I go
to the save as key and type on the top window bird1.mov
- because I want to save it as '.mov'. But then, after clicking ok,
it shows up as saved as bird1.mov.xml. Why? How can have
it the way I want? Is it a bug or a problem because I'm a Kubuntu
7.10 user?






  

Re: [CinCV] xml into .avi or .mov

2009-03-02 Thread Daniel Jircik
The .xml file is your edit decision list used internally by cinelerra to
remember your edit. It's not the final output. You need to render the file
to your desired output format.
ciao
Daniel

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Thiago Guagliardo Klohn 
thiago_kl...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I'd like to know if it's possible to take a '.xml' video that I have edited
 and save it in '.avi' or '.mov' simply by using the key save as. I have
 Cinelerra manual and there it says that before saving a video if I don't
 choose an extension, it'll automatically save as '.xml', but as matter of
 fact, it doesn't really matter if I choose an extension on my own, it still
 saving everything as '.xml'. For example:


  I have a video, let supose, called birds1.mov. Then I edit it and after
 I go to the save as key and type on the top window bird1.mov - because I
 want to save it as '.mov'. But then, after clicking ok, it shows up as saved
 as bird1.mov.xml. Why? How can have it the way I want? Is it a bug or a
 problem because I'm a Kubuntu 7.10 user?


 **




Re: [CinCV] xml into .avi or .mov

2009-03-02 Thread mskala
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Thiago Guagliardo Klohn wrote:
 I'd like to know if it's possible to take a '.xml' video
 that I have edited and save it in '.avi' or '.mov' simply by using
 the key save as. I have Cinelerra manual and there it

Save as allows you to choose the *name* of the file and only the name.
It will always be an XML file.  If you save it as .avi, it'll be an XML
file with a name ending in .avi.  The XML files created by Cinelerra are
not videos; they are edit lists, that is, sets of instructions on how to
create the video.

What you probably want to do instead is render the edit list into a video
file with the render command.  That will also give you a choice of what
name to call it; I strongly suggest that you choose a filename extension
matching the format you choose, so choose a name ending in .avi if you're
creating an AVI file, and so on.

Rendering is a much different operation from saving; it involves actually
pulling chunks out of the source files and re-encoding them to create the
finished video stream, whereas saving the edit list just saves the list of
instructions on how to eventually do the render.  Normally you only rarely
want to render, because it's time-consuming and may involve a quality
loss; while working on your project you just load and save the XML edit
lists and then when you're finally finished you render the result.
When you watch your project during editing the editor renders parts of it
on demand.

 it the way I want? Is it a bug or a problem because I'm a Kubuntu
 7.10 user?

Not to be rude, but it sounds to me like a bug or problem because you're a
Windows user.  The whole thing of file names being inextricably linked to
the type of their contents is a Windows aberration; under Linux and most
other operating systems, you can give any file any name and if you give it
a misleading name (like naming an XML file movie.mov) that's your
problem.

Save as .avi all you want; it will still *be* an XML file because that
is what Cinelerra produces.
-- 
Matthew Skala
msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.caEmbrace and defend.
http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/

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Re: [CinCV] xml into .avi or .mov

2009-03-02 Thread Thiago Guagliardo Klohn
Hey, Matthew -

It worked as you instructed me, but the out come was a video with images in 
pink, green and blue colors mainly. How can it be fixed? Is there a name for 
that kind of erro so that I may research it?  I couldn't find an option to 
render my '.xml' as '.mov' either - there must be a way to do it, but I just 
couldn't find it. As a matter of fact, I've been a Linux user for the last 6 
years and I prefer it to Micro$oft, specially because it forces you to learn a 
lot of new things, but it doesn't seem obvious if you don't know much about 
computers. Anyway, thanks a lot for your hand!

Thiago

--- On Mon, 2/3/09, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
From: msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca
Subject: Re: [CinCV] xml into .avi or .mov
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Monday, 2 March, 2009, 3:56 PM

On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Thiago Guagliardo Klohn wrote:
 I'd like to know if it's possible to take a '.xml' video
 that I have edited and save it in '.avi' or '.mov' simply
by using
 the key save as. I have Cinelerra manual and there it

Save as allows you to choose the *name* of the file and only the
name.
It will always be an XML file.  If you save it as .avi, it'll be an XML
file with a name ending in .avi.  The XML files created by Cinelerra are
not videos; they are edit lists, that is, sets of instructions on
how to
create the video.

