Re: RE: My interview story [7:40553]
Guys; This scenario sounds like something straight from the book of my Project Management Course. Spelunking and Forest fire are the two other scenarios our groups of us were testing and developing our IT Project Management egos, we also get to play with logo blocks. It does work. I was as surprised with this approach as you seems to be, but it got me on a right track. It allows to qualify the project management skills. Kind Regards, Anna --- John Neiberger wrote: That may be true, but it just sounds like something straight off the pages of Dilbert. :-) I know personally I wouldn't respond to such an interview well. If someone wants to test my creativity and troubleshooting, then they should mock up a lab and throw it at me. Perhaps that's because I'm not used to the idea of being psychologically tested during an interview. What's next, ink blot tests? Values clarification drills? Written personality tests? I can see it now: We're sorry, you're an INTJ but we really want an ESTJ for this position. Okay, I've got to stop answering email this early. :-) John On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Jay Dunn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This test may sound stupid, but based on Mark's description I'd say they were attempting to assess creativity and troubleshooting skills. Sometimes pure technical skills aren't enough. Thinking outside the box is a big part of what an employer is looking for. I'd say a company as big as SNS has plenty of experience in hiring and knows what they're doing in making this part of the interview. Jay Dunn IPI*GrammTech, Ltd. www.ipi-gt.com Nunquam Facilis Est -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 8:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My interview story [7:40553] Why would you want to work for a place with such stupid interviews in the first place? If they select their employees based on how they play Stranded in the Desert or whatever the heck that was, then it's probably best you don't work there. I'm sure the management there is awful. Stuff like that is a sure sign their managers have too much time on their hands, and there's almost nothing worse than a clueless manager with too much time. Someone needs to send those managers a Dilbert calendar! I'm sorry to hear it didn't go well, but you should forget about them and move on to a better company. John On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Mark Zhang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: hi,everybody,I have a interview appointment at 9:00 AM. The position is Network Engineer in SNS(schlumberger network solutions sector).But I falled,at least i think so. At first,every candidater have a chance to intraduce oneself for 1 minute in English.Then every 5 person get a group to play a game named Desert Survive.Game as this:Just image you and some people lose in a deep desert by an airplane problem,so plz list the most important thing to the lest from 15 tools you could use,first time by your own choose,the second by your group. Maybe I do not show good in the self-introduce,then I paly the game,I choose more close to the expert answer the my group,but the schlumberger do not think I as the right person they are looking for. what a pity!I experienced in Motorola and a network company,have design a large scare voip network include about 40 nods,familiar with Cisco,But why?Just because a lose in the game? B.RMark Zhang - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Music, Movies, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40628t=40553 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Candidate versus CCIE [7:426]
Hello Everyone Just wondering how many people are passing the lab test recently. This is current head count of CCIE's according to cisco 5595*. Does anyone in a group remembers how many were there last year. The wait for the lab extends is almost double of what it was last year which is clear indicator more people are trying. I am just curious if there is also clear indicator of candidates increase in number of CCIE's. Regards to all, Anna ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=426t=426 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RS Lab Swap
Hello List I am scheduled for March 22/23 in SJ, if anyone from the list would like to swap with me for a May or June that be great, I don't care what location. Regards, Anna ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ECP1 enyone taken ?
Hi list I am putting together the plan of attack on passing the R/S lab, I have quite a lab at work and can work most of the labs on my own, however, I would like to take a training when I am about ready to reinforce and hard code the approaches to the labs. Basically I wish to have some training similar to a real thing, and know it all mentor that will ensure I know all I need to know and will asses my readiness. If there is a gentelman or a lady who took Carslow's ECP1 or has better suggestins can you, please, voice you opinion. Some people at work took the ANEW I and II with Global Knowledge, but I think I can do these on my own. Appreciate any help, Anna ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you list
Hello As many others I would like to forward special thanks to groupstudy mentors.I just passed the CCIE written and I owe it to many good souls on this list, who put their suggested reading list and life examples on this list. I will not mention any names, but we all know who deserves most credit for helping dudes like me. Many, great and trilling successes in Internetworking to you all. Best regards, Anna Janowska ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thank you list
Thanks Chuck I will research your suggestions in the next little while, I will take CCND exams in August and then lab and lab only. I am so lucky to have the gear and such a strong support from my company. I think there is always a little bit of trade off with everything, my pay can use an improvement, but I am not complaining,I consider myself very fortunate. The books I have use to prepare for this exam were: All in one CCIE Study Guide by Roosevelt Gilles - first three chapters, pices from the rest of it, you can't say it is not in detail. Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIE by A. B. Carslow not in depth but read needed pices, will read for the lab over and over untill I got the carma. Routing TCP/IP volume I by Jeff Doyle Cover to cover reads like a novell, although, I can't say I still remember how novell reads or is it novel. The most help was from good soul and friend Jean van Eeden who lend me CCIE Prep kit - you can get one on the Amazon.com, it is 400 pages summary, it does not go too deep into subjects and it is not enough to read just that but it is great to read it just a week before a big day, it has all that is required on the test ( but as I mentioned not enough detail to pass). Jean also offered a great support as a friend and that is priceless. You will also need to know RIF in and out I mean you will need to translate the RIF and know cannonical to non-cannonical translation of MAC ( ether to token). There is also a big brother cisco with all you need to know and it was big help to me. A groupstudy list is just priceless in tips on books and where to find stuff, it takes so much time to search for stuff I know because I started CCNP track without being hooked up to this list and I can say it made a huge difference in how fast I am progressing in my cert. and how much it cost me. I hope it helps, I did not post the details of my prep before because it seems as it was already done, frankly I followed the mailings from others who pass CCIE written. Good luck with your study, Anna --- Chuck Larrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ECP1 is a CCIE lab prep class taught by Chesapeake. www.mentortech.com This is the famous Caslow class. Caslow himself teaches it much of the time. About a six month waiting list, and recommended that you take the class about 30 days before the lab ( gives the brain a chance to absorb ) I recall Joe Martin saying that Cisco actually offers some kind of pre-lab class, given in San Jose. Have to check with your Cisco rep about it. I can't find the reference. Brad Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] is associated with one of the bot camps. He might be able to fill you in on specifics. I am hoping to pass the written in October. Best wishes Chuck -Original Message- From: Anna Janowska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 11:48 AM To: Chuck Larrieu Subject: RE: Thank you list Thanks What is happening in October, is it your lab? Regardless I am going to be here. BTW Any recommended Boot Camp, my company is footing the bill I just need to pick a good one. Regards, Anna --- Chuck Larrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right on "dude"!! Congratulations!!! Hope to see you on that side in October. Best of luck on that lab Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Anna Janowska Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Thank you list Hello As many others I would like to forward special thanks to groupstudy mentors.I just passed the CCIE written and I owe it to many good souls on this list, who put their suggested reading list and life examples on this list. I will not mention any names, but we all know who deserves most credit for helping dudes like me. Many, great and trilling successes in Internetworking to you all. Best regards, Anna Janowska ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
