Re: Amazing Spanning Tree [7:74594]

2003-09-01 Thread Fred Richards
I always like to think of Spanning Tree in respect to the numbers on a
clock.  If the information goes around in a circle, you only need 1
blocking port to disrupt the circle.  You don't need to block in two
parts of the circle.  The Sybex CCNA book had an excellent example of
this (I got my CCNA June 30th, 911/1000)... they had the explaination on
one page, then you turn the page and they had 5 switches.  The diagram
made all the sense in the world.  Which is kind of where I got my clock
analogy.  If you're disrupting the loop at the 12 spot on the clock,
you don't need to disrupt it anywhere else.


   -- Fred
Curious wrote:

Hello friends, I have an spanning tree question for you!

I have a lot of switches connected between them, but I have seen 
something that I can not explain very well. Two of these switches are
connected using two cables:

   Switch1 Switch2
   Port 29  -  Port 29
   Port 30  -  Port 30

I expected to see one port in blocking state (spanning-tree) and the other 
in forwarding state, but suprisingly I have seen that port 30 is in blocking
state
in Switch1 but it is in forwarding state in Switch 2. Let's see these
outputs:
   


Switch1#sh spanning-tree interface FastEthernet 0/29
Interface Fa0/29 (port 35) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING
   Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0002.fd3c.18b5
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0005.5e0c.57b6
   Designated port is 35, path cost 23
   Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
Switch1#sh spanning-tree interface FastEthernet 0/30
Interface Fa0/30 (port 36) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING
   Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0002.fd3c.18b5
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0005.5e0c.57b6
   Designated port is 36, path cost 23
   Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
   BPDU: sent 264503, received 2



Switch2#sh spanning-tree interface FAstEthernet 0/29
Interface Fa0/29 (port 35) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING
   Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0002.fd3c.18b5
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0005.5e0c.57b6
   Designated port is 35, path cost 23
   Timers: message age 4, forward delay 0, hold 0
   BPDU: sent 2, received 264561
Switch2#sh spanning-tree interface FAstEthernet 0/30
Interface Fa0/30 (port 36) in Spanning tree 1 is BLOCKING
   Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0002.fd3c.18b5
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0005.5e0c.57b6
   Designated port is 36, path cost 23
   Timers: message age 3, forward delay 0, hold 0
   BPDU: sent 2, received 264573

 
 Why a port is in blocking state and the other is in forwarding??? I
expected to
see both ports in blocking, but one forwarding and the other blocking
doesn't make
sense!!!

  Thanks a lot!
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Re: Amazing Spanning Tree [7:74594]

2003-09-01 Thread Fred Richards
I always like to think of Spanning Tree in respect to the numbers on a 
clock.  If the information goes around in a circle, you only need 1 
blocking port to disrupt the circle.  You don't need to block in two 
parts of the circle.  The Sybex CCNA book had an excellent example of 
this (I got my CCNA June 30th, 911/1000)... they had the explaination on 
one page, then you turn the page and they had 5 switches.  The diagram 
made all the sense in the world.  Which is kind of where I got my clock 
analogy.  If you're disrupting the loop at the 12 spot on the clock, 
you don't need to disrupt it anywhere else.

 
   -- Fred
Curious wrote:

Hello friends, I have an spanning tree question for you!

I have a lot of switches connected between them, but I have seen 
something that I can not explain very well. Two of these switches are
connected using two cables:

   Switch1 Switch2
   Port 29  -  Port 29
   Port 30  -  Port 30

I expected to see one port in blocking state (spanning-tree) and the other 
in forwarding state, but suprisingly I have seen that port 30 is in blocking
state
in Switch1 but it is in forwarding state in Switch 2. Let's see these
outputs:
   


Switch1#sh spanning-tree interface FastEthernet 0/29
Interface Fa0/29 (port 35) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING
   Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0002.fd3c.18b5
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0005.5e0c.57b6
   Designated port is 35, path cost 23
   Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
Switch1#sh spanning-tree interface FastEthernet 0/30
Interface Fa0/30 (port 36) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING
   Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0002.fd3c.18b5
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0005.5e0c.57b6
   Designated port is 36, path cost 23
   Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
   BPDU: sent 264503, received 2



Switch2#sh spanning-tree interface FAstEthernet 0/29
Interface Fa0/29 (port 35) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING
   Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0002.fd3c.18b5
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0005.5e0c.57b6
   Designated port is 35, path cost 23
   Timers: message age 4, forward delay 0, hold 0
   BPDU: sent 2, received 264561
Switch2#sh spanning-tree interface FAstEthernet 0/30
Interface Fa0/30 (port 36) in Spanning tree 1 is BLOCKING
   Port path cost 19, Port priority 128
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0002.fd3c.18b5
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0005.5e0c.57b6
   Designated port is 36, path cost 23
   Timers: message age 3, forward delay 0, hold 0
   BPDU: sent 2, received 264573

 
 Why a port is in blocking state and the other is in forwarding??? I
expected to
see both ports in blocking, but one forwarding and the other blocking
doesn't make
sense!!!

  Thanks a lot!
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