What you probably want to do instead is render the edit list into a video
file with the render command.  That will also give you a choice of what
name to call it; I strongly suggest that you choose a filename extension
matching the format you choose, so choose a name ending in .avi if you're
creating an AVI file, and so on.

Rendering is a much different operation from saving; it involves actually
pulling chunks out of the source files and re-encoding them to create the
finished video stream, whereas saving the edit list just saves the list of
instructions on how to eventually do the render.  Normally you only rarely
want to render, because it's time-consuming and may involve a quality
loss; while working on your project you just load and save the XML edit
lists and then when you're finally finished you render the result.
When you watch your project during editing the editor renders parts of it
on demand.

 it the way I want? Is it a bug or a problem because I'm a Kubuntu
 7.10 user?

Not to be rude, but it sounds to me like a bug or problem because you're a
Windows user.  The whole thing of file names being inextricably linked to
the type of their contents is a Windows aberration; under Linux and most
other operating systems, you can give any file any name and if you give it
a misleading name (like naming an XML file movie.mov) that's
your
problem.

Save as .avi all you want; it will still *be* an XML file because
that
is what Cinelerra produces.
-- 
Matthew Skala
msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.caEmbrace and defend.
http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/

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Re: [CinCV] xml into .avi or .mov

2009-03-02 Thread Jose Legido
Hello!

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Thiago Guagliardo Klohn
thiago_kl...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hey, Matthew -

 It worked as you instructed me, but the out come was a video with images in
 pink, green and blue colors mainly. How can it be fixed? Is there a name for
 that kind of erro so that I may research it?  I couldn't find an option to
 render my '.xml' as '.mov' either - there must be a way to do it, but I just
 couldn't find it.

How do you render your video?
Try first to render to dv.
File,render (shift +r)
Choose File Format Raw DV and rebder video tracks.



 As a matter of fact, I've been a Linux user for the last 6
 years and I prefer it to Micro$oft, specially because it forces you to learn
 a lot of new things, but it doesn't seem obvious if you don't know much
 about computers. Anyway, thanks a lot for your hand!

 Thiago

 --- On Mon, 2/3/09, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca
 wrote:

 From: msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] xml into .avi or .mov
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Monday, 2 March, 2009, 3:56 PM

 On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Thiago Guagliardo Klohn wrote:
 I'd like to know if it's possible to take a '.xml' video
 that I have edited and save it in '.avi' or '.mov' simply
 by using
 the key save as. I have Cinelerra manual and there it

 Save as allows you to choose the *name* of the file and only the
 name.
 It will always be an XML file.  If you save it as .avi, it'll be an XML
 file with a name ending in .avi.  The XML files created by Cinelerra are
 not videos; they are edit lists, that is, sets of instructions on
 how to
 create the video.

 What you probably want to do instead is render the edit list into a video
 file with the render command.
  That will also give you a choice of what
 name to call it; I strongly suggest that you choose a filename extension
 matching the format you choose, so choose a name ending in .avi if you're
 creating an AVI file, and so on.

 Rendering is a much different operation from saving; it involves actually
 pulling chunks out of the source files and re-encoding them to create the
 finished video stream, whereas saving the edit list just saves the list of
 instructions on how to eventually do the render.  Normally you only rarely
 want to render, because it's time-consuming and may involve a quality
 loss; while working on your project you just load and save the XML edit
 lists and then when you're finally finished you render the result.
 When you watch your project during editing the editor renders parts of it
 on demand.

 it the way I want? Is it a bug or a problem because I'm a Kubuntu
 7.10 user?

 Not to be
  rude, but it sounds to me like a bug or problem because you're a
 Windows user.  The whole thing of file names being inextricably linked to
 the type of their contents is a Windows aberration; under Linux and most
 other operating systems, you can give any file any name and if you give it
 a misleading name (like naming an XML file movie.mov) that's
 your
 problem.

 Save as .avi all you want; it will still *be* an XML file because
 that
 is what Cinelerra produces.
 --
 Matthew Skala
 msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.caEmbrace and defend.
 http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/

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