Re: [CinCV] 10 bit uncompressed to Cinelerra

2013-02-27 Thread Terje J. Hanssen
Hm, I hope that almost absent feedback on this topic is not to be 
interpreted such as Cinelerra and ffmpeg on Linux maybe are not the 
right tools to go with?


Therefore I follow up a little more myselfe:


Den 22. feb. 2013 23:48, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:


HyperDeck Shuttle is said to support Uncompressed QuickTime, Apple 
ProRes 422 (HQ) QuickTime, Avid DNxHD QuickTime, Avid DNxHD MXF.




The storage rates for PAL video on HyperDeck Shuttle 2

625 PAL 10 bit @ 720 x 576 @ 25fps
ProRes HQ vs uncompressed = 28 GB/hr vs 93 GB/hr

1080i and 1080p HDTV 1920 x 1080 @ 25fps
ProRes HQ vs uncompressed = 83 GB/hr vs 463 GB/hr

Thus 512 GB SSD (476 GB formatted capacity) will provide
for SD PAL ProRes HQ vs uncompressed 17 hr vs 5.1 hr recording time
for 1080i ProRes HQ vs uncompressed 5.7 hr vs1.0 hr recording time

As ProRes HQ does support both 10 bit 422 SD and HD video, it seems to 
qualify as a universial visually lossless, VBR intra-frame HQ video 
format for both editing and archival purposes, as an alternative to 
uncompessed 422 video.



ffmpeg seems to support Apple ProRes, but what about Cinelerra?
http://transcoding.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/prores-ffmpeg/
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/291/575#744


Is 10 bit 422 uncompressed HD and SD video formats something Cinelerra 
can import directly, or will any of the compressed codecs fit better?




What made me unsure was a previous post that said:

Since Cinelerra's preferred uncompressed format is yuv2 video (8bit
packed YUV 4:2:2) and pcm audio in a QuickTime? container, the following
command line should render practically any video file into something
that can be opened and edited in Cinelerra:
transcode -y mov -F yuv2 -N 0x1 -i input file -o output.mov
http://code.goto10.org/projects/puredyne-old/wiki/DocVideo-cinelerra-codecs



At least for archival purpose I wonder if encoding uncompressed to 
DVCPRO50 using ffmpeg is possible as described in the following howto. 
Possibly, is this also a useful editing format that can be edited in 
Cinelerra too?




If ProRes 422 HQ for both SD and HD is supported, there will be less 
need for DVCPRO50.

By the way, there is already created paches DV50 in HV Cinelerra 4.4
http://www.renomath.org/video/linux/cinelerra/



ffmpeg -i input_file -pix_fmt yuv422p output_DVCPRO50.dv
http://www.itbroadcastanddigitalcinema.com/ffmpeg_howto.html#Encoding_DVCAM_DVCPRO25_DVCPRO50 





If I interprete the following output correctly, it seems like ffmpeg 
does support dv50


ffmpeg -h | grep target
ffmpeg version 1.0.4 Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the FFmpeg developers
  built on Feb 10 2013 19:01:53 with gcc 4.7 (SUSE Linux)

-target typespecify target file type (vcd, svcd, dvd, 
dv, dv50, pal-vcd, ntsc-svcd, ...)



Terje J. Hanssen

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Re: [CinCV] 10 bit uncompressed to Cinelerra

2013-02-24 Thread E Chalaron
Hello
From experience, I can mostly talk about exporting the 10 bits. No major
software seems to be able to import the result.
I had a little experience with only importing 10 bits Tiff files. Not
working. 16 bits work though.

I would stick to an uncompressed quicktime or DNX if you are not short
of storage.

Forget the DVcpro50 with cinelerra; does not work.
Best
E


On 23/02/13 11:48, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:

 Is 10 bit 422 uncompressed HD and SD video formats something Cinelerra
 can import directly, or will any of the compressed codecs fit better? 

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