Re: [CinCVS] video playback stops working

2006-08-17 Thread Herman Robak
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:25:12 +0200, Pierre Dumuid  
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Not sure how xvideo works, but it would be cool to have a program
similar to how lsof lists open devices, that lists what programs are
using xvideo (however it works)

Along that note, another rant: A lot of the new GUI's when you try to
eject a device that is being used by a program just say cannot eject, a
program is using it  I would have thought a grep through lsof could
actually advise the user what programs where using the device...  Though
I know here's not the place to raise that issue.


 Not _that_ particular issue, but it is a good example of what we would
like Cinelerra to do, if it was possible.  For example, tell the user:
I can not use Xv to display video
 The program (name, pid) is using it.
 Stop that program, or change the display mode in Preferences|Playback

Or if we really want to serve the alternatives on a silver platter,
provide two buttons:

 [kill (program)]  [switch to X11]

While we're at it, we could use a kill artsd button, too... ;-)

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Re: [CinCVS] video playback stops working

2006-08-17 Thread Andraž Tori
do a survey of graphics cards and X11 and drivers version that make this
happen...

this cannot be (only) cinelerra's bug. 

bye
andraz

On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 09:21 +0200, Marcin Kostur wrote:
 ffplay unlocks xv too - is faster than kino  ;-)
 
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Re: [CinCVS] video playback stops working

2006-08-17 Thread Marcin Kostur

ATI - onboard i think X200 with propertiary drivers
the same was on ATI -Radeon (cant remember which one)

Nvidia with nv driver (and c1.22) - no problem

the best

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Re: [CinCVS] video playback stops working

2006-08-17 Thread mack

For further information, I'm using a pair of nvidia cards with the nv
driver, in xcinerama.  Switching the video ouput driver to x11 from
x11/xv has made the problem go away for the time being without issue.
I'll try the ffmpeg-to-unstick xv trick at some point, but right now the
x11 driver is *working for me*

Mack


On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 10:21 +0200, Marcin Kostur wrote:
 ATI - onboard i think X200 with propertiary drivers
 the same was on ATI -Radeon (cant remember which one)
 
 Nvidia with nv driver (and c1.22) - no problem
 
 the best  
 
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[CinCVS] video playback stops working

2006-08-16 Thread mack
I have repeated occasions of the video playback in both Viewer and
Compositor stopping entirely.  When this happens, Everything appears to
behave normally, audio plays fine and the timeline window and other
indicators of playback are updated normally.  No unusual console
messages are displayed (just some usual things about alsa . . .)

Restarting cinelerra repeatedly could not provoke playback.  Rebooting
the computer made behavior normal again.  I suspect a simple X restart
would have sufficed, and I'll check the next time i see this behavior.

Any related experiences/ideas?

thx,
Mack


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Re: [CinCVS] video playback stops working

2006-08-16 Thread mack
More info on that: my problem is seems to be triggered by running
another video application while cinelerra is running, such as mplayer or
vlc.  I thought it was caused by rendering initially, but it was when I
watched the rendered output in a player.

It's avoided by closing cinalerra before opening mplayer/vlc/other video
playback applications.

Restarting X11 unjams the bug.

Mack

On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 16:39 -0700, James Colannino wrote:
 mack wrote:
  I have repeated occasions of the video playback in both Viewer and
  Compositor stopping entirely.  When this happens, Everything appears to
  behave normally, audio plays fine and the timeline window and other
  indicators of playback are updated normally.  No unusual console
  messages are displayed (just some usual things about alsa . . .)
  
  Restarting cinelerra repeatedly could not provoke playback.  Rebooting
  the computer made behavior normal again.  I suspect a simple X restart
  would have sufficed, and I'll check the next time i see this behavior.
  
  Any related experiences/ideas?
 
 I had exactly the same issue yesterday.  A reboot also solved my
 problem.  I wrote about this in the Build Error thread about revision 839.
 
 James


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Re: [CinCVS] video playback stops working

2006-08-16 Thread Leonardo


--- mack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 More info on that: my problem is seems to be triggered by
 running
 another video application while cinelerra is running, such as
 mplayer or
 vlc.  I thought it was caused by rendering initially, but it
 was when I
 watched the rendered output in a player.
 
 It's avoided by closing cinalerra before opening
 mplayer/vlc/other video
 playback applications.
 
 Restarting X11 unjams the bug.
 
 Mack

There was something similar some times ago, I think I remember
it had to do with xvideo and mplayer.
The solution was closing mplayer and cinelerra, play a video in
kino (with xvideo enabled in the preferences) and then you can
reopen Cinelerra, without the need to reboot.
If I still remember correctly kino exits cleanly from using
xvideo and then it's again usable by Cinelerra.

Leo

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Re: [CinCVS] video playback stops working

2006-08-16 Thread Pierre Dumuid
Not sure how xvideo works, but it would be cool to have a program 
similar to how lsof lists open devices, that lists what programs are 
using xvideo (however it works)


Along that note, another rant: A lot of the new GUI's when you try to 
eject a device that is being used by a program just say cannot eject, a 
program is using it  I would have thought a grep through lsof could 
actually advise the user what programs where using the device...  Though 
I know here's not the place to raise that issue.




Leonardo wrote:

--- mack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

More info on that: my problem is seems to be triggered by
running
another video application while cinelerra is running, such as
mplayer or
vlc.  I thought it was caused by rendering initially, but it
was when I
watched the rendered output in a player.

It's avoided by closing cinalerra before opening
mplayer/vlc/other video
playback applications.

Restarting X11 unjams the bug.

Mack



There was something similar some times ago, I think I remember
it had to do with xvideo and mplayer.
The solution was closing mplayer and cinelerra, play a video in
kino (with xvideo enabled in the preferences) and then you can
reopen Cinelerra, without the need to reboot.
If I still remember correctly kino exits cleanly from using
xvideo and then it's again usable by Cinelerra.

Leo

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