Re: [CinCVS] SIGSEGV on render.
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 05:27:44 +0200, Graham Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My troubles with rendering have definitely caused me to learn about the various revisions. I know wonder if I would have been fine with the kiberpipa packages for x86_32 ubuntu, since I went 64-bit and started compiling my own because of the same render problem, and readings that 64-bit was recommended for 'stability.' 64 bit Cinelerra is accepted as less crash-prone and is recommended by HV and others. I would guess you will find most Cinelerra users on this list running in 64 bit. I sincerely doubt that. But I don't have any data to support it. So it sounds like worthwhile work... And now you can keep up to date and keep compiling with the latest svn- once it gets stable again. I have found that to be invaluable... I don't believe you get any more working render codecs or other advantages running Cinelerra 32 bit. Not if your OS already runs well in 64-bit mode, and all the applications you want to run work, too. But that's still a quite big if... -- Herman Robak ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] SIGSEGV on render.
64 bit Cinelerra is accepted as less crash-prone and is recommended by HV and others. I would guess you will find most Cinelerra users on this list running in 64 bit. I sincerely doubt that. But I don't have any data to support it. Hi Herman Just an impression. I accept your counter impression. I don't believe you get any more working render codecs or other advantages running Cinelerra 32 bit. Not if your OS already runs well in 64-bit mode, and all the applications you want to run work, too. But that's still a quite big if... I wasn't making an argument for 64-bit distros as a whole although FC4 is working reasonably well for me. Just that cin-64 is not missing codecs. I miss many 32bit aps and am considering whether I need to set up another box for them. I actually made the 64-bit decision based on a desire to use cinelerra intensively so I can relate to the path Mack has taken. However I am finding 64 bit excludes me from the multimedia support provided by ccrma which has meant a lot of work to get things like jack and ardour working. And I have had zero luck with rezound. all the best Graham E. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] SIGSEGV on render.
Graham Evans wrote: I miss many 32bit aps and am considering whether I need to set up another box for them. You know that you can have both 32-bit and 64-bit applications installed on the same machine with Linux, right? :) 32-bit to 64-bit mapping must be enabled in the kernel, and you must have the 32-bit versions of libraries like glibc (I've seen systems that had /lib and /lib64), but as long as this is the case you can do it. At least, I know for a fact it's been done with Gentoo. I'm sure with a bit of custom compiling you can do it on FC4 too. No need for an extra box, and if you're using AMD64 (which I'm guessing is the case) you get an increase in performance for 32-bit applications vs. being on a 32-bit CPU :) James -- My blog: http://www.crazydrclaw.com/ My homepage: http://james.colannino.org/ Black holes are where God divided by zero. --Steven Wright ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] SIGSEGV on render.
I never really spent any time with the 32 bit cinelerra before building for 64 so I can't really say. 64 bit hasn't been terribly crash prone, it just tends to be silent about why things aren't working right. That it loads in 30 seconds makes closing and reopening not frustrating, and there's the backup log. So far the timeline interface is confounding and making me question my sanity. I'll get through it. I don't know how much of that at this point is my inexperience with cinelerra or with professional NLE in general. Thanks to all, Mack On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 18:16 +0800, Graham Evans wrote: 64 bit Cinelerra is accepted as less crash-prone and is recommended by HV and others. I would guess you will find most Cinelerra users on this list running in 64 bit. I sincerely doubt that. But I don't have any data to support it. Hi Herman Just an impression. I accept your counter impression. I don't believe you get any more working render codecs or other advantages running Cinelerra 32 bit. Not if your OS already runs well in 64-bit mode, and all the applications you want to run work, too. But that's still a quite big if... I wasn't making an argument for 64-bit distros as a whole although FC4 is working reasonably well for me. Just that cin-64 is not missing codecs. I miss many 32bit aps and am considering whether I need to set up another box for them. I actually made the 64-bit decision based on a desire to use cinelerra intensively so I can relate to the path Mack has taken. However I am finding 64 bit excludes me from the multimedia support provided by ccrma which has meant a lot of work to get things like jack and ardour working. And I have had zero luck with rezound. all the best Graham E. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] SIGSEGV on render.
running it through gdb and posting full backtraces (apply thread all bt) would help... also compile and link with -g if you can... bye andraz On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 16:38 -0500, mack wrote: After working my way through building cinelerra, I finally got it running happily, i thought, on my Ubuntu amd64 machine, using the information at the Ubuntu forums and the newsgroup, ending up with a running copy of r836. Now, I can successfully load media (imported as quicktime in kino) and make splices/transitions, but whenever I tell it to render (following the directions in the Rob Fisher tutorial) it SIGSEGV's with this output: http://www.mackallison.net/index.php?title=Error_message_whenever_I_tell_it_to_render ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] SIGSEGV on render.
I think I compiled it with the -g flags as requested now, by doing: ./configure CFLAGS=-g LDFLAGS=-g --enable-pic and of course make clean, make, and make install I'm not sure how you want me to run this through gdb to get the right info. Thx, Mack On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 23:47 +0200, Andraž Tori wrote: running it through gdb and posting full backtraces (apply thread all bt) would help... also compile and link with -g if you can... bye andraz On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 16:38 -0500, mack wrote: After working my way through building cinelerra, I finally got it running happily, i thought, on my Ubuntu amd64 machine, using the information at the Ubuntu forums and the newsgroup, ending up with a running copy of r836. Now, I can successfully load media (imported as quicktime in kino) and make splices/transitions, but whenever I tell it to render (following the directions in the Rob Fisher tutorial) it SIGSEGV's with this output: http://www.mackallison.net/index.php?title=Error_message_whenever_I_tell_it_to_render ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] SIGSEGV on render.
an update: I can render to raw DV that plays back in mplayer, but not quicktime or avi. I'm I just missing something or doing something retarded? On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 23:47 +0200, Andraž Tori wrote: running it through gdb and posting full backtraces (apply thread all bt) would help... also compile and link with -g if you can... bye andraz On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 16:38 -0500, mack wrote: After working my way through building cinelerra, I finally got it running happily, i thought, on my Ubuntu amd64 machine, using the information at the Ubuntu forums and the newsgroup, ending up with a running copy of r836. Now, I can successfully load media (imported as quicktime in kino) and make splices/transitions, but whenever I tell it to render (following the directions in the Rob Fisher tutorial) it SIGSEGV's with this output: http://www.mackallison.net/index.php?title=Error_message_whenever_I_tell_it_to_render ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
